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2011-02-21 05:11:37 PM
Flab: yikes. The situation must be similar for planes sent by other countries.

The Russians are going to have fighter escorts for their transports as soon as they get various permissions.
 
2011-02-21 05:11:48 PM

Flab: Al Jazeera reporter in Istanbul says Benghazi airport is now unmanned and that Turkish planes sent to get Turkish citizens out have had to turn away as a result.

yikes. The situation must be similar for planes sent by other countries.


Runways are probably bombed, too.
 
2011-02-21 05:12:04 PM
So who's next. Saudi Arabia? Syria? Jordan? Gonna be an interesting year.
 
2011-02-21 05:24:10 PM
11:46pm: Unconfirmed reports suggest the Migraha tribe has now abandoned Gaddafi. This follows the Tuareg and Warfela tribes who came out in support of the protests yesterday.

From Al Jazeera (new window)
 
2011-02-21 05:25:29 PM
We have our new Iraqi Information Minister: Deputy Foreign Minister Khalid Kaaem. According to him: there's no bloodbath, communications were never disrupted, there was no aerial bombardment and no mercenaries. He will burn himself in Green Square in Tripoli if anyone can find proof of these things.

Oh yeah, and the foreign press will be welcome to come and have a look around... in a couple of days when they've gotten everything straightened up.

Qaddafi himself is supposed to be giving a speech shortly.
 
2011-02-21 05:25:54 PM
Unconfirmed reports of Mercenaries attacking Darnah city

From Al Jazeera (new window)
 
2011-02-21 05:27:49 PM
ruta: We have our new Iraqi Information Minister: Deputy Foreign Minister Khalid Kaaem. According to him: there's no bloodbath, communications were never disrupted, there was no aerial bombardment and no mercenaries. He will burn himself in Green Square in Tripoli if anyone can find proof of these things.

Oh yeah, and the foreign press will be welcome to come and have a look around... in a couple of days when they've gotten everything straightened up.

Qaddafi himself is supposed to be giving a speech shortly.


Baghdad Bob's Libyan cousin, no doubt. He also says that the unrest is Al Jazeera's fault.
 
2011-02-21 05:27:55 PM

Coelacanth: as they get various permissions.


That's the problem. If they don't get permission, it would be considered an act of agression. You can't just fly armed fighters over someone's airspace because you feel like it.

wasteofspace: So who's next. Saudi Arabia? Syria? Jordan? Gonna be an interesting year.


My money's on Jordan. Or Thailand, if they manage to get enough demonstrators.
 
2011-02-21 05:31:24 PM

Flab: My money's on Jordan.


I meant Syria.

/Damn work interfering with my Farking.
 
2011-02-21 05:31:38 PM
In addition to claiming that Al Jazeera is responsible for the unrest, Libya's Deputy Foreign Minister is scolding the network for their "dismal coverage".

AJ then asked him to let them into the country so they could report on events better.

From Al Jazeera (new window)
 
2011-02-21 05:44:27 PM

TappingTheVein: wasteofspace: Why. Cause I don't agree with a racist such as yourself?

You don't agree that a jihadist islamic terrorist organization is a jihadist islamic terrorist organization.

Good for you i guess.

Keep not answering the questions or calling me a racist without any proof. Adds to your argument.

wasteofspace: I said I agree with Israels right to exist within its original borders. What does that have to do with Hamas.

Because there is no original borders according to them. You consider them a worthy political contender, right ?

wasteofspace: You're a liar and a racist Tappy, but hey, keep up your inane rambling. Makes you look like the turd you are.

Keep not answering and accusing me with bullshiat.

wasteofspace: shiat floats. That's the category you're in.

You are truly a master debater. One of the best I've encountered so far.


Do you agree Irgun was a terrorist organization?

And I said that where again?

I answered. Remember the forest fire thread Tappy? WE ALL KNOW WHO DID IT!!!!(dirty arab terrorists) Coupla kids playin with fire. BUT I WAS RIGHT ABOUT WHO DID IT!!!!!(dirty arabs)

You don't actually think that anyone who replies to your posts is actually debating you do you??? You poor simple fool. I wouldn't call talking to a child such as yourself 'debating'

To move on and get back on topic Tappy, what are your thoughts about what is happening around you. Regimes falling, perhaps radical islam taking over. Complacent? Nonplussed? Panty peeing?
 
2011-02-21 05:50:49 PM

Flab: Flab: My money's on Jordan.

I meant Syria.

/Damn work interfering with my Farking.


No matter who it is, betcha Swiss bankers are working overtime.
Steal from your own people and sooner or later they're gonna say enough.
 
2011-02-21 05:56:54 PM

RevCarter: Farker T: TappingTheVein: Farker T: So this is all about Jews then, is it, TappingTheVein?

Can't take a joke Herr Farker T ? Qaddafi shares your feelings about jews and probably your view on the Holocaust.


Really? What are Gadaffi's views on Jews? [linked cites, please]

What are his views on the Holocaust? [linked cites, please]


Ooh, I can do this one - Link (new window)

In his own words no less.


TappingTheVein READ this. READ IT.

QFT
 
2011-02-21 05:58:20 PM

wasteofspace: TappingTheVein: wasteofspace: Why. Cause I don't agree with a racist such as yourself?

You don't agree that a jihadist islamic terrorist organization is a jihadist islamic terrorist organization.

Good for you i guess.

