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(Forbes)   How juicy is the dirt that WikiLeaks has on Bank of America execs? Their law firm recommends "tracking and intimidating anyone who had given money to WikiLeaks". Bring it on biatches   (blogs.forbes.com) divider line 117
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2011-02-14 01:24:43 PM  
Heh, I donated to Wikileaks through my BofA checking account.
 
2011-02-14 01:40:13 PM  
It's too bad they are too busy with theatrics and coordinating negotiated press releases to actually release the information.
 
2011-02-14 01:53:47 PM  

make me some tea: Heh, I donated to Wikileaks through my BofA checking account.


www.eddieandlid.com
 
2011-02-14 01:58:18 PM  
anything that scares BoA this much is something I want to read.
 
2011-02-14 02:00:17 PM  
Oh, security firms, not law firm. Glad I RTFA before chiding a lawyer for being dumb enough to tell a client to engage in "intimidation." I mean, at least directly. In writing.
 
2011-02-14 02:01:44 PM  

Weaver95: anything that scares BoA this much is something I want to read.


Me too.

Nabb1: Oh, security firms, not law firm. Glad I RTFA before chiding a lawyer for being dumb enough to tell a client to engage in "intimidation." I mean, at least directly. In writing.


That was yesterdays article where BofA had hired law firms.
 
2011-02-14 02:03:05 PM  

Nabb1: Oh, security firms, not law firm. Glad I RTFA before chiding a lawyer for being dumb enough to tell a client to engage in "intimidation." I mean, at least directly. In writing.


That was my first thought.
 
2011-02-14 02:03:49 PM  
The rumors of BOA malfeasance have been going around for years on the various big (independent) finance/economics sites (new window):
 
2011-02-14 02:04:34 PM  
Holy crap, just release these things already!
 
2011-02-14 02:04:55 PM  
Why don't they just release the information already?
 
2011-02-14 02:07:07 PM  

m1ke: Why don't they just release the information already?


probably because they have to make them readable (format issues) and/or they want to make sure they don't accidentally release some poor bastards financial information. it'd suck if wikileaks let loose someones bank account data that got buried in the stack of files somewhere.
 
2011-02-14 02:08:56 PM  

JerseyTim: Holy crap, just release these things already!


m1ke: Why don't they just release the information already?


Never interrupt your enemy when they're farking up? Perhaps he's trying to force them into a "it's not the crime, but the coverup" situation.

/best guess
//or he's bluffing
 
2011-02-14 02:09:23 PM  
67.18.219.83
 
2011-02-14 02:10:59 PM  

m1ke: Why don't they just release the information already?


They're waiting until BofA has sufficiently shiat itself over the impending leak. It's like Batman scaring the every-loving shiat out of some goons before swooping in, even though he could just beat them up.
 
2011-02-14 02:11:49 PM  

Diogenes: JerseyTim: Holy crap, just release these things already!

m1ke: Why don't they just release the information already?

Never interrupt your enemy when they're farking up? Perhaps he's trying to force them into a "it's not the crime, but the coverup" situation.

/best guess
//or he's bluffing


If I had to guess, I'd say that wikileaks has been delayed due to corporate interference. plus they've gotta beat those files into some sort of readable shape, put them into some kind of order and make sure they don't f*ck over someone by accidentally dumping some customer's financial data onto the internet.
 
2011-02-14 02:17:47 PM  

Weaver95: If I had to guess, I'd say that wikileaks has been delayed due to corporate interference. plus they've gotta beat those files into some sort of readable shape, put them into some kind of order and make sure they don't f*ck over someone by accidentally dumping some customer's financial data onto the internet


I highly doubt Wikileaks would care if they were dumping customer's financial data onto the Internet. All information needs to be free and available to everyone in the world, right?
 
2011-02-14 02:21:01 PM  

downstairs: I highly doubt Wikileaks would care if they were dumping customer's financial data onto the Internet. All information needs to be free and available to everyone in the world, right?


I think you are confusing Wikileaks with Anonymous.
 
