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(Washington Post)   A reading of Rumsfeld's new autobiography reveals new insights into a man older and wiser after years of reflection, a man who can now admit his mistakes and still say with certainty that he was right   (washingtonpost.com) divider line 190
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2011-02-03 09:20:28 AM  
AND..... I still think I like this guy.
 
2011-02-03 09:26:52 AM  
The sheer audacity of these people amazes me. It's no wonder so many psychopaths succeed in politics.
 
2011-02-03 09:34:30 AM  
You go to press with the made up facts you have, not the real facts you may wish to have.
 
2011-02-03 09:42:13 AM  
FTA:

Sounding characteristically tough and defiant in the 800-page autobiography "Known and Unknown," Rumsfeld remains largely unapologetic about his overall handling of the Iraq conflict and concludes that the war has been worth the costs.

Unbelievable. Truly remarkable.

Thousands of dead US soldiers, hundreds of thousands of dead Iraqis and over half a trillion dollars spent. All for zero WMDs and the execution of Saddam Hussein.

And to Rumsfeld, it was worth the costs.

Sir, you can f*ck yourself with a rusty razor.
 
2011-02-03 11:03:11 AM  
look, you can expect the man to harbor a little guilt for a few days, maybe a few weeks. i doubt longer than a few months.
 
2011-02-03 11:17:42 AM  
Rumsfeld and the hero tag should never intersect, even ironically. Never.
 
2011-02-03 11:18:05 AM  

Rev.K: FTA:

Sounding characteristically tough and defiant in the 800-page autobiography "Known and Unknown," Rumsfeld remains largely unapologetic about his overall handling of the Iraq conflict and concludes that the war has been worth the costs.

Unbelievable. Truly remarkable.

Thousands of dead US soldiers, hundreds of thousands of dead Iraqis and over half a trillion dollars spent. All for zero WMDs and the execution of Saddam Hussein.

And to Rumsfeld, it was worth the costs.

Sir, you can f*ck yourself with a rusty razor.


Haha, liberal make-believe again, I love it. I can imagine your outrage if you were alive in the 1940's when we went after Hitler.
 
2011-02-03 11:19:24 AM  

Rev.K: Unbelievable. Truly remarkable.

Thousands of dead US soldiers, hundreds of thousands of dead Iraqis and over half a trillion dollars spent. All for zero WMDs and the execution of Saddam Hussein.

And to Rumsfeld, it was worth the costs.

Sir, you can f*ck yourself with a rusty razor.


Of course its worth it. He got to pat himself on the back for his lean and mean army strategy and hold press conferences where he could be witty. How Iraq actually turned out, specifically whether an occupation could have actually been planned for is irrelevant. Oh, and the standing desk. He stands a lot so that's cool.
 
2011-02-03 11:19:28 AM  
he's a neocon who has cost this country dearly for participating in a lie. and for his incompetence with his naive approach to the invasion. 6 weeks maybe as long as 6 months. the oil money will pay for it. we know where the WMDS are.
 
2011-02-03 11:20:01 AM  

Thunderpipes: Rev.K: FTA:

Sounding characteristically tough and defiant in the 800-page autobiography "Known and Unknown," Rumsfeld remains largely unapologetic about his overall handling of the Iraq conflict and concludes that the war has been worth the costs.

Unbelievable. Truly remarkable.

Thousands of dead US soldiers, hundreds of thousands of dead Iraqis and over half a trillion dollars spent. All for zero WMDs and the execution of Saddam Hussein.

And to Rumsfeld, it was worth the costs.

Sir, you can f*ck yourself with a rusty razor.

Haha, liberal make-believe again, I love it. I can imagine your outrage if you were alive in the 1940's when we went after Hitler.


How about the 1930s when we built Hilter through American industrialists and money?
 
2011-02-03 11:20:32 AM  

Rev.K:
Thousands of dead US soldiers, hundreds of thousands of dead Iraqis and over half a trillion dollars spent. All for zero WMDs and the execution of Saddam Hussein.

And to Rumsfeld, it was worth the costs.

Sir, you can f*ck yourself with a rusty razor.


