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(NPR)   We know you've been waiting breathlessly for mid-east expert Jimmy Carter to weigh in on the Egypt situation. Well, wait no longer   (npr.org) divider line 190
    More: Interesting, Jimmy Carter, Middle East, Egyptian President Hosni Mubarak, Egypt, Six Day War, Ayatollah Khomeini, diplomatic missions of the United States, Islamic Revolution  
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2011-01-31 10:16:40 PM
K.B.O. Winston: Sarcastica75: Some of you are so stupid it gave me a yeast infection in my anus.

You know, I wasn't going to be very impressed with you... but then you worked both "yeast infection" and "anus" into one post. One sentence!

Now that's some damn Mensa ninja shiat, right there.


I guess it's derivative of repeated personal experience on his part.
 
2011-01-31 10:17:13 PM
Jimmy Carter's downfall was that he was honest and straightforward, and legitimately cared about people. He's spent his entire existence since he left the White House involved in charitable endeavors. People who crap on him are usually not very bright, and have entrenched themselves into a politically simplistic "us & them" mindset that prevents them from having to think objectively.

Yah, dude...it was Jimmy Carter's fault the helicopter malfunctioned in Iran. His ineptitude as an Executive was the direct cause. And your picture really drove the point home. Congratulations...you're a moron.
 
2011-01-31 10:18:59 PM
namegoeshere: He's still alive?

Yes. Hide the bunnies.
 
2011-01-31 10:19:11 PM
Genevieve Marie: I am not a Limivore: Nobody gives a shiat what Jimmy Carter thinks.

/About anything.

I do.

He's usually right.


I like you more every time you post.

MBooda: Seriously, Reagan came up with a solution that got the hostages home. I suspect it may have involved the threat of something like the above. Worked for me.

I
suspect it had something to do with this: Link (new window)

You never negotiate with terrorists, except when a presidential election is on the line.
 
2011-01-31 10:20:59 PM
Did he happen to mention that we should wear sweaters?
 
2011-01-31 10:23:19 PM
"We are at a turning point in our history. There are two paths to choose. One is a path I've warned about tonight, the path that leads to fragmentation and self-interest. Down that road lies a mistaken idea of freedom, the right to grasp for ourselves some advantage over others. That path would be one of constant conflict between narrow interests ending in chaos and immobility. It is a certain route to failure."

Love or hate him, he sure got it right about the danger of not solving our energy problem (dependency on foreign supplies). That's why I call him America's Cassandra.
 
2011-01-31 10:25:38 PM
sO,Gulper Eel: eggrolls: MBooda: Lenny_da_Hog: And what would you have done?


Good thing Saint Jimmy Carter never would have done such a foul and underhanded thing. Oh, wait...

In November 1990, two months after Iraq's invasion of Kuwait, Carter wrote a letter to the heads of state of the permanent members of the United Nations Security Council. He urged the countries to drop their support for Bush's proposed military solution. Instead, as Douglas Brinkley outlines in The Unfinished Presidency, his glowing but not uncritical assessment of Carter's post-presidential years, Carter asked the countries to give "unequivocal support to an Arab League effort" for peace. (As Brinkley notes, Carter's anti-war position conflicted with the Carter Doctrine he had outlined as president: Any "attempt by any outside force to gain control of the Persian Gulf region will be regarded as an assault on the vital interests of the United States of America, and such force will be repelled by any means necessary, including military force.") Right up to Bush's Jan. 15 deadline for war, Carter continued his shadow foreign policy campaign.

--

After meeting with Kim Il Sung, Carter went live on CNN International without telling the administration. His motive: Undermine the Clinton administration's efforts to impose U.N. sanctions on North Korea. Carter believed sanctions threatened the agreement he had worked out. By speaking directly to the world about the prospects for peace, he knowingly encouraged countries like Russia and China, which were resisting a sanctions regime. According to Brinkley, a Clinton Cabinet member referred to Carter as a "treasonous prick" for his behavior.


