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(SFGate)   With GOP sponsored cuts to public radio, many stations will be forced to shutter their doors. Fark: Most are right leaning   ( sfgate.com) divider line
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2011-02-21 01:54:43 PM  
No, most are in republican-leaning areas.
 
2011-02-21 02:10:53 PM  
That's what happens when you start to believe that the straw-man you have been agitating and complaining about for decades is real. This will not be the last unnecessary injury to rural voters that comes out of the Republican's idiotic budget cuts.
 
2011-02-21 03:06:54 PM  
Republicans think they're screwing liberals and MPR has been complaining non-stop on the air about the cuts, but they're a media powerhouse and can take it. The real victims are rural listeners becoming even more cut off from information.
 
2011-02-21 03:07:33 PM  
I can't recall the last time I heard anything on NPR that was capital L Liberal.
 
2011-02-21 03:16:56 PM  

Lumpmoose: Republicans think they're screwing liberals and MPR has been complaining non-stop on the air about the cuts, but they're a media powerhouse and can take it. The real victims are rural listeners becoming even more cut off from information.


So they get their wish granted. Big deal. They've been trying to restrict everyone's access to information and now they're going to lose access to a source that tells them what information should be suppressed. Who cares. They want ignorance and now they got it.

maybe they should adhere to the free market and stop redistributing the wealth.
 
2011-02-21 03:38:04 PM  
Maybe NPR should start selling commercials.
 
2011-02-21 03:50:50 PM  
Good, the less Limbaugh and Beck Derp there is the better. Nobody that I know listens to them regularly. They both have some good guests on that are worth listening to, On Youtube so I can FF the parts where Beck is talking, but those two need to go away. They both are part of the problem.
 
2011-02-21 03:52:19 PM  
Shutters on doors can be very attractive. That is, unless you mean close.
 
2011-02-21 04:00:04 PM  

borg: Maybe NPR should start selling commercials.


Do you listen to NPR? Or watch PBS?

I love me some public radio and television (for the most part - shiat like the Food schmooze drives me apeshiat).

But when they call NPR and PBS "commercial-free", it strikes me as a huge lie.
 
2011-02-21 04:11:08 PM  

Babwa Wawa: borg: Maybe NPR should start selling commercials.

Do you listen to NPR? Or watch PBS?

I love me some public radio and television (for the most part - shiat like the Food schmooze drives me apeshiat).

But when they call NPR and PBS "commercial-free", it strikes me as a huge lie.


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2011-02-21 04:15:56 PM  

Lost Thought 00: Babwa Wawa: borg: Maybe NPR should start selling commercials.

Do you listen to NPR? Or watch PBS?

I love me some public radio and television (for the most part - shiat like the Food schmooze drives me apeshiat).

But when they call NPR and PBS "commercial-free", it strikes me as a huge lie.

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2011-02-21 04:17:34 PM  
So, in other words, cutting funding kills NPR in Republican-friendly areas, while in Democrat-friendly areas the membership can probably make up the difference.

Where will Republican-friendly areas get their Lawrence Welk fix now?
 
2011-02-21 04:22:53 PM  
I'm sure the Tea Party will make up the difference with private donations, what with all that gold lying around.
 
2011-02-21 04:30:49 PM  

hubcity: Where will Republican-friendly areas get their Lawrence Welk fix now?


They wouldn't want that freakin' hippie!
(new window)
 
2011-02-21 04:31:52 PM  
Assuming the stations are right-leaning, this hardly makes a difference now that Faux News is MSM.
 
2011-02-21 04:38:17 PM  
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2011-02-21 04:47:08 PM  
Dollars to donuts that those who listen to those radio stations that are right leaning will blame Obama for taking away their Limbaugh and Beck.
 
2011-02-21 04:48:12 PM  
It's not Ironic it's called being principled. That means you support what you believe in even when it hurts you. But liberals don't know what that means so I'm not surprised you don't understand.
 
