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(Captains Journal)   The pirates are winning in the Gulf of Adan because the Obama Administration rules of engagement don't let our troops kill them, use ninjas   (captainsjournal.com) divider line 204
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2011-02-15 09:34:30 AM  
There is literally nothing in this world that can't be solved by overwhelming firepower.

And ninjas.
 
2011-02-15 09:36:29 AM  
While in the Persian Gulf, they also had an Iranian helicopter virtually land on board the deck of the USS Iwo Jima with Iranian gunners laughing at the Marines, and the U.S. Navy ordering the Marines NOT to engage for fear of creating an "international incident" (how's that for "rules of engagement"?)


If I can't kill someone for laughing at me, I don't want to kill anyone anymore.
 
2011-02-15 09:40:57 AM  

Oh. dear. It goes on.

I have previously recommended something like the following concerning pirates:


I really don't think I need to quote any further to impart the flavor of his commentary.
 
2011-02-15 09:52:38 AM  
yet obama is the only president to authorize the killing of pirates. go figure

//ok jefferson killed a few, but no recent presidents
 
2011-02-15 10:04:23 AM  
I can think of at least 3 pirates who could present a fairly strong argument to the contrary if they weren't resting at the bottom of the ocean.
 
2011-02-15 10:05:22 AM  

bongmiester: yet obama is the only president to authorize the killing of pirates. go figure

//ok jefferson killed a few, but no recent presidents


Exactly. He hasn't allowed our military to kill pirates... except for that one time. But, that doesn't count because SOCIALISM!
 
2011-02-15 10:05:25 AM  
oh wait, guys is involves Muslims extremists, now I know you want to take action!!
 
2011-02-15 10:06:25 AM  

bongmiester: yet obama is the only president to authorize the killing of pirates. go figure

//ok jefferson killed a few, but no recent presidents


ok and may clinton and his cruise missiles in Sudan
 
2011-02-15 10:06:31 AM  

bongmiester: yet obama is the only president to authorize the killing of pirates. go figure

//ok jefferson killed a few, but no recent presidents


s-ak.buzzfed.com
 
2011-02-15 10:07:11 AM  
But he did allow pirates to be killed. The right responded by pretending to be sad that young black men were killed. That was fun.
 
2011-02-15 10:07:29 AM  
What cracks me up is that when he did authorize killing pirates the Reps got all huffy about it. Something about "oh, those poor pirates and NOW what are they going to do when they attack our boats?"

It's freaking weird.
 
2011-02-15 10:08:14 AM  
Ninjas are useless against pirates on their own turf - ninjas can't swim. Pretty much every video game where you play a ninja, falling into the water spells instant death. It's like they all wear 45 lb. lead ankle-weights or something.
 
2011-02-15 10:08:29 AM  

HotWingConspiracy: But he did allow pirates to be killed. The right responded by pretending to be sad that young black men were killed. That was fun.


Shut up, you.
 
2011-02-15 10:10:49 AM  
Read the International Laws on piracy. Why the dimbulbs simply don't convoy the ships is beyond comprehension. Oh Wait. Its the US Navy - all it can do is sink Japanese fishing boats.
 
2011-02-15 10:11:43 AM  

Skleenar: While in the Persian Gulf, they also had an Iranian helicopter virtually land on board the deck of the USS Iwo Jima with Iranian gunners laughing at the Marines, and the U.S. Navy ordering the Marines NOT to engage for fear of creating an "international incident" (how's that for "rules of engagement"?)


If I can't kill someone for laughing at me, I don't want to kill anyone anymore.


Actually, I am sorta curious about this. 1) Did it really happen as the author suggests? 2) What are the rules for such things? Is it that foreign aircraft can "buzz" ships in international waters, as in fly close but not overfly, or do ships "own" the airspace above them?

Oh, and also... from TFA: "I have previously recommended something like the following concerning pirates: tell the lawyers to go home, find the pirates, line them up on the deck of the ship, and shoot each and every one of them. Dump their bodies into the sea, and videotape the entire event. Post the video to YouTube as a warning to future pirates. Thus, an end to piracy."

OK, so... who is this guy, just another ITG?

http://www.captainsjournal.com/about/

"The "Captain" is [redacted], who hails from [someplace], and who is not a member of the armed forces, but who is "Captain" of this web log. However, he does have a son who is a United States Marine, and has earned the combat action ribbon in support of Operation Alljah in Fallujah."

