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2011-02-18 04:51:13 PM  
Too many wimmins, not enough vowels.
 
2011-02-18 05:17:03 PM  
www.jaunted.com
 
2011-02-18 05:17:44 PM  
If gays can marry, polygamy should be allowed too.
 
2011-02-18 05:18:30 PM  
"In Kazakhstan, there are a lot of single women, and it is a national tragedy, because we lose potential mothers,"

Tragedy, sure. Because that's all women are good for, right?
 
2011-02-18 05:18:38 PM  
I'm still amazed that folks don't understand: Mormons oppose gay marriage because legalized gay marriage opens the door to legalized polygamy. And if polygamy is legal, Mormons might have to start practicing it again.
 
2011-02-18 05:19:07 PM  
why shouldn't polygamy be legal? It's not the government's decision to tell me who I can and can't marry, and how many.
 
2011-02-18 05:19:41 PM  
The republicans warned us this would happen... first the gays, now polygamy, next it'll be the beastiality and then the leftists will come for your children.
 
2011-02-18 05:21:32 PM  
Anybody who wants that headache is welcome to it.
 
2011-02-18 05:21:36 PM  

fusillade762: "In Kazakhstan, there are a lot of single women, and it is a national tragedy, because we lose potential mothers,"

Tragedy, sure. Because that's all women are good for, right?


he seems to think that women are biologically meant to bear children. Pretty damn offensive
 
2011-02-18 05:22:46 PM  

Chair5768: first the gays, now polygamy, next it'll be the beastiality and then the leftists will come for your children.


THE ARISTOCRATS! TA DA!
 
2011-02-18 05:24:00 PM  
Send the women to China.
 
2011-02-18 05:25:10 PM  

Listerine: why shouldn't polygamy be legal? It's not the government's decision to tell me who I can and can't marry, and how many.


If it's good enough for King David...
 
2011-02-18 05:26:44 PM  

fusillade762: "In Kazakhstan, there are a lot of single women, and it is a national tragedy, because we lose potential mothers,"

Tragedy, sure. Because that's all women are good for, right?


So when I read that, I thought "haha that was a funny line in Borat" then couldn't remember what part it was from. Dead serious. Then I clicked the link.
 
2011-02-18 05:27:11 PM  
As long as everybody is consenting adults and not little girls forced, I see no problem with polygamy.
 
2011-02-18 05:28:13 PM  

hovsm: As long as everybody is consenting adults and not little girls forced, I see no problem with polygamy.


Oh, and that means women can have multiple husbands. We have to keep it equal.
 
2011-02-18 05:29:04 PM  
As long as they are all adults and not that Warren Jeffs-marrying-kids bullshiat, then go for it. If I want to have 4 husbands and 3 wives and a partridge in a pear tree, I should be allowed to. Why the fark should you care?
 
2011-02-18 05:29:57 PM  
For me to weigh in here... If a man wants to marry two women who have no problem with it, good for them. If two men want to marry one women and all involved have no problem, good for them. Allow it. Why not? There is no non-theological reason why not. And I'm going to go out on a limb here and say freedom of religion does not equate to the freedom of using your religion to deny others their rights.
 
2011-02-18 05:30:25 PM  

hovsm: As long as everybody is consenting adults and not little girls forced, I see no problem with polygamy.


I only see more than one problem with polygamy.
 
2011-02-18 05:31:40 PM  
1.bp.blogspot.com

Said candidate?
 
2011-02-18 05:31:42 PM  

rogue_L_chick: As long as they are all adults and not that Warren Jeffs-marrying-kids bullshiat, then go for it. If I want to have 4 husbands and 3 wives and a partridge in a pear tree, I should be allowed to. Why the fark should you care?


enjoy filing that joint tax return... or writing your will.
 
2011-02-18 05:35:14 PM  
www.mnn.com

I'll take the one on the right. My humanitarian service for Kazakhstan.

Regarding polygamy, I don't understand the strong opposition. Especially from people willing to tolerate marital infidelity.
 
2011-02-18 05:39:51 PM  
Kazakhstan, greatest country in the world. All other countries are run by little girls.
 