But he made mad money for the military industrial complex, which was his goal.

Mission Accomplished!
 
2011-02-03 11:21:15 AM  

bartink: Rev.K: Unbelievable. Truly remarkable.

Thousands of dead US soldiers, hundreds of thousands of dead Iraqis and over half a trillion dollars spent. All for zero WMDs and the execution of Saddam Hussein.

And to Rumsfeld, it was worth the costs.

Sir, you can f*ck yourself with a rusty razor.

Of course its worth it. He got to pat himself on the back for his lean and mean army strategy and hold press conferences where he could be witty. How Iraq actually turned out, specifically whether an occupation could have actually been planned for is irrelevant. Oh, and the standing desk. He stands a lot so that's cool.


Plus he got to fire an uppity yellow guy who lost half a foot in Vietnam.

/Obama hired Shinseki back.
 
2011-02-03 11:21:45 AM  

TheShavingofOccam123: Thunderpipes: Rev.K: FTA:

Sounding characteristically tough and defiant in the 800-page autobiography "Known and Unknown," Rumsfeld remains largely unapologetic about his overall handling of the Iraq conflict and concludes that the war has been worth the costs.

Unbelievable. Truly remarkable.

Thousands of dead US soldiers, hundreds of thousands of dead Iraqis and over half a trillion dollars spent. All for zero WMDs and the execution of Saddam Hussein.

And to Rumsfeld, it was worth the costs.

Sir, you can f*ck yourself with a rusty razor.

Haha, liberal make-believe again, I love it. I can imagine your outrage if you were alive in the 1940's when we went after Hitler.

How about the 1930s when we built Hilter through American industrialists and money?


upload.wikimedia.org
Lulz
 
2011-02-03 11:21:52 AM  
Oh, this thread again.

/I hate politics.
//but the circus is fun to watch, so I'll probably hang around a bit
 
2011-02-03 11:22:10 AM  
Before the talking points sidetrack this place even further -- there is one specific reason I do not like Rumsfeld. He pulled a McNamara and requested that the NSA funnel all SIGINT through him, to the rest of the administration. It didn't work for McNamara and it didn't work for Rumsfeld, but the politicization of SIGINT makes me instantly dislike him. Intelligence Analysts are there for a reason, just because you hold a specific spot within the administration does NOT make you more qualified than they are, nor does it give you the right to only offer YOUR interpretation of data.
 
2011-02-03 11:24:26 AM  
Exit a hero...

Link
 
2011-02-03 11:24:50 AM  

Thunderpipes: Rev.K: FTA:

Sounding characteristically tough and defiant in the 800-page autobiography "Known and Unknown," Rumsfeld remains largely unapologetic about his overall handling of the Iraq conflict and concludes that the war has been worth the costs.

Unbelievable. Truly remarkable.

Thousands of dead US soldiers, hundreds of thousands of dead Iraqis and over half a trillion dollars spent. All for zero WMDs and the execution of Saddam Hussein.

And to Rumsfeld, it was worth the costs.

Sir, you can f*ck yourself with a rusty razor.

Haha, liberal make-believe again, I love it. I can imagine your outrage if you were alive in the 1940's when we went after Hitler.


pfft. Saddam was a pissant compared to Hitler. His army was defeated in nothing flat. he had no navy or air forces. he had been emasculated in the 90's. it was the insurgence that took all the time. thanks to Rummy's ignorance and dissolving the Iraqi army and police. then allowing torture. and ethnic cleansing. the plan was to go to Iran too but they botched it.
Now we're stuck in quicksand and bleeding money.
 
2011-02-03 11:25:05 AM  

Organic Chemistry: AND..... I still think I like this guy.


An account less than a week old and you already qualify for UltraFark? I smell admin trolling for pagehits.
 
2011-02-03 11:25:46 AM  
Yet another entry for my bucket list.

X. Piss on Dick Cheney's grave.
X. Piss on Donald Rumsfeld's grave.
 
2011-02-03 11:26:19 AM  
the headline and the hero tag makes me want to have a day of rage
 
2011-02-03 11:27:18 AM  
It takes a brave man to look at his mistakes, look at the trillions of dollars and thousands of lives he waste, and admit that he was right all along and it's reality that's wrong.
 