So, this guy is claiming his son's probably well-deserved medal and service as a Marine as part of his bio and thus part of his street cred? While I am not sure where ITG crosses over to Land of Douche Baggery, I am pretty sure this guy made that leap years back
 
2011-02-15 10:12:05 AM  
What part of America is the Gulf of Adan in again?
 
2011-02-15 10:13:30 AM  

LouDobbsAwaaaay: Ninjas are useless against pirates on their own turf - ninjas can't swim. Pretty much every video game where you play a ninja, falling into the water spells instant death. It's like they all wear 45 lb. lead ankle-weights or something.


All asian people can walk on water.

opensourcejokes.com
 
2011-02-15 10:16:13 AM  

dinch: What cracks me up is that when he did authorize killing pirates the Reps got all huffy about it. Something about "oh, those poor pirates and NOW what are they going to do when they attack our boats?"

It's freaking weird.


I don't know, I just reread several conservatives opinions on the matter, and in general they were of the tone. "Why did it take Obama so long."
 
2011-02-15 10:16:19 AM  
Btw its the gulf of adEn you doofus. No doubt another idiot who confuses Austria with Australia
 
2011-02-15 10:16:23 AM  
Question: How many US ships have been taken by pirates? It seems that you hear about other nation's ships, but few US ships.

Also, far the retard's article.

I have previously recommended something like the following concerning pirates: tell the lawyers to go home, find the pirates, line them up on the deck of the ship, and shoot each and every one of them. Dump their bodies into the sea, and videotape the entire event. Post the video to YouTube as a warning to future pirates. Thus, an end to piracy.

Of course, this seems brutal and uncivilized to many. Indeed it is. But value judgments have a way of being nuanced, difficult things that eventually turn on you and create unintended consequences. My recommendation is brutal, but consider the alternatives.


Huh, that strategy sounds so familiar. Wonder where he got the idea....

wizbangblog.com

Oh yes, the Nick Berg strategy. How did that work out for terrorists?
 
2011-02-15 10:16:25 AM  

bongmiester: yet obama is the only president to authorize the killing of pirates.


One of his finer moments.
 
2011-02-15 10:18:23 AM  

MindStalker: I don't know, I just reread several conservatives opinions on the matter, and in general they were of the tone. "Why did it take Obama so long."


Yeah, that too. Nevermind that they had a hostage.
 
2011-02-15 10:18:46 AM  
It's Aden.

/aidan, caden, jaden, braden, aydan
//where did the fascination come from for bestowing variations of this name on children?
 
2011-02-15 10:20:24 AM  

dinch: MindStalker: I don't know, I just reread several conservatives opinions on the matter, and in general they were of the tone. "Why did it take Obama so long."

Yeah, that too. Nevermind that they had a hostage.


What you think conservatives give a shiat about anyone but themselves?
 
2011-02-15 10:21:01 AM  
In Response to SOF and Piracy I linked Andrew Exum's disagreement with me over the proper response to piracy. Exum advocated the use of SEALs, and I advocated the use of large quantities of U.S. Marines in a long term presence. When the Maersk Alabama was retaken by the U.S., it was with SEAL teams. Andrew did a victory dance, and his commenters lambasted my views at Abu Muqawama. One commenter made the observation that while I addressed a larger issue than just this situation, this situation was indeed unique in that there were hostages - as if the problem of piracy and ransom payments isn't comprised by the aggregate of multiple hostage situations.

Sadly, this issue is tearing apart the conservative-centric freight-, cargo-, and shipping-specific blogodome. I hope they can find an amiable solution. I'd hate to lose such a vital part of our national conversation about right-wing boating vis-à-vis high sea hostage scenario revenge fantasies.
 
2011-02-15 10:22:59 AM  
Dump their bodies into the sea, and videotape the entire event. Post the video to YouTube as a warning to future pirates. Thus, an end to piracy.

Damn! Somali pirates can get youtube now?
 
2011-02-15 10:23:58 AM  
It is my belief that the only logical step before us is to create a a cross-discipline pirate/ninja training program in order to combat the pirate threat with Ninjas... who are also pirates.

And should that plan fail, the trustworthy alternative of nuking the entire region should be enacted.
 
2011-02-15 10:24:39 AM  
Ninjas can hope, at best, to die moments before the pirate they sneak attacked dies of blood loss after the pirate they attacked turns around and runs 'em through. You cannot insta-kill a pirate.

Evidence: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blackbeard#Last_battle

So, ninjas are not the solution for pirate problems. Pirates are, however, the solution for ninja problems.
 
2011-02-15 10:24:50 AM  
That there is some full on ITG.
 
