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(Yahoo)   NM's Governor tells citizens the state is just plumb out of electricity and natural gas at the moment, urges everyone to put on an extra sweater or two and huddle up real close together for the next couple a days   (news.yahoo.com) divider line 70
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2011-02-04 04:09:42 PM

canyoneer: (Old) Hite is under water now. A real shame.


It's back under? I was there in 2004 and the campground was closed. The lake had turned back into a river because it was so low.

/didn't know it was closed because I pulled in about 1am in the pitch dark.
//woke up in the morning and wondered where everyone else was.
 
2011-02-04 04:28:21 PM

Feldspar Q. Walrustitty: It's back under? I was there in 2004 and the campground was closed. The lake had turned back into a river because it was so low...didn't know it was closed because I pulled in about 1am in the pitch dark...woke up in the morning and wondered where everyone else was.


Old Hite, not Hite Marina. The old crossing ("Dandy Crossing") and Hite were at the mouth of Trachyte Creek...right across from the mouth of White Canyon. The modern Hite Marina is upstream near the bridges and the Dirty Devil. I think you can still get down to the general area via dirt road, but the old hamlet and groves and ferry are under water now.

The Lake has come up a bit in the last few years, but the marina is still closed as far as I know...no put-ins. The campground's still there and open, I think.
 
2011-02-04 04:46:46 PM
What's an "a" day?
 
2011-02-04 05:10:36 PM
I think she's just trying to freeze the Mexicans into thinking its time to go back to Mexico.
 
2011-02-04 05:11:06 PM
As a former Minnesotan who's lived here in NM for 2 years...it's pretty cold here. People are definitely not ready for this. And it's not just a gas shortage either. People's pipes have been bursting like crazy because no one has knowledge about how to prep or handle such a problem. There are people without water or electric, which really sucks.
 
2011-02-04 05:12:33 PM

joseelsegundo: I think this is probably a legit shortage. The temperatures in NM have been FAR below normal, so demand must be huge. My alma mater has been closed for the past few days as a result, which is a pretty rare occurrence.


Woof, woof woof? (Or HS alma mater?)

All my NM friends and family are freaking out about the cold - I lived there 25 years and can't remember actual temperatures in the negatives - wind chills, maybe, but not actual temperatures.
 
2011-02-04 05:46:57 PM
It's 32F in Grand FOrks North Dakota right now. :P
 
2011-02-04 05:51:08 PM
2011 and we can't supply reliable power? No wonder our infrastructure gets a D-

Pathetic
 
2011-02-04 06:37:13 PM

scott-ty: Turn out the lights.. the partys over.. or, do like Oregon. Shut down the only coal plant in the state, subsidize wind and solar... even when the wind doesn't blow and the sun doesn't shine. Pay 5 times for energy that is green..haha.. instead of going with carbon based power. Oh, btw coal and natural gas have to be there to back up generation when the greens don't produce.. you asshats............Oregon also shut down their only nuke plant years ago out of Rainier... lol now some say nuke is the way, well I agree... just takes 10 to 12 years to get one from permitted to operating. Looks like an expensive dark road ahead.


We'll get there sooner than later. There are a variety of options & more affordable ways to make/use green energy. Like this one for PDX. Can't wait get to get some installed on our place.
 
2011-02-04 06:54:44 PM

Nuno311: Regardless of cause - or fault, imagine if that region had a REAL emergency? Like a wicked terrorist attack or a biological outbreak.

Some cold, some blackouts and a decompressed natural gas pipe is now "a state of emergency"?

It seems like every state that has any sort of storm calls a "state of emergency" (I know they do it for federal funding) but what would they call a REAL emergency?

Crying wolf....all of 'em



The city of Alamogordo would probably like a word with you regarding 'crying wolf'. At least they would, after they get full electricity and gas back to do it. :( It's a very bad situation.