2011-02-03 11:29:08 AM  

Thunderpipes:
Haha, liberal make-believe again, I love it. I can imagine your outrage if you were alive in the 1940's when we went after Hitler.


But, Hitler never bombed Pearl Harbor.

/It's true.
 
2011-02-03 11:29:55 AM  
Meh. He's a war criminal, but he's our war criminal. When the chickens come home to roost he'll have been forgotten, as he has been for the last few years.
 
2011-02-03 11:30:13 AM  
Wrong AND incompetent is a lethal combination.
 
2011-02-03 11:30:44 AM  

Thunderpipes: Haha, liberal make-believe again, I love it.


images0.memegenerator.net
 
2011-02-03 11:30:59 AM  
Rev K: You are right on. Thunderpipes: You are either a farking idiot or an AWESOME comedian. HAHA - you compare Hitler to Saddam...LOL

The Hero tag must also be a bad, bad joke...
 
2011-02-03 11:31:03 AM  
It will be nice for today's Republicans to take time off from complaining about "Obama ruining the economy" to read this excellent book that in no way sheds light on why this nation is now broke.
 
2011-02-03 11:31:20 AM  
I read Richard Clarke's book and this douchebag Rumsfeld is way worse than most people can even conceive.
 
2011-02-03 11:31:39 AM  
static.bored.com
 
Ehh
2011-02-03 11:32:30 AM  
His words:

"We're functioning in a - with peacetime restraints, with legal requirements in a wartime situation, in the information age, where people are running around with digital cameras and taking these unbelievable photographs and then passing them off, against the law, to the media, to our surprise, when they had not even arrived in the Pentagon."

"I don't own any casual clothes. Next question, please."

"Of course, this conjures up Winston Churchill's famous phrase when he said--don't quote me on this, okay? I don't want to be quoted on this, so don't quote me. He said 'sometimes the truth is so precious it must be accompanied by a bodyguard of lies.'"

"We know where they are. They're in the area around Tikrit and Baghdad and east, west, south and north somewhat."

Donald Rumsfeld is a lying sociopathic prideful asshole. He's no hero. He got rich using his government connections to help buddies in the corporate world. He is directly responsible for a huge amount of suffering and death that was carried out to make some people richer and everybody else poorer. He is no hero. Ask Bush 41 and Colin Powell and all those generals what they think of him.
 
2011-02-03 11:32:45 AM  
McCain responds to Rumsfeld memoir: 'Thank God he was relieved of his duties'

Heh.
 
2011-02-03 11:32:47 AM  

Thunderpipes: Rev.K: FTA:

Sounding characteristically tough and defiant in the 800-page autobiography "Known and Unknown," Rumsfeld remains largely unapologetic about his overall handling of the Iraq conflict and concludes that the war has been worth the costs.

Unbelievable. Truly remarkable.

Thousands of dead US soldiers, hundreds of thousands of dead Iraqis and over half a trillion dollars spent. All for zero WMDs and the execution of Saddam Hussein.

And to Rumsfeld, it was worth the costs.

Sir, you can f*ck yourself with a rusty razor.

Haha, liberal make-believe again, I love it. I can imagine your outrage if you were alive in the 1940's when we went after Hitler.


1/10 Too early for a Godwin. You have to get the ball rolling first.
 
2011-02-03 11:33:26 AM  
Watch Rumsfeld's approval ratings rise over the next couple of weeks, like they did when Bush hawked his crock o'crap book a few months back.

/All hail, the United States of Amnesia!
 
2011-02-03 11:33:27 AM  
This cocksucker should be rotting away in a prison cell.
 
2011-02-03 11:33:53 AM  
The Iraq war, whether necessary or not, has been one of the cleanest and least costly in terms of lives of any armed invasion and occupation in the modern era. Yes, it was slow going. But a democratic Iraq looks like it may actually become a reality.
 