2011-02-15 10:25:55 AM  
Arr, Imma no good scurvy scalawag, I didn't hyperlink.

Blackbeard (new window)
 
2011-02-15 10:28:05 AM  

Headso: Dump their bodies into the sea, and videotape the entire event. Post the video to YouTube as a warning to future pirates. Thus, an end to piracy.

Damn! Somali pirates can get youtube now?


And they live in a country free of government involvement so they don't have restricted Internet speeds like they almost had in Canada. So they get to watch the HD videos with minimal buffering.
 
2011-02-15 10:29:05 AM  
1. Obama does or says something.
2. GOP claims that he should have done or said the opposite.
3. Profit!
4. Repeat as necessary.

It's obvious, it's petty, and it's tiresome.
 
2011-02-15 10:30:18 AM  

dinch: What cracks me up is that when he did authorize killing pirates the Reps got all huffy about it. Something about "oh, those poor pirates and NOW what are they going to do when they attack our boats?"

It's freaking weird.


It's not that I don't believe you, but [Citation Needed].

As an active Republican, I've heard some fantastically stupid things, but never that, and I've been pretty closely following Somali issues for a few years. I'd just like to know who we need to push out of the lifeboat for saying it.
 
2011-02-15 10:31:19 AM  
Is the Gulf of Adan one of the spring training leagues?

Nice to see the Bucs make a comeback.
 
2011-02-15 10:31:28 AM  
My recommendation is brutal, but consider the alternatives.


That you shut the fark up and drop your deeply disturbing fake ship captain anti-pirate warrior internet persona?
 
2011-02-15 10:31:37 AM  
i.imgur.com
 
2011-02-15 10:31:55 AM  

tforbes: It is my belief that the only logical step before us is to create a a cross-discipline pirate/ninja training program in order to combat the pirate threat with Ninjas... who are also pirates.

And should that plan fail, the trustworthy alternative of nuking the entire region should be enacted.


Someone say Pirate/Ninja? (new window)
 
2011-02-15 10:33:12 AM  

freewill: dinch: What cracks me up is that when he did authorize killing pirates the Reps got all huffy about it. Something about "oh, those poor pirates and NOW what are they going to do when they attack our boats?"

It's freaking weird.

It's not that I don't believe you, but [Citation Needed].

As an active Republican, I've heard some fantastically stupid things, but never that, and I've been pretty closely following Somali issues for a few years. I'd just like to know who we need to push out of the lifeboat for saying it.


I don't have a citation, but I do seem to recall Rush (that paragon of reasonability) saying that Obama has the blood of children on his hands or something equally as dumb.
 
2011-02-15 10:33:22 AM  

freewill: dinch: What cracks me up is that when he did authorize killing pirates the Reps got all huffy about it. Something about "oh, those poor pirates and NOW what are they going to do when they attack our boats?"

It's freaking weird.

It's not that I don't believe you, but [Citation Needed].

As an active Republican, I've heard some fantastically stupid things, but never that, and I've been pretty closely following Somali issues for a few years. I'd just like to know who we need to push out of the lifeboat for saying it.


I'm calling bullshiat as well. The only complaint from the right was that they weren't shot sooner.
 
2011-02-15 10:33:26 AM  
I don't see why we don't go back to issuing Letters of Marque. I'm sure all these ITGs must be raring to take these pirates on.
 
2011-02-15 10:36:03 AM  

LasersHurt: freewill: dinch: What cracks me up is that when he did authorize killing pirates the Reps got all huffy about it. Something about "oh, those poor pirates and NOW what are they going to do when they attack our boats?"

It's freaking weird.

It's not that I don't believe you, but [Citation Needed].

As an active Republican, I've heard some fantastically stupid things, but never that, and I've been pretty closely following Somali issues for a few years. I'd just like to know who we need to push out of the lifeboat for saying it.

I don't have a citation, but I do seem to recall Rush (that paragon of reasonability) saying that Obama has the blood of children on his hands or something equally as dumb.


Remember, Lasers, Republicans' selective hearing is legendary.

Here ya go, 'Pubbies, though I doubt you'll click it due to afforementioned legendary selective hearing. (new window)
 
2011-02-15 10:38:53 AM  

MadCat221: Here ya go, 'Pubbies, though I doubt you'll click it due to afforementioned legendary selective hearing. (new window)


The best is how they blamed Obama for the pirate attack while screeching about his decisive reaction.
 
