Why the tea party was successful was they let ordinary people be involved in the political process. Right now, if you wanted to volunteer for the Democrats or Republicans, they wouldn't let you do it because there is no election going on. They won't let you go into the office and do work for free, they won't let you canvass and they won't let you work events. This is because ordinary people that want to volunteer for things just in general are farking crazy for the most part. If there isn't an election, then there isn't a need for them to let people in.

Even when there is an election, most of the time you're stuck pan handling for signatures or money. It is miserable, thankless work that nobody wants to do unless they are super lame or think it is going to change something. The only one of those "jobs" that actually has an impact is driving old people to the polls.

The tea party actually let people organize things and let people feel important. That makes a large group of people actually want to get involved and get things going. You can all clearly see the downside to that.

Progressives don't *want* to be sign-toting drones - it's contrary to the idea of thinking for one's self.

/better idea is to focus on maximizing the number of voters in any election
//higher turnout historically = more democrats in office
///more democrats in office = can actually make some progress in this country

gameshowhost: Progressives don't *want* to be sign-toting drones - it's contrary to the idea of thinking for one's self.

/better idea is to focus on maximizing the number of voters in any election
//higher turnout historically = more democrats in office
///more democrats in office = can actually make some progress in this country

This is not necessarily true. Democratic politicians are not necessarily "progressive" Nor are all Republicans "Conservative"

If everyone would moderate somewhat, the country would be in much better shape.

The ACLU fights for citizens who have had their Constitutional rights trampled by big government. How is that not conservative?

WhyteRaven74: GAT_00: We already have a bunch of nuts on the left nobody takes seriously. They're called the Green Party.

Thing is they can actually articulate a point and not just spout off slogans.

"Fire Bad" is not exactly articulate.

FireBreathingLiberal: Progressives aren't particularly found of playing "Follow the Leader".

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I'm found of your usage.

The First Four Black Sabbath Albums: Ooof, I wish there weren't so many tl;drers on Fark. TFA is basically about how we need an anti-big business movement rather than an anti-big government movement. We need to go after the big businesses, and TFA laid out how amazingly simple it is. I think the left and right can get behind this. For me, taking down giant corporations is a cause worth dying for.

I'm not interested in taking down Big Business. I just want the government to do its job in curbing the worst excesses of capitalism. The markets are not rational and when fear gives way to greed, we get what we had in 2008. Obviously, too much regulation is bad in that it stifles innovation and growth, but the current Republican idea of "We just need to do what we were doing in the years leading up to the collapse, only harder" is utterly insane.

Darth_Lukecash: gameshowhost: Progressives don't *want* to be sign-toting drones - it's contrary to the idea of thinking for one's self.

/better idea is to focus on maximizing the number of voters in any election
//higher turnout historically = more democrats in office
///more democrats in office = can actually make some progress in this country

This is not necessarily true. Democratic politicians are not necessarily "progressive" Nor are all Republicans "Conservative"

If everyone would moderate somewhat, the country would be in much better shape.

I was merely generalizing... I agree that neither side is monolithic.

I think the larger problem is that constituent needs aren't met since hardly anyone farking votes *when it matters the most*. ~20% turnout in primaries... not a real mystery that we get hardliners from both sides, since the parties' bases are essentially driving who will win the primaries.

But anyhow... ATM, our country is represented by a conservative/corporatist government than is way farther to "the right" (for lack of a better term) than We the People actually are. Making both sides move "closer to the center" doesn't eliminate the underlying problem of corporate influence on the democratic process.

/i'm inferring what you mean by 'if everyone would moderate somewhat'
//if i'm off on that, feel free to correct me :)
/we really need to completely overhaul the voting process - What would democratic elections look like (new window; WARNING: POTENTIALLY LIBERAL STUFF)

2wolves: FireBreathingLiberal: Progressives aren't particularly found of playing "Follow the Leader".

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I'm found of your usage.

Spelling Nazis always enhance a thread.

Lionel Mandrake: 2wolves: FireBreathingLiberal: Progressives aren't particularly found of playing "Follow the Leader".

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I'm found of your usage.

Spelling Nazis always enhance a thread.

Go blow a goat. If you can't spell you can't sell.

2wolves: Lionel Mandrake: 2wolves: FireBreathingLiberal: Progressives aren't particularly found of playing "Follow the Leader".

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I'm found of your usage.

Spelling Nazis always enhance a thread.

Go blow a goat. If you can't spell you can't sell.

Oh, you're a thin-skinned reactionary, too. You must be the life of the party.

Misspelling a word doesn't automatically invalidate a point, however much you disagree with it.

Excuse me: ...however much with which you disagree.

Lionel Mandrake: 2wolves: Lionel Mandrake: 2wolves: FireBreathingLiberal: Progressives aren't particularly found of playing "Follow the Leader".

Found?

I'm found of your usage.

Spelling Nazis always enhance a thread.

Go blow a goat. If you can't spell you can't sell.

Oh, you're a thin-skinned reactionary, too. You must be the life of the party.

Misspelling a word doesn't automatically invalidate a point, however much you disagree with it.

Excuse me: ...however much with which you disagree.