So, openly and publicly 'speaking to the world' (your quote, not mine), which may or may not encourage third party world leaders in a peaceful course of action contrary to the wishes of the current administration, is the moral equivalent as clandestine illegal meetings with a belligerent country currently holding foreign nationals hostage. Got it.
 
2011-01-31 10:26:05 PM
Snowflake Tubbybottom: Did he happen to mention that we should wear sweaters?

Cardigans for Cairo? Sounds like sochulizum.
 
2011-01-31 10:27:42 PM
Genevieve Marie: rga184: Genevieve Marie: I do.

He's usually right.

if this country had continued his concern for energy efficiency these last 30 years, we wouldn't give a crap what was going on in the middle east right now because we'd have no horse in that race.

/why the fark would you take down solar panels that are functioning? What message does that send?
//knows exactly what message that sent.

It sent the message that energy efficiency was for stupid liberals.

I've always hated that particular gesture. The money had already been spent, so the Reagan administration wasn't saving any money by taking them down. It defies all logic.


Note for hippies: Always make sure that your roof is completely renovated before installing solar thermal panels. Otherwise you will be paying for installation twice.

/anyone who thinks we could run a modern society on renewables is a tool.
//one week without Sun makes you realize that
///unless that's a Shipstone in your pocket
 
2011-01-31 10:29:51 PM
wademh: Snowflake Tubbybottom: Did he happen to mention that we should wear sweaters?

Cardigans for Cairo? Sounds like sochulizum.


I would see a band called Cardigans for Cairo.
 
2011-01-31 10:34:47 PM
wademh: K.B.O. Winston: Sarcastica75: Some of you are so stupid it gave me a yeast infection in my anus.

You know, I wasn't going to be very impressed with you... but then you worked both "yeast infection" and "anus" into one post. One sentence!

Now that's some damn Mensa ninja shiat, right there.

I guess it's derivative of repeated personal experience on his part.


not very quick on the uptake, eh?
that's okay.
you just gave me polio in the vaheena.
 
2011-01-31 10:35:45 PM
clintp: Jimmy Carter, history's greatest monster.

MALAISRGE FOREVER
 
2011-01-31 10:35:45 PM
K.B.O. Winston: wademh: Snowflake Tubbybottom: Did he happen to mention that we should wear sweaters?

Cardigans for Cairo? Sounds like sochulizum.

I would see a band called Cardigans for Cairo.


They open at the Helen Keller (err, Amelia Erhart?) theater next week.
 
2011-01-31 10:38:07 PM
Sarcastica75: Some of you are so stupid it gave me a yeast infection in my anus.

Came here to say THIS!
 
2011-01-31 10:38:39 PM
therealpope: I use to think Jimmy was the worst President ever....but then came Obama.

THIS
 
2011-01-31 10:40:45 PM
If ever there was a time to "zig" when someone said "zag," it's whenever this monumental fool opens his mouth.
 
2011-01-31 10:41:43 PM
wademh: I am not a Limivore: Nobody gives a shiat what Jimmy Carter thinks.

/About anything.

Well, few people with IQs below 90 do, but over on the sunny side of the bell curve, the guy is respected. I know you can't see that sunny side from where you are so you'll just have to trust the smarter half.


You're absolutely correct. I can't see the below 90 IQ side from where I am on the bell curve.

/I've found that political leaning and intelligence rarely have anything to do with one another.

//Nice try though.
 
2011-01-31 10:42:29 PM
http://.imageshack.us//4010/tumblrlfr6q71baa1qcbo9l.jpg

(copy paste into browser)

Same old Jimmy Carter always mugging for the camera.
 
2011-01-31 10:42:42 PM
Sarcastica75: K.B.O. Winston: Sarcastica75: Some of you are so stupid it gave me a yeast infection in my anus.

You know, I wasn't going to be very impressed with you... but then you worked both "yeast infection" and "anus" into one post. One sentence!

Now that's some damn Mensa ninja shiat, right there.

