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(ABC)   "We're assuming he's a disgruntled employee," said of man at meeting with buckets of gasoline and firearm   (abcnews.go.com) divider line 21
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2003-07-18 08:34:13 AM


No, Kane! Stop! Don't set JR on fire!
 
2003-07-18 02:34:23 PM
perhaps he's merely 'gruntled'
...and, "By God!" redbaron71, I am so marking out over the new Kane angle
 
2003-07-18 02:34:54 PM
Haha... moron. He whips out an SKS? Why not whip out a bazooka, it'd be just as easy to handle.

If you're going to go on a rampage with firearms, at least use firearms that are designed for rampages. The SKS is a heavy, cumbersome rifle intended for open combat, not concealment under a farkin trenchcoat.

Oh well. "See, guns are bad and need to be banned" crying from the left in 5.. 4.. 3..
 
2003-07-18 02:38:10 PM
The meeting had buckets of gasoline and a firearm?
 
2003-07-18 02:38:17 PM
this story is NOT ironic!!! PLEASE ppl get the tags right!!! i hate it every time someone posts an ironic tag and the story IS NOT IRONIC AT ALL!!!! THIS STORY SEEMS MORE LIKE IT SHOULD BE AN OBVIOUS... plz people get it right!!!
 
2003-07-18 02:38:44 PM
Bright, was arrested and charged with malicious wounding and wanton endangerment.

So the two people who had gasoline poured on them were chinese?
 
2003-07-18 02:39:18 PM
If you're going to go on a rampage with firearms, at least use firearms that are designed for rampages. The SKS is a heavy, cumbersome rifle intended for open combat, not concealment under a farkin trenchcoat.

How's about a nice little Uzi, or dual Tek-9's?
 
2003-07-18 02:42:28 PM
UZI would be a good choice, as would a few Tek-9's or Mac-11's.

Hell, even dual gold-plated .50 Cal Desert Eagle's would be spiff. Ivory handles and gold plating, held sideways.. oh hell yeah pimp. And then you got the flows, you know what I'm sayin? Woo Woo!

However, the anti-gun guys wouldn't like the use of Uzi's, Tek9's, or Mac11's... they're already illegal. Antigunners like when otherwise legal firearms are used in illegal fashions, it gives them more ammo to cry for the banning of guns.
 
2003-07-18 02:47:27 PM
Please, someone P-shop a big "AFD" sign, for ANOTHER FARKING DUPLICATE. I'd do it if I had Photoshop.
 
2003-07-18 02:52:17 PM
I had an Chinese piece of crap SKS for about 20 minuites. I cleaned the crappy packing grease off of it and shot it 3 times and promptly brought it back. I traded it for a FN FAL which is like a cadillac compared to an SKS. I'm not suprised he only got 1 shot off, the cycling rate is horrible on them.
 
2003-07-18 02:57:15 PM
I have a chinese SKS, it's great. It works just like a $250 gun would be expected to work. Which is to say, it's crap, but it's functional crap. I seem to be one of the lucky few who has a highly accurate rifle, I have a little mini-scope on it and have had no problem at all hitting things at decent distances. Granted, it's no Remington, but few things are.

I can rapid fire the 5 round magazine in just about a second. Being that it's only semi-auto, not fully, I can't say if that's good, but it sure doesn't seem to have any issues in that regard.

I think the problem with the chinese SKS's is simple... most of them are utter, total crap... and a few of them are great. It's a crap shoot (haha, pun) when you buy one. Luckily, they're so cheap that even if you get a bad one, oh well.. only a few hundred bucks. Here in California, returning a gun is generally not something that's worth your time.

FAL's are illegal here in California, which is a shame.. the FAL is a damned fine piece of firearm.
 
2003-07-18 03:11:47 PM
Our local paper said it was an AK-47, and in a garbage bag, not an overcoat. Of course the local paper also had to point out, apropos of nothing, that the AK-47 "in its original Russian design, is a fully automatic battlefield weapon." So now it's just an SKS? I wondered how he could afford an AK-47.
 
2003-07-18 03:13:13 PM
So Rusty wasn't too bright, huh?
 
2003-07-18 03:16:34 PM
In it's original (read: highly illegal in this country) form, the SKS was a "fully automatic battlefield weapon" too, technically.

The AK47 technically was the logical replacement for the SKS. The SKS was designed as an assault rifle, while the AK47 is a battle rifle. I'd be hard pressed to explain the differences, but true rifle enthusiasts get pissy when you say they're both assault rifles.