2011-02-18 05:40:22 PM  

jaharley: Said candidate?


I can't WAIT to tell my husband!
 
2011-02-18 05:43:00 PM  

Listerine: why shouldn't polygamy be legal? It's not the government's decision to tell me who I can and can't marry, and how many.


Tax/insurance benefits, for one thing
 
2011-02-18 05:43:37 PM  
I'd be fine with polygamy as soon as we get rid of all tax deductions per child and limit welfare benefits so no more than one person in the marriage can apply and the money has to go for every child / adult in the family, again with no increase per child.
 
2011-02-18 05:47:28 PM  

pute kisses like a man: rogue_L_chick: As long as they are all adults and not that Warren Jeffs-marrying-kids bullshiat, then go for it. If I want to have 4 husbands and 3 wives and a partridge in a pear tree, I should be allowed to. Why the fark should you care?

enjoy filing that joint tax return... or writing your will.


So? I'm getting laid 7 days a week. Amiright?
 
2011-02-18 05:47:42 PM  
Fine. However, the marriage penalty remains:

The penalty for polygamy is having multiple wives.
 
2011-02-18 05:47:54 PM  
From TFA: "Asilbek, age 70, also told the magazine that Kazakhstan's air kept men virile even at his age, and that "young girls" often come to his home asking to be his wives."

Have you ever noticed polygamy proponents are always disgusting old men who are looking to get it on with hot young girls?

You never hear any teen girls saying, "You know what would enrich my life and culture? To share a toothless smelly old husband with several of my peers! Let's do this thing people!"
 
2011-02-18 05:52:15 PM  

Listerine: fusillade762: "In Kazakhstan, there are a lot of single women, and it is a national tragedy, because we lose potential mothers,"

Tragedy, sure. Because that's all women are good for, right?

he seems to think that women are biologically meant to bear children. Pretty damn offensive


He also seems to think that it's impossible for them to become mothers without being married first.
 
2011-02-18 05:53:56 PM  
ChaoticLimbs: Fine. However, the marriage penalty remains:

The penalty for polygamy is having multiple wives.


THAT is cruel and unusual punishment.
 
2011-02-18 05:54:33 PM  

hovsm: hovsm: As long as everybody is consenting adults and not little girls forced, I see no problem with polygamy.

Oh, and that means women can have multiple husbands. We have to keep it equal.


Exactly, it's the coercion, child abuse and inequality that are the problem, not the basic concept.
 
2011-02-18 05:54:59 PM  

Contrabulous Flabtraption: If gays can marry, polygamy should be allowed too.


Well, pretty much in every place gays can't marry but I have yet to hear a reasonable argument against either idea. Adults should be allowed to enter in to legally binding civil contracts and they should be allowed to have those contracts called whatever they want to call them. It's all just asset mergers and access rights.
 
2011-02-18 05:57:03 PM  

Chair5768: The republicans warned us this would happen... first the gays, now polygamy, next it'll be the beastiality and then the leftists GOP will come for your children chickens.


FTFY
 
2011-02-18 05:58:16 PM  

logruszed: Contrabulous Flabtraption: If gays can marry, polygamy should be allowed too.

Adults should be allowed to enter in to legally binding civil contracts and they should be allowed to have those contracts called whatever they want to call them. It's all just asset mergers and access rights.


Agreed
 
2011-02-18 05:58:40 PM  

rodeofrog: I'm still amazed that folks don't understand: Mormons oppose gay marriage because legalized gay marriage opens the door to legalized polygamy. And if polygamy is legal, Mormons might have to start practicing it again.


Is this satire?

I really don't think they were ever REQUIRED to practice it, and I'm pretty sure the only reason they stopped was to ensure that when they became a state they could maintain some control over the legislature of Utah.

Who knows why they oppose gay marriage. It's pretty farking stupid. Don't want to marry someone of your own gender then don't.


/having said that I am not opposed to poly-whatever. Who cares? Adults get to do what ever they want when it comes to farking, so why not let them have some kind of binding legal document too?
 
2011-02-18 06:09:50 PM  

pute kisses like a man:
enjoy filing that joint tax return... or writing your will.