2011-02-21 04:49:51 PM  

2wolves: I can't recall the last time I heard anything on NPR that was capital L Liberal.


NPR isn't liberal. That's a myth.

Frankly it's pretty balanced. More importantly, it's fairly incisive, and is willing to discuss the news in considerably more depth than the TV networks or cable news channels. It's probably the best, most informative mainstream news outlet in the country right now. Figures the Republicans would want to kill it.
 
2011-02-21 04:50:39 PM  

pxsteel: Lost Thought 00: Babwa Wawa: borg: Maybe NPR should start selling commercials.

Do you listen to NPR? Or watch PBS?

I love me some public radio and television (for the most part - shiat like the Food schmooze drives me apeshiat).

But when they call NPR and PBS "commercial-free", it strikes me as a huge lie.

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FTFY
 
2011-02-21 04:51:41 PM  

Lackofname: Dollars to donuts that those who listen to those radio stations that are right leaning will blame Obama for taking away their Limbaugh and Beck.


You're not naive enough to think that Limbaugh and Beck are on an NPR station, are you?
 
2011-02-21 04:53:01 PM  
I don't give a shiat about evangelicals, and NPR will be fine. I care about 89.7, the independant radio station in Baltimore that puts out the only decent programing that isn't rendered insufferable by hours of insipid advertising.

So, thanks for shiatting all over that, D.C. And you, all of you political junkies on here: I know your cause is important, I really do. And I'm sure that each and every single one of you is absolutely right about everything, and everyone who disagrees with you is a paid shill contributing to the destruction of America. But seriously, could you all just fark off every once in a while, and just let the rest of us have a single goddamn thing that doesn't have to be destroyed to save American values?
 
2011-02-21 04:54:47 PM  
FTA: House Republicans are in for a surprise if they intend to dish some payback to liberal parts of the nation by eliminating federal funding for the Corporation for Public Broadcasting...

Republicans: "We want to save money."
SFGate: "Nuh-uh, you want to dish out payback to liberals! We can tell by the way what you're doing will save money and won't hurt liberals at all!"
Republicans: *FACEPALM*
 
2011-02-21 04:57:28 PM  
But they said they get almost zero money from the feds and that is why they can spew their communist venom and fire Juan Williams? I am confused.
 
2011-02-21 05:03:28 PM  
Once again, the GOP gets bit on the ass by the Law of Unintended Consequences.
 
2011-02-21 05:07:04 PM  

jedihirsch: It's not Ironic it's called being principled. That means you support what you believe in even when it hurts you. But liberals don't know what that means so I'm not surprised you don't understand.


This is probably a troll, but the most tea party-ish person I know would agree with this. He believes the government should not be funding any sort of public broadcasting, and if that means it would hurt mostly right-wing radio stations and he would be unable to listen to Rush and Beck, so be it.
 
2011-02-21 05:09:27 PM  

bigsteve3OOO: But they said they get almost zero money from the feds and that is why they can spew their communist venom and fire Juan Williams? I am confused.


You're not confused. You're schizophrenic.
 
2011-02-21 05:24:01 PM  
Because if it's not Right-Wing GOP, it's pinko-commie Liberal.
 
2011-02-21 05:24:47 PM  
i710.photobucket.com

/Ha. Ha.
 
2011-02-21 05:25:33 PM  

bigsteve3OOO: But they said they get almost zero money from the feds and that is why they can spew their communist venom and fire Juan Williams? I am confused.


NPR gets about 2% of their funding from the feds. As far as I know, this is indirect funding (e.g. feds pay community stations, community stations pay NPR dues), not direct funding.

Public radio stations, such as small community stations, get a substantial chunk of their income from public funding sources like the Corporation for Public Broadcasting. Some of those stations use some of that money for buying NPR feeds.
 
2011-02-21 05:30:02 PM  
If KUHF radio gets defunded, does this mean KTRU won't be sold?