Keep not answering the questions or calling me a racist without any proof. Adds to your argument.

wasteofspace: I said I agree with Israels right to exist within its original borders. What does that have to do with Hamas.

Because there is no original borders according to them. You consider them a worthy political contender, right ?

wasteofspace: You're a liar and a racist Tappy, but hey, keep up your inane rambling. Makes you look like the turd you are.

Keep not answering and accusing me with bullshiat.

wasteofspace: shiat floats. That's the category you're in.

You are truly a master debater. One of the best I've encountered so far.

Do you agree Irgun was a terrorist organization?

And I said that where again?

I answered. Remember the forest fire thread Tappy? WE ALL KNOW WHO DID IT!!!!(dirty arab terrorists) Coupla kids playin with fire. BUT I WAS RIGHT ABOUT WHO DID IT!!!!!(dirty arabs)

You don't actually think that anyone who replies to your posts is actually debating you do you??? You poor simple fool. I wouldn't call talking to a child such as yourself 'debating'

To move on and get back on topic Tappy, what are your thoughts about what is happening around you. Regimes falling, perhaps radical islam taking over. Complacent? Nonplussed? Panty peeing?


Why don't you two get a room, some extra lube and a whole bag of quarters for the vibrating bed?
 
2011-02-21 06:02:00 PM

Lt. Cheese Weasel: Why don't you two get a room, some extra lube and a whole bag of quarters for the vibrating bed?


I think it's kinda obvious wasteofspace is TappingTheVein's alt
 
2011-02-21 06:04:45 PM

i rule 34: Lt. Cheese Weasel: Why don't you two get a room, some extra lube and a whole bag of quarters for the vibrating bed?

I think it's kinda obvious wasteofspace is TappingTheVein's alt


I would not know. The ways Alts are mysterious and they are quick to anger. But if that's true, there isn't enough shrinks in this country cuz the bowl is overflowing with disturbed people needing help, like those who argue with themselves.
 
2011-02-21 06:05:59 PM
According to Al Jazeera (new window), Libyan state TV is showing "confessions" by Tunisians in Libya saying they were the instigators of the violence.

I wonder if the government thinks this sort of charade will convince anyone with more than two functioning brain cells.

Here's a clue for you, Muamar- those people fighting against you in the streets have crossed the Rubicon. If they give up, they'll be hunted down and executed. Once you sent in the goons with guns, you put the protesters in a position where they had to win or die. There are far more protesters than bullets in Libya. Think about it.
 
2011-02-21 06:08:56 PM

Lt. Cheese Weasel: wasteofspace: TappingTheVein: wasteofspace: Why. Cause I don't agree with a racist such as yourself?

You don't agree that a jihadist islamic terrorist organization is a jihadist islamic terrorist organization.

Good for you i guess.

Keep not answering the questions or calling me a racist without any proof. Adds to your argument.

wasteofspace: I said I agree with Israels right to exist within its original borders. What does that have to do with Hamas.

Because there is no original borders according to them. You consider them a worthy political contender, right ?

wasteofspace: You're a liar and a racist Tappy, but hey, keep up your inane rambling. Makes you look like the turd you are.

Keep not answering and accusing me with bullshiat.

wasteofspace: shiat floats. That's the category you're in.

You are truly a master debater. One of the best I've encountered so far.

Do you agree Irgun was a terrorist organization?

And I said that where again?

I answered. Remember the forest fire thread Tappy? WE ALL KNOW WHO DID IT!!!!(dirty arab terrorists) Coupla kids playin with fire. BUT I WAS RIGHT ABOUT WHO DID IT!!!!!(dirty arabs)

You don't actually think that anyone who replies to your posts is actually debating you do you??? You poor simple fool. I wouldn't call talking to a child such as yourself 'debating'

To move on and get back on topic Tappy, what are your thoughts about what is happening around you. Regimes falling, perhaps radical islam taking over. Complacent? Nonplussed? Panty peeing?

Why don't you two get a room, some extra lube and a whole bag of quarters for the vibrating bed?


Why. You got some weird fantasy going? Wanna join in?

i rule 34:

I think it's kinda obvious wasteofspace is TappingTheVein's alt


Now that's funny. You hear that Tappy? I'm your alt.
 
2011-02-21 06:09:02 PM

Wenchmaster: According to Al Jazeera (new window), Libyan state TV is showing "confessions" by Tunisians in Libya saying they were the instigators of the violence.

I wonder if the government thinks this sort of charade will convince anyone with more than two functioning brain cells.

Here's a clue for you, Muamar- those people fighting against you in the streets have crossed the Rubicon. If they give up, they'll be hunted down and executed. Once you sent in the goons with guns, you put the protesters in a position where they had to win or die. There are far more protesters than bullets in Libya. Think about it.


A noble thought, bullets vs # of protestors. Damn shame math is so cruel however. Immutable, unwaivering math means alot of death. Iran will make Libya look like a Cape Hatteras beachside clambake.
 
2011-02-21 06:09:07 PM
And the hits just keep on coming.

The NY Times is reporting that political activists and students in Zimbabwe are being arrested for watching Al Jazeera's coverage of the popular uprisings across North Africa.
 
2011-02-21 06:15:12 PM

Wenchmaster: And the hits just keep on coming.

The NY Times is reporting that political activists and students in Zimbabwe are being arrested for watching Al Jazeera's coverage of the popular uprisings across North Africa.


