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2011-02-05 01:37:08 AM
A mother was banned from taking pictures of her baby just after she was born

I'd probably ban that too.
 
2011-02-05 01:44:53 AM

Sun God: A mother was banned from taking pictures of her baby just after she was born

I'd probably ban that too.


Why?
 
2011-02-05 02:16:21 AM
FTA:

Although they deny it, bosses are also conscious of the danger from lawsuits - amateur footage taken from a problematic birth in Illinois in 2007 was used to secure a $2.3million payout.


Bingo.
 
2011-02-05 02:46:41 AM

Bathia_Mapes: Sun God: A mother was banned from taking pictures of her baby just after she was born

I'd probably ban that too.

Why?


Mostly because of the grammar.

When a baby exits the birth canal there is an extreme excess of acetylcholine in the baby's brain. It's a form of excitement, for the baby, and allows that particular baby to survive. You didn't think you'd just punch it out without knowing if it was healthy?

Interestingly, pilots landing planes at night on an aircraft carriers have roughly the same levels of acetylcholine in their systems as a baby exiting the womb.
 
2011-02-05 06:35:28 AM
Need to take up a collection to get this women sterilized pronto.
Related to the Duggars?
 
2011-02-05 06:36:05 AM
"who are they to tell me I can't take a picture of my own flesh and blood."

Well, it's a hospital, they can make their own rules about when and where filming and photography can take place. Don't like it, have your baby somewhere else.

There's no mandate that says you can do whatever the fark you want to do. If the hospital wants to make such a rule, deal with it and move on.
 
2011-02-05 06:38:59 AM
Just let her take the pictures and bust her for making child porn like we do all the other times.
 
2011-02-05 06:39:14 AM
too old
 
2011-02-05 06:41:24 AM
"She told the New York Times that her husband Michael, 37, a policeman, was finally allowed to take a picture of Kelii 30 seconds after the birth but that the rules were too harsh and needed to be changed."

Considering filming a policeman in Maryland can get you arrested on a totally bogus interpretation of wiretap laws -- which have already been thrown out by courts to absolutely no effect on cops harassing people for filming them -- the irony abounds.

Or is it justice?
 
2011-02-05 06:45:58 AM
Freaking "look at me" generation. OMG I can't put something on facebook! No one wants to see your crotch fruit the very second it comes out of you anwaY, get over it.
 
2011-02-05 06:46:17 AM
A mother of EIGHT?!?
 
2011-02-05 06:51:38 AM
I think this is just stupid. This all boils down to the hospital being scared that if they fark up it's going to be caught on film and they can lose millions of $$. You have no idea the kind of crap that goes on in hospitals. Drs will cover each other's asses until the end of time. My mother used to work in a hospital. I have heard stories that violently piss you off. The stuff these people get away with is sickening.

I personally would NEVER have a baby in a hospital. A friend of mine explicitly told the hospital that she didn't want anything done to her child without her written consent. That included any shots of any kind. Well the hospital went ahead and gave her son a shot without her knowledge. She only found out about it after she got the hospital bill. That's something she could have sued the hospital over. They're lucky she didn't want the headache of suing the hospital.
 
2011-02-05 06:56:41 AM

HideAndGoFarkYourself: "who are they to tell me I can't take a picture of my own flesh and blood."

Well, it's a hospital, they can make their own rules about when and where filming and photography can take place. Don't like it, have your baby somewhere else.

There's no mandate that says you can do whatever the fark you want to do. If the hospital wants to make such a rule, deal with it and move on.


I would just hope that if there's ever a dispute about what happened in delivery, the hospital's refusal to permit a record of events would be held against them; they should be treated as if they had destroyed evidence.
 
2011-02-05 06:57:42 AM
Oh noes, 30 whole seconds. How about letting the medical staff focus on ensuring your newborn is healthy and doesn't need serious medical care instead of shoving a camera in front of them.

tomw: Freaking "look at me" generation. OMG I can't put something on facebook! No one wants to see your crotch fruit the very second it comes out of you anwaY, get over it.


So true
 
2011-02-05 06:58:39 AM
SHUT UP AND DO AS YOU ARE TOLD AND GIVE US MONEY!!1!

Sadly, not news.
 
2011-02-05 06:59:29 AM
Private organisation denies patron's request due to lawsuits stemming from others making a similar request.
 
2011-02-05 07:04:26 AM
Jeez, lady. Wait till they clean the damn thing off first. Who wants to see a picture of themselves covered with blood and screaming? That kid will be living in your basement for decades there will be plenty of time for pictures.

//no kids
//The miracle of birth is a beautiful thing but it is also one of the most disgusting things that happen in our lives
 
2011-02-05 07:04:41 AM
Something is amiss about this story.

