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(Minneapolis Star Tribune)   County weighs going entirely smoke free - even in people's own cars. Citizen, show me your (cigarette) papers   (startribune.com) divider line 221
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2011-02-20 09:44:23 AM
The County Board is considering banning all tobacco use anywhere on county grounds, inside and out, even if you're parked on county property in your own car.

Hmm...not quite like the headline.
 
2011-02-20 11:13:13 AM

St_Francis_P: Hmm...not quite like the headline.


But not far from accurate.
 
2011-02-20 12:56:52 PM

Fear_and_Loathing: St_Francis_P: Hmm...not quite like the headline.

But not far from accurate.


So, the headline is full of shiat, but so is the County.

I cannot wait until the evil of smoking is finally defeated, so booze or fast food is the next cash cow target everyone wants to ban.
 
2011-02-20 01:21:10 PM

FirstNationalBastard: fast food is the next cash cow target everyone wants to ban.


Fast food should be taxed more heavily. They offer cheap, unhealthy food and then the country is left holding the bag for medical costs. A 10% tax on foods at fast food restaurants that don't meet certain health requirements would be barely noticeable by people that eat at a fast food restaurant occasionally, but could solve the impending Medicare crisis.
 
2011-02-20 01:37:53 PM
Are you in the cpunty? Then you are on county property.
 
2011-02-20 01:41:13 PM
FTA: "The proposal came from Board Chair Mike Opat, who cited the litter and health effects of "an ugly and disgusting habit that visits itself on everybody else. It's time to take the next step and get on with it."


He's talking about politics, right?
 
2011-02-20 01:41:22 PM

Sudo_Make_Me_A_Sandwich: FirstNationalBastard: fast food is the next cash cow target everyone wants to ban.

Fast food should be taxed more heavily. They offer cheap, unhealthy food and then the country is left holding the bag for medical costs. A 10% tax on foods at fast food restaurants that don't meet certain health requirements would be barely noticeable by people that eat at a fast food restaurant occasionally, but could solve the impending Medicare crisis.


Just keep throwing dirt on the coffin of accountability.

/People like you are destorying the country, cookie monster
 
2011-02-20 01:42:29 PM
If it keeps people from tossing their flaming cigarette butts out the window while driving, then I'm all for it. Inconsiderate bastards.
 
2011-02-20 01:43:18 PM

FirstNationalBastard: Fear_and_Loathing: St_Francis_P: Hmm...not quite like the headline.

But not far from accurate.

So, the headline is full of shiat, but so is the County.

I cannot wait until the evil of smoking is finally defeated, so booze or fast food is the next cash cow target everyone wants to ban.


I can see fast food getting banned, but never alcohol. Too many politicians are drunks and too many Americans would miss getting shiatfaced before they drive home for the night.
 
2011-02-20 01:45:04 PM

Faille: If it keeps people from tossing their flaming cigarette butts out the window while driving, then I'm all for it. Inconsiderate bastards.


www.cawrecycles.org
 
2011-02-20 01:45:18 PM
too many years of smokers throwing butts out the car window. It would appear they burned up any good will that might have been left.
 
2011-02-20 01:45:26 PM

Sudo_Make_Me_A_Sandwich: FirstNationalBastard: fast food is the next cash cow target everyone wants to ban.

Fast food should be taxed more heavily. They offer cheap, unhealthy food and then the country is left holding the bag for medical costs. A 10% tax on foods at fast food restaurants that don't meet certain health requirements would be barely noticeable by people that eat at a fast food restaurant occasionally, but could solve the impending Medicare crisis.


That's one of the stupidest farking ideas I've ever heard. Half the country yelling that the rich don't pay their fair share, and you want to tax something that's primarily used by the poor.
 
2011-02-20 01:45:31 PM
Wow, following new rules at work is tough.
 
2011-02-20 01:46:19 PM

haterade69: FirstNationalBastard: Fear_and_Loathing: St_Francis_P: Hmm...not quite like the headline.

But not far from accurate.

So, the headline is full of shiat, but so is the County.

I cannot wait until the evil of smoking is finally defeated, so booze or fast food is the next cash cow target everyone wants to ban.