Hmm, losing the local NPR station or losing a good college radio station?

At least the local pacifica station is listener sponsored
 
2011-02-21 05:37:44 PM  

borg: Maybe NPR should start selling commercials.



Most of their FM member stations have Non-Commercial/Educational FCC licensure, which forbids running commercials from a for-profit enterprise. To an extent, they have with 'enhanced underwriting' but the rules for what constitutes an acknowledgement of underwriting support vs. a commercial are rather clear cut, although the presentation (esp. on PBS) can seem commercial-like.

So, yeah. NPR the network can go start selling advertising tomorrow as far as the FCC is concerned. But something like 90% of their FM member stations (all AM licensure is commercial) couldn't legally broadcast it.

Any other questions? dumb statements?
 
2011-02-21 05:47:12 PM  

Skip Intro: borg: Maybe NPR should start selling commercials.


Most of their FM member stations have Non-Commercial/Educational FCC licensure, which forbids running commercials from a for-profit enterprise. To an extent, they have with 'enhanced underwriting' but the rules for what constitutes an acknowledgement of underwriting support vs. a commercial are rather clear cut, although the presentation (esp. on PBS) can seem commercial-like.

So, yeah. NPR the network can go start selling advertising tomorrow as far as the FCC is concerned. But something like 90% of their FM member stations (all AM licensure is commercial) couldn't legally broadcast it.

Any other questions? dumb statements?


That rule (it's not a law) could be changed tomorrow, then they could legally broadcast it.

Any other dumb statements?
 
2011-02-21 05:50:02 PM  

Macinfarker: Assuming the stations are right-leaning, this hardly makes a difference now that Faux News is MSM.


The preferred terminology is "mainstream MSM media"
 
2011-02-21 05:53:27 PM  

borg: Skip Intro: borg: Maybe NPR should start selling commercials.


Most of their FM member stations have Non-Commercial/Educational FCC licensure, which forbids running commercials from a for-profit enterprise. To an extent, they have with 'enhanced underwriting' but the rules for what constitutes an acknowledgement of underwriting support vs. a commercial are rather clear cut, although the presentation (esp. on PBS) can seem commercial-like.

So, yeah. NPR the network can go start selling advertising tomorrow as far as the FCC is concerned. But something like 90% of their FM member stations (all AM licensure is commercial) couldn't legally broadcast it.

Any other questions? dumb statements?

That rule (it's not a law) could be changed tomorrow, then they could legally broadcast it.

Any other dumb statements?


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2011-02-21 05:54:38 PM  

AnotherDisillusionedCollegeStudent: mainstream MSM media


What does methysulfonylmethane have to do with anything?

Their dope sucks?
 
2011-02-21 05:58:56 PM  
Left or Right it does not matter. The federal government has no business funding/operating radio or TV stations. Its activites should be limtied to assigning frequencies to these businesses.

The commerce clause says regulate commerce between the states not engage in commerce.
 
2011-02-21 06:01:37 PM  
As long as NPR is ok, I'm fine with it. NPR is the only thing on the radio that doesn't suck anymore.
 
2011-02-21 06:05:16 PM  

hasty ambush: Left or Right it does not matter. The federal government has no business funding/operating radio or TV stations. Its activites should be limtied to assigning frequencies to these businesses.

The commerce clause says regulate commerce between the states not engage in commerce.


The constitution also doesn't say that congressmen are allowed to breathe. I guess the federal government has no business living, then.
 
2011-02-21 06:15:57 PM  

Saiga410: pxsteel: Lost Thought 00: Babwa Wawa: borg: Maybe NPR should start selling commercials.

Do you listen to NPR? Or watch PBS?

I love me some public radio and television (for the most part - shiat like the Food schmooze drives me apeshiat).

But when they call NPR and PBS "commercial-free", it strikes me as a huge lie.