A person can't violate her own confidentiality.

I'm betting she's claiming this for attention and it had more to do with the doctors' recommendation the baby not have flashes for a few minutes, and/or it was a complicated birth and the doctors didn't want to be sued (since Obstetricians have high lawsuit rates).
 
2011-02-05 07:05:32 AM
The doc says in the article "'takes offence' that 'now I have to be videoed to prove that I'm providing good care'."

No problem. How about this: You make it your personal policy to refuse to deliver any babies if they videotape. It's that simple. You tell potential patients that up front, then you can get to have it your way and the rest of the hospital doesn't have to look like they're the anal retentive d*ckwads.

People, and especially professionals have a right to be a little particular how they do their jobs, so the doc can set silly rules if he wants. But institutions do not, because they're supposed to be serving the people, not themselves. If the doc says no cameras, then so be it. He's done medical school and been in practice for X years... he's gained the right to be anal about cameras. But the administrators can't say "no cameras" because then they're busy worrying about themselves, not doing their jobs managing a hospital.
 
2011-02-05 07:08:10 AM

tototototo: Private organisation denies patron's request due to lawsuits stemming from others making a similar request.


It's not like births are a 100% guaranteed successful, no problems-type operation. Hospitals and the medical advances within have greatly increased survival odds for many types of children that would never have lived before. However, it's also created the unreasonable expectation of 100% perfect births every time.

If someone has an issue, even if it ISN'T the doctor's fault and it's just one of those things that happens (like the baby is upside-down or whatever else might go wrong) ... well, I mean, there's only so much you can do. But with that expectation of perfection, there's going to be lots of lawsuits.

It's hard to say, because in any job, there's a normal procedure, but things always go wrong at some step and you'll do something outside of procedure to get everything fixed and 99% of the time it'll work out. But that other 1%...well, you don't really want to be paying a few million when those situations come up.

All in all, newborn pictures are gross, anyway.
 
2011-02-05 07:19:48 AM
The only thing stupider than a Daily Fail article is the fact that Farkers will now spawn a 100+ comment argument over it as if half the damn story isn't missing. As is the case with every Daily Fail article.

But, yea. Outrage. Or something.
 
2011-02-05 07:22:12 AM

nimawai: I personally would NEVER have a baby in a hospital. A friend of mine explicitly told the hospital that she didn't want anything done to her child without her written consent. That included any shots of any kind. Well the hospital went ahead and gave her son a shot without her knowledge. She only found out about it after she got the hospital bill. That's something she could have sued the hospital over. They're lucky she didn't want the headache of suing the hospital.


We had our second daughter on the couch, about 10' from where I'm sitting right now.

Just so you're aware, getting blood out of the carpet can be an ordeal.

The birth certificate with "County of Birth: Pike" sums it all up, as there are no hospitals here. The clerk was a little confused. State clerk cut me off as soon as I mentioned "birth certificate" with "that paperwork comes automatically".

I asked "is it delivered before or after the placenta?" and just cut her off when she said "hospital"
 
2011-02-05 07:24:22 AM
Considering the insanely long statute of limitations for bringing lawsuits against OBGYNs in Maryland, I think the real question is why the hell anyone would actually do that specialty in the first place.
 
2011-02-05 07:25:49 AM
When I was twelve I was going through a box of old photo albums. I picked up one album and a bunch of loose photos fell out. Photos of a bloody poo covered bed with a wide shot of my mom's distended snatch crowning my baby sister.

Thanks for saving those precious moments despite mom's angry protests, Gramma.

/Goo story, sis.
 
2011-02-05 07:26:37 AM
CSB time:

My younger brother was born when I was six years old. In an effort to make me feel like I was involved in the birth, my parents put me in charge of filming this momentous occasion.

Now in the months prior to the birth I had been told all kinds of things about what was going to happen, and had a pretty good understanding. When it came down to the actual event, I wasn't freaked out, frightened, or confused by what I saw. I knew what was going to happen, understood (to a limited extent) what it would mean for my mother physically, and took it in stride.

So it was with this rather comprehensive (for a six-year-old) understanding of the events to unfold that I set about my assigned task, i.e. grabbing the video camera and recording the birth. I did a good job, I'm happy to say. A very good job. Much like a young Kubrick, I kept the focus of my film in mind, and got good, clean shots of what was happening.

The end result is that none of the video I shot can be shown to anybody but very, very immediate family, and only those who really don't mind seeing my mom's vagina pretty much non-stop for about 45 minutes.
 
2011-02-05 07:29:59 AM

nimawai: A friend of mine explicitly told the hospital that she didn't want anything done to her child without her written consent.


Your friend is an idiot. If the baby came out with the umbilical cord wrapped around its neck, would you want the doctors standing around waiting for her to draft a contract before they took any action?
 
