Samuel Beale's Ghost: I was baffled as to why she polled so much stronger than Capuano, the only thing she had going for her was name recognition because she had a state wide office.

What you said, and the state Democratic establishment threw themselves behind her. They considered her a "safe choice". Capuano is very outspoken and very progressive, thus the state party backed the milquetoaste choice, assuming she would win because they assumed Democrats always win in Massachusetts.

what_now: Actually, today he gave a slightly more specific answer: He'll decide in the next few months.

What that probably means is he's working out a deal with the DNC to get their full backing. Now that he's know outside of Summavul, he's got a real shot to win.

I've always been amused that not only is he from Somerville (and was an alderman and the mayor of Somerville), he's got the old-school "Somerville accent" - it makes him sound like Joe Peschi.

Come to think of it, he looks like Peschi too.

moops: palelizard: Does it matter? Can Brown win another Rep primary if he gets challenged?

The Tea Baggers don't have enough clout to knock him out. The vast majority of Massachusetts Republicans are essentially idealogically the same as Senator Brown.

I agree, I don't think that the 'baggers in Massachusetts are strong enough to successfully challenge him in the primary election but someone will no doubt try. Could be interesting to watch. I do not know where Brown's money in the past election came from but my feeling is that a fair bit of it came from out-of-state donors thinking they were backing a 'bagger. If these same folks think they have a far right candidate to challenge Brown, they will donate.

Any idea who they might run as a far right candidate?

what_now: Phil Herup: Well, to be fair, he is far too good looking to be a Democrat.

You're a farking child. Seriously. A person used to be able to have an intelligent conversation with you, but this? This is what you're reduced to?

Sigh. Go ahead. Call me a doody head.

Phil is a perfect example of why you never snort your own flavor-aid.

Samuel Beale's Ghost: Any idea who they might run as a far right candidate?

LOL, Jack E. Robinson? Again? He's been the only far-right candidate on the ballot in the last decade. He's a bigger trainwreck of a candidate than Alan Keyes.

Unless the perennial "kill-all-taxes-via-ballot-question" Carla Howell abandons the Libertarian Party and becomes a Tea Bagger.

In all honesty, the only far-right people that could get any traction here are the hate-radio personalities like Howie Carr and Gay Severin - and they are so wrought with controversial pasts that they are essentially unelectable.

what_now: only 4 of them are 'baggers

Ya but those 4 guys are VERY vocal!! I think three of them live in my town, one right across the street from me.

moops: LOL, Jack E. Robinson? Again?

LOL indeed!! Remember when he was being interviewed on the radio while he was driving his car and he got into an accident?

what_now: moops: Gay Severin -

Lol. Freudian slip.

He's one of the "notable assholes from Massachusetts." Like Mitt Romney, Mike Barnacle....

meat0918: What did they expect from a Massachusetts Republican? Strom Thurmond?

Hell no. To them, Strom Thurmond was a RINO.

what_now: Samuel Beale's Ghost: Any idea who they might run as a far right candidate?


I haven't seen ANY names. I can't think of a SINGLE person in Massachusetts politics further to the right than 2Hottie. I did here some moron on talk radio in a coffee shop talk about bringing back Bill Weld, but I'm not sure the baggers would go for a pro choice social justice crusader that....lives in New York.

They might try Jeff Perry (that scumbag). That would be a real kick in the pants to Brown since Brown strongly backed Perry in this past election. Perry can really rally his supporters and make a strong run but luckily his past is so shaded he wouldn't have a chance in the general election.

Samuel Beale's Ghost: what_now: Samuel Beale's Ghost: Any idea who they might run as a far right candidate?

I did here some moron on talk radio in a coffee shop talk about bringing back Bill Weld, .

Bill Weld??? The Bill Weld that endorsed Obama in 2008? That person on the radio is a moran.

Samuel Beale's Ghost: Any idea who they might run as a far right candidate?

Maybe some celebrity not currently in politics: John Dennis, Jerky Callahan, Curt Schilling, Howie Carr, etc.

lilbjorn: Samuel Beale's Ghost: Any idea who they might run as a far right candidate?

Maybe some celebrity not currently in politics: John Dennis, Jerky Callahan, Curt Schilling, Howie Carr, etc.

Curt Schilling, that Yankee fan??

Actually, that is not a bad idea, not a bad idea at all.

moops: The Tea Baggers don't have enough clout to knock him out. The vast majority of Massachusetts Republicans are essentially idealogically the same as Senator Brown.

what_now: Yes. Absolutely. There are 13 Republicans in Massachusetts, and only 4 of them are 'baggers. And it came out today that S2H has $7million in a campaign war chest.

Then it sounds like the 'baggers didn't really get Brown elected, and should probably stop talking.

what_now: Oh god, I can see these people trying to get Curt Schilling to run.

That would be farking epic.

