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(Detroit Free Press)   Man charged with felony for killing kitten while driving. No, really   ( divider line
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2003-07-19 07:26:13 PM  

/god question
2003-07-19 07:26:23 PM  
TheFarmer, how many deer or trout have you've flung out your car's window?

People, take in account the method and apparent lack of reason for killing an animal like that piece of crap that killed the kitten.

Geez, I'll betcha if I said something nasty about Dan Ackroyd, somebody else here would pipe in right away and say I'm making a generalization of people with webbed toes...
2003-07-19 07:27:49 PM  
yeah, it's "just a cat" and the poor thing would probably have been gassed even if he'd done the right thing, but a person who can do something like this (and he did it right in broad daylight in front of everybody) is warped, and I wouldn't trust him with my kids or my animals. Or my stuff. Even if I was married to him.
2003-07-19 07:28:26 PM  
HEY! What've you got against webbed toes?!

you walked right into that one...
2003-07-19 07:29:41 PM  
sick fark..... he should farking die like the kitten did.... poor critter... imagine your child being hurled out a window...
2003-07-19 07:29:52 PM
2003-07-19 07:31:05 PM  
2003-07-19 07:31:42 PM  
I can't believe I missed this...HAHAHA Haos:
a certain someone who says the aren't a hypocrite
*just farking with ya
2003-07-19 07:34:26 PM  
Yeah me too, if your ever in Peoria, IL Bibliophile Ill buy you a nice steak dinner! I know a great place!
2003-07-19 07:36:11 PM  
me thinks fark has gone to the PETA's
2003-07-19 07:37:59 PM  
as long as it's been thrown from a plane
2003-07-19 07:39:36 PM  
I've seen kittens/dogs/anything else living have its skull split with sledge hammers, put in bags and drowned in the river, beheaded with an axe, shot to pieces with almost any gun you can imagine.. and you know what? I'd do the same to any person who tried to put me in JAIL for doing that to a frikkin animal.

/wimpy PETA's
2003-07-19 07:44:04 PM  
This, people, is why I have never taken up a "cause": you always end up pissing someone off. I guess you could call me a waffler. "Yes, I love animals. Oh yes, killing them for fun is so wrong. Uh...why..yes, those ARE leather, yes, I happen to love steak..."
2003-07-19 07:47:32 PM  
I also love animals.. they are cuddly and cute :) much like myself
2003-07-19 07:49:43 PM  
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I say we throw him to the lions...
2003-07-19 07:50:14 PM  
Thank you for the link, Bibliophile! :)
2003-07-19 07:52:52 PM  
I couldn't care if he was Jesus farking H Christ... If I was the Judge I'd go Middle East on his ass.. you know, have his nuts ripped off so he won't go near pussy again.

Seriouslty tho, few things sicken me more than someone abusing an animal that can't defend itself. Not only is it cowardice, but downright messed up as well... And I hope he does go to jail. It'll do the kid good not to be around a scumbag influence like him.
2003-07-19 07:54:46 PM  
Erm... I think I need to clarify my last statement.. When I said animals that can't defend themselves, I meant those usually kept as pets... Cows still make good eating :P
2003-07-19 07:58:45 PM  
The guy's a major prick for doing what he did, but he could get up to 4 years in prison? For a cat??? He should pay for his crime, but that's just excessive.
2003-07-19 07:59:34 PM  
Hey now you cat-haters, I said I'm a waffler, but I never said I don't love kitties, so leave the cat gladiator stuff out of here!
sky, you're welcome!
Bye all, I've got a date...
(...with my husband. Pathetic, I know.)
2003-07-19 08:02:03 PM  
I think it's okay to eat any animal that you *could* bring yourself to kill.
2003-07-19 08:05:37 PM  
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/power to the kitties!
2003-07-19 08:05:52 PM  
What the hell? Who throws a kitten out of a window?
I hope this means that more animal cruelty cases will be prosecuted like this.
2003-07-19 08:10:20 PM  
Nobody throws kittens out like that.

I hope they throw him out of a speeding 747. Or even a slow-moving one.
2003-07-19 08:22:36 PM  
while i couldn't justify throwing it out of a moving car, couldn't he just stop along side the road and let it go, same thing just not as messy.
2003-07-19 08:23:19 PM  
and he wouldn't be facing criminal charges
2003-07-19 08:42:57 PM  
I'm a cat person..

To those saying that they're just stupid animals with no minds - Think of this:
Cats have minds... we can just think in much more developed ways than them. So what happens if there comes another species which could think at more advanced levels than us in that same respect (hypothetically)? Would we deserve to die? No.
So does a cat deserve to die just because they're "lower" and "mindless"? No, they do not.
Because they have minds, just not as advanced ones. They can still think.