2011-02-05 07:33:12 AM

nimawai: I personally would NEVER have a baby in a hospital. A friend of mine explicitly told the hospital that she didn't want anything done to her child without her written consent. That included any shots of any kind. Well the hospital went ahead and gave her son a shot without her knowledge. She only found out about it after she got the hospital bill. That's something she could have sued the hospital over. They're lucky she didn't want the headache of suing the hospital.


Or she knew that they wouldn't be able to prove the "injury or death resulting from negligent medical care" component of malpractice and it would be thrown out of court anyway.
 
ZAZ [TotalFark]
2011-02-05 07:33:39 AM
They should charge a $5,000 birth filming fee.
 
2011-02-05 07:35:04 AM
There is no reason for you to go to hospital because you are having a baby.
 
2011-02-05 07:35:08 AM
Face full of derp.
 
2011-02-05 07:35:59 AM

ne2d: nimawai: A friend of mine explicitly told the hospital that she didn't want anything done to her child without her written consent.

Your friend is an idiot. If the baby came out with the umbilical cord wrapped around its neck, would you want the doctors standing around waiting for her to draft a contract before they took any action?


Pretty sure they would discuss that situation beforehand. Or it would be included under a boilerplate "lifesaving measures" clause.

Having heard plenty of firsthand horror stories about, for example, children coming back circumcised when the parents didn't want that done, I fully support that decision.
 
2011-02-05 07:47:25 AM

Rose McGowan Loveslave: Jeez, lady. Wait till they clean the damn thing off first. Who wants to see a picture of themselves covered with blood and screaming? That kid will be living in your basement for decades there will be plenty of time for pictures.

//no kids
//The miracle of birth is a beautiful thing but it is also one of the most disgusting things that happen in our lives


This. I live in Maryland and am considering having a second child. Since I have photographers in my family and feel the same way as you about newborn pictures, I think I know where I'll be planning on giving birth.
 
2011-02-05 07:47:45 AM

Sun God: There is no reason for you to go to hospital because you are having a baby.


And why is that.
 
2011-02-05 07:47:50 AM

Sun God: There is no reason for you to go to hospital because you are having a baby.


Unless you have a high-risk pregnancy. There's a crunchy-granola site, mothering.com, where some of the denizens are so determined to have the "perfect birth experience" that they'll try to birth at home despite huge health concerns, i.e. gestational diabetes, VBAC, etc.

Some of these whack-jobs are more concerned with their "birth experience" than having a baby who, y'know, lives.
 
2011-02-05 07:50:30 AM

Sun God: There is no reason for you to go to hospital because you are having a baby.


C sections are kinda rough on the carpet
 
2011-02-05 07:51:03 AM

yukichigai: Pretty sure they would discuss that situation beforehand. Or it would be included under a boilerplate "lifesaving measures" clause.

Having heard plenty of firsthand horror stories about, for example, children coming back circumcised when the parents didn't want that done, I fully support that decision.


Much like the abuse of the elastic clause, just about anything the hospital does will be justified under that clause.
 
2011-02-05 07:52:30 AM

HomerButt: Sun God: There is no reason for you to go to hospital because you are having a baby.

Unless you have a high-risk pregnancy. There's a crunchy-granola site, mothering.com, where some of the denizens are so determined to have the "perfect birth experience" that they'll try to birth at home despite huge health concerns, i.e. gestational diabetes, VBAC, etc.

Some of these whack-jobs are more concerned with their "birth experience" than having a baby who, y'know, lives.


"If one more of my whole food friends tells me I have to have a home birth I'm going to punch all the soy on the planet"

Link (new window)
 
2011-02-05 07:53:03 AM
Btw, I bet this lady would shiat herself if someone posted pics of her kid online without her permission. Docs don't get the same consideration?
I personally wouldn't care if I was the doc.
 
2011-02-05 07:55:46 AM

yukichigai: CSB time:

My younger brother was born when I was six years old. In an effort to make me feel like I was involved in the birth, my parents put me in charge of filming this momentous occasion.

Now in the months prior to the birth I had been told all kinds of things about what was going to happen, and had a pretty good understanding. When it came down to the actual event, I wasn't freaked out, frightened, or confused by what I saw. I knew what was going to happen, understood (to a limited extent) what it would mean for my mother physically, and took it in stride.

So it was with this rather comprehensive (for a six-year-old) understanding of the events to unfold that I set about my assigned task, i.e. grabbing the video camera and recording the birth. I did a good job, I'm happy to say. A very good job. Much like a young Kubrick, I kept the focus of my film in mind, and got good, clean shots of what was happening.

The end result is that none of the video I shot can be shown to anybody but very, very immediate family, and only those who really don't mind seeing my mom's vagina pretty much non-stop for about 45 minutes.