I'm concise with the badinage.


More like not as quick to take it up the primary gastrular invagination as is Sarcastica75. The PDR suggests you should insert some Monostat suppositories for the ailment that repeatedly troubles you.
 
2011-01-31 10:45:07 PM
I am not a Limivore: wademh: I am not a Limivore: Nobody gives a shiat what Jimmy Carter thinks.

/About anything.

Well, few people with IQs below 90 do, but over on the sunny side of the bell curve, the guy is respected. I know you can't see that sunny side from where you are so you'll just have to trust the smarter half.

You're absolutely correct. I can't see the below 90 IQ side from where I am on the bell curve.

/I've found that political leaning and intelligence rarely have anything to do with one another.

//Nice try though.


What you have found is in conflict with the data on PhDs who are overwhelmingly liberal.
 
2011-01-31 10:45:33 PM
therealpope: I use to think Jimmy was the worst President ever....but then came Obama.

I "use" to think that you were dumber than a box of retarded hammers, but now I know you are only dumber than a box of hammered retards.
 
2011-01-31 10:46:52 PM
wademh: Sarcastica75: K.B.O. Winston: Sarcastica75: Some of you are so stupid it gave me a yeast infection in my anus.

You know, I wasn't going to be very impressed with you... but then you worked both "yeast infection" and "anus" into one post. One sentence!

Now that's some damn Mensa ninja shiat, right there.

I'm concise with the badinage.

More like not as quick to take it up the primary gastrular invagination as is Sarcastica75. The PDR suggests you should insert some Monostat suppositories for the ailment that repeatedly troubles you.


You sound like you're a blast at parties.
 
2011-01-31 10:47:03 PM
img834.imageshack.us

Bah first link got messed up.

Try that picture.
 
2011-01-31 10:48:41 PM
WHARBLEGARBLE!

NO, YOU!

WELL, MY CALCULATIONS STATE THAT THIS IQ TEST I TOOK ON THE INTERNETS HURRRRR.

Assholes.

You can't even troll right anymore.
 
2011-01-31 10:49:28 PM
Do they have an app for that?
 
2011-01-31 10:51:11 PM
Sarcastica75: wademh: Sarcastica75: K.B.O. Winston: Sarcastica75: Some of you are so stupid it gave me a yeast infection in my anus.

You know, I wasn't going to be very impressed with you... but then you worked both "yeast infection" and "anus" into one post. One sentence!

Now that's some damn Mensa ninja shiat, right there.

I'm concise with the badinage.

More like not as quick to take it up the primary gastrular invagination as is Sarcastica75. The PDR suggests you should insert some Monostat suppositories for the ailment that repeatedly troubles you.

You sound like you're a blast at parties.


Not nearly as popular as you I'm sure. In fact, I've never been passed around at all but that's just fine with me.
 
2011-01-31 10:52:56 PM
rga184: so if he hadn't helped a peace process, there would have been a war in the middle east to end all problems there? got it.

why did he mishandle it? he learned from his mistake at camp david and decided to leave a military threat in Iran in place. That way, they could start a war that will end all problems there.


Balance of power (new window). Please do pick up a book some time. Camp David removed the balance of power, leaving only one viable military power in the Middle East. That military power is now free to do whatever it wants, including oppress ethnic minorities within their boundaries without a meaningful deterrent.

Carter gambled that without Egypt, the rest of the countries in the Middle East would follow suit and formally recognize Israel.

But he miscalculated. Badly.

With the Palestinian question open, other countries can achieve their geopolitical goals of destabilizing the area by aiding the Palestinians without risking outright war.
 
2011-01-31 10:54:04 PM
wademh: Sarcastica75: wademh: Sarcastica75: K.B.O. Winston: Sarcastica75: Some of you are so stupid it gave me a yeast infection in my anus.

You know, I wasn't going to be very impressed with you... but then you worked both "yeast infection" and "anus" into one post. One sentence!

Now that's some damn Mensa ninja shiat, right there.