This is getting pretty 'viral'. Interesting and yet so terrifying at the same time.
www.critic-ish.com

'I hope it lasts.'
 
2011-02-21 06:19:36 PM

Lt. Cheese Weasel: Wenchmaster: According to Al Jazeera (new window), Libyan state TV is showing "confessions" by Tunisians in Libya saying they were the instigators of the violence.

I wonder if the government thinks this sort of charade will convince anyone with more than two functioning brain cells.

Here's a clue for you, Muamar- those people fighting against you in the streets have crossed the Rubicon. If they give up, they'll be hunted down and executed. Once you sent in the goons with guns, you put the protesters in a position where they had to win or die. There are far more protesters than bullets in Libya. Think about it.

A noble thought, bullets vs # of protestors. Damn shame math is so cruel however. Immutable, unwaivering math means alot of death. Iran will make Libya look like a Cape Hatteras beachside clambake.


Islamic Revolutionary Guards in Iran won't roll over. Would like to see the people go for it but lots of death is an understatement in that scenario.
 
2011-02-21 06:39:37 PM
Al Jazeera (Arabic) is reporting that there are advertisements in central Africa countries offering up to $2,000 US per day for mercenaries.
 
2011-02-21 06:40:41 PM

wasteofspace: Lt. Cheese Weasel: Wenchmaster: According to Al Jazeera (new window), Libyan state TV is showing "confessions" by Tunisians in Libya saying they were the instigators of the violence.

I wonder if the government thinks this sort of charade will convince anyone with more than two functioning brain cells.

Here's a clue for you, Muamar- those people fighting against you in the streets have crossed the Rubicon. If they give up, they'll be hunted down and executed. Once you sent in the goons with guns, you put the protesters in a position where they had to win or die. There are far more protesters than bullets in Libya. Think about it.

A noble thought, bullets vs # of protestors. Damn shame math is so cruel however. Immutable, unwaivering math means alot of death. Iran will make Libya look like a Cape Hatteras beachside clambake.

Islamic Revolutionary Guards in Iran won't roll over. Would like to see the people go for it but lots of death is an understatement in that scenario.


Not that it really matters, but it's the Iranian Republican Guard (new window)
 
2011-02-21 06:42:07 PM
wasteofspace: Islamic Revolutionary Guards in Iran won't roll over. Would like to see the people go for it but lots of death is an understatement in that scenario.

Wasn't there an article on FARK a couple of days ago about the senior officers in Iran's Revolutionary Guard asking their CO for guarantees that they would not be asked to fire on Iranian protesters? Encouraging thought, if true.
 
2011-02-21 06:43:21 PM

Wenchmaster: Al Jazeera (Arabic) is reporting that there are advertisements in central Africa countries offering up to $2,000 US per day for mercenaries.


Nice. Bring on the skinnies. They'll fight for 2 bucks and some bread. You seem connected Wench. What sites are you watching most?
 
2011-02-21 06:47:32 PM

Wenchmaster: wasteofspace: Islamic Revolutionary Guards in Iran won't roll over. Would like to see the people go for it but lots of death is an understatement in that scenario.

Wasn't there an article on FARK a couple of days ago about the senior officers in Iran's Revolutionary Guard asking their CO for guarantees that they would not be asked to fire on Iranian protesters? Encouraging thought, if true.


Funny thing about soldiers, priority one is always self preservation in times of turmoil. Trusting what a bunch of thugs like the Republican Guards says is like believing in Bernie Madoffs investment portfolio.
 
2011-02-21 07:08:59 PM

Acharne: RevCarter: Farker T: TappingTheVein: Farker T: So this is all about Jews then, is it, TappingTheVein?

Can't take a joke Herr Farker T ? Qaddafi shares your feelings about jews and probably your view on the Holocaust.


Really? What are Gadaffi's views on Jews? [linked cites, please]

What are his views on the Holocaust? [linked cites, please]


Ooh, I can do this one - Link (new window)

In his own words no less.

TappingTheVein READ this. READ IT.

QFT



You know, I clicked the link when RevCarter posted it, (thanks) but didn't read it as it required me to log in to my New York Times account.

But when you made your post, Acharne, I went back and read this op-ed piece.

Frankly, both the content and the author surprised me:


New York Times: The One-State Solution (new window)

By MUAMMAR QADDAFI
Published: January 21, 2009

Quote:

"THE shocking level of the last wave of Israeli-Palestinian violence, which ended with this weekend's cease-fire, reminds us why a final resolution to the so-called Middle East crisis is so important. It is vital not just to break this cycle of destruction and injustice, but also to deny the religious extremists in the region who feed on the conflict an excuse to advance their own causes.

But everywhere one looks, among the speeches and the desperate diplomacy, there is no real way forward. A just and lasting peace between Israel and the Palestinians is possible, but it lies in the history of the people of this conflicted land, and not in the tired rhetoric of partition and two-state solutions.

Although it's hard to realize after the horrors we've just witnessed, the state of war between the Jews and Palestinians has not always existed. In fact, many of the divisions between Jews and Palestinians are recent ones. The very name "Palestine" was commonly used to describe the whole area, even by the Jews who lived there, until 1948, when the name "Israel" came into use.

Jews and Muslims are cousins descended from Abraham. Throughout the centuries both faced cruel persecution and often found refuge with one another. Arabs sheltered Jews and protected them after maltreatment at the hands of the Romans and their expulsion from Spain in the Middle Ages.