2011-02-03 11:34:20 AM  

Grass Hopper: Thunderpipes: Rev.K: FTA:

Sounding characteristically tough and defiant in the 800-page autobiography "Known and Unknown," Rumsfeld remains largely unapologetic about his overall handling of the Iraq conflict and concludes that the war has been worth the costs.

Unbelievable. Truly remarkable.

Thousands of dead US soldiers, hundreds of thousands of dead Iraqis and over half a trillion dollars spent. All for zero WMDs and the execution of Saddam Hussein.

And to Rumsfeld, it was worth the costs.

Sir, you can f*ck yourself with a rusty razor.

Haha, liberal make-believe again, I love it. I can imagine your outrage if you were alive in the 1940's when we went after Hitler.

1/10 Too early for a Godwin. You have to get the ball rolling first.


It's never too early for Thunderpipes to say something dumb. He says more dumb things before breakfast than most people can manage in a week. That's just the kind of go-getter he is.
 
2011-02-03 11:34:22 AM  

Thunderpipes: Rev.K: FTA:

Sounding characteristically tough and defiant in the 800-page autobiography "Known and Unknown," Rumsfeld remains largely unapologetic about his overall handling of the Iraq conflict and concludes that the war has been worth the costs.

Unbelievable. Truly remarkable.

Thousands of dead US soldiers, hundreds of thousands of dead Iraqis and over half a trillion dollars spent. All for zero WMDs and the execution of Saddam Hussein.

And to Rumsfeld, it was worth the costs.

Sir, you can f*ck yourself with a rusty razor.

Haha, liberal make-believe again, I love it. I can imagine your outrage if you were alive in the 1940's when we went after Hitler.


Which one is the liberal make-believe? Is Hussein alive? Were there WMD stockpiles found? Were no Americans killed? Were no Iraqis killed? Did Rumsfeld think it was a bad move?
 
2011-02-03 11:35:07 AM  
This asshole was still claiming there were Iraqi WMDs months after UNMOVIC inspectors arrived. Fark him

Never admit error, neocons. It serves you so well.
 
2011-02-03 11:35:13 AM  

Thunderpipes: Rev.K: FTA:

Sounding characteristically tough and defiant in the 800-page autobiography "Known and Unknown," Rumsfeld remains largely unapologetic about his overall handling of the Iraq conflict and concludes that the war has been worth the costs.

Unbelievable. Truly remarkable.

Thousands of dead US soldiers, hundreds of thousands of dead Iraqis and over half a trillion dollars spent. All for zero WMDs and the execution of Saddam Hussein.

And to Rumsfeld, it was worth the costs.

Sir, you can f*ck yourself with a rusty razor.

Haha, liberal make-believe again, I love it. I can imagine your outrage if you were alive in the 1940's when we went after Hitler.


Godwinned pretty quickly. Surely you aren't putting Saddam on a par with Hitler?
 
2011-02-03 11:36:14 AM  

Thunderpipes: Rev.K: FTA:

Sounding characteristically tough and defiant in the 800-page autobiography "Known and Unknown," Rumsfeld remains largely unapologetic about his overall handling of the Iraq conflict and concludes that the war has been worth the costs.

Unbelievable. Truly remarkable.

Thousands of dead US soldiers, hundreds of thousands of dead Iraqis and over half a trillion dollars spent. All for zero WMDs and the execution of Saddam Hussein.

And to Rumsfeld, it was worth the costs.

Sir, you can f*ck yourself with a rusty razor.

Haha, liberal make-believe again, I love it. I can imagine your outrage if you were alive in the 1940's when we went after Hitler.


The difference, of course, is that Hitler was the aggressor.
 
2011-02-03 11:36:40 AM  

Ehh: He is no hero. Ask Bush 41 and Colin Powell and all those generals what they think of him.


I especially want to hear what Colin Powell has to say about Rumsfeld.

Powell was the one who went to the UN Security Council and had to sell them the complete bullsh*t story about WMDs and chemical weapons production and when all that turned out to be the bullsh*t many already knew it was, Rumsfeld completely sold Powell out.

Powell's endorsement of Obama came as absolutely no surprise to me.
 