I can see fast food getting banned, but never alcohol. Too many politicians are drunks and too many Americans would miss getting shiatfaced before they drive home for the night.


And they tried with the booze once before, didn't work so well.
 
2011-02-20 01:46:36 PM
This is a *HACK COUGH COUGH* outrage I demand *HOOOORK* to be able to smoke wherever I *HORRKK COUGH SPIT* wherever I want!!1 Frigging LIEberal *COUGH COUGH COUGH HACK* pussies!
 
2011-02-20 01:47:18 PM

Fear_and_Loathing: St_Francis_P: Hmm...not quite like the headline.

But not far from accurate.




I don't smoke. I don't mind the smell of smoke or being around smokers. I think bars were a better place when smoking was allowed indoors.


Know what I do hate? Cigarette buts carelessly thrown all over every frigging parking lot and near the doorways of every frigging public building. Also, the tendency of smokers to cluster around the doorways of public buildings when asked to and provided with a place to smoke a few steps away.


Smokers bring a lot of this on themselves in my opinion.
 
2011-02-20 01:47:23 PM
"The end of all government is a condition where everything not compulsory is prohibited, and everything not prohibited is compulsory."

- anarchists' saying
 
2011-02-20 01:47:39 PM
I don't like people smoking in public places.

But this is a little much.
 
2011-02-20 01:47:50 PM
Ve vill DESTROY ze evil smokers. Ve vill CRUSH zem beneas our shiny leazer BOOTS.

www.ww2incolor.com

I used to wonder, "How did the Germans let that happen to their country?" Now I know.
 
2011-02-20 01:47:52 PM
If everyone quits smoking, they won't have tax dollars to pay for health care for welfare babies. = If you quit smoking, you want to kill poor babies.
 
2011-02-20 01:48:44 PM

Farker T: Faille: If it keeps people from tossing their flaming cigarette butts out the window while driving, then I'm all for it. Inconsiderate bastards.


Too bad that's a European picture.
 
2011-02-20 01:48:45 PM
By the way, in spite of the fact I think smokers bring this type of legislation on themselves, I'm still not for it.
 
2011-02-20 01:49:00 PM

Sudo_Make_Me_A_Sandwich: FirstNationalBastard: fast food is the next cash cow target everyone wants to ban.

Fast food should be taxed more heavily. They offer cheap, unhealthy food and then the country is left holding the bag for medical costs. A 10% tax on foods at fast food restaurants that don't meet certain health requirements would be barely noticeable by people that eat at a fast food restaurant occasionally, but could solve the impending Medicare crisis.


People do a lot of things that jeopardize their health (like playing sports, for example), and our taxes pay for a lot of things that don't benefit us directly. I'll take higher taxes to pay for the fattys over high-horse douchebags like you putting people down for eating a cheeseburger any day.
 
2011-02-20 01:49:38 PM
FTFA "an ugly and disgusting habit that visits itself on everybody else."

...so is being judgmental, but I'm not seeing any bans on that.
 
2011-02-20 01:50:23 PM

haterade69: FirstNationalBastard: Fear_and_Loathing: St_Francis_P: Hmm...not quite like the headline.

But not far from accurate.

So, the headline is full of shiat, but so is the County.

I cannot wait until the evil of smoking is finally defeated, so booze or fast food is the next cash cow target everyone wants to ban.

I can see fast food getting banned, but never alcohol. Too many politicians are drunks and too many Americans would miss getting shiatfaced before they drive home for the night.


I can't believe people are actually talking about fast food in this country being banned like it's an eventual possibility. There are lots of people that are healthy but enjoy an occassional big mac. It's not the Government's job to say what we're allowed to eat. You want the kind of protests and riots you've got in Egypt? Start that.

Not to mention that they tried prohibition. Guess what? IT DOESN'T FARKING WORK.
 
2011-02-20 01:51:33 PM
I think I was just trolled. . .

/people should be able to smoke inside, especially in bars
//nonsmokers are pussies
///I'm a quitter
 
2011-02-20 01:52:20 PM

Gingerwench: FTFA "an ugly and disgusting habit that visits itself on everybody else."

...so is being judgmental, but I'm not seeing any bans on that.


Yeah, being annoyed with morons who thought the Marlboro Man was cool is just as bad as blowing shiat in people's faces.
 