The Simonov SKS is a Russian carbine developed in 1946. It is a gas operated, self-loading, semi-automatic rifle. The rifle is chambered for the 7.62 mm cartridge which it takes from a 10 round box magazine.

The SKS, (the SKS45), was designed by the famous Sergei Simonov. The Russian SKS were produced originally in the Tula Arsenel in 1949 through the mid 1950's. The Soviets Army replaced the Mosin-Nagant bolt-action rifles with the SKS rifle. The SKS was eventually replaced by the AK-47 rifle (Avtomat Kalashnikov).

The SKS is the basis for the famous AK weapon series. Kalishnikov borrowed many of the features of the SKS45 for the AK47 rifle.
 
2003-07-18 03:28:15 PM
Pete and repeat were in a boat, pete fell out...

yeah, its a repeat.
 
2003-07-18 04:36:14 PM


Poorly done, but effective.
 
2003-07-18 05:07:34 PM
In it's original (read: highly illegal in this country) form, the SKS was a "fully automatic battlefield weapon" too, technically.

It was? To the best of my knowledge, the SKS was always semi-auto (maybe a few experimental full-autos aside). It replaced the Soviet bolt-action Mosin-Nagants. Of course, the AK came out very soon thereafter and made the SKS obsolete.

The AK47 technically was the logical replacement for the SKS. The SKS was designed as an assault rifle, while the AK47 is a battle rifle. I'd be hard pressed to explain the differences, but true rifle enthusiasts get pissy when you say they're both assault rifles.

Almost. The SKS is not an assault rifle, because it is semi-auto. Otherwise, it would qualify. The AK-47 is an assault rifle, because it is capable of full-auto/bursts and it uses a mid-power cartridge. The term 'battle rifle' generally refers to rifles that fire high-power rounds such as 8mm Mauser, .30-06 (M1 Garand), and 7.62x54 (Mosin-Nagant).
 
2003-07-18 06:27:31 PM
It was? To the best of my knowledge, the SKS was always semi-auto

You're partially right. It seems I'm mistaken... the standard SKS was semi only. The Russians produced them with a selectable fire mode though, and called it the same SKS. The Chinese copied that system and also made SKS's which featured the selectable fire mode. However, the "standard" SKS was only semi-auto.

Of course, there's plenty of info explaining how to convert the SKS to full auto. I don't see the point really, anything more than a three round burst is virtually impossible to control anyway. Ah well.

Thanks for the clarification on what battle rifles would be. I certainly knew the Garand would be considered a BR (and Garand lovers damned well don't let you forget it.. heh) but other than that I had no idea what the classification would mean.

So basically the SKS could be considered (more or less) a "light" assault rifle depending on configuration, while the AK47 is the full deal.

Either way, I still maintain the SKS would make a pretty crappy choice when going on a rampage like this fool did. I have the folding stock (illegal, but I don't have it installed, just bought it to check it out..) and even folded up, I can't imagine it being anything less than a cumbersome, unweildy object when hidden beneath a coat.
 
2003-07-19 03:26:33 AM
Why do these guys always commit crimes while wearing orange jumpsuits?
 
2003-07-19 07:39:57 AM
Be careful there, White Haven. The ATF has been known to consider the possession of the parts needed to assemble an illegally-configured weapon to be de-facto possession of the illegal weapon, unless you also have a weapon that the parts can be legally put on.
 
2003-07-19 08:22:03 AM
adm_crunch

Yah. Heck, to be technical, my SKS is illegal as it is. Somewhat. I "upgraded" it with the monte-carlo style stock, which techically counts as a handgrip.. which makes the rifle illegal since I have the bayonet lugs and whatever the hell else a stock SKS has that counts against the list. I had a hardened steel hacksaw blade, and managed to cut one of the bayonet lugs off, but the other one remains, and thus is illegal. Granted, I couldn't use a bayonet on the thing, but I doubt the ATF would care about that technicality.

I have the folding stock because Tapco lied and sent it to me. On their website, they claim the sporter stock is the non-folding version of the folding stock, but is a one-piece stock and not just a pinned folding stock. Well, it's a pinned folding stock. Once I recieved the pinned folding stock, I emailed them to complain (I mean, the website says flat out "This isn't a pinned folding stock!") To make it up to me, I had them send me a folding stock de-pinner kit thingy so I can convert into a folding stock. I did so, checked it out, and realized how useless the folding stock was on such a large gun in the first place.

But either way, yeah. Darn ATF.
 
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