The history of Israel/Palestine is not remarkable by regional standards - a country inhabited by different peoples, with rule passing among many tribes, nations and ethnic groups; a country that has withstood many wars and waves of peoples from all directions. This is why it gets so complicated when members of either party claims the right to assert that it is their land.

The basis for the modern State of Israel is the persecution of the Jewish people, which is undeniable. The Jews have been held captive, massacred, disadvantaged in every possible fashion by the Egyptians, the Romans, the English, the Russians, the Babylonians, the Canaanites and, most recently, the Germans under Hitler. The Jewish people want and deserve their homeland.

But the Palestinians too have a history of persecution, and they view the coastal towns of Haifa, Acre, Jaffa and others as the land of their forefathers, passed from generation to generation, until only a short time ago.

Thus the Palestinians believe that what is now called Israel forms part of their nation, even were they to secure the West Bank and Gaza. And the Jews believe that the West Bank is Samaria and Judea, part of their homeland, even if a Palestinian state were established there. Now, as Gaza still smolders, calls for a two-state solution or partition persist. But neither will work.

A two-state solution will create an unacceptable security threat to Israel. An armed Arab state, presumably in the West Bank, would give Israel less than 10 miles of strategic depth at its narrowest point. Further, a Palestinian state in the West Bank and the Gaza Strip would do little to resolve the problem of refugees. Any situation that keeps the majority of Palestinians in refugee camps and does not offer a solution within the historical borders of Israel/Palestine is not a solution at all.

For the same reasons, the older idea of partition of the West Bank into Jewish and Arab areas, with buffer zones between them, won't work. The Palestinian-held areas could not accommodate all of the refugees, and buffer zones symbolize exclusion and breed tension. Israelis and Palestinians have also become increasingly intertwined, economically and politically.

In absolute terms, the two movements must remain in perpetual war or a compromise must be reached. The compromise is one state for all, an "Isratine" that would allow the people in each party to feel that they live in all of the disputed land and they are not deprived of any one part of it.

A key prerequisite for peace is the right of return for Palestinian refugees to the homes their families left behind in 1948. It is an injustice that Jews who were not originally inhabitants of Palestine, nor were their ancestors, can move in from abroad while Palestinians who were displaced only a relatively short time ago should not be so permitted.

It is a fact that Palestinians inhabited the land and owned farms and homes there until recently, fleeing in fear of violence at the hands of Jews after 1948 - violence that did not occur, but rumors of which led to a mass exodus. It is important to note that the Jews did not forcibly expel Palestinians. They were never "un-welcomed." Yet only the full territories of Isratine can accommodate all the refugees and bring about the justice that is key to peace.

Assimilation is already a fact of life in Israel. There are more than one million Muslim Arabs in Israel; they possess Israeli nationality and take part in political life with the Jews, forming political parties. On the other side, there are Israeli settlements in the West Bank. Israeli factories depend on Palestinian labor, and goods and services are exchanged. This successful assimilation can be a model for Isratine.

If the present interdependence and the historical fact of Jewish-Palestinian coexistence guide their leaders, and if they can see beyond the horizon of the recent violence and thirst for revenge toward a long-term solution, then these two peoples will come to realize, I hope sooner rather than later, that living under one roof is the only option for a lasting peace.

Muammar Qaddafi is the leader of Libya.


/Quote


That was an unexpected perspective.

Wouldn't you agree, TappingTheVein?

Looks like it's a bad day for prejudice and bigotry.
 
2011-02-21 07:15:12 PM

Coelacanth: Gawdzila: I see being hot isn't a requirement

There are African women descended from a number of warrior cults who can kill a man just by squeezing his balls.


I'm not disputing their efficacy in causing death, only their efficacy in causing boners.


Flab: You're talking about a guy who dresses in shower curtains. Who says he doesn't think she looks hot?


Bahahaha, touchè!
 
2011-02-21 07:19:14 PM

Lt. Cheese Weasel: wasteofspace: Lt. Cheese Weasel: Wenchmaster: According to Al Jazeera (new window), Libyan state TV is showing "confessions" by Tunisians in Libya saying they were the instigators of the violence.

I wonder if the government thinks this sort of charade will convince anyone with more than two functioning brain cells.

Here's a clue for you, Muamar- those people fighting against you in the streets have crossed the Rubicon. If they give up, they'll be hunted down and executed. Once you sent in the goons with guns, you put the protesters in a position where they had to win or die. There are far more protesters than bullets in Libya. Think about it.

A noble thought, bullets vs # of protestors. Damn shame math is so cruel however. Immutable, unwaivering math means alot of death. Iran will make Libya look like a Cape Hatteras beachside clambake.

Islamic Revolutionary Guards in Iran won't roll over. Would like to see the people go for it but lots of death is an understatement in that scenario.

Not that it really matters, but it's the Iranian Republican Guard (new window)


The Republican Guard was Saddam's forces.
 
2011-02-21 07:27:50 PM

muck4doo: Lt. Cheese Weasel: wasteofspace: Lt. Cheese Weasel: Wenchmaster: According to Al Jazeera (new window), Libyan state TV is showing "confessions" by Tunisians in Libya saying they were the instigators of the violence.

I wonder if the government thinks this sort of charade will convince anyone with more than two functioning brain cells.

