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2011-02-16 12:04:39 AM  
Or maybe you shouldn't have been using Lou Gehrig's coffee cup without asking first.

"Today, I am the luckiest man in the world!"

No, winning $100 million in the lottery is "lucky".
You however, are dying of a horrible, wasting disease.
 
2011-02-16 12:40:32 AM  
No. Who's on first.
 
2011-02-16 12:40:57 AM  
Headline of the year material here.
 
2011-02-16 12:41:50 AM  
I got to third base once, then my sister woke up.
 
2011-02-16 12:43:59 AM  
Watching a loved one die from ALS right now. It's a horrible disease. I would think Mr. Gehrig wouldn't have been so keen to put his name on it had he known.
 
2011-02-16 12:48:03 AM  

Regnad Kcin: No. Who's on first.


No. Debilitating paralysis and gradual loss of motor functions is on first.
 
2011-02-16 12:49:58 AM  

Do the needful: Watching a loved one die from ALS right now. It's a horrible disease. I would think Mr. Gehrig wouldn't have been so keen to put his name on it had he known.


my girlfriend's grandfather died of it hours before thanksgiving last year.

it was a tough thing to watch. by the end he couldn't swallow anymore.
 
2011-02-16 12:58:45 AM  

Snarcoleptic_Hoosier: Regnad Kcin: No. Who's on first.

No. Debilitating paralysis and gradual loss of motor functions is on first.


I don't know.
 
2011-02-16 12:59:12 AM  
Sounds like a fairly weak link. Might be more about poor lifestyle choices in general leading to early onset with people that generally would have died from other natural causes before it developed.
 
2011-02-16 01:01:07 AM  
"I may have Lou Gehrig's disease, but at least I don't have..."

**Starts flapping arms around wildly**
 
2011-02-16 01:01:36 AM  

Bergyd: my girlfriend's grandfather died of it hours before thanksgiving last year.

it was a tough thing to watch. by the end he couldn't swallow anymore.


We are almost to that point. There's a suction machine to assist when he chokes. There's a breathing machine for the morning, and another machine for the afternoon lung exercise, and a machine to assist breathing at night. Not even mentioning the gradual paralysis. I am sure these next few months if it even lasts that long are not going to be pleasant.

Note: I wasn't trying to downplay other diseases, I am sure they are all horrible. Just some more than others.
 
2011-02-16 01:06:50 AM  

Harry_Seldon: I got to third base once, then my sister woke up.


Maybe the foundation was shaking
 
2011-02-16 01:09:10 AM  

Harry_Seldon: I got to third base once, then my sister woke up.


I've gone 'round the world a few times now, because there's no better teacher than mom.
 
2011-02-16 01:10:53 AM  

baronvonzipper: Harry_Seldon: I got to third base once, then my sister woke up.

Maybe the foundation was shaking


Nah, it's just a bit much for a six year old girl to go through.
Can you imagine the trauma when she woke up and realized it wasn't her father?
 
2011-02-16 01:13:08 AM  
In addition, current smokers had a 42 percent increased risk of developing the disease and former smokers had a 44 percent increased risk, the study says.

Sounds like you're better off not quitting..
 
2011-02-16 01:17:27 AM  

TommyymmoT: baronvonzipper: Harry_Seldon: I got to third base once, then my sister woke up.

Maybe the foundation was shaking

Nah, it's just a bit much for a six year old girl to go through.
Can you imagine the trauma when she woke up and realized it wasn't her father?


Dammit- vodka out my nose!
 
2011-02-16 01:20:10 AM  
www.aceshowbiz.com

God love Lou Gehrig. Jesus Christ, poor Lou Gehrig. Died of Lou Gehrig's disease. How the hell did he not see that coming? You know. We used to tell him, Lou, there's a disease with your name all over it, pal!
 
2011-02-16 01:26:59 AM  

dictyboy: In addition, current smokers had a 42 percent increased risk of developing the disease and former smokers had a 44 percent increased risk, the study says.

Sounds like you're better off not quitting..


Most likely because current smokers die of other things.
 
2011-02-16 01:47:25 AM  
More New York Yankees need to die of diseases named after them. I can see it now... C.C. Sabathia Disease. It occurs when your lungs fill up with butter or vegetable shortening as a result of Old Country Buffet Syndrome.
 
2011-02-16 01:52:48 AM  
Fano: dictyboy: In addition, current smokers had a 42 percent increased risk of developing the disease and former smokers had a 44 percent increased risk, the study says.

Sounds like you're better off not quitting..

Most likely because current smokers die of other things.


Newsflash: Everybody dies of something.
 
2011-02-16 02:12:52 AM  
I believe you catch the disease in college.

/the_scout
 
2011-02-16 02:26:54 AM  
I thought every bad illness was linked to smoking now. Soon it will be eggs that kills everybody. Or gummy worms...
 
