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(Detroit Free Press)   Man charged with felony for killing kitten while driving. No, really   (freep.com) divider line 219
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2003-07-20 01:46:18 AM  
Stoke...
I have plenty of perspective. I just believe that every single human is responsible for what we as a species do on this planet. We took the trouble to domesticate certain animals and I think that we, being sentient and intelligent animals ourselves, owe them some measure of humane treatment as a result. And your argument about one animal being food in one country and a pet in another is moot. Notice I said abuse of COMPANION animals. In this country and this culture, that's what cats are. That's why, in this case, and this culture, what he did was cruel and reflects on him as a human being. In some countries, twins get left to be eaten by animals because they're a sign of evil...

And with that, I retire, because I've remembered the wise adage about arguing on the internet and it's parallel in special olympics...

I have to ask, though, what's this "White Man" crap? How would you have any idea that I'm either? And I seem to recall pleny of native American cultures (both North and South) domesticating animals, so you can stuff the crap about this being a European/Western/Asian thing. Go be a troll somewhere else, because this has nothing to do with race.
 
2003-07-20 02:06:24 AM  
I hope this guy suffers a hundred times as much pain, as this poor defenseless animal suffered in the last minuets of its life, for a minimum duration of a year.
 
2003-07-20 02:13:33 AM  
Cubansaltyballs, seems about right! if someone "hurt" this guy and he was being tried, as a jurist, I would not find that someone guilty.
 
2003-07-20 02:33:46 AM  
AdrienneEE
"I have plenty of perspective. I just believe that every single human is responsible for what we as a species do on this planet."

No, you have zero perspective. It's limited to urban, mainstream, narrow-minded claptrap. It wasn't humans, as a species, that domesticated cats. It was several different cultures. The vast majority of human cultures that have existed didn't take part in the domestication of cats or they were introduced into their culture from other cultures after domestication. "Companion animal" is a subjective term. It's definition varies from person to person and culture to culture. The USA, my friend, is made up of many diverse cultures and in some of those cultures, cats are still eaten. Go poke your head into some ovens around Chinatown.

You can have your belief that we're responsible for what we do as a species on this planet. I believe we're responsible for what we do as individuals. When you start trying to impose your beliefs on me, be warned that you'll get a gun shoved in your nose. I'm quite sick and tired of people like you trying to impose their values and misguided beliefs on others and that's what you're trying to imply here.

"I have to ask, though, what's this "White Man" crap? How would you have any idea that I'm either? And I seem to recall pleny of native American cultures (both North and South) domesticating animals, so you can stuff the crap about this being a European/Western/Asian thing. Go be a troll somewhere else, because this has nothing to do with race."

It's a common expression, if you were black you would be familiar with it. No racial offense was meant. Regardless, cats weren't domesticated by Native Americans. You missed my point that what may be one man's sancrosanct animal is just another man's food. How would you like to have Hinduism become the predominant religion in our government then have millions of people sent to prison for killing cows? Sounds pretty rediculous doesn't it?

Well, that's what Hindus in this country get to deal with all the time. They live in a country where their sancrosanct animal is murdered by the millions every year and no one goes to jail or is punished for it. How are their beliefs any less important than yours? Your sacred cat gets protected by law, yet their religion's highest form of life is a mass produced murdered commodity. How about the Chinese? They come here from China where eating a cat is acceptable and all of a sudden they can be put in jail for serving it up on a plate. Gee, that's a nice way to encourage diversity. "Sure, you immigrants are welcome to come on over just as long as we can forcibly impose our culture on you and our views take precedence in all matters."

Yea, only your beliefs are the ones that really matter. It's your beliefs that represent all of America. No one else's beliefs other than yours means shiat or should be given the slightest moment's consideration or attempt at understanding.

I have a hard time trying to find the right word for that type of philisophy...

Egotistical?
Intolerant?
Aristocratic?
Arrogant?
Pretentious?
Ignorant?

Oh wait, there is a term that encompasses all of those qualities... Urban White American.
 
2003-07-20 02:47:15 AM  
fry that sick son of a biatch. fry him.

people like this dont deserve to be alive
 
2003-07-20 03:00:25 AM  
ha ha.
Some of you are so hardcore.
HARDCORE!

This isn't a peta issue. It's just an issue of what is appropriate behavior.
Hyperbole is great for forums but I don't think anyone is seriously suggesting that they throw his baby from a car.