2011-02-20 01:52:26 PM

mrpurple: Fear_and_Loathing: St_Francis_P: Hmm...not quite like the headline.

But not far from accurate.



I don't smoke. I don't mind the smell of smoke or being around smokers. I think bars were a better place when smoking was allowed indoors.


Know what I do hate? Cigarette buts carelessly thrown all over every frigging parking lot and near the doorways of every frigging public building. Also, the tendency of smokers to cluster around the doorways of public buildings when asked to and provided with a place to smoke a few steps away.


Smokers bring a lot of this on themselves in my opinion.


Maybe there should be more places to deposit butts.
 
2011-02-20 01:52:46 PM

mrpurple: I don't smoke. I don't mind the smell of smoke or being around smokers. I think bars were a better place when smoking was allowed indoors.


Yeah I can't even tell you how much I miss waking up with a sore throat and smelling like old cigarette grundies to go along with my chicken wing and beer stench.

Why any non-smoker would want smoking in bars is beyond me.
 
2011-02-20 01:53:41 PM

M0nkeyp0x: Just keep throwing dirt on the coffin of accountability.


How is that removing accountability? If anything, his proposal would hold people MORE accountable for the financial impact that their poor health decisions have on others.
 
2011-02-20 01:53:54 PM
America. Home of the free.
 
2011-02-20 01:53:58 PM

Wise_Guy: Sudo_Make_Me_A_Sandwich: FirstNationalBastard: fast food is the next cash cow target everyone wants to ban.

Fast food should be taxed more heavily. They offer cheap, unhealthy food and then the country is left holding the bag for medical costs. A 10% tax on foods at fast food restaurants that don't meet certain health requirements would be barely noticeable by people that eat at a fast food restaurant occasionally, but could solve the impending Medicare crisis.

People do a lot of things that jeopardize their health (like playing sports, for example), and our taxes pay for a lot of things that don't benefit us directly. I'll take higher taxes to pay for the fattys over high-horse douchebags like you putting people down for eating a cheeseburger any day.


Sudo of course completely misses the fact that just about every other first world country in the entire world has managed to figure out how to 'hold the bag' for every medical decision for their citizens except America. We are an embarrassment to humanity, and it's a shame it'll be another 20 years before that can be corrected...unless this generation ends up just as durp durp as the last one.
 
2011-02-20 01:53:59 PM
I need a cigarette.
I'll be back later.
 
2011-02-20 01:55:09 PM

mrpurple: Fear_and_Loathing: St_Francis_P: Hmm...not quite like the headline.

But not far from accurate.



I don't smoke. I don't mind the smell of smoke or being around smokers. I think bars were a better place when smoking was allowed indoors.


Know what I do hate? Cigarette buts carelessly thrown all over every frigging parking lot and near the doorways of every frigging public building. Also, the tendency of smokers to cluster around the doorways of public buildings when asked to and provided with a place to smoke a few steps away.


Smokers bring a lot of this on themselves in my opinion.


When I want to smoke, I huddle in the alleyway, like a hooker.
 
2011-02-20 01:56:36 PM
I'm gonna go have a cigarette and flick the butt onto the road.
/800% you pick it up tax
 
2011-02-20 01:56:51 PM

rmoody: Gingerwench: FTFA "an ugly and disgusting habit that visits itself on everybody else."

...so is being judgmental, but I'm not seeing any bans on that.

Yeah, being annoyed with morons who thought the Marlboro Man was cool is just as bad as blowing shiat in people's faces.


Oh I stand corrected - from now on I shall generalize all smokers as Marlboro Man-loving inconsiderate smoke-blowers.
/error of my ways, seen
 
2011-02-20 01:57:16 PM
Just accept the fact that the people in charge know what's best for you.
 
2011-02-20 01:58:26 PM
Watch the movie 'Cold Turkey' from 1971. Hilarious to see it coming true.
Link (new window)
 
2011-02-20 01:59:23 PM

Gingerwench: rmoody: Gingerwench: FTFA "an ugly and disgusting habit that visits itself on everybody else."

...so is being judgmental, but I'm not seeing any bans on that.

Yeah, being annoyed with morons who thought the Marlboro Man was cool is just as bad as blowing shiat in people's faces.