2011-02-15 10:39:27 AM  

Jackpot777: bongmiester: yet obama is the only president to authorize the killing of pirates. go figure

//ok jefferson killed a few, but no recent presidents


The best part of that graph is that it goes up in increments of point five.
 
2011-02-15 10:39:41 AM  

wolvernova: freewill: dinch: What cracks me up is that when he did authorize killing pirates the Reps got all huffy about it. Something about "oh, those poor pirates and NOW what are they going to do when they attack our boats?"

It's freaking weird.

It's not that I don't believe you, but [Citation Needed].

As an active Republican, I've heard some fantastically stupid things, but never that, and I've been pretty closely following Somali issues for a few years. I'd just like to know who we need to push out of the lifeboat for saying it.

I'm calling bullshiat as well. The only complaint from the right was that they weren't shot sooner.


A cursory googling (new window) turned up Free Republic. Which isn't especially shocking.

But Rush absolutely said (new window) this shiat.

"They were kids. The story is out, I don't know if it's true or not, but apparently the hijackers, these kids, the merchant marine organizers, Muslim kids, were upset, they wanted to just give the captain back and head home because they were running out of food, they were running out of fuel, they were surrounded by all these US Navy ships, big ships, and they just wanted out of there. That's the story, but then when one of them put a gun to the back of the captain, Mr. Phillips, then bam, bam, bam. There you have it, and three teenagers shot on the high seas at the order of President Obama."

It's petty on a slew of levels.

/I happen to think he was "making a point" about hypocrisy or something?
//Not that he'd understand it.
 
2011-02-15 10:39:51 AM  

wolvernova: freewill: dinch: What cracks me up is that when he did authorize killing pirates the Reps got all huffy about it. Something about "oh, those poor pirates and NOW what are they going to do when they attack our boats?"

It's freaking weird.

It's not that I don't believe you, but [Citation Needed].

As an active Republican, I've heard some fantastically stupid things, but never that, and I've been pretty closely following Somali issues for a few years. I'd just like to know who we need to push out of the lifeboat for saying it.

I'm calling bullshiat as well. The only complaint from the right was that they weren't shot sooner.


LasersHurt: I don't have a citation, but I do seem to recall Rush (that paragon of reasonability) saying that Obama has the blood of children on his hands or something equally as dumb.


Here you go.
 
2011-02-15 10:40:31 AM  

MadCat221: Remember, Lasers, Republicans' selective hearing is legendary.

Here ya go, 'Pubbies, though I doubt you'll click it due to afforementioned legendary selective hearing. (new window)


I don't see Rush being critical of the decision to kill the pirates. He was just being ironic with the words he was using mimicing things said when the Bush administration would take out suspected terrorist sites.
 
2011-02-15 10:40:53 AM  

wolvernova: freewill: dinch: What cracks me up is that when he did authorize killing pirates the Reps got all huffy about it. Something about "oh, those poor pirates and NOW what are they going to do when they attack our boats?"

It's freaking weird.

It's not that I don't believe you, but [Citation Needed].

As an active Republican, I've heard some fantastically stupid things, but never that, and I've been pretty closely following Somali issues for a few years. I'd just like to know who we need to push out of the lifeboat for saying it.

I'm calling bullshiat as well. The only complaint from the right was that they weren't shot sooner.


Sorta, that and some R's saying the D's would have been up in arms had GWB done as Obama did. Really it was just a strange sorta argument.

http://www.thebostonchannel.com/r/19273935/detail.html

"There you have it, three teenagers shot on the high seas at the order of President Obama," said Limbaugh according to a transcript of an April 14 broadcast on his Web site.
"Just imagine the hue and cry had a Republican president ordered the shooting of black teenagers on the high seas," Limbaugh said.
 
2011-02-15 10:40:53 AM  
I wonder what this blogger would do if he was at a restaurant and some pirate ship busted through the doors and took a really attractive woman hostage. I bet he'd beat them all up with martial arts and then dangle one of them over a mountain ledge and say "Remember when I promised to kill you last...I LIED." And then the woman would have sex with him and they'd get married.
 
2011-02-15 10:42:25 AM  

sigdiamond2000: I wonder what this blogger would do if he was at a restaurant and some pirate ship busted through the doors and took a really attractive woman hostage. I bet he'd beat them all up with martial arts and then dangle one of them over a mountain ledge and say "Remember when I promised to kill you last...I LIED." And then the woman would have sex with him and they'd get married.


Don't forget the slow clap from the rest of the patrons.
 
2011-02-15 10:42:55 AM  
I seem to be missing the part where its obama fault subby.
 
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