Curt can pitch, but he's dumber than a bag of hammers. You thought Bush was dumb? Wait until your hear Curt Schilling.

Besides, he doesn't have residency here anymore.

palelizard: moops: The Tea Baggers don't have enough clout to knock him out. The vast majority of Massachusetts Republicans are essentially idealogically the same as Senator Brown.

what_now: Yes. Absolutely. There are 13 Republicans in Massachusetts, and only 4 of them are 'baggers. And it came out today that S2H has $7million in a campaign war chest.

Then it sounds like the 'baggers didn't really get Brown elected, and should probably stop talking.

Pretty much. He ran against one of the worst campaigns I've ever seen, against a candidate who was on record asking why she should go out in the cold to shake hands at Fenway. The baggers jumped on it because an (R) could take Kennedy's seat, and they care more about the letter after your name than the policies you're running on. Thus, great success quickly turning into horrified confusion.

moops: what_now: Oh god, I can see these people trying to get Curt Schilling to run.

That would be farking epic.

Curt can pitch, but he's dumber than a bag of hammers. You thought Bush was dumb? Wait until your hear Curt Schilling.

Besides, he doesn't have residency here anymore.

That's all thats needed to run as a conservative these days, isn't it? Residency isn't an issue with Senate position, he could easily buy property here and be eligible.

what_now: Lets not forget that Martha Coakely spelled Massachusetts wrong.

Hahaha, when? I don't remember that!

She was just a horrible candidate. I got the impression that she was bored the entire time. Remember when GHW Bush was debating Clinton and he kept looking at his watch? I had the impression that Coakley REALLY wanted to look at her watch.

what_now: Lets not forget that Martha Coakely spelled Massachusetts wrong.

And mocked the idea of campaigning to regular folks in bad weather.

what_now: Samuel Beale's Ghost: Any idea who they might run as a far right candidate?


I haven't seen ANY names. I can't think of a SINGLE person in Massachusetts politics further to the right than 2Hottie. I did here some moron on talk radio in a coffee shop talk about bringing back Bill Weld, but I'm not sure the baggers would go for a pro choice social justice crusader that....lives in New York.




Something like this guy?

what_now

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what_now: Lets not forget that Martha Coakely spelled Massachusetts wrong.

Maybe she was referring to Massachusetts' females? Like the daughters of liberty.

what_now: And I was kidding about Curt Schilling. He's said MANY times that he would never run for office. Curt's a great pitcher, but he's a dim bulb and he's smart enough to know that.

He's a huge evangelical holy roller and is at least smart enough to know that bible-bashing fundies can't get elected here, ever.

bartink: what_now: Lets not forget that Martha Coakely spelled Massachusetts wrong.

And mocked the idea of campaigning to regular folks in bad weather.

"As opposed to standing outside Fenway Park? In the cold? Shaking hands?''

That quote and her way-too-esoteric "Yankees fan" remark sunk her campaign.

She was a horrible candidate and many, many other Democrats could have won that race hands down.

I was so pissed off at her, I left the AG section on my ballot blank.

imapirate: There is literally nothing a politician can do to please the teabaggers.

Bachmann seems to do quite well at it.

I don't think Scott Brown was ever a "darling" of the right in the sense that Palin, Jindal, etc are. Rather, he was the best weapon available to put an R in Massachusetts, which was a huge victory in and of itself. It was also a sign of things to come in regards to the 2010 election.

meat0918: What did they expect from a Massachusetts Republican? Strom Thurmond?

BUT HE HAD A PICKUP TRUCK! HE LIED THROUGH RUGGED 'MERICAN TRUCKITUDE!

God, teabaggers are more easily impressed than a drunk high school girl.

Remember, kids, Masshole Republican = Texas Democrat

It makes no sense. Tea Party people are angry that he agreed to help ratify START? Why? Is it just because Glenn Beck said that it's bad? I really see no down side to START. It was proposed by Reagan as a means to help ease nuclear tensions with the USSR and just overall reduce our capacity to destroy the world. (I'm sure back room political deals were also in play)

I guess if you want to destroy 1000 times over instead of 100 times over you might be a bit angry about it but otherwise it's a good thing and has little to no effect on the general population. It's not like Russian troops are going to be occupying our cities as they search our nuclear stockpile to make sure we are doing what we say we are doing.

theorellior: Oh, is that gonna come up again? The first time I voted in Massachusetts that was a ballot question and I snorted and wondered who in their right mind would even bother getting that on the ballot.

it comes up year after year, due to the persistence of a liberarian activist. in 2010, they tried to eliminate the sales tax, in 2008, they tried to eliminate the income tax. i believe the income tax repeal has been on the ballot multiple times in the last decade.

Is anyone else bothered by the notion that these people literally thought they were buying Scott Brown's votes? They, in a very literal sense, want their money back because they didn't get exactly what they wanted.

These people are horrifying.