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(NW Florida Daily News)   Before you respond to that sex-for-hire telephone call, politely ask the caller if they're a sheriff's deputy   (nwfdailynews.com ) divider line
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2011-02-21 06:10:07 PM  
I always do! Some of the best head I ever got was from a sheriff's deputy.

Love a woman in uniform
 
2011-02-21 06:22:42 PM  
Can we streamline the whole process and just call the Sheriff's Department for sex?
 
2011-02-21 06:34:47 PM  
Sadly, you can't just ask an undercover officer if their cops...they are legally allowed to maintain their cover up till the time of arrest.
 
2011-02-21 07:20:36 PM  
 
2011-02-21 07:36:09 PM  
Good job, Okaloosa County, you saved one more woman from being exploited (at least for a little while) and are keeping her safely behind bars.
 
2011-02-21 08:55:26 PM  
Yay! Hooker thread!

Link
 
2011-02-21 08:57:15 PM  
FTA:

An undercover officer called an escort service that advertised in an online publication, according to an arrest report from the sheriff's office. The officer requested that a female come to a specific room at the Motel 6. The person on the phone said the fee would be $250.

The 26-year-old allegedly arrived at the room less than one hour later and agreed to perform sex in exchange for $250.


It is nice that I have come to expect fark headlines to be completely misleading.

//glad I use adblock on fark, no you won't get any money from me
 
2011-02-21 08:58:43 PM  
People are total idiots. Go and have sex with a prostitute where it is legal.
 
2011-02-21 08:59:12 PM  
Wow! First teachers, now cops?

We need to pay our public servants more.
 
2011-02-21 09:08:39 PM  
The whole crime-baiting phenomenon has gone too far. Why don't they try soliciting bribes to congressman for a change?
 
2011-02-21 09:09:54 PM  
Florida tag sleeping?
 
2011-02-21 09:12:29 PM  
Isn't that entrapment? I didn't think the police were allowed to specify a fee or ask for sex, I was pretty sure that you had to ask them and specify a fee or it is entrapment.
 
2011-02-21 09:18:45 PM  

InfamousBLT: Isn't that entrapment? I didn't think the police were allowed to specify a fee or ask for sex, I was pretty sure that you had to ask them and specify a fee or it is entrapment.


www.mandypatinkin.net
 
2011-02-21 09:20:57 PM  
"My name is Indingo Montoya. You Killed my father, prepare to die."
 
2011-02-21 09:21:07 PM  

Darth_Lukecash: Sadly, you can't just ask an undercover officer if their cops...they are legally allowed to maintain their cover up till the time of arrest.


Yah, I think Johnny Depp and 21 Jump Street covered that like 25 years ago, but thanks for playing.
 
2011-02-21 09:24:42 PM  
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2011-02-21 09:28:56 PM  

InfamousBLT: Isn't that entrapment? I didn't think the police were allowed to specify a fee or ask for sex, I was pretty sure that you had to ask them and specify a fee or it is entrapment.


It's only entrapment if they push you into something you wouldn't normally do. An undercover cop becoming your best friend, and then getting you to rob a bank with him to get the money for his mom's operation, that's entrapment. An undercover cop not telling you he's a cop when you ask him, as you're hiring a crew for your bank job, that's not entrapment. He can even commit crimes to "prove" he's not a cop, in most places.
 
2011-02-21 09:34:41 PM  
I hate to break it to subby, but the police do not have to say that they are cops.

4.bp.blogspot.com
 
2011-02-21 09:40:51 PM  
The woman is charged with offering to commit prostitution, a second-degree misdemeanor, according to the report.

And meanwhile, the actual perpetrators running the ring are (2) on the lamb, because (1) the sting tipped 'em off.

Way to go, local guys

:smirk:
 
2011-02-21 09:40:56 PM  

Darth_Lukecash: Sadly, you can't just ask an undercover officer if their cops...they are legally allowed to maintain their cover up till the time of arrest.


Can you have them sign a notary statement that they are not a cop?
 
2011-02-21 09:42:12 PM  
She should have suggested he get naked and not say a word about money. Cops will NOT undress because they're packing (gun, not the family jewels) If he refuses to get naked (and not a word has been said about money, no arrest can be made. Most experienced sex workers can smell a cop a mile away. Truth be told, cops love working girls, but that's a whole other story.

11 Myths about Prostitution in this country. (new window)
 
2011-02-21 09:52:42 PM  

Darth_Lukecash: Sadly, you can't just ask an undercover officer if their cops...they are legally allowed to maintain their cover up till the time of arrest.