Anywho. I've rambled enough about that.
Cats rock. 'Nuff said.
2003-07-19 09:42:44 PM
2003-07-19 09:58:27 PM  
The guy's managed to breed before growing up. I wouldn't say this deserved jailtime, but animal shelter community service would be extremely appropriate. And if that's his idea of a suitable solution, then his wife should be questioning whether he's a good person to raise their daughter. He's definately got problems which need to be adressed in a personal way rather than legal.
2003-07-19 10:28:20 PM  
Way too many people are missing the point here. I am a meat eater. I also enjoy fishing. Do I HAVE to fish for my food? No. I enjoy fishing, and it's nice to eat something I got hold of on my own every now and then. Now, I don't eat veal because of the conditions that calves destined to become it are kept in. (read up on this one) You see, there's a few issues here that separate this guy's case from most animal killing: 1. This kitten was not killed for a useful purpose, such as food or clothing or because it was a danger to human life/ property. 2. This kitten was killed in a manner that was cruel and painful. 3. There is a very strong link between people abusing animals and later abusing human beings. 4. Domestic animals are domestic animals for a reason: they put their trust and life in your hands. This guy abused this.
I don't place a higher value on the life of non- human animals than I do for humans. If this guy had thrown a human being out the car window for absolutely no reason, then I would say he most certainly should be locked away for the rest of his life. He didn't do that. He also won't be locked up for ever. I agree that we need to concentrate on other problems in the world as well. But did killing this kitten feed some starving kid in Africa? NO! Also, we CAN work on more than one problem at a time. You know why? there's no one world problem that's more pressing than the others. So, enough of the pathetic excuses and name calling. This was a cruel, pointless act, and this guy needs to be punished.
2003-07-19 10:31:47 PM  
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2003-07-19 10:34:47 PM  
Uh, to all you "I grew up in a rural area and we just drowned/smashed/useed for feed/shoveled our unwanted kitties ::HYUCK!::" farkers out there, I grew up in the middle of farking NOWHERE Texas, and WE never, EVER drowned a kitty. We had this thing, you may have heard of it? It's called a veterinarian? And they do this thing, called spaying or neutering, and, oh my GOSH, it's so amazing, after you have it done to you kitty, they simply don't have more little kitties for you to drown. It's shocking.

Another funny thing, feral cats that keep having kittens? You can trap those, you know, and most vet schools will neuter them for free and then let you re-release them. Which, on the outside, may sound silly, until you realize euthenized feral (and I mean TRULY feral, born wild, won't EVERY be pets) cats just get replaced with NEW feral cats. Sterilzing them and re-releasing them allows the population to stabilize. You'd be surprised how well it's worked, it's worth a couple of hours of your time to NOT have ten THOUSAND homeless kitties running around your property.
2003-07-19 10:56:23 PM  
Anybody who can do this to an animal will eventually go on to harm humans. That is not theory, but fact.

That's pretty funny. When I was a kid, I used to shove firecrackers down toad throats, light them, and watch them hop a few times and go boom. It was a fun way to pass the day. I also killed a few cats in my childhood.

I have a bit more respect for life now. I haven't killed anything outside of hunting since then. I've never started a fight in my life and I've never hit a woman either. I have no desire at all to inflict pain on anything just for pleasure.

Where's your fact now? Or is it only invalid after I die never having harmed another creature since then?

Try to think a bit more before throwing out a generalization like that. People do change for various reasons.
2003-07-19 11:08:46 PM  
So? Who gives a shiat about a stupid cat? Ok, so he threw a cat out a window. Big deal. So you think it's morally justified to ruin this man's life and family over a stupid dead cat? What do you think his family is going through right now knowing their father could spend the next four years in jail? He has a farking 5 month old daughter to support you farking idiots. You think her life and future is worth ruining over a dead cat? Fark you.

God damn I hate cat lovers.
2003-07-19 11:18:27 PM  

Personally, I don't think a man who would throw a living creature out a moving vehicle is fit to be a father.
2003-07-19 11:28:16 PM  
come on people read genisis all the beasts of the field are ours to do with as we see fit. with the feral cat problem we have im all for weeding a few out. btw cats kill game birds just for the pleasure of killing them.I hunt pheasant and quail and find LOTS of the nests emptied by cats. the birds are in tact but for the needle punctures left byy their teeth and claws.

/stay cats without collars = targets
2003-07-19 11:39:51 PM  

I was speaking directly about your brash generalization, not whether or not i specifically chucked a cat out of a moving car..

to totally prove myself correct, i will throw a cat out of a moving car at the next opportune moment, to show you that someone can do that, and continue to live his life without hurting other humans.. or you can admit that you were wrong..

2003-07-19 11:45:49 PM  
This guy's a dumbass... NEVER throw an animal out of a car... Run over 10 people in a market instead. You get to go home afterwards.

/ex cat owner (died of feline lukimia), current dog owner
2003-07-19 11:46:24 PM  
Sorry, KILL 10 people.
2003-07-19 11:48:03 PM  
"Personally, I don't think a man who would throw a living creature out a moving vehicle is fit to be a father."

And who are you to decide who is fit to be a father or not?