2011-02-14 02:25:21 PM  
Has it ever been confirmed BofA is the Wikileaks target?
 
2011-02-14 02:26:14 PM  

make me some tea: Heh, I donated to Wikileaks through my BofA checking account.


hehe
 
2011-02-14 02:26:44 PM  
m1ke
Why don't they just release the information already?

If you're good at something, never do it for free.
 
2011-02-14 02:29:38 PM  

downstairs: I highly doubt Wikileaks would care if they were dumping customer's financial data onto the Internet. All information needs to be free and available to everyone in the world, right?


Because Wikileaks has a history of releasing personal data, instead of high level communications.
 
2011-02-14 02:30:24 PM  

downpaymentblues: Has it ever been confirmed BofA is the Wikileaks target?


I think it's always been assumed, due to the corruption and size of BoA, and the fact that their reaction to this clearly means they have something to hide.
 
2011-02-14 02:31:31 PM  

friendinpa: m1ke
Why don't they just release the information already?

If you're good at something, never do it for free.


lets wind the clocks back a year - these hackers and peons wouldn't DARE cross any of you! what happened? did yer balls drop off?
 
2011-02-14 02:33:16 PM  
Pay no attention to the great and powerful Oz
 
2011-02-14 02:33:59 PM  

m1ke: Why don't they just release the information already?


My guess is that they'd prefer to dole out leaks over time and create the most possible press rather than dump everything on us at once and hope that the juicy nuggets don't get overlooked. Hell, they have, what? 150,000 diplomatic documents? They've released something like 3000 of them and look at the frenzy that's already been whipped up.
 
2011-02-14 02:37:10 PM  

Hender: m1ke: Why don't they just release the information already?

My guess is that they'd prefer to dole out leaks over time and create the most possible press rather than dump everything on us at once and hope that the juicy nuggets don't get overlooked. Hell, they have, what? 150,000 diplomatic documents? They've released something like 3000 of them and look at the frenzy that's already been whipped up.


oddly enough, the diplomatic documents aren't what got Assange attacked and arrested. it was threatening to release internal bank documents and tell everyone how things REALLY work behind the banking scenes that got him into trouble.
 
2011-02-14 02:40:00 PM  

Weaver95: Hender: m1ke: Why don't they just release the information already?

My guess is that they'd prefer to dole out leaks over time and create the most possible press rather than dump everything on us at once and hope that the juicy nuggets don't get overlooked. Hell, they have, what? 150,000 diplomatic documents? They've released something like 3000 of them and look at the frenzy that's already been whipped up.

oddly enough, the diplomatic documents aren't what got Assange attacked and arrested. it was threatening to release internal bank documents and tell everyone how things REALLY work behind the banking scenes that got him into trouble.


It wasn't threatening the banks that got him into trouble. His leaky wick got him arrested, not his Wikileaks.
 
2011-02-14 02:40:19 PM  
What I wanna know is when are we gonna get the dirt!

.
 
2011-02-14 02:51:53 PM  

make me some tea: Heh, I donated to Wikileaks through my BofA checking account.


I think you had better be prepared for some shenanigans with your account.
 
2011-02-14 02:57:59 PM  

downstairs: All information needs to be free and available to everyone in the world, right?


Personal data should be protected to the utmost, as it has nearly zero bearing on anything that anyone else needs to know.

Business and government data should be transparent, as it has a nearly-infinite bearing on everything we do, from buying consumer goods to the stock market to voting to impeachments to etc etc.

/yeah, i do love wikileaks
//hope it ultimately takes down every illegitimately-obtained speck of power in the world
///then we can start doing this whole 'earth' thing the right way
 
2011-02-14 03:01:50 PM  

gameshowhost: Business and government data should be transparent


No, not all of it. Trade secrets are a secret for a reason. As well, the private communication between executives or employees should remain private unless a formal lawsuit or investigation is launched. And even then it should remain in the confines of the investigators and maybe a jury.