I'm concise with the badinage.

More like not as quick to take it up the primary gastrular invagination as is Sarcastica75. The PDR suggests you should insert some Monostat suppositories for the ailment that repeatedly troubles you.

You sound like you're a blast at parties.

Not nearly as popular as you I'm sure. In fact, I've never been passed around at all but that's just fine with me.


My penis resents that comment.

/"I just realized you're female, so now I'm going to call you a whore."
//Okay.
 
2011-01-31 10:56:21 PM
What's telling about the IQ of some voters is that the ones who tend to think Carter was anything short of the worst presidential disaster in recent American history are by and large too young to recall his presidency and many hadn't even been born yet.

Seriously, as a president, he was an unmitigated trainwreck of incompetence. Time may blur the details but anyone who was around to endure the original can still tell it's a pile of shiat 30 years later.

/yes, I know someone who was around then will proclaim he was great
//Reagan didn't win 1980 by a unanimous vote
 
2011-01-31 10:56:21 PM
Jimmy Carter was wurst predisant evar!!!111 Until FARTYMAOVOMIT WHO IS TRYING TO MAKE US INTO THE SOVIET UNIONZ WHICH OUR LORD AND SAVIOR RONALD REAGAN DEFEATED FOR A REASON!!!!! THESE ARE EDUCATED INTELLIGENT STATEMENTS JUST TRY TO ARGUE LIBTARDS LOLOOLOLOL
 
2011-01-31 11:03:01 PM
Sarcastica75: wademh: Sarcastica75: wademh: Sarcastica75: K.B.O. Winston: Sarcastica75: Some of you are so stupid it gave me a yeast infection in my anus.

You know, I wasn't going to be very impressed with you... but then you worked both "yeast infection" and "anus" into one post. One sentence!

Now that's some damn Mensa ninja shiat, right there.

I'm concise with the badinage.

More like not as quick to take it up the primary gastrular invagination as is Sarcastica75. The PDR suggests you should insert some Monostat suppositories for the ailment that repeatedly troubles you.

You sound like you're a blast at parties.

Not nearly as popular as you I'm sure. In fact, I've never been passed around at all but that's just fine with me.

My penis resents that comment.

/"I just realized you're female, so now I'm going to call you a whore."
//Okay.


Your realization is as pristine as your reputation as established by your advertised repeated fungal infections of your sphincter. Embrace your orientation as obviously others have repeatedly done so.
 
2011-01-31 11:05:47 PM
DSEILXYC: Taking the Egyptian threat off the table has resulted in relative peace for almost 40 years.

If the Egyptian threat is back in play, be assured the Zionists will, again, not go down without a fight. The pathetic Palestinians have nothing to do with it.


All of that is true. But taking the Egyptian threat off the table has left in place the only vehicle that other powers have to destabilize the region. Without the Palestinian threat, the other powers have nothing.

Most "Zionists" would gladly have given up the West Bank in 1974 to ensure they wouldn't have to shiat their pants every time the Egyptians had exercises near the border.

But that was 30+ years ago. The entire scene has changed now. Even with a successful Egyptian revolution and the unlikely subsequent recension of Camp David Accords, Egypt would pose no meaningful military threat to Israel without some third country providing significant aid and probably direct military support. That's not going to happen with the current geopolitical situation.

So no matter what happens now, you have a militarily unthreatened Israel.

And don't give me this bullshiat about Iran and a nuclear threat. That's a gambling chip. There's no, and I mean NO way that Iran would actually risk using any nuclear weapons they happen to be able to build in between computer virus attacks and direct air strikes on their facilities.

Which means that the Palestinians get no state, which means that other countries in the region will continue to be a thorn in the side of Israel, and the Israeli state will continue its slow and seemingly inexorable decline into rogue state status, until they wake up and decide to give the Palestinian population a meaningful measure of self-rule.
 
2011-01-31 11:21:32 PM
Babwa Wawa: So no matter what happens now, you have a militarily unthreatened Israel.

