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(Daily Mail) Followup Yesterday's Daily Mail: red meat is good for you. Today's Daily Mail: red meat gives you cancer. Glad that's settled then   (dailymail.co.uk) divider line 52
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2011-02-20 07:43:51 AM
Yesterday, today, and the foreseeable future: Daily Fail.
 
2011-02-20 08:02:21 AM
Granted the strip can be pretty bad at times I hardly think it can give you cancer....

/unless you only read the bug eyed earl ones.
 
2011-02-20 09:56:16 AM
gothelder: Granted the strip can be pretty bad at times I hardly think it can give you cancer....

That's ok... even if it does, Savage Love contains antioxidants, so reading it balances it out.
 
2011-02-20 12:00:22 PM
The article yesterday convinced me to invest my life savings in beef futures. Today's article will ruin me.
 
2011-02-20 12:00:56 PM
Good, bad, like all things.......moderation.
 
2011-02-20 12:46:56 PM
Therefore: Cancer is good for you.

Alternate theory: Daily Fail is not a scientific journal.
 
2011-02-20 12:48:34 PM
The Daily Mail is like the Fox news of science. Sometime if you are bored, read a Daily Mail article and then read the actual research article they cite. It's like night and day.

Research article: "A specific chemical in chocolate eaten in gram quantities in mice correlates with a reduced rate of a very specific type of cancer. However getting this much from chocolate is stupid because it would require you to eat pounds of chocolate and then deal with obesity and diabetes issues."

Daily Mail: "CHOCOLATE CURES CANCER."
 
2011-02-20 12:50:03 PM
The (New) Daily Mail Oncological Ontology Project (new window), for all your quasi-scientific fearmongering needs.

/wanders off to assault some podiatrists
 
2011-02-20 12:50:13 PM
Medical science can never make up it's mind. I remember the big thing when I was a kid 'Apples are bad for you'.

Turns out, not so much.
 
2011-02-20 12:52:05 PM
Never trust the media with stories that have to do with foods/items that "cause" or "cure" cancer. Neither ends up being true.

Just keep this mind. An excess of most things can mess with your body.
 
2011-02-20 12:52:27 PM
preciousmetal: Good, bad, like all things.......moderation.

What about moderate castration?
 
2011-02-20 12:52:37 PM
Trance750: Medical science can never make up it's mind. I remember the big thing when I was a kid 'Apples are bad for you'.

Turns out, not so much.


There is of course an enormous disconnect between medical science, and what you read about medical science in the media. You know this, right?
 
2011-02-20 12:54:07 PM
i.dailymail.co.uk
i.imgur.com
 
2011-02-20 12:54:16 PM
What farking color ribbon are they gonna use for red meat cancer?
 
2011-02-20 12:56:51 PM
thechangeordie.org

That is all...
 
2011-02-20 01:00:21 PM
Cancer is probably your only chance at immortality.

\Henrietta Lacks
\AKA Helen Lane
 
2011-02-20 01:01:16 PM
FTA:
In a draft report published in June 2009 the committee of independent experts said lower consumption of red and processed meat would probably reduce the risk of colorectal cancer. The committee said: 'Although the evidence is not conclusive, as a precaution, it may be advisable for intakes of red and processed meat not to increase above the current average


That's some fine headline writing there.
 
2011-02-20 01:04:15 PM
I refuse to listen to 'what is good for you and what isn't'.

My grandmother is 100 years old, eats red meat all the time, cooks everything in bacon grease, always uses real butter and sugar in everything, eats bacon every day, and coats everything in so much salt sometimes it is unbearable.

She still drives, still works in the field during the spring/summer, and is still sharp as a tack. Her sister was the same until she died at 98.

/why, yes, she is from the south
 
2011-02-20 01:07:25 PM
wademh: Cancer is probably your only chance at immortality.

\Henrietta Lacks
\AKA Helen Lane


And omnipresent.
 
2011-02-20 01:09:51 PM
Tomorrow's headline: "Red Meat doesn't really cause cancer, it's the carcinogens being fed to the cows!"
/got nutin'
 
2011-02-20 01:12:33 PM
A daily total of 70g is equivalent to about three rashers of bacon.

What the hell is a "rasher"?!
 
2011-02-20 01:14:16 PM
leonel: rasher

One slice of bacon.
 
2011-02-20 01:15:04 PM
2.bp.blogspot.com
 
2011-02-20 01:15:22 PM
It caused cancer on Saturday, but didn't on Sunday. Are you daft, submitter?
 
2011-02-20 01:17:22 PM
leonel: rasher

An English word (new window)
 
2011-02-20 01:18:03 PM
zulius: Tomorrow's headline: "Red Meat doesn't really cause cancer, it's the carcinogens being fed to the cows!"
/got nutin'


Came to say exactly this.
 
2011-02-20 01:27:51 PM
kukukupo: My grandmother is 100 years old....

She probably mostly ate/eats whole foods. Probably in somewhat of a moderation. Pure vegans have it completely wrong. But red meat should be raised naturally and treated like a side dish.
 