You beat me to it; they absolutely do not have to tell you they're a cop if asked; if they were, there would be no point to "undercover."

In another vein, I think the idea of arresting people for paying for/selling sex is absurd and barbaric. Old men pay young hotties for sex all the time; it's called "marriage." If you've got the goods, and you're an adult, who the fark is the government to tell you, "No, you can't have that kind of sex." It's absolutely primitive.
 
2011-02-21 09:57:02 PM  

Darth_Lukecash: Sadly, you can't just ask an undercover officer if their cops...they are legally allowed to maintain their cover up till the time of arrest.



Except for over the phone or by mailed letter.
 
2011-02-21 10:08:02 PM  
Not to all the $250 ladies out there. If they can't afford a better hotel then Motel 6, then they can't afford the $250.

/just sayin...
//BBBJTCWS??
 
2011-02-21 10:09:53 PM  
Officers must be operating under a judge assigned warrant in order to lie, its a permission slip. Many jurisdictions are 100% on duty all the time legally.
 
2011-02-21 10:20:41 PM  

DominaNY: She should have suggested he get naked and not say a word about money. Cops will NOT undress because they're packing (gun, not the family jewels) If he refuses to get naked (and not a word has been said about money, no arrest can be made. Most experienced sex workers can smell a cop a mile away. Truth be told, cops love working girls, but that's a whole other story.

11 Myths about Prostitution in this country. (new window)


Wow, thank you.

Also, tip for guys looking to hire callgirls, ask if they'll do some (completely legal) paid nude modeling first. Next-to-no female cops would agree to that, especially if you make it clear first that those pictures may end up on the internet, while EVERY prostitute would be up for that, as it's free and doesn't involve sex with a stranger.
 
2011-02-21 10:39:29 PM  

InfamousBLT: Isn't that entrapment? I didn't think the police were allowed to specify a fee or ask for sex, I was pretty sure that you had to ask them and specify a fee or it is entrapment.


THIS. It may not TECHNICALLY be entrapment, but ffs, aren't there worse law-offenders a cop can be trying to stick in jail? Aren't there violent criminals that need to be incarcerated much more than online prosties?

They're probably trying this whole "come to X room at X hotel" bc escorts have found ways to figure out if a cop was a cop for in-call jobs(i.e. if escort asks cop to grab her boobs & he doesnt promptly do so, he's definitely a cop, as they are not allowed to 'sample the merchandise.')

/FSM forbid we legalize & regulate the sex trade
 
2011-02-21 10:51:14 PM  

username101: DominaNY: She should have suggested he get naked and not say a word about money. Cops will NOT undress because they're packing (gun, not the family jewels) If he refuses to get naked (and not a word has been said about money, no arrest can be made. Most experienced sex workers can smell a cop a mile away. Truth be told, cops love working girls, but that's a whole other story.

11 Myths about Prostitution in this country. (new window)

Wow, thank you.

Also, tip for guys looking to hire callgirls, ask if they'll do some (completely legal) paid nude modeling first. Next-to-no female cops would agree to that, especially if you make it clear first that those pictures may end up on the internet, while EVERY prostitute would be up for that, as it's free and doesn't involve sex with a stranger.


Best advice you'll get here all night.
 
2011-02-21 10:57:43 PM  

prjindigo: Officers must be operating under a judge assigned warrant in order to lie, its a permission slip. Many jurisdictions are 100% on duty all the time legally.


Nope.

Cops can lie to maintain their undercover status. If the hooker asks, "are you a cop?" the cop can say "Nope, I sell insurance" and there's no problem. The cop will likely have a wallet full of ID with his undercover name on it, and probably a few credit cards too. One things the girls will do is ask for the guy's work number and call it to see if they get the guy's voice mail. They usually will too, even though it's fake.

Cops can get naked too if necessary. The line is drawn at engaging in a sex act, although in many places even that's not illegal - it's just a violation of policy.

Depending on how the law in a particular jusrisdiction is worded, cops can initiate the "money for sex" offer too. If the law, like most prostitution laws, says it's illegal to "agree to particpate in a sex act in exchange for anything of value," then the cop can ask "will you have sex with me for $200?" when the hooker says "yes," that simp,e agreement constitutes a violation of the law.

One more thing: Most prostitutes don't have "pimps" per se, although a few work for escort services. Most are independants because they don't have to pay the service a percentage.