Here's a clue for you, Muamar- those people fighting against you in the streets have crossed the Rubicon. If they give up, they'll be hunted down and executed. Once you sent in the goons with guns, you put the protesters in a position where they had to win or die. There are far more protesters than bullets in Libya. Think about it.

A noble thought, bullets vs # of protestors. Damn shame math is so cruel however. Immutable, unwaivering math means alot of death. Iran will make Libya look like a Cape Hatteras beachside clambake.

Islamic Revolutionary Guards in Iran won't roll over. Would like to see the people go for it but lots of death is an understatement in that scenario.

Not that it really matters, but it's the Iranian Republican Guard (new window)

The Republican Guard was Saddam's forces.


I got my wikis mixed in with my peanut butter. Who the fark is responsible for this calamity?
 
2011-02-21 07:35:28 PM

Lt. Cheese Weasel: muck4doo: Lt. Cheese Weasel: wasteofspace: Lt. Cheese Weasel: Wenchmaster: According to Al Jazeera (new window), Libyan state TV is showing "confessions" by Tunisians in Libya saying they were the instigators of the violence.

I wonder if the government thinks this sort of charade will convince anyone with more than two functioning brain cells.

Here's a clue for you, Muamar- those people fighting against you in the streets have crossed the Rubicon. If they give up, they'll be hunted down and executed. Once you sent in the goons with guns, you put the protesters in a position where they had to win or die. There are far more protesters than bullets in Libya. Think about it.

A noble thought, bullets vs # of protestors. Damn shame math is so cruel however. Immutable, unwaivering math means alot of death. Iran will make Libya look like a Cape Hatteras beachside clambake.

Islamic Revolutionary Guards in Iran won't roll over. Would like to see the people go for it but lots of death is an understatement in that scenario.

Not that it really matters, but it's the Iranian Republican Guard (new window)

The Republican Guard was Saddam's forces.

I got my wikis mixed in with my peanut butter. Who the fark is responsible for this calamity?


To be fair to me, gis for Iranian Republican Guard yields..... (new window)
 
2011-02-21 07:37:12 PM

Lt. Cheese Weasel: Lt. Cheese Weasel: muck4doo: Lt. Cheese Weasel: wasteofspace: Lt. Cheese Weasel: Wenchmaster: According to Al Jazeera (new window), Libyan state TV is showing "confessions" by Tunisians in Libya saying they were the instigators of the violence.

I wonder if the government thinks this sort of charade will convince anyone with more than two functioning brain cells.

Here's a clue for you, Muamar- those people fighting against you in the streets have crossed the Rubicon. If they give up, they'll be hunted down and executed. Once you sent in the goons with guns, you put the protesters in a position where they had to win or die. There are far more protesters than bullets in Libya. Think about it.

A noble thought, bullets vs # of protestors. Damn shame math is so cruel however. Immutable, unwaivering math means alot of death. Iran will make Libya look like a Cape Hatteras beachside clambake.

Islamic Revolutionary Guards in Iran won't roll over. Would like to see the people go for it but lots of death is an understatement in that scenario.

Not that it really matters, but it's the Iranian Republican Guard (new window)

The Republican Guard was Saddam's forces.

I got my wikis mixed in with my peanut butter. Who the fark is responsible for this calamity?

To be fair to me, gis for Iranian Republican Guard yields..... (new window)


Meh. It's not a huge mistake. Don't stress yourself out over it.
 
2011-02-21 07:56:19 PM
Revolutionary, republican, can be kinda easy to confuse.
 
2011-02-21 08:05:47 PM

Shakin_Haitian: Revolutionary, republican, can be kinda easy to confuse.


Hey man, I didn't code the fargin google search robot. And I was late for the gym anyway....
 
2011-02-21 09:32:22 PM
Holy shiat.

This is huge, yo.

It's like a human wave moving across a stadium...

It's like a small stone thrown into a still pond...

Go human.

I love you no matter what.

Solid word.

;)
 
2011-02-21 09:38:39 PM

Indubitably: Holy shiat.

This is huge, yo.

It's like a human wave moving across a stadium...

It's like a small stone thrown into a still pond...

Go human.

I love you no matter what.

Solid word.

;)


And p.s. if this hints at a genocide, we must send in the marines. Sooner rather than later.

p.p.s. this is bigger than the war-lies of you know where and whut...

p.p.p.s. real democracies or fake ones? If it were up to me, I'd use our military largesse to foment/support REAL democracy...

See?

I do.

Let's go.

Go democracy!

;)
 
2011-02-21 09:59:05 PM
The "World Democracy Tour 2011" seems to be moving southward in Africa. Since updates on Libya have moved to a new thread, I'll dump the latest few-sentence summaries here:

"World Pro-Democracy Tour 2011":


* Libya: Large protests and unrest
Military ground and air units have fired on demonstrators; estimated "hundreds" dead (BBC). Other military units seem to be siding with the demonstrators. Internet/landline/wireless shut down; reports are slow to get out.

* Morocco: Peaceful protests, government resistance
A few thousand people demonstrated peacefully in the capital. Police did not interfere openly. The government has, however, refused to give into protester demands.

* Iran: new protests reported
Not a lot of information available, but AJ reports "demonstrators taking to the streets in several cities" and "clashes between protests and security forces". Haven't seen many hard numbers; some protests described as "large".

* Yemen: Protests continue, gunfire exchanged
Protests have been continuous in major cities for the past 11 days, with numbers estimated at a few thousands. A few soldiers and a few demonstrators were both reported as having fired on one another, about five deaths.