2011-02-20 01:29:13 PM
Why not just skip all 'health' articles in the tabloids and read this instead?

images.harpercollins.co.uk
 
2011-02-20 01:29:50 PM
Witchyman: leonel: rasher

One slice of bacon.


Three slices only?! Couldn't I just, you know save up over a couple of days and blow it on a steak sunday?
 
2011-02-20 01:34:06 PM
I think they are trying to say that red meat is good for us because we are a cancer.
 
2011-02-20 01:40:48 PM
Fark could use a food page
 
2011-02-20 01:47:47 PM
Steak is good for you in moderation because it is protein. It's the bad carbs from breads and sugars and HFCSs that are fattening you. And it's environmental toxins and those carcinogens in factory grown cows that cause cancer.
 
2011-02-20 01:54:07 PM
Hardy-r-r: Fark could use a food page

I like where your head's at.
 
2011-02-20 02:17:05 PM
Poles paid to give blood. Immigration like a flood.
Soft touch British Isles. Cancer from your mobiles,
Cancer from your laptop, cancer from your root crop,
Cancer from your shoes, from your dog, from your pen top,
Immigrants arriving on an unprecedented scale.
It's got to be the case if it's written in the Daily Mail.

-The Daily Mail Song
 
2011-02-20 02:21:40 PM
(joejackson.jpg)
 
2011-02-20 02:26:45 PM
Kevin72: Steak is good for you in moderation because it is protein. It's the bad carbs from breads and sugars and HFCSs that are fattening you. And it's environmental toxins and those carcinogens in factory grown cows that cause cancer.

Well, cows in the US are largely fed corn, which is a highly unusual diet for a grass-eating ruminant. They fatten up faster, but the meat's fattier. It's highly politically desirable due to the midwest corn-growing lobby.

It's a viable hypothesis that the unhealthy nature of beef could be due to the corn-feeding practice. Of course, this would require, you know, evidence to back it up.
 
2011-02-20 02:37:04 PM
kukukupo: I refuse to listen to 'what is good for you and what isn't'.

My grandmother is 100 years old, eats red meat all the time, cooks everything in bacon grease, always uses real butter and sugar in everything, eats bacon every day, and coats everything in so much salt sometimes it is unbearable.

She still drives, still works in the field during the spring/summer, and is still sharp as a tack. Her sister was the same until she died at 98.

/why, yes, she is from the south


Your second paragraph basically explains why the first one is true. If someone were to have the same diet at your grandmother, but sit on their ass all day watching soap operas or fox news or whatever, they would be in a completely different boat.
 
2011-02-20 02:38:30 PM
Make that "your third paragraph basically explains why the second one is true."
 
2011-02-20 02:53:26 PM
thisispete: Poles paid to give blood. Immigration like a flood.
Soft touch British Isles. Cancer from your mobiles,
Cancer from your laptop, cancer from your root crop,
Cancer from your shoes, from your dog, from your pen top,
Immigrants arriving on an unprecedented scale.
It's got to be the case if it's written in the Daily Mail.


Came for this. Left happy.
 
2011-02-20 02:58:56 PM
kukukupo: I refuse to listen to 'what is good for you and what isn't'.

My grandmother is 100 years old, eats red meat all the time, cooks everything in bacon grease, always uses real butter and sugar in everything, eats bacon every day, and coats everything in so much salt sometimes it is unbearable.

She still drives, still works in the field during the spring/summer, and is still sharp as a tack. Her sister was the same until she died at 98.

/why, yes, she is from the south


Methinks the key is exercise. You can eat just about anything and be healthy if you just get moving, fatty.

/Not calling you fatty, just fatties in general.
 
2011-02-20 03:22:17 PM
Oznog , right on! Canadians on FARK like to point out that their steaks are grassfed not cornfed.
 
2011-02-20 04:00:26 PM
thisispete: Poles paid to give blood. Immigration like a flood.
Soft touch British Isles. Cancer from your mobiles,
Cancer from your laptop, cancer from your root crop,
Cancer from your shoes, from your dog, from your pen top,
Immigrants arriving on an unprecedented scale.
It's got to be the case if it's written in the Daily Mail.

-The Daily Mail Song


Came for this, thank you.
 
2011-02-20 04:05:40 PM
Give me quality of life... grilled and wrapped with bacon.

media.wiley.com
 
2011-02-20 04:11:54 PM
FarkinNortherner: The (New) Daily Mail Oncological Ontology Project (new window), for all your quasi-scientific fearmongering needs.

/wanders off to assault some podiatrists


dont for get this Link (new window) which gives you the full list of what cures and causes cancer - check out the fist page in which there are 23 contradictory articles about whether alcohol cures cancer or not - all from the daily mail
 
2011-02-20 04:29:37 PM
Grobbley: kukukupo: I refuse to listen to 'what is good for you and what isn't'.