2011-02-16 02:29:27 AM  

dictyboy: In addition, current smokers had a 42 percent increased risk of developing the disease and former smokers had a 44 percent increased risk, the study says.

Sounds like you're better off not quitting..


Hehe, nice.

/I am thinking they don't know any more about ALS now than they did then.
 
2011-02-16 02:30:08 AM  

Fano: dictyboy: In addition, current smokers had a 42 percent increased risk of developing the disease and former smokers had a 44 percent increased risk, the study says.

Sounds like you're better off not quitting..

Most likely because current smokers die of other things.


Everybody dies of things...
 
2011-02-16 03:31:53 AM  
ALS is the very last disease in the world I would want. I worked in health care for a few years and met a 30 year old with end stage ALS (very rare for his age), he had a normal adult head on what looked like a child's body. He couldn't move or talk and was on a vent. But his eyes were crystal clear and you could tell that mentally he was 100%, they looked sad and angry and bitter.

The first time I made eye contact with him was one of the most intense moments of my life. He passed to me so much information without saying a word or moving a muscle.

If I ever get the disease, I'll live life to the fullest for the first couple years. Then when my motor control starts to fail, write a nice letter to my loved ones and put a gun in my mouth. No loving God could judge a person for that.

To anyone who has lost someone to ALS: Respect the bravery of that person. That disease is worse than death. Realize that whatever comes after this life is better than living with ALS.
 
2011-02-16 04:23:20 AM  
Wow, that really makes you wonder, would Lou Gehrig have one day contracted Lou Gehrig's disease if he hadn't died of CTEM first?

Link (new window)
 
2011-02-16 04:34:25 AM  
Say, must ask (since the stupid article's everywhere).... did Lou Gehrig smoke? If so, citation?
 
2011-02-16 05:38:31 AM  
Mom died from it back in 2003. It is such a missed bag of emotions. Knowing my mother was going to die is horrible, but at least I was able to prepare and make the best of the time I had with her. However, it was horrible watching her decline. The alternative is to have someone die randomly and not know the last time you may see them again.

I wouldn't wish ALS on anyone. It is a horrible way to go. I witnessed my mom's last breath. I'll never get that vision out of my head. For all of those on here with friends and family suffering through this, my thoughts are with you.
 
2011-02-16 07:01:43 AM  
Is there ANYTHING tobacco can't do??
 
2011-02-16 07:34:12 AM  
KOOLERTHANJESUS:

"I wouldn't wish ALS on anyone. It is a horrible way to go. I witnessed my mom's last breath. I'll never get that vision out of my head. For all of those on here with friends and family suffering through this, my thoughts are with you."

THIS. Lost my Dad to it, saw his last breath as well. Watched him waste away and be fed through a j-tube in his intestines, and have to communicate with a computer device. Very difficult disease.
The doctors said they wished they could have told him he had Cancer rather than ALS.
 
2011-02-16 07:51:35 AM  
Huh, my mother in law never smoked a day in her life....
 
2011-02-16 07:58:18 AM  
My brother died of ALS. He started smoking when he was 16 or so and smoked until he could literally not hold the cigarette to his mouth any longer. Took him nine years to die, soaking up most of my parent's savings and all of my mother's will to live. She died a few months after him.

If I ever get a diagnosis like that, I'll take my savings out of the bank and spend a few months doing hookers and blow. Then I'll put a pistol in my mouth.

/the smell of bedsores is something you never forget
//or the gurgling sound of someone drowning in their own snot
 
2011-02-16 07:59:46 AM  
My dad died with ALS ... never smoked, had a drink or two per week (good single malt on Friday nights), jogged 3 miles a day, healthy as can be. Started having muscle twitches that couldn't be explained, died 3 years later.
 
2011-02-16 08:07:59 AM  
Anti-Smoking Health Nazi: Ok, I need some more stats on smokers versus nonsmokers and how they died and stuff!

Researcher: Hmm, well I have some data here that shows that more smokers died from diabetes last year than non-smokers?

ASHN: Excellent. Smoking causes diabetes, get that to the media pronto!

Researcher: Ummm.. correlation/causation and all that?

ASHN: Bah! Is Big Tobacco paying you off or something? Smoking is BAD, mmmkay?
 
2011-02-16 08:27:22 AM  

i.r.id10t: My dad died with ALS ... never smoked, had a drink or two per week (good single malt on Friday nights), jogged 3 miles a day, healthy as can be. Started having muscle twitches that couldn't be explained, died 3 years later.


That's the problem with it. They don't know what causes it. My dad died of it in 2004. He smoked, drank, and had two helicopters shot out from under him in Vietnam. He also had a cousin who died of ALS too so it could have been in his genes, could have been the smoking, it could have been the impact of the Hueys hitting the ground, or it could have been his exposure to toxins while he was in the army. I just hope one day they figure out something that can pinpoint what causes it.
 