* Bahrain: Temporary calm after violence
Hundreds of protesters remain at a large intersection in Manama. Government forces (police, military with heavy non-national component) have withdrawn temporarily after having fired on protestors in an effort to clear the demonstrations. BBC reports "a dialogue has begun".

* Syria: Currently quiet after initial protests

* Jordan: Protests lead to some reforms
A series of protests on Fridays led to Jordan's king dismissing the current parliament. However, last Friday at a further protest, clashes occurred between protesters and supporters of the government, leading to "at least 8 injured".

* Kuwait: Government bribes citizens, noncitizens protest
Kuwait's government has dispersed large sums to citizen families in an effort to stave off unrest. However, the very large noncitizen workforce has no such mollifying gestures. Perhaps a thousand demonstrated Friday demanding citizenship; protesters clashed with police, with tens arrested and at least five injured.

* Djbouti: Protests clash with police
A few thousand demonstrators occupied a stadium in the capital Friday; in the evening police moved in with tear gas, etc.

* Algeria: Ongoing protests
This weekend, a few hundred Algerians turned out in the capital and others in other cities. This follows previous larger ("thousands") demonstrations who have had limited encounters with police forces. The government is strongly restricting travel, shutting down trains and blocking roads.

* Ivory Coast: Police fire on protesters
Protests have been going on after a disputed election. Hundreds of demonstrators gathered to protest the reluctance of the election loser to cede power. A couple of deaths in the most recent confrontation, but this has been going on for months, with a few hundred dead total.

* Sudan: Nation splits, president will not run again
Southern Sudan has voted itself off the island in a referendum that makes it its own nation. In the now-smaller nation of Sudan, the President-for-decades has said he will not run again, and that it has nothing to do with the wave of protests and revolts sweeping that part of the world (NYT). Riiiiight.

* Tunisia: Interim government trying to establish itself
Prime Minister is busily purging the govermnent of pro-Ben Ali elements and engaging opposition figures in a "unity coalition". Protests continue demanding democratic reforms.

* Egypt: Military temporarily (?) in charge
After Mubarak's ouster, military has promised a transition government leading to free elections. Protesters remain in Tahrir Square, and declare readiness to re-assemble in numbers if substantive progress is not made.

* Ethiopia: Signs of unrest
A journalist has been arrested for "'attempts to incite' Egypt-style protests" (AJ).

* Zimbabwe: Preemptive arrests
"Dozens" of students, activists, etc arrested for watching reports on Egypt/Tunisia uprisings (NYT).

* Cameroon: Watch this space
The Social Democratic party has suggested that rising food prices might lead to populist uprising.

* Saudi Arabia: Little (yet)
Some have speculated that the same dynamic in Bahrain could lead to unrest in SA. However, SA's higher standard of living and lower tolerance for dissent seem to be keeping a lid on things.

* China: False alarm "Jasmine Revolution"
What if someone tweeted about a revolution but nobody came? Still, China preemptively censored Internet and called out the cops, making a bigger deal of the matter than might otherwise have happened.
 
2011-02-21 10:13:27 PM

Science Farktion: The "World Democracy Tour 2011" seems to be moving southward in Africa. Since updates on Libya have moved to a new thread, I'll dump the latest few-sentence summaries here:

"World Pro-Democracy Tour 2011":


* Libya: Large protests and unrest
Military ground and air units have fired on demonstrators; estimated "hundreds" dead (BBC). Other military units seem to be siding with the demonstrators. Internet/landline/wireless shut down; reports are slow to get out.

* Morocco: Peaceful protests, government resistance
A few thousand people demonstrated peacefully in the capital. Police did not interfere openly. The government has, however, refused to give into protester demands.

* Iran: new protests reported
Not a lot of information available, but AJ reports "demonstrators taking to the streets in several cities" and "clashes between protests and security forces". Haven't seen many hard numbers; some protests described as "large".

* Yemen: Protests continue, gunfire exchanged
Protests have been continuous in major cities for the past 11 days, with numbers estimated at a few thousands. A few soldiers and a few demonstrators were both reported as having fired on one another, about five deaths.

* Bahrain: Temporary calm after violence
Hundreds of protesters remain at a large intersection in Manama. Government forces (police, military with heavy non-national component) have withdrawn temporarily after having fired on protestors in an effort to clear the demonstrations. BBC reports "a dialogue has begun".

* Syria: Currently quiet after initial protests

* Jordan: Protests lead to some reforms
A series of protests on Fridays led to Jordan's king dismissing the current parliament. However, last Friday at a further protest, clashes occurred between protesters and supporters of the government, leading to "at least 8 injured".

* Kuwait: Government bribes citizens, noncitizens protest
Kuwait's government has dispersed large sums to citizen families in an effort to stave off unrest. However, the very large noncitizen workforce has no such mollifying gestures. Perhaps a thousand demonstrated Friday demanding citizenship; protesters clashed with police, with tens arrested and at least five injured.

* Djbouti: Protests clash with police
A few thousand demonstrators occupied a stadium in the capital Friday; in the evening police moved in with tear gas, etc.

* Algeria: Ongoing protests
This weekend, a few hundred Algerians turned out in the capital and others in other cities. This follows previous larger ("thousands") demonstrations who have had limited encounters with police forces. The government is strongly restricting travel, shutting down trains and blocking roads.