And don't give me this bullshiat about Iran and a nuclear threat. That's a gambling chip. There's no, and I mean NO way that Iran would actually risk using any nuclear weapons they happen to be able to build in between computer virus attacks and direct air strikes on their facilities.


I hope you're right.
 
2011-01-31 11:22:59 PM
Satanic_Hamster: One of my high school teachers worked with the defense and state department for a number of years after leaving the navy. He spent a lot of time in Egypt in the late 70's and 80's.

He said what was remarkable was that every cafe had three pictures somewhere on the walls; the President of Egypt, the local imam, and Jimmy Carter.

He's pretty respected out there.


I don't believe your teacher for half a second.
the egyptians assasinated sadat for signing the peace treaty carter brokered between egypt and israel, even though sadat was the only arab leader to ever *defeat* israel.
egypt was suspended from the arab league for signing that peace treaty with israel.
it was that point that america started propping up egyptian dictators.
you're telling me that somehow the common man hated imperialist america, hated our ally in the region, hated their own war hero president for signing the peace treaty so much they would murder him, hated that we were at least partially controlling their politics after that peace treaty, but somehow loved the american president (that brokered the hated peace treaty/started paying off their leaders/supporting the dictators) so much that they put his picture up next to the local imams in every cafe in the country?

you'll pardon me if I say think that smells like liberal high school teacher BS.
 
2011-01-31 11:25:53 PM
wademh: Sarcastica75: wademh: Sarcastica75: wademh: Sarcastica75: K.B.O. Winston: Sarcastica75: Some of you are so stupid it gave me a yeast infection in my anus.

You know, I wasn't going to be very impressed with you... but then you worked both "yeast infection" and "anus" into one post. One sentence!

Now that's some damn Mensa ninja shiat, right there.

I'm concise with the badinage.

More like not as quick to take it up the primary gastrular invagination as is Sarcastica75. The PDR suggests you should insert some Monostat suppositories for the ailment that repeatedly troubles you.

You sound like you're a blast at parties.

Not nearly as popular as you I'm sure. In fact, I've never been passed around at all but that's just fine with me.

My penis resents that comment.

/"I just realized you're female, so now I'm going to call you a whore."
//Okay.

Your realization is as pristine as your reputation as established by your advertised repeated fungal infections of your sphincter. Embrace your orientation as obviously others have repeatedly done so.


Embracing someone's orientation is not the same thing as embracing their butt. Unless you meant 'orifice'.
 
2011-01-31 11:28:58 PM
ambercat: wademh: Sarcastica75: wademh: Sarcastica75: wademh: Sarcastica75: K.B.O. Winston: Sarcastica75: Some of you are so stupid it gave me a yeast infection in my anus.

You know, I wasn't going to be very impressed with you... but then you worked both "yeast infection" and "anus" into one post. One sentence!

Now that's some damn Mensa ninja shiat, right there.

I'm concise with the badinage.

More like not as quick to take it up the primary gastrular invagination as is Sarcastica75. The PDR suggests you should insert some Monostat suppositories for the ailment that repeatedly troubles you.

You sound like you're a blast at parties.

Not nearly as popular as you I'm sure. In fact, I've never been passed around at all but that's just fine with me.

My penis resents that comment.

/"I just realized you're female, so now I'm going to call you a whore."
//Okay.

Your realization is as pristine as your reputation as established by your advertised repeated fungal infections of your sphincter. Embrace your orientation as obviously others have repeatedly done so.

Embracing someone's orientation is not the same thing as embracing their butt. Unless you meant 'orifice'.


It's too late. The stupid overwhelmed my entire immune system and I died.
 
2011-01-31 11:30:53 PM
MBooda: Seriously, Reagan came up with a solution that got the hostages home. I suspect it may have involved the threat of something like the above. Worked for me.

Reagan had nothing to do with it. He didn't take office until the day the hostages were released. He had no power to negotiate. The rumor that he had anything to do with it was a conspiracy theory.
 
