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(Google)   Farker NashvilleDave is planning on buying a PDA ($200 budget) for his wife, a novice PC user. Which handheld should he get her? (Link goes to consumer buying guide on PDAs)   ( divider line
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2003-07-22 12:58:34 AM  
i'll give you a rec if i can see her boobies

2003-07-22 01:01:40 AM  
2003-07-22 01:16:59 AM  
I bought a $400 Ipod instead of a PDA, then Apple came out with a new one a month later.

I think I only want a PDA because everyone else in NYC has one. I mean even the homeless have cell phones, and somehow they get more calls than me...But then, my walls have holes and the apartment smells like a sweaty fat person. But I haven't seen any rats yet at this one, thank God. Priorities, bah.
2003-07-22 01:29:08 AM  
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Save the money...
wil [TotalFark]
2003-07-22 01:31:43 AM  
What does she want it for? If it's just for addressbook, memos, and appointments, any of the older palms are perfect. My wife uses a Palm III and it suits her just fine. She doesn't even play games or use AvantGo with it.

I'd stay as far away from anything running CE as possible, and don't forget to check eBay. You can pick up some stuff that's one version behind but still works great.
2003-07-22 01:32:28 AM  
Why doesnt he read the damn article? Seems a bit obvious to me...
2003-07-22 01:33:14 AM  
2003-07-22 01:34:25 AM  
For the Palm Platform, get a Zire. Cheap, simple.

For Pocket PC, get to CompUSA and get an Audiovox Maestro. It's what I have, and at 150$, it's a hell of a deal for a Pocket PC.
2003-07-22 01:34:29 AM  
LOL @ Ignom

You can get a Nomad Zen from Creative for $100 less than the newest Ipod and it comes with SIXTY gigs of storage capacity.
2003-07-22 01:41:24 AM  
Obviously the submitter didn't read the article...
2003-07-22 01:42:04 AM  
I sell PDA's all day long at a certain electronic retailer which is BEST remained un-named. The Sony PEG-SJ22 is pretty nice, but if you want to upgrade to something a little cooler (a little digital camera and MP3 playback) then I'd recommend shelling out another $100 and going for the Palm Zire 71. Both the Palm and the Sony have very nice screens and are simple to use. I wouldn't recommend a Pocket PC (or Windows Mobile 2003 as the newer models are called) for a novice user. They're simple to use, but their batteries drain much quicker, especially if you're only using it as an organizer and a glorified MP3 player...

Wow, I'm not even getting paid, that's some FREE professional advice, heed it well.

As for tinrobot suggestion, the PAA (Personal Analog Assistant) has a very high reliability rating. It's simple interface is simple to use for all the family members, even my illiterate Uncle Gus (he uses a crayon and draws pictures, just like the Egyptians and their crazy Hieroglyphics).
2003-07-22 01:42:20 AM  
Ephpod, Ipod, and cdex are a great combo if you want an Ipod. The Zen is nice, but you still gotta deal with the Creative Playcenter (which sucks ass).

The Zire is probably a good one to get. If you want a fancy one, I suggest a Clie SJ33
2003-07-22 01:44:14 AM  
Avoid PocketPC like the plague. Palm Zire 71 has gotten universally good reviews. Palm Inc is coming out with the Tungsten|T2 in a week or less, so maybe you want to wait and see if prices drop after it is released.
2003-07-22 01:46:27 AM  
PocketPCs can dub as an MP3 player, so that's a plus.
2003-07-22 01:47:40 AM  
2003-07-22 01:48:06 AM  
I use rectilinear thin planes of bonded cellulose with gravity fed, dye dispensing styli.
2003-07-22 01:48:20 AM  
If she's a Windows user, she'll be most comfortable with a Pocket PC. Admittedly, the OS is no better than its desktop counterpart, but it's hella easy to use. The Audiovox Maestro deal mentioned earlier would make sense. For features, focus on battery life and memory expandability. You don't need anything fancy - she'll probably never play MP3s, watch DiVX movies, or play any game except solitaire.
2003-07-22 01:49:09 AM  
Dell Axim.
2003-07-22 01:50:45 AM  
hockey97fan is dead on. The Zire 71 is awesome. I have a Sony Clie T615 -- a great PDA -- and the Zire, and the upcoming Tungsten T|T (or T2, depending on who you ask) are the first new PDAs to make me want to upgrade. Go for it. Beautiful screen (higher res and better quality than any PocketPC device), great expansion, boatload of available apps, no MS garbage to wade through, low in calories, gets rid of wrinkles and cellulite... wait... never mind. But really, the Zire 71 kicks arse.
2003-07-22 01:52:26 AM  
As long as we're here, what's a good non-novice PDA for around the same price range? Preferably with good battery life.
2003-07-22 01:53:00 AM  
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2003-07-22 02:10:48 AM  
I love my Sony Clie. It runs Palm OS and has tons of great sony imaging programs that come with the package. the service has been incredible as well. i would NOT reccommend any of the handspring models. when i broke my handspring i wanted to get it fixed, but the model became discontinued....i dunno bad blood there i guess. sony all the way. they won't go out of business anytime soon.
2003-07-22 02:11:19 AM  
I'm with tinrobot. I have made a comparison in the course of my business between keeping notes and my schedule on a clipboard, and doing it on a PDA. The clipboard won, hands down. The PDA is taking up valuable space in a drawer.

