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2011-02-03 01:49:16 PM  
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2011-02-03 01:49:29 PM  

Pincy: Janusdog: Pincy: You know, a real Pro-Lifer wouldn't allow for any exceptions whatsoever. That human baby fetus deserves to live regardless of the circumstances under which it was conceived. It's not the human baby fetus' fault that it is a rape baby or incest baby or whatever. Why are Pro-Lifers so wiling to sacrifice the lives of human baby fetuses for political correctness?

It's not a baby. Stop trying to make it one.

I guess I should have used the tag today.


godammit. The should have said "I guess I should have used the SARCASM tag today".
 
2011-02-03 01:49:42 PM  
When is the anti-choice crowd going to realize that laws will not make abortions magically vanish from the face of the earth? It's only going to force women underground to seek a more horrific and traumatizing experience than it already is.

My bet is on never. Votes is votes after all.
 
2011-02-03 01:50:27 PM  
The party of personal freedom and hard-nosed economics: Spending time trying to get more and more government interference in personal decisions and ignoring the struggling economy.

And a hopelessly deluded segment of the American populace will go for it every time.
 
2011-02-03 01:50:32 PM  

keylock71: meat0918: So are they going to focus on JOBS now?

Any day now... right after they tackle the real problems in this country like funding for NRP and Planned Parenthood.

Besides, empty gestures and meaningless votes are far more useful to the GOP than actually working on stuff that needs fixing.


They should read the Constitution to an empty chamber again. That was awesome.

ultraholland: HotWingConspiracy: They are fumbling so hard right now.

and their supporters won't even notice


LULZ, shuddup libtards, adults are in charge now! No more shoving soshilism down our throats for you! FACE!
 
2011-02-03 01:51:09 PM  
Subby said RAPE RAPE RAPE RAPE RAPE RAPE RAPE RAPE RAPE RAPE RAPE RAPE RAPE RAPE RAPE RAPE RAPE RAPE RAPE RAPE RAPE RAPE RAPE RAPE RAPE RAPE RAPE RAPE RAPE RAPE RAPE RAPE RAPE RAPE RAPE RAPE RAPE RAPE RAPE RAPE RAPE RAPE RAPE RAPE

/Carrier lost and all that.
 
2011-02-03 01:51:24 PM  
Folks, hold your horses, they're going to get to jobs. They just got more important things to take care of first. Like redefining rape. And reading the Consitution aloud. And holding a question and answer session with Scalia. And leaving Puerto Rico out of Congressional Voting.

Once the important stuff is taken care of, then they'll bring us the jobs they promised. You don't get desert first.
 
2011-02-03 01:51:45 PM  

Pincy: And that's why the Tea Party needed to form.


Huh... I thought they formed in order to get a group rate on Rascal Insurance and Gastric Bypass Surgeries.
 
2011-02-03 01:52:21 PM  

Car_Ramrod: "The word forcible will be replaced with the original language from the Hyde Amendment," Jeff Sagnip, spokesman for bill sponsor Chris Smith (R-N.J.), said.

Wait, so what is the point of this bill? It is my understanding there are already rules against using federal funds for abortion (except rape & incest). What the hell does this bill do, other than say they're going to keep doing what they've been doing? That's useful.

WHAR JOBS, REPUBLICANS? WHAR?


It inserts "forcible" into the exemption for rape. 12 year old raped by her priest because it's God will? Not forcible rape unless he hits or forcibly restrained her. Raped while passed out? fark you, that's not forcible rape.

Apparently, the simple fact that if it is "rape" it is non-consensual wasn't enough. Damn harlots shouldn't have been out of sight of their fathers while unmarried, anyway.
 
2011-02-03 01:52:59 PM  
I'm pro-abortion but I'll make a deal with the republicans/pro-lifers.

As soon as the following items are addressed I'll vote to make abortion illegal.

- The deficit
- Affordable and available healthcare
- Trade Deficit
- Environmental destruction
- Relations with foreign countries
- Corruption in government
- Reducing governments size

until then STFU and GBTW
 
2011-02-03 01:53:22 PM  

Pincy: And that's why the Tea Party needed to form.


Tea Party is a bad name for them. I don't think of the Boston Tea Party and plucky American individualism when I think "tea party" at all. I think of stuffy intellectuals discussing matters of the day in a room full of leather-bound books.