2011-02-16 08:28:36 AM  
It has to be me? Fine:
The real reason?
images.wikia.com
'Excellent. As soon as I release this biological toxin into the world's water supply, I will rule the world. I'll call it Lou Gehrig's disease. I just have to remember to make sure this cap is screwed on tight...'
/hot like Meg's voice actor
 
2011-02-16 08:28:46 AM  

jenlen: ASHN: Excellent. Smoking causes diabetes, get that to the media pronto!


Local TV news: Cigarettes cause bad breath and smelly clothes, but could they give you diabetes, too? With all the evidence about smoking's dangers, why do people still smoke? The answer might shock you. Tonight at 5, after Doctor Oz.
 
2011-02-16 08:30:53 AM  
I have a friend who is living with ALS and I have been involved with an ALS society. What I have noticed is that the people I have met who are living with the disease are typically high achieving type "A" personalities. Maybe I have met them because they are the type of people to haul themselves to meetings in spite of ALS. Who is to say.

Also, as Jaharley pointed out above, there is now some question whether Lou Gehrig died of Lou Gehrig's disease.
 
2011-02-16 08:41:13 AM  

Do the needful: Watching a loved one die from ALS right now. It's a horrible disease. I would think Mr. Gehrig wouldn't have been so keen to put his name on it had he known.


I'm really sorry for you.
It's hard. My mom passed away in October of 2009.
She had lost the ability to talk about a year before that.
 
2011-02-16 09:02:18 AM  
I'd rather have the good Hodgkin's.
 
2011-02-16 09:04:53 AM  
A friend of mine died last Thursday of ALS. It's a living hell for for the victim and torture for the family.
 
2011-02-16 09:09:42 AM  
My husband died of it. A girl from my graduating class's husband has it. So, if we use the numbers game this way you have a 1 in 200 chance of getting it if you married someone who graduated from South Meck in 1989.

Random data is random if you think of how much of the former population smoked.


rattchett: I have a friend who is living with ALS and I have been involved with an ALS society. What I have noticed is that the people I have met who are living with the disease are typically high achieving type "A" personalities. Maybe I have met them because they are the type of people to haul themselves to meetings in spite of ALS. Who is to say.

Also, as Jaharley pointed out above, there is now some question whether Lou Gehrig died of Lou Gehrig's disease.



Type A is a link.

Also Military has 65% greater chance.

Also people who work in agriculture.

And that whole "Lou Gherig probably didn't have it" thing pisses me off because who's to say that concussions don't have a role in? They have NO CLUE. These people just want to be published.
 
2011-02-16 09:12:21 AM  
Living hell would be having ALS and Alzheimer's at the same time. Having both body and mind falling apart simultaneously.
 
2011-02-16 09:12:21 AM  
Bottom line, as the doctors told us...

it is a genetic predisposition mixed with an environmental factor.
 
2011-02-16 09:14:56 AM  

TappingTheVein: Living hell would be having ALS and Alzheimer's at the same time. Having both body and mind falling apart simultaneously.




No, I totally disagree. Not knowing what was happening would have helped my 45 year old husband out more than you'll ever know. Watching his 3 & 5 year old and young wife go through it hurt worse than the disease did.
 
2011-02-16 09:18:25 AM  

Do the needful: Bergyd: my girlfriend's grandfather died of it hours before thanksgiving last year.

it was a tough thing to watch. by the end he couldn't swallow anymore.

We are almost to that point. There's a suction machine to assist when he chokes. There's a breathing machine for the morning, and another machine for the afternoon lung exercise, and a machine to assist breathing at night. Not even mentioning the gradual paralysis. I am sure these next few months if it even lasts that long are not going to be pleasant.

Note: I wasn't trying to downplay other diseases, I am sure they are all horrible. Just some more than others.



The lung exercise one - the "cough assist". DUDE he hated that thing. He never wore the CPAP - said it was like living with his face out a car window going 150 mph.

If you need to talk out the last few months EIP. What I thought were the last few months were the last two years.
 
2011-02-16 09:53:29 AM  
Steven Hawking - a 50-a-day man!

And that was just the number of BJ's he was getting from his hired help!
 
2011-02-16 10:15:41 AM  
I was being sarcastic. I have a disease so rare, they named it after me. Lucky me! Eh, you people are hopeless!
 
2011-02-16 10:25:59 AM  

TappingTheVein: Living hell would be having ALS and Alzheimer's at the same time. Having both body and mind falling apart simultaneously.


Creutzfeldt-Jakob and Huntington's are there for you...

/shudder
//that's when you really need Drs. Smith and Wesson on speed dial
 
2011-02-16 10:45:25 AM  

TappingTheVein: Living hell would be having ALS and Alzheimer's at the same time. Having both body and mind falling apart simultaneously.


If my MIL had Alzheimer's it would have helped quite a bit actually. This disease just sucks.
 
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