Additionally, I really wanted to use DeLorme GPS software with the PDA. The experiment was a complete and utter waste of money and lots of time. Bah.
2003-07-22 02:12:37 AM  
I have had my Sony Clie (PEG-T615C) for 6 months+ and I am loving it. It runs on PalmOS version 4.1. It has a colored, bright screen (you can choose when to have it backlit) and 15M of space. It is relatively small - check out its dimensions online. I love it because it doesn't take up too much space but I can still easily read what I'm doing. You can find this on Ebay for within your price range; I got mine, which is refurbished, via Ebay from The Electronics Jungle. I've had no problems - it is just like new, it even came with the warranty.

I hope this helps! Good luck picking one out. :)
2003-07-22 02:14:14 AM  
I agree with tinrobot. I had a Palm Whatever and whenever I tried to write in "Graffitti" I got some odd results. It was never accurate.

My wife's got a handheld PC and hardly uses it. We both, however, rely much more on our handy organizers for reminders, calendars, etc.

If it means anything, I remember a story about millionaire Richard Branson, a guy who refuses even use a laptop while traveling. All of his notes, ideas, etc. are scribbled in his notebook.

He's got millions. He must know something.
2003-07-22 02:14:29 AM  

I have pics. What's a rec?
2003-07-22 02:16:15 AM  
A quick bio on my wife. She is a full time mom of two; boy 11, and girl 6. She started selling Mary Kay, and needs a way to keep up with contacts and such. Nothing fancy.
2003-07-22 02:24:05 AM  
Can't go wrong with a nice old PalmIII. Download some spiffy software and you can turn it into a universal remote. They go for like 30 bucks on ebay.
2003-07-22 02:25:47 AM  
I myself gotta dell axim w/ gps and keyboard the whole deal, but before i decided to go the expensive route i was looking at handspring visors, they're cool and have a mini keyboard built in, good cuz styluses are annoying, that or a tmobile sidekick, aka danger hiptop, if you don't have a contract with another cell provider already, you should really consider this, its a pretty rad little combo device. ok thats all my input. good luck.
2003-07-22 02:27:12 AM  
Maybe he should look at that consumer buying guide and not listen to a bunch of farkers.
2003-07-22 02:27:45 AM  
Thanks all. I've done some research, but there is nothing better than opinions from people with nothing to gain.
2003-07-22 02:29:25 AM  
why not just get a TI 89 or 92? it does games and stuff, has memory to remember things, you just gotta learn how to use it

and it wont lose its value as fast as a palm. it will also still be useful many years into the future.
2003-07-22 02:29:37 AM  
In that case NashvilleDave Just go with a really basic palm. It is important to rememeber that even with all the bells and whistles, the fancy ones work the exact same way as the basic ones when it comes to contacts and appointments. I would recommend the Palm Zire. less than 100 bucks, and it will work pefectly.
2003-07-22 02:38:07 AM  
i'm a software developer who writes for PDAs. sony is the only thing that makes palm interesting in my book. everything about CE feels more powerfull and flexible to me, especially now that the hardware has caught up to the software. it always bugged me how the palm wasted so much potential screen space on the dedicated graffiti pad. the new hp2215 is super-nice. it runs my program 4 times faster than the handfull of 2002 devices we have. but it's 350 or so. see if you can find a deal on a hp1910. even though it's last year's value model, it's the smallest of the bunch, has the nicest screen i've seen, she won't notice any speed difference and it looks good in a chick's hands. the dell is nice on paper but it feels clunky compared to the others i have. if she's the klutzy type get her a trimble recon. they're only $1800.
2003-07-22 02:55:39 AM  
First, one really great PDA that is so simple to use:

On with the harder to use stuff...I am no professional but I am a PDA enthusiast and I am currently using a Pocket PC. I have had my experience with Palm, and I personally believe that text input on the Pocket PC is much better than Palm's Graffiti (or Jot/Graffitti 2). The handwriting recognition on Pocket PCs is amazing, and Pocket PCs offer both Jot and Graffitti for those who prefer it. A big plus is that handwriting recognition works on the whole screen, so you are not limited to the small space that Palms give you. I also prefer the contact-management in Pocket PCs to that of Palms.

The user interface on Pocket PCs IS slightly more complicated, but for someone who uses Windows on their desktop it should be no problem. Battery life should be okay unless your wife is someone who enjoys watching videos or listening to music all the time on her PDA. A big plus for Palms however, is that there is a lot more freeware available online for Palms.