"Nnnyess, Stanley, I believe our government has grown to a rather exorbitant size vastly exceeding its effectiveness."
 
2011-02-03 01:53:40 PM  

ultraholland: HotWingConspiracy: They are fumbling so hard right now.

and their supporters won't even notice


Goddamnit, facebook, where's the 'like' button?
 
2011-02-03 01:54:07 PM  
Why do these idiots continue to fight this.

Abortion is legal in this country (for almost 40 years). It should remain legal.

These are the same folks who cut everything that an underprivileged child might need to become a healthy successful member of society.

Why don't these holy rollers open state of the art orphanages or take in the unwanted children ? The reason is they do not really care about kids. They just want to force their morals / worldview on others.
 
2011-02-03 01:54:29 PM  
Winterwhile meat0918 asks: So are they going to focus on JOBS now?

Sorry... too appropriate and yet too lazy to shoop a stupid comic.
 
2011-02-03 01:54:32 PM  
So they're not going to repeal the job raping kill bill? or the bill raping kill job. . er head job raping . . . WTF are they doing?
 
2011-02-03 01:54:46 PM  
www.badhouseontheweb.com


These guys have something to say about rapin'
 
2011-02-03 01:54:59 PM  

Pincy: You know, a real Pro-Lifer wouldn't allow for any exceptions whatsoever. That human baby fetus deserves to live regardless of the circumstances under which it was conceived. It's not the human baby fetus' fault that it is a rape baby or incest baby or whatever. Why are Pro-Lifers so wiling to sacrifice the lives of human baby fetuses for political correctness?


It's because it's not actually about fetuses being human beings.

It's about punishing women for being sluts by forcing them to carry unwanted babies to term. See, a rape victim isn't a slut, so they shouldn't be punished in such a fashion. This is also why a lot of these sorts of folks are against contraception.
 
2011-02-03 01:55:13 PM  

Killer Cars: Pincy: And that's why the Tea Party needed to form.

Tea Party is a bad name for them. I don't think of the Boston Tea Party and plucky American individualism when I think "tea party" at all. I think of stuffy intellectuals discussing matters of the day in a room full of leather-bound books.

"Nnnyess, Stanley, I believe our government has grown to a rather exorbitant size vastly exceeding its effectiveness."


Agreed. That is why the term "Tea Baggers" is much more appropriate.
 
2011-02-03 01:56:32 PM  
You have 2 days to get a rape kit, then if you wait three days to say you've been raped then you have to have the baby according to Republicans.
 
2011-02-03 01:56:48 PM  

Geotpf: Pincy: You know, a real Pro-Lifer wouldn't allow for any exceptions whatsoever. That human baby fetus deserves to live regardless of the circumstances under which it was conceived. It's not the human baby fetus' fault that it is a rape baby or incest baby or whatever. Why are Pro-Lifers so wiling to sacrifice the lives of human baby fetuses for political correctness?

It's because it's not actually about fetuses being human beings.

It's about punishing women for being sluts by forcing them to carry unwanted babies to term. See, a rape victim isn't a slut, so they shouldn't be punished in such a fashion. This is also why a lot of these sorts of folks are against contraception.


Finally, someone who gets my sense of humor.
 
2011-02-03 01:57:15 PM  
This was pretty scary considering virtually ALL developmentally disabled women receive their health care from tax dollars. According to this if they were raped they wouldn't be able to get an abortion if it wasn't 'forcible' rape, not being able to consent or testify against anyway or anything else wouldn't be enough. Mental functioning of a 2 year old? Too bad, you didnt fight hard enough.
 
2011-02-03 01:58:29 PM  
Well, they HAVE made a case where all underage pregnancy gets a paid-for abortion. I think that was the motivation for the "forcible" clause.

Hmm, what if a female teacher is pregnant because SHE had sex (statrape) with a male student?

"if the pregnancy occurred because the pregnant female was the subject of an act of forcible rape"

Hey, wow. It sounds like they covered that! She's not "the subject" of rape there.
 