Well, it's not like we haven't all seen it before.
 
2011-02-05 07:56:33 AM
This is a pretty standard cover your a$$ move by hospitals. When our son was born we were told that the doctor would tell us when we had to stop filming or taking pictures.

/same hospital where Urhines Kendall Special K Icy Eight was born
 
2011-02-05 07:56:34 AM

Seacop: Sun God: There is no reason for you to go to hospital because you are having a baby.

And why is that.


Apparently, if you don't birth your kid in a hospital, that kid will die.

Amazingly, kids are born outside of hospitals all over the world, and the kids don't die. At least statistically. Hire a doula.
 
2011-02-05 07:58:42 AM

HomerButt: Sun God: There is no reason for you to go to hospital because you are having a baby.

Unless you have a high-risk pregnancy. There's a crunchy-granola site, mothering.com, where some of the denizens are so determined to have the "perfect birth experience" that they'll try to birth at home despite huge health concerns, i.e. gestational diabetes, VBAC, etc.

Some of these whack-jobs are more concerned with their "birth experience" than having a baby who, y'know, lives.


Let me guess: they're the same women who go on about "birth rape." (new window)
 
2011-02-05 07:59:51 AM
Maybe babby was real ugly?
 
2011-02-05 08:00:07 AM
Okay, so forgive in advance for the rant, but......

If you reject modern medicine, and do not want to allow the farking
TRAINED healthcare providers to make decisions based on education and experience and not some feel-good bullshiat you read in Redbook.....go right the hell ahead and stay home!! We do NOT come and drag your ass out of your house to 'play doctor/nurse'. You come to US!! You ASK for our expertise! Then you want to get all whiny that we don't accomodate every whim that crosses your little self indulgent pea-brain. No, we are not perfect. We make mistakes. But not as many as YOU will if you try to do my job for me!!

Don't tell me how to do my job. We (mostly) try to do everything possible to make your hospital stay and treatment as easy as possible. I try to explain everything to you and your 38 farking 'family members'. But I can't teach you everything I know from 25 years experience in 20 damn minutes!

I seriously wonder how many other professions have 'lay people' telling them what they thing is the way 'it should be done' based on some 30 minute History Channel EXCLUSIVE!! or an advertisement in a womens magazine. Sheesh, most people don't question their damned mechanic as much as they second-guess our profession.

/rant over
//so is my 12 hour shift in an ICU
 
2011-02-05 08:02:26 AM

Sgt Otter: FTA:

Although they deny it, bosses are also conscious of the danger from lawsuits - amateur footage taken from a problematic birth in Illinois in 2007 was used to secure a $2.3million payout.


Bingo.


no, BINGO!

And so nice of them to shroud it in a privacy argument. Very lawyer-like and slimy, helping to make legitimate privacy concerns appear less valid.

And so very ironic that they used the argument on a cop who wanted to take the picture.
 
2011-02-05 08:13:03 AM

Sun God: Seacop: Sun God: There is no reason for you to go to hospital because you are having a baby.

And why is that.

Apparently, if you don't birth your kid in a hospital, that kid will die.

Amazingly, kids are born outside of hospitals all over the world, and the kids don't die. At least statistically. Hire a doula.


Well, sure, as long as the global statistics are satisfactory, there's no sense in considering the specifics of your situation.

/people survive, at least statistically, in all sorts of circumstances that I'd want no part of
 
2011-02-05 08:14:41 AM
So, if I understand all this correctly, a baby is no longer considered 'new born' once it reached the ripe old age of 30 seconds.
 
2011-02-05 08:15:37 AM

Sun God: Seacop: Sun God: There is no reason for you to go to hospital because you are having a baby.

And why is that.

Apparently, if you don't birth your kid in a hospital, that kid will die.

Amazingly, kids are born outside of hospitals all over the world, and the kids don't die. At least statistically. Hire a doula.


I'll post it again.

Link (new window)
 
2011-02-05 08:15:39 AM

Monkeyfark Ridiculous: Sun God: Seacop: Sun God: There is no reason for you to go to hospital because you are having a baby.

And why is that.

Apparently, if you don't birth your kid in a hospital, that kid will die.

Amazingly, kids are born outside of hospitals all over the world, and the kids don't die. At least statistically. Hire a doula.

Well, sure, as long as the global statistics are satisfactory, there's no sense in considering the specifics of your situation.

/people survive, at least statistically, in all sorts of circumstances that I'd want no part of


Glad to hear it.
 
2011-02-05 08:15:56 AM
I had my camera in the delivery room for both my kids being delivered. They were both c-Section, so I got all kinds of cool pictures. They had no problem at all with me having a camera.
 
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