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FTFY
 
2011-02-21 06:17:35 PM  
SkittlesAreYum 2011-02-21 05:07:04 PM
[snips ravings of schizoid Jedi]
...the most tea party-ish person I know would agree with this. He believes the government should not be funding any sort of public broadcasting, and if that means it would hurt mostly right-wing radio stations and he would be unable to listen to Rush and Beck, so be it.

OK, the GOP is gonna take away this Tea Party dude's Beck & Limbaugh and that's just the way he likes it?

He's NOT gonna blame Fartbongo?

I are confoozed.
 
2011-02-21 06:17:59 PM  

borg: That rule (it's not a law) could be changed tomorrow, then they could legally broadcast it.


Semantics. FCC 'rules' are legally enforceable with civil and criminal penalties. Works like a law, talks like a law, looks like a law... but it's a 'rule'.

But technically, you're correct, as is your theory that could be changed tomorrow. Just as in theory, Congress could pass legislation to be signed into law tomorrow that would dismantle the TSA, guarantee every 8 year old a puppy, and set reasonable blowjob prices from coast to coast. Neither will happen.

And if you know FCC regs are by designation 'rules' and not 'laws', then you know the pure inanity of what you suggest actually happening... yet you continue to be disingenuous.

Any other dumb responses?
 
2011-02-21 06:19:53 PM  
AW WHERE THE HELL MY ITALIX GO?

(cries)
 
2011-02-21 07:17:09 PM  

Saborlas: Once again, the GOP gets bit on the ass by the Law of Unintended Consequences.


It's a totally intended consequence. After killing off rural public media outlets, all that will be left will be syndicated talk radio, which carries only wingnut propaganda.

It's masterful for a political movement that requires its electorate be ignorant.
 
2011-02-21 07:25:33 PM  
I've always wondered why talk radio is so right wing. There have been a few attempts at liberal talk shows, but that's not what sells. Print media on the other hand seems to be far more liberal. Does that answer it's own question?
 
2011-02-21 07:40:25 PM  

jedihirsch: It's not Ironic it's called being principled. That means you support what you believe in even when it hurts you. But liberals don't know what that means so I'm not surprised you don't understand.


^^^

Subby misses the point entirely.
 
2011-02-21 08:02:19 PM  

cretinbob: I've always wondered why talk radio is so right wing. There have been a few attempts at liberal talk shows, but that's not what sells.


Whatever you think of right-wing talk show hosts, by and large they paid their dues in radio. The Air America model crashed and burned not because it was liberal, but because they led with celebrity hosts who had little if any experience in radio. They also wasted a pile of money buying brokered time on peashooter AM stations. So they were on in New York City, all right - on some station down at the ass end of the dial that could barely reach Queens.

And they actually thought they were going to beat WABC with that.
 
2011-02-21 08:07:29 PM  

SkittlesAreYum: jedihirsch: It's not Ironic it's called being principled. That means you support what you believe in even when it hurts you. But liberals don't know what that means so I'm not surprised you don't understand.

This is probably a troll, but the most tea party-ish person I know would agree with this. He believes the government should not be funding any sort of public broadcasting, and if that means it would hurt mostly right-wing radio stations and he would be unable to listen to Rush and Beck, so be it.


Nope not a troll
 
2011-02-21 08:26:05 PM  
I'm sure the Kock brothers will step in to pick up the slack for these poor rural stations.

hahahahahahahaha
 
2011-02-21 09:01:00 PM  

hasty ambush: Left or Right it does not matter. The federal government has no business funding/operating radio or TV stations. Its activites should be limtied to assigning frequencies to these businesses.

The commerce clause says regulate commerce between the states not engage in commerce.


And yet, the courts, whose job it is to interpret the Constitution, don't see it that way. Your personal opinions are not "the truth", friend.
They're just your opinions.

P.S.: Strict constructionalist = f**king idiot. End of story.
 
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