2011-02-03 01:58:34 PM  
halfmoth.com
 
2011-02-03 01:59:07 PM  
Although we heard no more about the Finch family from Aunt Alexandra, we heard plenty from the town. On Saturdays, armed with our nickels, when Jem permitted me to accompany him (he was now positively allergic to my presence when in public), we would squirm our way through sweating sidewalk crowds and sometimes hear, "There's his chillun," or, "Yonder's some Finches." Turning to face our accusers, we would see only a couple of farmers studying the enema bags in the Mayco Drugstore window. Or two dumpy countrywomen in straw hats sitting in a Hoover cart.

"They c'n go loose and rape up the countryside for all of 'em who
run this county care," was one obscure observation we met head on from a skinny gentleman when he passed us. Which reminded me that I had a question to ask Atticus.

"What's rape?" I asked him that night.

Atticus looked around from behind his paper. He was in his chair by the window. As we grew older, Jem and I thought it generous to allow Atticus thirty minutes to himself after supper.

He sighed, and said rape was carnal knowledge of a female by force and without consent.


"Well if that's all it is why did Calpurnia dry me up when I asked her what it was?"


---

Why do Republicans hate great American literature?
 
2011-02-03 01:59:12 PM  

Pincy: Pincy: Janusdog: Pincy: You know, a real Pro-Lifer wouldn't allow for any exceptions whatsoever. That human baby fetus deserves to live regardless of the circumstances under which it was conceived. It's not the human baby fetus' fault that it is a rape baby or incest baby or whatever. Why are Pro-Lifers so wiling to sacrifice the lives of human baby fetuses for political correctness?

It's not a baby. Stop trying to make it one.

I guess I should have used the tag today.

godammit. The should have said "I guess I should have used the SARCASM tag today".


Sorry. You can't ever tell these days. Sooo much wharrgarbl.
 
2011-02-03 01:59:12 PM  

thurstonxhowell: Car_Ramrod: "The word forcible will be replaced with the original language from the Hyde Amendment," Jeff Sagnip, spokesman for bill sponsor Chris Smith (R-N.J.), said.

Wait, so what is the point of this bill? It is my understanding there are already rules against using federal funds for abortion (except rape & incest). What the hell does this bill do, other than say they're going to keep doing what they've been doing? That's useful.

WHAR JOBS, REPUBLICANS? WHAR?

It inserts "forcible" into the exemption for rape. 12 year old raped by her priest because it's God will? Not forcible rape unless he hits or forcibly restrained her. Raped while passed out? fark you, that's not forcible rape.

Apparently, the simple fact that if it is "rape" it is non-consensual wasn't enough. Damn harlots shouldn't have been out of sight of their fathers while unmarried, anyway.


But they removed that language. There are no alterations to the language of the Hyde Amendment. This bill literally does nothing. Why are they even proposing it?

It's been a goddamn month, Republicans, whatcha got for us? What do you have to show all the people that voted you in after you promised to fix the economy as your #2 priority (#1 is making Obama a 1-term president, which doesn't look like it's happening). Do something other than meaningless, posturing nonsense. You got the big boy pants on now, don't just sit there and crap in 'em.
 
2011-02-03 01:59:21 PM  

meat0918: So are they going to focus on JOBS now?


This is why Republicans in Michigan are getting mad at Governor Snyder. When he was elected, they were all like "Good, now we can work on conservative social values!" and he was all like "Wait, jobs first!" and they're all like "lol whut?"
 
2011-02-03 01:59:25 PM  
Killer Cars: a Party is a bad name for them. I don't think of the Boston Tea Party and plucky American individualism when I think "tea party" at all. I think of stuffy intellectuals discussing matters of the day in a room full of leather-bound books.

That's funny. I think of a bunch of whiny little children living in a fantasy world.

"More tea, Mr Snuggly? It's made without any socialism! Yes, Thank you Princess Sparkles, I would love more tea. If only we paid fewer taxes, we could afford crumpets too."
 
2011-02-03 02:00:00 PM  
Mentally handicapped rape victims have been gaming this system for too long. No more free abortions for mentally handicapped rape victims!
 
2011-02-03 02:00:56 PM  

Car_Ramrod: thurstonxhowell: Car_Ramrod: "The word forcible will be replaced with the original language from the Hyde Amendment," Jeff Sagnip, spokesman for bill sponsor Chris Smith (R-N.J.), said.