Since when is respect for animal life a requirement to be a father?
2003-07-19 11:48:36 PM  
10 to 1 this asshat serve more time than Kobe...
2003-07-19 11:55:24 PM  
And, btw, I love cats, and I wish my two hadn't gotten out and vanished, but I've seen a couple farkers here compare them to kids. Someone even suggested that we throw this jerk's 5 month old baby out a window and see how he likes it. What the fark is wrong with you people???

Prosecute him to whatever extent of the law there is. If the community feels his sentence is unjust, move to alter the law. That's how the legal system works, and why I try to avoid breaking laws. But don't tell me that a kitten's life is as important as a baby's, because that is just farking ignorant.
2003-07-19 11:56:15 PM  
I wish *someone* could decide who should be parents and who should not - like getting a license. I've heard SO MANY farking stories lately about people killing, beating, etc. their kids. And animals.
Although not a "requirement," respect for animal life, and life in general, should be a lesson a parent teaches their children.
2003-07-20 12:01:28 AM  
Billy -
how right you are
2003-07-20 12:12:22 AM  

That's the dumbest thing I've ever heard. There is something seriously wrong with ANYBODY who would hurt an animal willfully and maliciously, including you. I'm sorry, but it's true. Respect for animal life is critical to being a worthwhile human being, not just a father.

So, you can call me "liberal" or whatever, and say I don't know what I'm talking about, and I don't know you personally, and that I shouldn't eat meat, and blah blah blah fark bullshiat, but here's the thing I've figured out in my years on this planet... There's something DEEPLY disturbing about a person who will treat a companion animal inhumanely, even if they wouldn't ordinarily hurt a human being. We're talking about willfully inflicting pain on something (be it cat, dog, pet chicken, favorite cow, etc) that has been conditioned for thousands of years to depend on us for food, shelter and protection. We, as humans, MADE them this way, and it is OUR responsibility, as humans, to not go around chucking them out of car windows at 70 mph. No, the guy didn't abuse his children, he "just" killed a kitten, but it's still abhorrent at a visceral level.

Not to mention that we, as humans, find kittens and babies cute for the EXACT same reason, in a nutshell because they have big eyes and big heads. We are emotionally pre-programmed to find these things cute and take care of them, so I DO find it disturbing at some intangible level that this guy has a kid at home... Nature made baby things cute so they'd be more likely to survive (..less likely to get tossed out of cars...), and it didn't work for this kitten, so I wonder how long it'll work for his kid...

Egads, I can't believe I had to explain that to adult. I need a cookie...
2003-07-20 12:41:53 AM  
hook him up the chrismas lights and light him up! (that was a metaphor)
2003-07-20 12:44:50 AM  
Haos has a brain; all you other farking farkers are fools!
SARS, or severe acute respiratory syndrome, moved from civet cats eaten by people in China.
A friend of mine almost died because of a cat scratch: 36% of cats are carriers of toxoplasmosis. If this was 1950 he would be dead!! Now what is more important, a disease carrying creature or a human?
Let us Kill All Cats for Christ sakes!!
2003-07-20 12:46:29 AM  
Is that anything like set us up the bomb?

/all your base belong to us
2003-07-20 12:51:38 AM  
"That's the dumbest thing I've ever heard. There is something seriously wrong with ANYBODY who would hurt an animal willfully and maliciously, including you. I'm sorry, but it's true. Respect for animal life is critical to being a worthwhile human being, not just a father."

No it's not. Little boys being cruel to animals is quite common. Yet, the majority grow up and have productful uneventful lives. I think every other boy I knew while growing up had at least one cat kill to his name. None that I know of have ever committed a crime, gone to jail, or been convicted or even accused of being cruel to animals or abusing people.

"We, as humans, MADE them this way, and it is OUR responsibility, as humans, to not go around chucking them out of car windows at 70 mph."

What's this "we" shiat white man? I didn't breed them nor make them. No living thing (human or animal) outside my family is my responsibility. I'm not responsible for the sins of my ancestors. Even if I was, I don't recall many Native Americans breeding cats for pets. That was a western and middle eastern culture thing. Regardless, species come and go all the time in the grand scheme of Earth's biosphere. If it wasn't for humans these things wouldn't be alive in the first place.

"Not to mention that we, as humans, find kittens and babies cute for the EXACT same reason, in a nutshell because they have big eyes and big heads. We are emotionally pre-programmed to find these things cute and take care of them..."

I don't find them cute nor do I feel the need or obligation to take care of them. That puts your "pre-programmed" theory to rest. But, I have a greater respect for life these days and wouldn't kill one unless it was for food.

I grew up on a farm, I don't get attached to animals that might be food tomorrow. And, yes, I have eaten cat as well as dog. You would be amazed at what's on the menu in various countries. I wonder where this "responsibility" and "pre-programming" is there? Perhaps the proper term you're grasping for is "conditioning."


Hindus feel even stronger about cows than you do about cats yet they're just hamburger, a jacket, and a pair of shoes to us. Does that put it in perspective for you?



2003-07-20 12:55:34 AM  

all your base arebelong to us...sheesh I hate typing
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