/I worry about the rezes
//Probably the only one
///snow is better than negative wind chill
 
2011-02-04 09:01:59 PM
Just got off the phone with my brother in Taos. No gas there, cold as hell, but people are helping each other out, sharing firewood and offering their homes for shelter if others can't heat theirs. Those adobe houses will stay warm for days once they're warm enough. People lived out there for years before the pipeline from Texas came along. They'll be ok. Their pipes wont.

On that note, if you are a plumber, you might consider a trip to the region soon. Bring your tools.
 
2011-02-04 09:20:18 PM

mod3072: Just out of curiosity, and because I'm too lazy busy to look it up myself, how cold has it actually been in NM? Can I feel justified in mocking softies in a southern state for thinking that 50 degrees is cold? We had wind chills of 50 below here last week, but it would totally be worth it if I could feel superior to those losers down south.


It was -2 Wed and -4 on Thurs before dawn in Roswell... and we had a NASTY 30mi and hour wind to go along with it.

Still, we have been a lot luckier than a lot of the state. I have family in Alamo and on the Res that I can't get a hold of. Sucks.
 
2011-02-04 11:50:04 PM
I'm new to the ABQ, NM area (moved here about two years ago) and I've been in some cold places before but this bad storm that affected most of the country really threw things out of whack. It was mildly cold before the storm (usually in the mid to upper 20s) but during the storm temps dropped faster and lower than everyone expected. No one was ready for how cold it was. Albuquerque was relatively warm (-6 to -10) compared to other parts of the state.

Every store in town sold out of space heaters. Sportsmans Warehouse had a few propane camping heaters but that was it. Several areas such as the east side of Bernalillo were completely out of gas.

The airbase and UNM shutdown to reduce the strain on the energy systems.

Kinda weird if you ask me. I've never seen a gas shortage like this before.
 
2011-02-05 01:20:25 AM
What if this..

You live in a desert, soo...put some solar pannels on the roof of your house, convert your house to electrical heating and solar water heating, and let the northern "gray for 4 months out of the year" states worry about the gas? eh?
 
2011-02-05 08:02:46 AM
I live here. It's a real crisis. Los Alamos National Labs shut down to help reduce the drain on the system.

We broke all time low records for 4 days straight. One day in question it was -16 at my house, with wind chill it felt like -31.

In comparison, Barrow Alaska..the northern most city in Alaska (think Ice Road Truckers) had a low of +7.

/farking cold
 
2011-02-05 12:41:25 PM
How cold could it possibly get in NM? What's a cold day there, like, 50 degrees overnight? Brrrr!
<today's forecasted high where I live: 8 degrees>
<bitter>
 
2011-02-05 01:52:30 PM
cicio2000How cold could it possibly get in NM? What's a cold day there, like, 50 degrees overnight? Brrrr!




Read the thread & the news reports,idiot.
 
2011-02-05 02:16:51 PM

atomicmask: You live in a desert, soo...put some solar pannels on the roof of your house, convert your house to electrical heating and solar water heating, and let the northern "gray for 4 months out of the year" states worry about the gas? eh?


Photovoltaic solar cells are far too inefficient to generate enough electricity to heat a home using an electric furnace or a heat pump.

You might be able to install some solar hot water heaters and then run the water through a radiant in-floor heat loop, but you'd need a really big holding tank to store enough hot water to make it through the night.
 
2011-02-05 05:44:36 PM

Nuno311: but what would they call a REAL emergency?


They'd call it yet another state of emergency. It makes a lot more sense when you realize that the governor declaring a "state of emergency" gives him superpowers to nobly defend his constituency. It's just a political tool.

/A superhero political tool.
 
2011-02-05 07:51:19 PM

Stibium: Nuno311: but what would they call a REAL emergency?

They'd call it yet another state of emergency. It makes a lot more sense when you realize that the governor declaring a "state of emergency" gives him superpowers to nobly defend his constituency.


Uh-oh, my power plant runs on kryptonite.
 
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