Wait, so what is the point of this bill? It is my understanding there are already rules against using federal funds for abortion (except rape & incest). What the hell does this bill do, other than say they're going to keep doing what they've been doing? That's useful.

WHAR JOBS, REPUBLICANS? WHAR?

It inserts "forcible" into the exemption for rape. 12 year old raped by her priest because it's God will? Not forcible rape unless he hits or forcibly restrained her. Raped while passed out? fark you, that's not forcible rape.

Apparently, the simple fact that if it is "rape" it is non-consensual wasn't enough. Damn harlots shouldn't have been out of sight of their fathers while unmarried, anyway.

But they removed that language. There are no alterations to the language of the Hyde Amendment. This bill literally does nothing. Why are they even proposing it?


Um, Pence actually DOES a lot -- it will make your healthcare more expensive if your plan includes abortion, which 75% of them do. Not if you USE abortion, just if it's an OPTION. So basically these asstards want to force you to drop plans with abortion as an option.

Free market, eh? God these people are so disgusting.
 
2011-02-03 02:01:04 PM  

tortilla burger: By changing to rape-rape, wait a few years and they'll bring back rape classic


I read that as Beck rape classic.

I think that came out in 1990.
 
2011-02-03 02:01:14 PM  

halfmoth: halfmoth.com


I knew a kid for years throughout school named Mike Rape. By jr high he began pronouncing it ra-pay. Perhaps he went in on the appliance biz.
 
2011-02-03 02:01:49 PM  
The 112th Congress convened on 1/3. Today is 2/3. Can we get a month in review? I'd like to see a list of bills proposed by the Republican'ts so far this term.
 
2011-02-03 02:02:51 PM  

Pincy: You know, a real Pro-Lifer wouldn't allow for any exceptions whatsoever. That human baby fetus deserves to live regardless of the circumstances under which it was conceived. It's not the human baby fetus' fault that it is a rape baby or incest baby or whatever. Why are Pro-Lifers so wiling to sacrifice the lives of human baby fetuses for political correctness?


Stupid question.

Stupid answer: Because politicians (even devoutly religious ones) are still politicians
 
2011-02-03 02:03:23 PM  

sattizahn: In my state, women can never rape by legal definition.

I kinda wish they would change that.


Wow. The GOP really does want control of the womb. Not letting women rape. This is an outrage.
 
2011-02-03 02:04:11 PM  

InmanRoshi: .... And leaving Puerto Rico out of Congressional Voting.

Once the important stuff is taken care of, then they'll bring us the jobs they promised. You don't get desert first.


Pretty sure Puerto Rico voted not to be a state.

/lives in an organized, unincorporated United States territory
//doesn't get to vote for Pres
///legal to drink beer & drive
 
2011-02-03 02:04:31 PM  
So one might say, the Republican Party is trying to turn a rape into a murder.

dun dun dunnnnnnnnnn
 
2011-02-03 02:05:37 PM  
This is the rape thread, right?
 
2011-02-03 02:05:41 PM  

InmanRoshi: Folks, hold your horses, they're going to get to jobs. They just got more important things to take care of first. Like redefining rape. And reading the Consitution aloud. And holding a question and answer session with Scalia. And leaving Puerto Rico out of Congressional Voting.

Once the important stuff is taken care of, then they'll bring us the jobs they promised. You don't get desert first.


Pointless saber rattling DOES invigorate the average over 60 GOP voter more than actual results, so...there ya go.
 
2011-02-03 02:05:57 PM  
It should only be illegal if they be climbing in yo' windows and snatchin yo' people up.
 
2011-02-03 02:06:07 PM  

Lumpmoose: So the GOP was going to restrict federal funding of baby murder to a more limited set of conditions, but now they've decided to loosen it up a bit. In other words, the GOP has just expanded their opinion of when federal tax dollars can be used to pay for baby murder.

Makes you wonder if ain't quite genuine baby murder after all...


It's simple: File a police report that a rape occurred (any kind of rape), cooperate with the investigation or pay for the abortion yourself.

But it's logic like yours that's going to let death panels flourish. "Hey, if the Death Panel says it's okay to kill him, it must not be genuine murder after all...."
 