And one more thing: Many escort services are run by the same people. They advertise under many different names, but use the same girls. They do that so when the cops start calling different escort services to order girls, it's immediately apparent. If the same guy calls 6 different escort services and asks for a girl to come to the same room, it's probable that it's the same girl answering the phone each time and she'll know it's a setup.

I know too much about this stuff.
 
2011-02-21 10:58:15 PM  

username101: DominaNY: She should have suggested he get naked and not say a word about money. Cops will NOT undress because they're packing (gun, not the family jewels) If he refuses to get naked (and not a word has been said about money, no arrest can be made. Most experienced sex workers can smell a cop a mile away. Truth be told, cops love working girls, but that's a whole other story.

11 Myths about Prostitution in this country. (new window)

Wow, thank you.

Also, tip for guys looking to hire callgirls, ask if they'll do some (completely legal) paid nude modeling first. Next-to-no female cops would agree to that, especially if you make it clear first that those pictures may end up on the internet, while EVERY prostitute would be up for that, as it's free and doesn't involve sex with a stranger.


Now it makes sense.

A buddy of mine always asks that. He usually goes for porn girls; so I always thought he was somewhat serious. I never thought to ask him why he did it that way.
 
2011-02-21 11:03:01 PM  

McVodkaBreath: THIS. It may not TECHNICALLY be entrapment, but ffs, aren't there worse law-offenders a cop can be trying to stick in jail? Aren't there violent criminals that need to be incarcerated much more than online prosties?


Wait, wait... violent criminals are dangerous. You want us to to what now? No, no... no man. We've got families to get home to. We're going to just respond to Craigslist ads for women brazen enough to ask for cash in exchange for sex instead of the typical dinner and some jewelry. Priorities, man.
 
2011-02-21 11:04:08 PM  

McVodkaBreath: They're probably trying this whole "come to X room at X hotel" bc escorts have found ways to figure out if a cop was a cop for in-call jobs(i.e. if escort asks cop to grab her boobs & he doesnt promptly do so, he's definitely a cop, as they are not allowed to 'sample the merchandise.')


When they ask that, the best response for the undercover cop is to act terrified and say "shiat! You're a cop aren't you!" The girl will usually apologize and deny the hell out of being a cop and forget about the "cop test" thing.
 
2011-02-21 11:04:50 PM  

Nem Wan: Darth_Lukecash: Sadly, you can't just ask an undercover officer if their cops...they are legally allowed to maintain their cover up till the time of arrest.

Can you have them sign a notary statement that they are not a cop?


Hookers, like strippers, don't want you to know their name. So practically, no. You would also have evidence to blackmail them.

Anyways, if they have a judge's ok to lie (or whatever authorization they might need) I would think that they could. No difference lying in a notarized letter or verbally. Just verbally would be harder to prove.

So, next time you go buy your dime bag, give it try. Your dealer might just go for it.
 
2011-02-21 11:07:43 PM  

jmadisonbiii: Best advice you'll get here all night.


Best advice? Tell the girl you're making a porn flick and you'll pay her $250 to be in it with you. Then videotape the entire thing. If you're arrested, you're protected under the first amendment. You might even have her sign a "contract" stating that you're paying her to act in a movie.
 
2011-02-21 11:10:24 PM  

Special Guest: InfamousBLT: Isn't that entrapment? I didn't think the police were allowed to specify a fee or ask for sex, I was pretty sure that you had to ask them and specify a fee or it is entrapment.


Actually, that's exactly what it means. Entrapment is when the police initiate a crime, which is a big hassle in prostitution stings, since you have to make sure that that was what was being offered, and not just capitalizing on the opportunity presented by the officer. I think the officer can ask for sex, but can't mention money.
 
2011-02-21 11:11:35 PM  
However, it is true that asking that question doesn't help. The police are allowed to lie, and entrapment has nothing to do with their honesty.
 
2011-02-21 11:11:35 PM  

Lamune_Baba: Wait, wait... violent criminals are dangerous. You want us to to what now? No, no... no man. We've got families to get home to. We're going to just respond to Craigslist ads for women brazen enough to ask for cash in exchange for sex instead of the typical dinner and some jewelry. Priorities, man.


Um... no. The number of cops assigned to catch violent criminals far, far outweighs the number of cops assigned to do prostitution stings. Why do you think escort services are so lucrative? The chance of a girl getting arrested are almost nil. The chance of a violent criminal getting arrested are way higher.
 
2011-02-21 11:15:58 PM  

cretinbob: What they do is send over a little Thai girl.... (new window)


Reno 911 is lame.
 