For just $50 more than your budget, you can get the HP iPaq 1910 which has a terrific color screen that is better than most other Pocket PCs. It is also extremely small and light, unlike the Dell Axim or the Audiovox Maestro. For a Palm, do not get the Zire 71 unless your wife needs the camera. Or else you're just paying extra for something you don't need. I would suggest a Sony Clie, such as the SJ22 (which also has a color screen), which meets your budget. If you are looking for the most basic PDA, get a monochrome Sony Clie or the Palm Zire(not 71), if you don't mind not having color (all current Pocket PCs have color so no super-cheap ones there).

Be sure to visit for reviews and user opinions (although they are often overly negative and picky) and other sites. Good luck! Hope you appreciate this overly-serious comment.
2003-07-22 03:07:05 AM  
I have a Palm m130 for sale, still sealed in the box.

$170 (its $210 in the store).

email me at qbrea­ks[nospam-﹫-backwards]oo­ha­y­*com

color screen, 16 megs , comes with everything you need.
2003-07-22 03:12:44 AM  
i'll sell you my used toshiba e310, it's still in great condition and i'll throw in a 128mb sdcard too. $150 or whatever
2003-07-22 03:41:55 AM  
Link goes to consumer buying guide on PDA's.

As in rea-ding con-su-mers guide.

2003-07-22 03:51:34 AM  
You mean there's a female that will remove the cell phone glued to her head long enough to use any other device???

Give her an abacus.... just make sure the pretty beads are the right color.
2003-07-22 04:20:31 AM  
Young kids in the house and don't need anything fancy?

Seriously consider one of the Palms with a plastic screen

/waiting for a replacement glass digitizer in the mail (3rd time)
2003-07-22 04:23:57 AM  
A Palm Zire is a great entry level unit. Don't be fooled by the small memory size, Palms use very little memory to do their core job (calender/address book), you could store thousands of addresses/dates on there.

For something a little more fancy, the Sony Clie SJ-22 might be a good choice. More mem, higher res screen, color and memory stick expansion. Still a fairly good price.

Avoid any of the Windows CE/PocketPC/whatever units. They are teh suxor.
2003-07-22 04:42:41 AM  
Get a Pocket PC instead, it's a lot more versatile. As for which one, the choic is simple:

The DELL AXIM X5 300 Mhz Pocket PC

Not only is it cheap, it runs programs beautifully, with all the benefits of a Pocket PC platform. I have the 400 Mhz one, and I can't be any happier!
2003-07-22 04:43:21 AM  
Don't skewer me for this suggestion (and take it for what it's worth), but if your wife is simply looking to store names and numbers, you might find something at Radio Shack that does only that for about twenty dollars, maybe cheaper. It won't synch to a PC, it won't do e-mail or keep appointment reminders, but if you're looking for an extremely simple and compact version of a Rolodex, consider the Shack.

2003-07-22 04:44:43 AM  
I personally have a Dell Axim X5 300MHz model + foldable keyboard. I use it as a minature laptop essentially, typing documents on it, listening to music while I do so.
I also found by accident a free program that turns the device into a graphing calculator with approximately the same features as a TI-83 or 89 (it has a few more than the 83, but not as many as the 89) while running MUCH faster. It's the Math Xpander.
Also, if you want to watch DivX videos on the PocketPC rather than WMV files, get the Pocket MVP player. But I wouldn't recommend playing MP3s with it, it has this weird audio error for a split second at the beginning of each song.
And of course, another great use of the PocketPC is turning it into the ultimate gameboy with emulators such as Pocket Nester, GNUBoy CE, and CE/gg (all free).
Finally, to keep up that framerate, get the Pocket Hack Master to trick your 300MHz Dell Axim into thinking it's the 400MHz model.
2003-07-22 05:42:42 AM  
xxxjoel: I wouldn't recommend getting something that doesn't sync to PC, as it would be much easier to enter the contact information on a PC then sync it to the device. Also, syncing to a PC provides a backup.

One more thing, watch out if you're planning on getting a Zire (not 71) because it has no backlight and has very little memory (not expandable either). On the plus side, monochrome devices (maybe some sony clie one will be better) have better battery life because color displays eat up batteries. Check Ebay for great prices!
2003-07-22 06:13:54 AM  
If your wife is anything like mine, all she needs is a Palm m100 - about $25 on ebay. I think you will find that most women are not bothered about flashy designs and loads of functions. Mine hasn't even installed any software on hers, she reckons it's already got everything she needs straight out of the box.
2003-07-22 06:16:26 AM  
Go with the Palm Zire 71.

Palm Zire is great except that it has no backlight, which can be a big minus.
2003-07-22 06:19:49 AM  
This totally doesn't answer your question but I have a Sony Clie NX60 and am watching Strongbad on it right now. I can't imagine life without it. OK maybe I could. But I wouldn't be able to play Railroad while taking a dump at work.
2003-07-22 06:29:00 AM  
DerDrache, I bet you posted that whilst on the crapper too :)
2003-07-22 06:34:14 AM  

I just checked out your link, and I must say it is the best of the smart ones. Nice job.
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