"I am head of household. These other people are my dependents.

Oh, and X person gets this percentage, Y this percentage, Z this percentage. And That schmuck pute kisses like a man gets my stereo, the one with the broken knob on it."

To claim that it will massively complicate it all, and make it all untenable, is ridiculous. It will make it more complicated for some people, sure, but we could develop case law to deal with it, tax and inheritance laws to cover it, etc.

Restricting religious freedoms over imagined potential difficulties is authoritarian, and without significant proof that practices such as this are inherently dangerous to the well-being of the state, the whole canard of "Oh gawdz, the taxes and inheritance!" is pretty thin, especially since we have a model for it already written, it's this really really rare thing called a "Partnership", wherein more then two people may choose to create a single legal entity, with all therein sharing in both the rewards and legal dangers of that "partnership".

To put it more simply, "It neither picks my pocket nor breaks my leg", and of some other guy/gal wants to add that suffering to their own docket, it isn't my problem.

As a side note, I am an atheist, and find most religions fairly idiotic. Not the underlying message of most religions, mind you, (The whole "Be nice to each other, you idiot!" thing is pretty cool) but the practices themselves. I do, however, believe very much in equal protection for all religions, or lack thereof, including those religions or philosophies which include the practice of polygamy.
 
2011-02-18 06:15:29 PM  

logruszed: I really don't think they were ever REQUIRED to practice it, and I'm pretty sure the only reason they stopped was to ensure that when they became a state they could maintain some control over the legislature of Utah.


They were commanded to practice it. There was an angel with a flaming sword and all.

The circumstances surrounding the discontinuation of polygamy by mainstream mormons are the subject of some controversy.
 
2011-02-18 06:16:15 PM  

logruszed: rodeofrog: I'm still amazed that folks don't understand: Mormons oppose gay marriage because legalized gay marriage opens the door to legalized polygamy. And if polygamy is legal, Mormons might have to start practicing it again.

Is this satire?

I really don't think they were ever REQUIRED to practice it, and I'm pretty sure the only reason they stopped was to ensure that when they became a state they could maintain some control over the legislature of Utah.

Who knows why they oppose gay marriage. It's pretty farking stupid. Don't want to marry someone of your own gender then don't.


/having said that I am not opposed to poly-whatever. Who cares? Adults get to do what ever they want when it comes to farking, so why not let them have some kind of binding legal document too?


I can't tell if it's satire either. But it's not an argument from ignorance either. Rodeo is ex-mormon, so that can't be it.

It must be an attempt at humor. Oh, my sides doth split from laughter.
 
2011-02-18 06:25:03 PM  

ChaoticLimbs: Fine. However, the marriage penalty remains:

The penalty for polygamy is having multiple wives

mothers-in-law.
 
2011-02-18 06:25:58 PM  

rodeofrog: logruszed: I really don't think they were ever REQUIRED to practice it, and I'm pretty sure the only reason they stopped was to ensure that when they became a state they could maintain some control over the legislature of Utah.

They were commanded to practice it. There was an angel with a flaming sword and all.

The circumstances surrounding the discontinuation of polygamy by mainstream mormons are the subject of some controversy.


That was then. This is now. A living church allows for change.

I would've thought you would get that.
 
2011-02-18 06:29:27 PM  

hairywoogit: I do, however, believe very much in equal protection for all religions, or lack thereof, including those religions or philosophies which include the practice of polygamy.


Here's my problem with polygamy and why I think it is completely unworthy of comparison to the same-sex marriage issue - how many "consenting adults" do you see fighting for their right to a legal polygamous marriage?

You don't - all kidding aside, it's always dirty old men who want the right to marry multiple underage girls.

When adult women in large numbers march on the Capitol to demand their right to share a husband with multiple wives, I'll happily listen to their argument.
 
2011-02-18 06:31:07 PM  

Kinek: That was then. This is now. A living church allows for change.

I would've thought you would get that.


I get a lot of things. That's why I, as a living man, changed my membership status.
 