* Ivory Coast: Police fire on protesters
Protests have been going on after a disputed election. Hundreds of demonstrators gathered to protest the reluctance of the election loser to cede power. A couple of deaths in the most recent confrontation, but this has been going on for months, with a few hundred dead total.

* Sudan: Nation splits, president will not run again
Southern Sudan has voted itself off the island in a referendum that makes it its own nation. In the now-smaller nation of Sudan, the President-for-decades has said he will not run again, and that it has nothing to do with the wave of protests and revolts sweeping that part of the world (NYT). Riiiiight.

* Tunisia: Interim government trying to establish itself
Prime Minister is busily purging the govermnent of pro-Ben Ali elements and engaging opposition figures in a "unity coalition". Protests continue demanding democratic reforms.

* Egypt: Military temporarily (?) in charge
After Mubarak's ouster, military has promised a transition government leading to free elections. Protesters remain in Tahrir Square, and declare readiness to re-assemble in numbers if substantive progress is not made.

* Ethiopia: Signs of unrest
A journalist has been arrested for "'attempts to incite' Egypt-style protests" (AJ).

* Zimbabwe: Preemptive arrests
"Dozens" of students, activists, etc arrested f ...


You rock.

Solid.

Keep it up, yo.

;)
 
2011-02-22 04:23:54 AM

wasteofspace: Do you agree Irgun was a terrorist organization?


By definition yes however Irgun was a splinter group (albeit a particularly violent one) that did not carry the weight of the Zionist movement and was eventually reabsorbed once Israel began to govern itself. At the time they started conducting violent, deadly attacks, they were about 1800 people who refused to reunite with the Haganah.

Are you trying to compare them to Hamas ? now that's funny.

wasteofspace: And I said that where again?


Here.
Calling Hamas for what they are seemed to offend you for some reason.


I answered.


No, you didn't.

I'll ask again: are Hamas a terrorist organization ? yes or no ?
Please define "Palestine" according to Hamas.

wasteofspace: wasteofspace: Remember the forest fire thread Tappy? WE ALL KNOW WHO DID IT!!!!(dirty arab terrorists) Coupla kids playin with fire. BUT I WAS RIGHT ABOUT WHO DID IT!!!!!(dirty arabs)


Um, I was correct. It was arabs which was obvious even before it was proven since the fire started near an arab village.
I specifically said that it's not certain at that time if it was arson or negligence, look it up.

So for pointing the obvious, and turned out i was right, i'm a racist ? Ok.

wasteofspace: You poor simple fool. I wouldn't call talking to a child such as yourself 'debating'


Now you hurt my feelings. Let me know when you come around to answering the questions you so far ignored repeatedly.

wasteofspace: what are your thoughts about what is happening around you. Regimes falling, perhaps radical islam taking over. Complacent? Nonplussed? Panty peeing?


So far i have no problem with it. Egypt becoming a military dictatorship and not turning into an islamic controlled theocracy. Libya will probably be split into tribal factions. The rest are still busy.
 
2011-02-22 04:37:15 AM

Acharne: TappingTheVein READ this. READ IT.


I did. He wants Israel to commit suicide by becoming a de facto arab nation.

Thank you but we'll pass.

What's your point ?
 
2011-02-22 04:41:50 AM

Farker T: Wouldn't you agree, TappingTheVein?

Looks like it's a bad day for prejudice and bigotry.


I agree that Israel will never commit suicide by turning itself into an arab country, like Qadaffi suggests with his single state solution.

Looks like it's a bad day to be an anti-semite Holocaust denier.
Why is it so hard to answer such a simple question ?

Here, i'll repeat for a 4th time:

do you accept the fact that the nazis carried out a planned mass extermination of jews in death camps using gas chambers and crematoriums ? yes or no ?
 
2011-02-22 08:18:11 AM

Science Farktion: The "World Democracy Tour 2011" seems to be moving southward in Africa. ...


It's...almost as if someone dropped a Democracy Bomb over there.
The fall out is amazing.
 
2011-02-22 11:53:01 AM

TappingTheVein: Farker T: Wouldn't you agree, TappingTheVein?

Looks like it's a bad day for prejudice and bigotry.

I agree that Israel will never commit suicide by turning itself into an arab country, like Qadaffi suggests with his single state solution.

Looks like it's a bad day to be an anti-semite Holocaust denier.
Why is it so hard to answer such a simple question ?



You're an irredeemable liar Tappy. You bring shame on all those who associate with you.
 
2011-02-22 02:28:23 PM

Farker T: You're an irredeemable liar Tappy. You bring shame on all those who associate with you.


That's priceless coming from a Holocaust denier anti-semite shiatstain.

You do have the brain power to realize that the fact that you refuse to answer such a simple question over and over again is very informative right ?

Who knows, maybe you missed it the other 4 times. I'll ask again:

do you accept the fact that the nazis carried out a planned mass extermination of jews in death camps using gas chambers and crematoriums ? yes or no ?
 
2011-02-22 04:17:37 PM
TappingTheVein 2011-02-22 04:23:54 AM
'Are you trying to compare them to Hamas ? now that's funny.'

Murderers are murderers.

'Here.
Calling Hamas for what they are seemed to offend you for some reason.
An islamic jihadist terrorist organization who ran on the platform of "death to Israel" is not by any stretch of the imagination, a legitimate political contender.'

Elected Tappy. Who are you to say who is and who isn't 'a legitimate political contender'

'No, you didn't.