2011-02-21 11:21:11 PM  

I Like Shiny Things: Darth_Lukecash: Sadly, you can't just ask an undercover officer if their cops...they are legally allowed to maintain their cover up till the time of arrest.

Yah, I think Johnny Depp and 21 Jump Street covered that like 25 years ago, but thanks for playing.


And Breaking Bad did too.

Link (new window)
 
2011-02-21 11:21:46 PM  

Gimbal: The woman is charged with offering to commit prostitution, a second-degree misdemeanor, according to the report.

And meanwhile, the actual perpetrators running the ring are (2) on the lamb, because (1) the sting tipped 'em off.

Way to go, local guys

:smirk:


This tidbit was linked to the article.

images.onset.freedom.com
Actual mugshot of a Pimp
 
2011-02-21 11:31:48 PM  

Happy Hours: I Like Shiny Things: Darth_Lukecash: Sadly, you can't just ask an undercover officer if their cops...they are legally allowed to maintain their cover up till the time of arrest.

Yah, I think Johnny Depp and 21 Jump Street covered that like 25 years ago, but thanks for playing.

And Breaking Bad did too.

Link (new window)


You are correct.

But for god's sake don't tell the kids to get their eduction from TV and movies.
 
2011-02-21 11:52:28 PM  
t1.gstatic.com
 
2011-02-21 11:58:37 PM  
Why is this illegal again?
 
2011-02-22 12:54:33 AM  

CruiserTwelve: Lamune_Baba: Wait, wait... violent criminals are dangerous. You want us to to what now? No, no... no man. We've got families to get home to. We're going to just respond to Craigslist ads for women brazen enough to ask for cash in exchange for sex instead of the typical dinner and some jewelry. Priorities, man.

Um... no. The number of cops assigned to catch violent criminals far, far outweighs the number of cops assigned to do prostitution stings. Why do you think escort services are so lucrative? The chance of a girl getting arrested are almost nil. The chance of a violent criminal getting arrested are way higher.


The number of cops assigned to escort services is infinitely higher than it should be, though. Any number higher than "zero," to be precise.
 
2011-02-22 01:01:13 AM  

Darth_Lukecash: Sadly, you can't just ask an undercover officer if their cops...they are legally allowed to maintain their cover up till the time of arrest.


Don't know why people still think this either.
 
2011-02-22 01:02:42 AM  

McVodkaBreath: InfamousBLT: Isn't that entrapment? I didn't think the police were allowed to specify a fee or ask for sex, I was pretty sure that you had to ask them and specify a fee or it is entrapment.

THIS. It may not TECHNICALLY be entrapment, but ffs, aren't there worse law-offenders a cop can be trying to stick in jail? Aren't there violent criminals that need to be incarcerated much more than online prosties?

/FSM forbid we legalize & regulate the sex trade


Right.. so because there are murderers on the loose no crimes lower than murder should ever be prosecuted.
 
2011-02-22 01:06:13 AM  

missiv: Gimbal: The woman is charged with offering to commit prostitution, a second-degree misdemeanor, according to the report.

And meanwhile, the actual perpetrators running the ring are (2) on the lamb, because (1) the sting tipped 'em off.

Way to go, local guys

:smirk:


This tidbit was linked to the article.


www.kaushik.net
 
2011-02-22 01:30:24 AM  

BradleyUffner: McVodkaBreath: InfamousBLT: Isn't that entrapment? I didn't think the police were allowed to specify a fee or ask for sex, I was pretty sure that you had to ask them and specify a fee or it is entrapment.

THIS. It may not TECHNICALLY be entrapment, but ffs, aren't there worse law-offenders a cop can be trying to stick in jail? Aren't there violent criminals that need to be incarcerated much more than online prosties?

/FSM forbid we legalize & regulate the sex trade

Right.. so because there are murderers on the loose no crimes lower than murder should ever be prosecuted.


Are you implying that prostitution should even be prosecuted to begin with?

If so, you're either some philosophical genius that is beyond the thinking of the average human, or a complete idiot that knows nothing of liberty or even common sense.
 
2011-02-22 01:32:27 AM  

ReverendJasen: Why is this illegal again?


God finds it icky.
 
2011-02-22 01:46:28 AM  

username101: The number of cops assigned to escort services is infinitely higher than it should be, though. Any number higher than "zero," to be precise.


Like you, I think prostitution should be legalized. The legislature disagrees with us though.
 
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