My grandmother is 100 years old, eats red meat all the time, cooks everything in bacon grease, always uses real butter and sugar in everything, eats bacon every day, and coats everything in so much salt sometimes it is unbearable.

She still drives, still works in the field during the spring/summer, and is still sharp as a tack. Her sister was the same until she died at 98.

/why, yes, she is from the south

Your second paragraph basically explains why the first one is true. If someone were to have the same diet at your grandmother, but sit on their ass all day watching soap operas or fox news or whatever, they would be in a completely different boat.


That is true. My father grew up on a farm and they all ate eggs, meat, ham, everything that is not 'politically correct' to eat today, yet heart disease, obesity, and diabetes were virtually un-heard of.

But as you said, they worked on the farm from first ray of light to well after sundown.
 
2011-02-20 04:49:02 PM
lennavan: The Daily Mail is like the Fox news of science. Sometime if you are bored, read a Daily Mail article and then read the actual research article they cite. It's like night and day.

Research article: "A specific chemical in chocolate eaten in gram quantities in mice correlates with a reduced rate of a very specific type of cancer. However getting this much from chocolate is stupid because it would require you to eat pounds of chocolate and then deal with obesity and diabetes issues."

Daily Mail: "CHOCOLATE CURES CANCER."


I thought that only gypsy tears did that?
 
2011-02-20 04:54:41 PM
Dr.Gonzo7719: Methinks the key is exercise. You can eat just about anything and be healthy if you just get moving, fatty.

This.

I freely admit that I have what most people would consider horrible eating habits. Bacon, steaks, eggs, cheeseburgers, potatoes, chocolate, whatever. I eat food because it tastes good, not because it's "healthy." I also walk at least a mile every day and several miles on my days off. I go hiking around once a month. I do rock climbing and swimming in the summer, and I go skiing in the winter. I do these things because I enjoy them, not because they're healthy.

A few days ago, a cashier at the convenience store near my work commented on how I'm always buying candy bars and soda but never gain weight. I kept my mouth shut, because I've learned that it's never a good idea to tell people they should exercise more.

Me, I just can't stand going to the gym. Working out on an exercise machine is boring, and I don't understand the appeal of treadmills. What's the point of walking without going anywhere? The scenery never changes, and you make no progress. Instead of hitting a treadmill, why not walk through downtown and do some window shopping, or take a hike through a national forest or state park?

The key, IMO, is finding something you enjoy doing that also qualifies as exercise. I prefer walking to driving or taking the bus. I enjoy hiking, rock climbing, skiing, and swimming. To me, these things aren't exercise, they're fun. There's nothing quite like hiking up to the top of a rhododendron bald (pops) and looking at a 360-degree mountain view, or going up a rock face (pops) the hard way. Skiing is always fun (for me at least), and everyone should learn to swim.
 
2011-02-20 05:27:02 PM
lennavan: The Daily Mail is like the Fox news of science.

FTFY
 
2011-02-20 05:49:18 PM
The science media cycle (new window) And no, it isn't a XKCD strip.
 
2011-02-20 06:24:18 PM
Jgok: Dr.Gonzo7719: Methinks the key is exercise. You can eat just about anything and be healthy if you just get moving, fatty.

This.

I freely admit that I have what most people would consider horrible eating habits. Bacon, steaks, eggs, cheeseburgers, potatoes, chocolate, whatever. I eat food because it tastes good, not because it's "healthy." I also walk at least a mile every day and several miles on my days off. I go hiking around once a month. I do rock climbing and swimming in the summer, and I go skiing in the winter. I do these things because I enjoy them, not because they're healthy.

A few days ago, a cashier at the convenience store near my work commented on how I'm always buying candy bars and soda but never gain weight. I kept my mouth shut, because I've learned that it's never a good idea to tell people they should exercise more.

Me, I just can't stand going to the gym. Working out on an exercise machine is boring, and I don't understand the appeal of treadmills. What's the point of walking without going anywhere? The scenery never changes, and you make no progress. Instead of hitting a treadmill, why not walk through downtown and do some window shopping, or take a hike through a national forest or state park?

The key, IMO, is finding something you enjoy doing that also qualifies as exercise. I prefer walking to driving or taking the bus. I enjoy hiking, rock climbing, skiing, and swimming. To me, these things aren't exercise, they're fun. There's nothing quite like hiking up to the top of a rhododendron bald (pops) and looking at a 360-degree mountain view, or going up a rock face (pops) the hard way. Skiing is always fun (for me at least), and everyone should learn to swim.


Yup, I'm pretty much the same. I try to get out at least once a month for at least an overnighter in the mtns of north Georgia, anywhere between 12 and 20 miles with a ~30 lb. pack. And I walk 4 miles at least twice a week out at Kennesaw Mountain, more when it's warmer. This along with pushups/situps/other assorted individual exercises (not a fan of gyms either).

Just gotta get off your butt, and then it doesn't really matter what you eat.

/now, if you've got family history with cholesterol or other things that need to be controlled via diet, well, you're just farked. Me, not so much.
 
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