I agree with the felony charge and a buttload of community service for this man...Why? Well do YOU think this is the kind of person we should let VOTE?

that said, this picture has always cracked me up:
 
2003-07-20 03:01:30 AM  
I shouldn't be allowed to vote either, I'm a big duh.

cut and paste, i'm too tired to figure out why it was unfetchable.

http://www.jill-off.com/images/catcarrier
 
2003-07-20 03:08:42 AM  
OMFG, as if a pneumatic hammer is any more farking humane. Or drowning in a bag. Really.
4 years for throwing a cat out of a car? Sounds like some society has its priorities farked up and way too much money for the local prison budget.
I'm not supporting animal cruelty, but if you support killing a human because he killed an animal . . .
 
2003-07-20 03:43:44 AM  
You guys want to kill him for this? How do you think his 5 month old will feel about that? Sad. Might grow up to hate kittens. Wife left all alone to raise her. Animal rights people anger me.
 
2003-07-20 05:29:18 AM  
it aint like set us up the bomb....

let me ask you, what do you THINK "hook him up to the chrismas lights and light him up" means?
 
2003-07-20 10:22:27 AM  
Hate him?
Call him at home and let him know.
I feel no guilt in posting this as it is easy to get off of whitepages.com.

Carlos "kitten killer" Valladares-Guillen
47771 Hickory St
Wixom, MI 48393
(248) 926-6339
 
2003-07-20 12:21:00 PM  
spincut
See, it is sorta like that, because you left out the to and wrote:

hook him up the chrismas lights and light him up!

Hook him up the chrismas [sic] lights

does sound similar to

Set us up the bomb.

Either way, I don't really think electrocution is a reasonable punishment for cruelty to animals.
 
2003-07-20 02:25:25 PM  
Im not going to say who but a certain someone who says the aren't a hypocrite also says they are a Grammer Nazi but when referring to my name, you should have written Haos' remark instead of Haos's remark!

Grammar.

I'd personally like to put a deer slug in the cat-killer's head, but violence shouldn't beget violence; now if I could talk him into committing suicide...
 
2003-07-20 02:46:59 PM  
Stoke, you make the mistake of thinking that our society should be tolerant of all societal differences. Many of us believe that some societal choices are better than others. If Chinese people want to eat cats, they can change the laws here (fat chance) or go somewhere that it is legal. We don't need to tolerate every cultural difference that exists in the world, just as other cultures shouldn't be required to change for us.
As you said, "I'm not responsible for the sins of my ancestors."

What's a good term for your point of view? How about Backwoods Black Alabaman?
 
2003-07-20 08:52:11 PM  
oh yeah, in retrospect i guess it does sound like set us up the bomb, i didnt notice that, oh well, alls well that ends well, alls corrected that is corrected.

Anyhow, it's one thing to say he shouldnt electrocuted, but that was some bad shiat he did, and frankly, since a thorough asskicking isnt a legal thing to sentence a man to, i figure the next best thing is hookin him up to the chrismas lights and watch him melt like a GI JOE in hiroshima.....HOOOWAH!
 
2003-07-20 09:04:37 PM  
"Sure, you immigrants are welcome to come on over just as long as we can forcibly impose our culture on you and our views take precedence in all matters."

And if you don't like it, stay home.
 
2003-07-20 09:31:44 PM  
you know, i dont think it's a part of ANYONE'S culture to throw kittens out the window of a fast car, EVEN in china, although they eat cats (i though it was more often dogs though) they also worship them in many ways and harming them in that fashion is even bad.

I dont know of any custom where people are encouraged to harm animals in that fashion, not like it matters because it happened in America not bangledesh or china, and since we're not stepping on anyone's toes that actually could ration they have a religious or cultural gripe about not being able to fling kitty kats, then it's friggin WRONG and it's ok to be WRONG, and the guy should be tought it's not alright to do.

If i cant run naked in the streats with a 7" erection without getting thrown in the slammer, then this guy sure as hell isnt allowed to throw kittens.

(i never really got arrested for being naked and erectile in public, but i'd like to be....nake and erectile in public that is, not arrested....as i know i would and probably should be if i was).
 
2003-07-20 09:37:31 PM  
Spreadhead, I came to the US BECAUSE I liked the culture, now if other people come over to the US and try to change it, that seems wrong.
 
2003-07-20 10:23:15 PM  
You know, Farm cats regularly kill kittens because its genetic. Just like a lion killing all the cubs to get the female ready again.
 
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