I'll ask again: are Hamas a terrorist organization ? yes or no ?
Please define "Palestine" according to Hamas.'

Yes I did
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'Um, I was correct. It was arabs which was obvious even before it was proven since the fire started near an arab village.
I specifically said that it's not certain at that time if it was arson or negligence, look it up.'

Okeydok

"TappingTheVein 2010-12-03 09:38:49 AM

studebaker hoch: At least maybe the Palestinians will get a bit of peace as Israel focuses on the fire?

Since the palestinians caused the fires, i highly doubt it.
At least they have another reason to celebrate: jews were burnt alive.


zzrhardy: Whether Muslim's did this one, you can be sure they will be doing it in future.

Muslims in Israel have been doing this for years. Usually the police catch them and the fire department prevent a disaster.

TappingTheVein 2010-12-03 10:28:57 AM

Al Gore Vidal Sassoon: Okay, you've convinced yourself that the Reichstag forest fire was set intentionally, and that the Jews Palestinians are responsible for this attack against the Reich Jewish State .

No, i simply know for a fact (like anyone else living in Israel) that starting forest fires is a known tactic used by arabs in Israel. Usually they catch them, sometimes in the act like the ones they caught today.

But who knows, maybe the jews used secret jews mind tricks to force the arabs to commit arson in order to cause damage to/or kill jews.

TappingTheVein 2010-12-03 03:04:47 PM

Al Gore Vidal Sassoon: Arson is certainly a tactic that is used to inflict damage and terror in the region. But the truth is (as you and anyone else living in Israel knows) that the arsonists are usually Jews, and the victims are usually Palestinians.

Maybe in the imaginary Israel you live in. In the actual Israel, where i lived for more than 30 years, the majority of the arsonists are arabs, just like in this case.

In other words, you are talking out of your ass.

TappingTheVein 2010-12-03 03:07:26 PM

Al Gore Vidal Sassoon: If it was arson, there is a good chance that the fires were set by terrorist Jews torching Palestinian crops, and that the fires got out of hand.

Oops.

Somehow you ignored the part where they actually caught the arsonists. In the act.

Oops indeed.

TappingTheVein 2010-12-03 04:17:42 PM

wasteofspace: Yep. 8 seconds later there was a translation with no reference to Palestinians.

There is no such thing as a "palestinian" nationality and there never was. Just like there was never a palestinian country. They are arabs. Arabs living in what was the British Mandate of Palestine. And so were the guys caught. Just like the other arab arsonists before them."

Seems to be a whole bunch of certainty in there Tappy. And that's only your first 4 or 5 posts.

Seriously Tappy, if you see yourself as the white knight of Israel, I'd suggest you give it up. You're doing more harm than good.

And yes Tappy, you are a racist.
 
2011-02-22 06:16:00 PM

wasteofspace: Murderers are murderers.


No: one group was a rogue splinter group who responded to arab violence and mostly dealt with protection and defense of settlements and they were active almost a century ago, the other is a very active jihadist islamic terrorist organization with a declared main goal of eliminating Israel.

wasteofspace: Elected Tappy. Who are you to say who is and who isn't 'a legitimate political contender'


Ah so electing jihadist terrorists somehow cleanses them from what they are ? your logic is astounding.

I am the one your group of jihadi saints declared war on. You should seriously consider reading about your favorite jihdists terrorists or at least read their charter.
Your ignorance while hilarious is quite pathetic.

So you consider a jihadi terrorist group to be a legitimate political contender. Point noted.

wasteofspace: Yes I did


You answered now not directly that you don't consider Hamas a terrorist organization. This ignorance is very good for future reference.
You didn't answer the other question. Again.

wasteofspace: Since the palestinians caused the fires, i highly doubt it.
At least they have another reason to celebrate: jews were burnt alive.



And i was correct. You simply have no clue that palestinians start fires as a form of attacks, they have been doing it for years.
And if you think they don't celebrate israeli casualties than it's just another example for your ignorance.

wasteofspace: sometimes in the act like the ones they caught today.


And i was correct again. They caught a guy starting a fire earlier that day, look it up.

wasteofspace: In other words, you are talking out of your ass.


Strange because i was correct in everything i said. Look it up.

wasteofspace: Somehow you ignored the part where they actually caught the arsonists. In the act.


You are confusing between the ones they caught in the act earlier that day and the ones who started the major fire, you farking idiot. I provided a link about it (here's the one translated) in the thread you are quoting here.

Nice selective editing.

wasteofspace: Seems to be a whole bunch of certainty in there Tappy. And that's only your first 4 or 5 posts.


And i was correct in every one. You did nothing than prove your ignorance and display some fine selective editing.

wasteofspace: And yes Tappy, you are a racist.


Hey whatever you day. I always respect Hamas apologists.
 
2011-02-22 07:58:21 PM

TappingTheVein: Acharne: TappingTheVein READ this. READ IT.

I did. He wants Israel to commit suicide by becoming a de facto arab nation.

Thank you but we'll pass.

What's your point ?


Ohhhhhh you are in Israel. I see. Ok.

What is your solution? Enrage Palestinians? Force them to move.

I'd really like to know.... I find the Palestinian question to be really hard to deal with. I'd like your insight. I aware of the history alerady, no need for a refresher.
 
2011-02-22 10:04:41 PM
+1, Subby.

Now I've got that damn jingle in my head...
 
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