And there's plenty of government information that you and I know should be secret. Its absurd to think you can run a nation while all of your information is open to the world.
 
2011-02-14 03:20:51 PM  

ongbok: make me some tea: Heh, I donated to Wikileaks through my BofA checking account.

I think you had better be prepared for some shenanigans with your account.


It's a good thing I have a really, really common name. Good luck with that!
 
2011-02-14 03:22:11 PM  

downstairs: And there's plenty of government information that you and I know should be secret. Its absurd to think you can run a nation while all of your information is open to the world.


THE NUKE LAUNCH CODE IS "1234" WRITE IT DOWN SOMEWHERE SO YOU DON'T FORGET
 
2011-02-14 03:26:05 PM  

DistendedPendulusFrenulum: What I wanna know is when are we gonna get the dirt!

.


As soon as someone ponies up the cash for Assange's legal defense fund.
 
2011-02-14 03:29:58 PM  

downstairs: gameshowhost: Business and government data should be transparent

No, not all of it. Trade secrets are a secret for a reason. As well, the private communication between executives or employees should remain private unless a formal lawsuit or investigation is launched. And even then it should remain in the confines of the investigators and maybe a jury.

And there's plenty of government information that you and I know should be secret. Its absurd to think you can run a nation while all of your information is open to the world.


I'm using "transparency" colloquially. I generally agree with your sentiments, to some extent (could argue over "how long should something be allowed to be a trade secret" or "don't we have a right to know where all of our defense budget goes"... stuff like that).

I couldn't disagree more re: "private communication between executives or employees should remain private unless a formal lawsuit or investigation is launched". That's a b.s. corporate personhood "right" shanghaied from the Constitution. Corporations were originally conceived (and executed) as transparent entities and they worked just fine for countless years in the complete absence of Bill of Rights protections; said protections serve no purpose to society except to conceal what should be publicly-available information, and that in turn serves as an incentive to pass externalities onto the rest of society... human nature in action.
 
2011-02-14 03:31:25 PM  
Aaron Barr, the HBGary chief executive who first caught the attention of Anonymous by boasting that he'd penetrated the group and identified its leaders

While I don't doubt for a second that the /b/tards are being played like a fiddle when it comes to hacking, I'm still not convinced they have a group of leaders. There's probably multiple groups of people who use them as their personal army when the y need it.
 
2011-02-14 03:32:47 PM  

Skleenar: downstairs: And there's plenty of government information that you and I know should be secret. Its absurd to think you can run a nation while all of your information is open to the world.

THE NUKE LAUNCH CODE IS "1234" WRITE IT DOWN SOMEWHERE SO YOU DON'T FORGET


Don't be silly. It's always "766253732426"

/ronaldreagan =P
 
2011-02-14 03:49:07 PM  

downpaymentblues: Has it ever been confirmed BofA is the Wikileaks target?


I think that this pretty much confirms it.
 
2011-02-14 04:01:20 PM  

make me some tea: Heh, I donated to Wikileaks through my BofA checking account.


Why do you have a BofA checking account? Don't you know they're evil!?
 
2011-02-14 04:08:26 PM  

gameshowhost: I couldn't disagree more re: "private communication between executives or employees should remain private unless a formal lawsuit or investigation is launched". That's a b.s. corporate personhood "right" shanghaied from the Constitution. Corporations were originally conceived (and executed) as transparent entities and they worked just fine for countless years in the complete absence of Bill of Rights protections; said protections serve no purpose to society except to conceal what should be publicly-available information, and that in turn serves as an incentive to pass externalities onto the rest of society... human nature in action


So the detailed, specific conversations between Steve Jobs and his employees and vendors while they were developing the iPhone (in secret) should have been open to the world?
 
2011-02-14 04:09:07 PM  

Skleenar: downstairs: And there's plenty of government information that you and I know should be secret. Its absurd to think you can run a nation while all of your information is open to the world.

THE NUKE LAUNCH CODE IS "1234" WRITE IT DOWN SOMEWHERE SO YOU DON'T FORGET


That's amazing! I've got the same combination on my luggage!
 