2011-02-18 06:31:57 PM  

Shenanigans!: hairywoogit: I do, however, believe very much in equal protection for all religions, or lack thereof, including those religions or philosophies which include the practice of polygamy.

Here's my problem with polygamy and why I think it is completely unworthy of comparison to the same-sex marriage issue - how many "consenting adults" do you see fighting for their right to a legal polygamous marriage?

You don't - all kidding aside, it's always dirty old men who want the right to marry multiple underage girls.

When adult women in large numbers march on the Capitol to demand their right to share a husband with multiple wives, I'll happily listen to their argument.


So if a minority is small enough, you're willing to stomp all over it?
 
2011-02-18 06:32:48 PM  

rodeofrog: Kinek: That was then. This is now. A living church allows for change.

I would've thought you would get that.

I get a lot of things. That's why I, as a living man, changed my membership status.


Good for you! It's best to live honestly.
 
2011-02-18 06:36:07 PM  

Kinek: So if a minority is small enough, you're willing to stomp all over it?


What minority? Where are these women who want this right? I'm aware of exactly 0 women who want this for themselves. You can't stomp on em if you can't find em.
 
2011-02-18 06:38:19 PM  

Shenanigans!: You don't - all kidding aside, it's always dirty old men who want the right to marry multiple underage girls.

When adult women in large numbers march on the Capitol to demand their right to share a husband with multiple wives, I'll happily listen to their argument.


The plural of anecdote is not evidence. Argument by incredulity noted. It is not acceptable to legislate one particular mythologies' morality into law. There's a reason most nutjobs don't want to mix religion and government.
 
2011-02-18 06:38:27 PM  

Mensan: I'll take the one on the right. My humanitarian service for Kazakhstan.

Regarding polygamy, I don't understand the strong opposition. Especially from people willing to tolerate marital infidelity.


Would YOU want to deal with THREE nagging wives? I can barely handle one, and she doesn't even nag that much.
 
2011-02-18 06:42:47 PM  

Shenanigans!: Kinek: So if a minority is small enough, you're willing to stomp all over it?

What minority? Where are these women who want this right? I'm aware of exactly 0 women who want this for themselves. You can't stomp on em if you can't find em.


A minority of 0 is still a minority.

/Got nothing. You're just ridiculous.
 
2011-02-18 06:43:50 PM  

Shenanigans!: hairywoogit: I do, however, believe very much in equal protection for all religions, or lack thereof, including those religions or philosophies which include the practice of polygamy.

Here's my problem with polygamy and why I think it is completely unworthy of comparison to the same-sex marriage issue - how many "consenting adults" do you see fighting for their right to a legal polygamous marriage?

You don't - all kidding aside, it's always dirty old men who want the right to marry multiple underage girls.

When adult women in large numbers march on the Capitol to demand their right to share a husband with multiple wives, I'll happily listen to their argument.


Actually, I know several women who cannot provide everything their husbands need. I'm being broad here, but intend to include conversation, sex, and physical activities among others. These women would be ok if their husbands went out to "get what they need" from someone else. To be honest, that's one of the reasons people have friends. They get something from it.

So let's say that a man wants to go out and go white water rafting, but his wife is deathly afraid of drowning. Is it a bad thing for him to find someone else, perhaps a woman in this case, to go rafting with? (Especially if the women become friends as well) What about emotional needs? That's as deep as it gets, isn't it? If the wife is ok with it and obivously the other two are as well, what does it hurt? Is it really such a stretch to take it that one step further when the women connect on some level, too?

You're in a relationsip whether you like it or not. All three of you. (Or four if you're really lucky.) So what difference is there really whether there's a ring or not?

The important thing is that all people have to have a connection or the relationship cannot work. If just the man and the other woman get along, he's really just afraid to ask for a divorce in the first place. If just the two women get along, they're just hanging out anyway, so what's the difference?

/Why yes, I am a dirty "old" man. How did you know?
//Just turned 33. That's old, right?
 
2011-02-18 06:50:05 PM  

Raven Darke: Chair5768: The republicans warned us this would happen... first the gays, now polygamy, next it'll be the beastiality and then the leftists GOP will come for your children chickens.

FTFY


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