Oh I stand corrected - from now on I shall generalize all smokers as Marlboro Man-loving inconsiderate smoke-blowers.
/error of my ways, seen


No, no, I'm sure your the exception to the rule that no one ever sees. Carry on pretending you're not offending anyone, being a self-centered ass is perfectly acceptable to the Galt-thought crowd.
 
2011-02-20 02:00:43 PM
Lucas Davenport would not abide by this if he was still a smoker.
 
2011-02-20 02:00:47 PM
I share my smokes with my son who is thirteen. He smokes 4-5 a day, maybe a little more if we're drinking.
 
2011-02-20 02:01:48 PM

Sudo_Make_Me_A_Sandwich: and then the country is left holding the bag for medical costs.


The same people pushing for the tax are the ones that propose, implement, advocate the laws that leave everyone holding the bag.
 
2011-02-20 02:03:35 PM

Excen: Farker T: Faille: If it keeps people from tossing their flaming cigarette butts out the window while driving, then I'm all for it. Inconsiderate bastards.

Too bad that's a European picture.


Yeah, American fast food consumers never litter.
 
2011-02-20 02:04:47 PM

El Brujo: I share my smokes with my son who is thirteen. He smokes 4-5 a day, maybe a little more if we're drinking.


As long as you don't do it on public property, I'm ok with this.
 
2011-02-20 02:05:36 PM
Minneapolis is once again one of the ten most violent cities in the US, and this is what the local government spends their time on.
 
2011-02-20 02:05:37 PM
you've come a long way, baby
 
2011-02-20 02:07:29 PM

T-Luv: Excen: Farker T: Faille: If it keeps people from tossing their flaming cigarette butts out the window while driving, then I'm all for it. Inconsiderate bastards.

Too bad that's a European picture.

Yeah, American fast food consumers never litter.


Fast food litter is bad so cigarette butts are not? Silly billy. Yes, litter is litter, but those nasty little bits are far too ubiquitous, and far more common than a sandwich wrapper.

Anyway. You are not allowed to poop in public. Nor are you allowed to release your man seed on the sidewalk or grocery store floor or whatever. I don't see much difference between that and this.

I don't really care if you poop or messily jack off in your own car, though. Light up afterwards, if you like. Just don't blow any of it out your window at me. :-)
 
2011-02-20 02:07:57 PM

mrpurple: Fear_and_Loathing: St_Francis_P: Hmm...not quite like the headline.

But not far from accurate.



I don't smoke. I don't mind the smell of smoke or being around smokers. I think bars were a better place when smoking was allowed indoors.


Know what I do hate? Cigarette buts carelessly thrown all over every frigging parking lot and near the doorways of every frigging public building. Also, the tendency of smokers to cluster around the doorways of public buildings when asked to and provided with a place to smoke a few steps away.


Smokers bring a lot of this on themselves in my opinion.


SF imposed an additional 25 cent tax on smokes to fund street cleaning to get rid of all of the ciggie butts. So whereas I never used to throw the butts on the street, I started to since I figured I'm paying for it.

/Just moved to Germany, where the amount of cigs thrown on the street is truly staggering.
 
2011-02-20 02:10:18 PM

rmoody: Gingerwench: rmoody: Gingerwench: FTFA "an ugly and disgusting habit that visits itself on everybody else."

...so is being judgmental, but I'm not seeing any bans on that.

Yeah, being annoyed with morons who thought the Marlboro Man was cool is just as bad as blowing shiat in people's faces.

Oh I stand corrected - from now on I shall generalize all smokers as Marlboro Man-loving inconsiderate smoke-blowers.
/error of my ways, seen

No, no, I'm sure your the exception to the rule that no one ever sees. Carry on pretending you're not offending anyone, being a self-centered ass is perfectly acceptable to the Galt-thought crowd.


I'm sure my smoking, in the abstract, offends many. Many people's habit and ideas offend me. If I find it too much, I avoid them.

/who is John Galt?
 
2011-02-20 02:11:25 PM
Legalize pot and the smoking of it by anyone, anywhere, anytime. Ban all sale, consumption and possession of tobacco, punishable by death to be carried out by any willing citizen on the spot.

This will make everything better.
 
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