2011-01-31 11:33:09 PM
relcec: derp.

Just so you newbs know: everything is the fault of libs who are completely ineffectual yet all-powerful, and no conservatives have ever done anything wrong, and even if they did, once a democrat did something bad so it's ok if they do it etc etc.


There, I've saved you from ever needing to read a relcec post ever again.
 
2011-01-31 11:33:09 PM
SpeelChuck: Subby, are you being ironic or are you really this stupid?

This is important.

/actually, it isn't.


Carter is the best ex president of all time, you're an idiot.

He single handedly solved 3 mile island. He was backdoored by GHWB in the iran hostage crisis and now he globe trots solving problems. The man is a farking saint.
 
2011-01-31 11:36:12 PM
And when was the last time YOU brokered a peace deal between two enemy nations? A treaty that has lasted over 30 years?

/Met Jimmy before he was President.
//No, he was never my favorite President.
///But the one thing he has done is more to promote peace and democracy around the world than any of his peers.
////Okay, not always in the same place. Sometimes you only get to pick one.
//Five slashies makes me happy.
 
2011-01-31 11:39:19 PM
negatendo.net
/Jimmaaaaaaaay!
 
2011-01-31 11:40:11 PM
gwydion56: And when was the last time YOU brokered a peace deal between two enemy nations? A treaty that has lasted over 30 years?

I'd say over 31 years ago...
 
2011-01-31 11:41:24 PM
MBooda: Yep, the ol' Carter Mideast Doctrine. Do nothing for six months, then FAIL.

It's always amusing to click the profile of some idiot like you. What Ivory Towered bastion of intellectualism are you from this time? Texas? South Carolina? In your case, Mississippi. What a surprise!!!
 
2011-01-31 11:41:29 PM
I want to say my favorite president of all time is martin van buren. Who cares about his policy... Dude rocked the lambchops.

Worst was rutheford b. hayes.
 
2011-01-31 11:50:05 PM
MBooda: Lenny_da_Hog: And what would you have done?

For starters,


Seriously, Reagan came up with a solution that got the hostages home. I suspect it may have involved the threat of something like the above. Worked for me.



Never heard of Iran-Contra? MBooda
 
2011-01-31 11:51:58 PM
Jimmy Carter...the Anti-Semite. He will side with any group willing to kill Jews.
 
2011-01-31 11:52:13 PM
therealpope: I use to think Jimmy was the worst President ever....but then came Obama.

HAHA!!

Obama isn't nearly as bad as the shiatty Republicans we have had in the last 40 years:

Nixon, Ford, Raygun, Bush and Bush.

A criminal, a pussy, a traitor, a pussy and an idiot.
 
2011-01-31 11:52:54 PM
I'm mostly a Republican, but I really hope that Hillary is talking to Carter regarding this situation.

Regardless of what I think of his policies, time has proven that he is a true humanitarian. His opinion and advice should be held in high regard.

/best of luck to you Egyptian farkers, when you're able to read this
 
2011-01-31 11:54:13 PM
Not CNN, MSNBC, nor FoxNews offer even one soul whose opinion I'd prefer over President Carter's.
 
2011-01-31 11:56:41 PM
ghare: relcec: derp.

Just so you newbs know: everything is the fault of libs who are completely ineffectual yet all-powerful, and no conservatives have ever done anything wrong, and even if they did, once a democrat did something bad so it's ok if they do it etc etc.


There, I've saved you from ever needing to read a relcec post ever again.


I didn't say carter did anything wrong.
if it makes you feel any better retard, carter advanced our interests as they have always been understood in the region significantly. we were the ones who saved israel in that last war with egypt by airlifting in arms when things were looking their worst for Israel. carter managed to make an ally out of egypt even though most of the populace hated us. obviously just because carter did well for us doesn't mean that the common man in egypt is going to see that as a positive thing though. I was only commenting on the unlikliehood of carter's picture being up in a place of honor next to the local imam.
 
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