2011-02-03 02:06:57 PM  
A Little Old Lady's perspective:

Margaret & Helen (pops)

/I love these women
 
2011-02-03 02:06:58 PM  

Janusdog: Car_Ramrod:

But they removed that language. There are no alterations to the language of the Hyde Amendment. This bill literally does nothing. Why are they even proposing it?

Um, Pence actually DOES a lot -- it will make your healthcare more expensive if your plan includes abortion, which 75% of them do. Not if you USE abortion, just if it's an OPTION. So basically these asstards want to force you to drop plans with abortion as an option.

Free market, eh? God these people are so disgusting.


Is that because people can't use their HSAs for those plans? And can't deduct costs of the insurance from their taxes? Is that new in this bill?

If so, I stand corrected. You are doing something, Republicans. You are raising taxes on people and limiting their purchase choices. Kudos.
 
2011-02-03 02:09:07 PM  

HellRaisingHoosier: So one might say, the Republican Party is trying to turn a rape... into a murder.

dun dun dunnnnnnnnnn "YEEEEEAAAAAAAHHHHH!"


FTFY (new window)
 
2011-02-03 02:09:21 PM  

Pincy: You know, a real Pro-Lifer wouldn't allow for any exceptions whatsoever. That human baby fetus deserves to live regardless of the circumstances under which it was conceived. It's not the human baby fetus' fault that it is a rape baby or incest baby or whatever. Why are Pro-Lifers so wiling to sacrifice the lives of human baby fetuses for political correctness?


Enough stupid people have latched onto this issue that it's been a valuable wedge issue to keep them out of actual important stuff for half a century after the matter was already resolved.

This issue is too politically useful... while I doubt there will every be a serious, concerted effort to revert the law (because most republicans don't want to return to the days of abortion being a back-alley thing, either) they'll keep letting the representatives that are serious repeatedly have enough rope to hang themselves on the issue until it becomes literally impossible to defend the debate.

Basically, I'm guessing this squabbling will finally stop only when pretty much all births are from artificial wombs anyhow and no one aborts at all (because they're reversibly sterile from puberty thanks to medicine), and the new hot-button issue is whether uplifted monkeys and cybernetic organisms are granted rights under our constitution.
 
2011-02-03 02:10:12 PM  
Soup4Bonnie 2011-02-03 01:47:40 PM GAT_00: You know, you'd think they would have learned from the Franken Rape Amendment, but the GOP charged right into an idiotic argument of their own making on rape again. Why not? It's not as if their voting base is ever going to notice or care. Hell, some of them support these wastes of time. There's no down side for them.
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In south dakota in 2006, they put up a referendum on the ballot to make it illegal in the state to have an abortion for ANY reason. Absolutely no exceptions at all.

And it got 40% of the vote.

These people are not sane. They are maniacs.
 
2011-02-03 02:10:40 PM  

InmanRoshi: Folks, hold your horses, they're going to get to jobs. They just got more important things to take care of first. Like redefining rape. And reading the Consitution aloud. And holding a question and answer session with Scalia. And leaving Puerto Rico out of Congressional Voting.

Once the important stuff is taken care of, then they'll bring us the jobs they promised. You don't get desert first.


well to be fair, work is performed during rape, so technically, the GOP is opening the free market up for more work which creates jobs. Jobs in the rape industry, as a matter of fact.
 
2011-02-03 02:11:02 PM  

HellRaisingHoosier: So one might say, the Republican Party is trying to turn a rape into a murder.

dun dun dunnnnnnnnnn


You're late.
 
2011-02-03 02:11:07 PM  

austin_millbarge: Etchy333: hillbillypharmacist: You'll burn in hell.

Or they just saved a talking point they'll use in 2012. Because the pro-life people will fall for it every time, and all they need is the vote.

I've been preaching THIS for years.

/it's like moths to a flame


I swear Fox News has something that blips on the screen and makes their viewers forget all previous activity.

Nobody could possibly be so stupid to not see the blatant hypocrisy and double standards of the Republican party and their propaganda outlet.
 
2011-02-03 02:11:16 PM  

Mr Rusty Shackleford: halfmoth: halfmoth.com

I knew a kid for years throughout school named Mike Rape. By jr high he began pronouncing it ra-pay. Perhaps he went in on the appliance biz.


My husband went to school with Katie Hoar.
 
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