2011-02-03 11:36:57 AM  

Shaggy_C: The Iraq war, whether necessary or not, has been one of the cleanest and least costly in terms of lives of any armed invasion and occupation in the modern era. Yes, it was slow going. But a democratic Iraq looks like it may actually become a reality.



The funny thing is that this is true. But that's like saying it was the least stinky turd in the septic tank.
 
2011-02-03 11:37:25 AM  
No mention of how he ran point for Cheney against the ethics committee.

How when he became SoD he was worth $8 to $12 mill and when he left over $250 mill.

Or how Cheney's options in Halliburton went up 3000% in '03-'04 alone.

/He's a schmuck on so many levels.
 
2011-02-03 11:38:52 AM  
It is important to remember that no-one, no-one is a villain in their own eyes. Nobody is the bad guy in their personal story.

Human beings are quite amazing in stretching reality around themselves to suit their narratives. If he had left Iraq a glass parking lot he probably would still be saying he did the right thing.

Also explains why so many of these types are such died in the wool Christians. If I had that much blood on my hands, I'd also be desperate to believe in a religion that would forgive me no matter what I did.

/Buddhist
//don't even want to think about the karma that is awaiting Rummy and George.
 
Ehh
2011-02-03 11:38:55 AM  
Shaggy_C, a democratic Iraq IS a reality. They ratified a constitution, and they voted in their representatives. And guess what? They want us to GTFO. So, why are we still there?

And yeah, among Rumsfeld's many mistakes--demobbing the Iraqi military. He's stupid on top of everything else. How'd he rise so far? He knows how to play people and kiss ass.
 
2011-02-03 11:39:34 AM  
Worst SecDef since Macnamara, maybe worst ever.
 
2011-02-03 11:39:47 AM  
Hero?

Listen subby, if you want I can give you lessons on how to troll. My fee is $35/hour, with a bonus seminar on trolling gun threads.

Call me. 1-800-THE-GAME
 
2011-02-03 11:39:59 AM  
If a national disaster were to befall us coast-to-coast and during the common I happened to run across this man, crawling in the gutter of the streets, mangled and bleeding with his arm outstretched asking for my help - I would still kick him in the face as hard as I could.

Rumsfeld should rot and die in a federal prison with the rest of the Bushmen.
 
2011-02-03 11:40:01 AM  

Thunderpipes: Rev.K: FTA:

Sounding characteristically tough and defiant in the 800-page autobiography "Known and Unknown," Rumsfeld remains largely unapologetic about his overall handling of the Iraq conflict and concludes that the war has been worth the costs.

Unbelievable. Truly remarkable.

Thousands of dead US soldiers, hundreds of thousands of dead Iraqis and over half a trillion dollars spent. All for zero WMDs and the execution of Saddam Hussein.

And to Rumsfeld, it was worth the costs.

Sir, you can f*ck yourself with a rusty razor.

Haha, liberal make-believe again, I love it. I can imagine your outrage if you were alive in the 1940's when we went after Hitler.


You are stupid beyond reason to even try to equate 1940s Germany with 2003 Iraq.

By the way, what exactly did we win in Iraq?

Please show your work.
 
2011-02-03 11:41:16 AM  

Grass Hopper: Thunderpipes: Rev.K: FTA:

Sounding characteristically tough and defiant in the 800-page autobiography "Known and Unknown," Rumsfeld remains largely unapologetic about his overall handling of the Iraq conflict and concludes that the war has been worth the costs.

Unbelievable. Truly remarkable.

Thousands of dead US soldiers, hundreds of thousands of dead Iraqis and over half a trillion dollars spent. All for zero WMDs and the execution of Saddam Hussein.

And to Rumsfeld, it was worth the costs.

Sir, you can f*ck yourself with a rusty razor.

Haha, liberal make-believe again, I love it. I can imagine your outrage if you were alive in the 1940's when we went after Hitler.

1/10 Too early for a Godwin. You have to get the ball rolling first.


'Pipes is serious but not too interested in serious political debate. "Libtard" this etc.

Have fun with him or ignore him, but he pretty much believes what he posts.
 
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