2011-02-14 04:22:39 PM  

Flab: That's amazing! I've got the same combination on my luggage!


Whatever you do, DON'T lock your roll on.

Trust me on this one.
 
2011-02-14 04:30:19 PM  

make me some tea: Heh, I donated to Wikileaks through my BofA checking account.


I'm sorry sir but we have no record of that account.

Sincerely,

BoFA
 
2011-02-14 04:30:43 PM  

mod3072: make me some tea: Heh, I donated to Wikileaks through my BofA checking account.

Why do you have a BofA checking account? Don't you know they're evil!?


The abundance of ATMs. No more, no less.
 
2011-02-14 04:54:22 PM  

Code_Archeologist: downpaymentblues: Has it ever been confirmed BofA is the Wikileaks target?

I think that this pretty much confirms it.


BofA has gone out of their way to look guilty as possible.
 
2011-02-14 05:25:16 PM  

downstairs: gameshowhost: I couldn't disagree more re: "private communication between executives or employees should remain private unless a formal lawsuit or investigation is launched". That's a b.s. corporate personhood "right" shanghaied from the Constitution. Corporations were originally conceived (and executed) as transparent entities and they worked just fine for countless years in the complete absence of Bill of Rights protections; said protections serve no purpose to society except to conceal what should be publicly-available information, and that in turn serves as an incentive to pass externalities onto the rest of society... human nature in action

So the detailed, specific conversations between Steve Jobs and his employees and vendors while they were developing the iPhone (in secret) should have been open to the world?


Of course not - that would fall under "trade secrets"... the idea of patenting, in general. Patent law predates the notion of corporate personhood rights by hundreds of years, not to mention the existence of our country.

Again - corporate personhood BoR protection is nothing more than the right to hide things from the public, is an incentive to pass externalities to the public, and (in addition) corporations exist only to serve the public's wants/needs. We the People have become subservient to corporations - a total mockery of business' function within society.

Demand creates supply. Consumers drive economies.
 
2011-02-14 05:53:31 PM  

Flab: Aaron Barr, the HBGary chief executive who first caught the attention of Anonymous by boasting that he'd penetrated the group and identified its leaders

While I don't doubt for a second that the /b/tards are being played like a fiddle when it comes to hacking, I'm still not convinced they have a group of leaders. There's probably multiple groups of people who use them as their personal army when the y need it.


"Dude, we just hacked HBGary!"

"Uh, don't get caught."

"No worries, I signed it 'Anonymous'"
 
2011-02-14 05:58:05 PM  
Wouldn't it be funny if what WikiLeaks has isn't that great, but that Bank of America is freaking out because there's actually worse things going on?

/totally guessing
 
2011-02-14 06:02:42 PM  

Nabb1: Weaver95: Hender: m1ke: Why don't they just release the information already?

My guess is that they'd prefer to dole out leaks over time and create the most possible press rather than dump everything on us at once and hope that the juicy nuggets don't get overlooked. Hell, they have, what? 150,000 diplomatic documents? They've released something like 3000 of them and look at the frenzy that's already been whipped up.

oddly enough, the diplomatic documents aren't what got Assange attacked and arrested. it was threatening to release internal bank documents and tell everyone how things REALLY work behind the banking scenes that got him into trouble.

It wasn't threatening the banks that got him into trouble. His leaky wick got him arrested, not his Wikileaks.


Cute, but for serious? Those charges don't seem trumped up for political reasons to you?
 
2011-02-14 06:02:53 PM  
GAT_00 (favorite) 2011-02-14 02:30:24 PM downpaymentblues: Has it ever been confirmed BofA is the Wikileaks target? I think it's always been assumed, due to the corruption and size of BoA, and the fact that their reaction to this clearly means they have something to hide.
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The corruption of BoA is so large that we need a new harsher word than 'corrupt'.

I had a friend who worked there and even he admitted that they were scumbags. Course, that's why he ended up leaving.
 
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