This are why liberals can't get shiat done.

djkutch: Lionel Mandrake: 2wolves: Lionel Mandrake: 2wolves: FireBreathingLiberal: Progressives aren't particularly found of playing "Follow the Leader".

Found?

I'm found of your usage.

Spelling Nazis always enhance a thread.

Go blow a goat. If you can't spell you can't sell.

Oh, you're a thin-skinned reactionary, too. You must be the life of the party.

Misspelling a word doesn't automatically invalidate a point, however much you disagree with it.

Excuse me: ...however much with which you disagree.

This are why liberals can't get shiat done.

Ready to revert to slavery, child labor, no vote for women, 40 hour week, polio vaccine, man on the moon, tolerating dicks like you...

Lionel Mandrake: 2wolves: Lionel Mandrake: 2wolves: FireBreathingLiberal: Progressives aren't particularly found of playing "Follow the Leader".

Found?
I'm found of your usage.

Spelling Nazis always enhance a thread.

Go blow a goat. If you can't spell you can't sell.

Oh, you're a thin-skinned reactionary, too. You must be the life of the party.

Misspelling a word doesn't automatically invalidate a point, however much you disagree with it.

Excuse me: ...however much with which you disagree.


I find your argument positively nu-ka-leer. It may almost be said that you have achieved "Mission Accomplished" status.

djkutch: This are why liberals can't get shiat done.

Please expand on this theory.

2wolves: I find your argument positively . It may almost be said that you have achieved "Mission Accomplished" status.

My aegument that even imperfect spellers are capable of making good points is "nu-ka-leer"? You have an amazing, even ridiculous standard spelling and its relation to valid points.

Lionel Mandrake: 2wolves: I find your argument positively . It may almost be said that you have achieved "Mission Accomplished" status.

My aegument that even imperfect spellers are capable of making good points is "nu-ka-leer"? You have an amazing, even ridiculous standard spelling and its relation to valid points.

Oh, Holy shiat!! I made a spelling error! Everything I've said is automatically invalid!!1! I take back every thing about what you said, you're totally right, because you notice the squiggly red lines better than I do!!

2wolves: Ready to revert to slavery, child labor, no vote for women, 40 hour week, polio vaccine, man on the moon, tolerating dicks like you...

Go ask Gary which side I'm on 3wolves shirt guy.

Farking grammar libs will destroy us all.

djkutch: Farking grammar libs will destroy us all.

EXPLAIN HOW

Unless one of the steps is reanimating Teddy Roosevelt, then the plan is doomed to fail.

Lionel Mandrake: djkutch: Farking grammar libs will destroy us all.

EXPLAIN HOW

Well, let's see here. Subject of TFA: Progressive Tea Party. Amusingly ironic.

Comments: YOU CAN'T FARKING SPELL YOU RETARD. IT WOULD BE BEST IF YOU WERE UNDER HOUSE ARREST WHERE YOU CAN'T POSE A DANGER TO SOCIETY.

The First Four Black Sabbath Albums: For me, taking down giant corporations is a cause worth dying for.

Radical lefty here. What have you done for the cause that put your life at risk?

Lionel Mandrake: 2wolves: I find your argument positively . It may almost be said that you have achieved "Mission Accomplished" status.

My aegument that even imperfect spellers are capable of making good points is "nu-ka-leer"? You have an amazing, even ridiculous standard spelling and its relation to valid points.

Dear sir, you possess a memory that stretches back no more than twenty three months. May providence that your spirit.

"May providence that your spirit."

take your spirit.

FTFM

djkutch: Lionel Mandrake: djkutch: Farking grammar libs will destroy us all.

EXPLAIN HOW

Well, let's see here. Subject of TFA: Progressive Tea Party. Amusingly ironic.

Comments: YOU CAN'T FARKING SPELL YOU RETARD. IT WOULD BE BEST IF YOU WERE UNDER HOUSE ARREST WHERE YOU CAN'T POSE A DANGER TO SOCIETY.

You either didn't read or didn't understand the article or my posts. You are intellectually challenged.

BTW, I asked you to explain how poor spelling invalidates an argument. You not only failed, but you failed to even try.

Pathetic.

2wolves: Lionel Mandrake: 2wolves: I find your argument positively . It may almost be said that you have achieved "Mission Accomplished" status.

My aegument that even imperfect spellers are capable of making good points is "nu-ka-leer"? You have an amazing, even ridiculous standard spelling and its relation to valid points.

Dear sir, you possess a memory that stretches back no more than twenty three months. May providence that your spirit.

Explain.

If you can.

Can we take a coffee break now?

2wolves: FireBreathingLiberal: Progressives aren't particularly found of playing "Follow the Leader".

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I'm found of your Sausage.


There. That should clear up what you meant.

THREADJACK******

Convinced my wife that Gay Marraige should be legal.

They called themselves UK Uncut

Hey now, let's leave out the anti-semitic stuff, ok?

One Bad Apple: 2wolves: FireBreathingLiberal: Progressives aren't particularly found of playing "Follow the Leader".

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I'm found of your Sausage.


There. That should clear up what you meant.

Edited quoting? Up may be a pseudo-conservative.