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2003-07-18 08:38:23 AM  
Poisoning/harming dogs to prove a point about leash laws is obviously sick and wrong. That being said, leash laws are a good thing and I have a hard time understanding how dog owners could argue not having leashes on when they walk their dog is a good thing.
 
2003-07-18 09:00:10 AM  
I hope they catch the guy and he's forced to take some poison sausage in the bighouse. Today it's dogs, tomorrow those pesky neighborhood kids who make too much noise after 8PM.

Personally I love dogs and love to let them run free. But if there's a leash law, there's a leash law, and some people are afraid of dogs (even the most innocent-looking ones) or just don't like them. In this case, there are also laws against killing animals, so this MF who thinks he's some kind of hero will be heading to jail for a bit.
 
2003-07-18 09:15:57 AM  
I think, if motivated, this would be an incredibly easy thing to do. Maybe not with Paraquat - but with some other easily obtainable poison. Avoid buying in mass and spread the purchases out, don't be obviously disgruntled about the dogs & laws (hard) etc. If thought out, a person could easily do this with not being caught. I think that this person is rabid in their opinions and will eventually talk too much thus leading to their capture.

I also think Clarinex needs to avoid using clip art from 1989.
 
2003-07-18 10:44:51 AM  
I do agree with the leash law because some people are scared of dogs and it's not fair to them. That being said kill my dog and I kill you.
 
2003-07-18 11:56:41 AM  
I have a dog, and I have no problems with a leash law. In fact, I have a beagle, and I actually prefer keeping him on a leash in the park. He hasn't got a mean bone in his body, but he's just likely to get on a scent and take off.

But, to echo DownSouth, fark with my dog and expect retribution of the severest magnitude.
 
2003-07-18 11:57:13 AM  

"Canine owners are on edge, certain that some lifelong dog-hater got sniffed one too many times by an unleashed pet, and decided to take revenge."


What this person is doing to the dogs is wrong. That being said, if any Bostonians ever walk through the Back Bay parks, you see all the yuppies letting their dogs run riot, or even when the dogs are leashed, you see the owner mistreat the dog by tugging the leash HARD, ect. Basically the little pooch is just another status symbol for them.


I say in order to break the poison sausage case wide open, call in the Pirate Baseball player to help out. He'll smack the sausage out of the dog's mouth like nobody's business.


"Look, a poison sausage ! ***SMACK !!**"


 
2003-07-18 11:59:04 AM  
If the police won't uphold the law, I have no problem with a little vigilante action.

So what if some dogs get sick or die. If the people had them on leashes like the law requires, it wouldn't have happened.
 
2003-07-18 12:01:35 PM  
Wow, what a sick fark. There should be a paypal to up that reward pot.
 
2003-07-18 12:03:44 PM  
Complaining about your dog dying because it ate something while off a leash when there's a leash law is like complaining that your kid dying because they got shot breaking into someones house - it doesn't get a whole lot of sympathy from me.

And, to get technical, this guy isn't killing dogs. He's not out shooting dogs. If the dogs are on their leash, they're safe.

Dog owners who let their dogs run free in public are just plain stupid, really. If it's not some guy poisoning sausages, it could easily be groundskeepers putting out rat poison, or spills of antifreeze - the world isn't always a pet-friendly place.
 
2003-07-18 12:03:45 PM  
um, leash your f'n dog.
 
2003-07-18 12:04:53 PM  
It is a freaking park, I take my dog there all the time. it is a good place for dogs to run and play and get tired so they don't bother us all night. Dogs run, if your dog is mean don't take it there or keep it on a leash, but if your dog is friendly and likes playing with other dogs or just palying fetch then have at it. There is NO reason to poison someones dog.
 
2003-07-18 12:06:47 PM  
Chemosh6969

Apparently you do not know the definition of overkill. Next time I see you speeding or rolling through a stop sign, I am going to shoot you in your head. Hey, if cops aren't going to give you a ticket, I have to take the laws in my own hand. If you wouldn't break the law, I wouldn't have to shoot you. Asshat.
 
2003-07-18 12:07:41 PM  
This is sick! It must have been a cat person that did this. Anyone who is afraid of dogs shouldn't go to the park then and get some help. What about the dog owners who are really good with the HARMLESS pets who clean up after them and watch them? Leash laws are good maybe when walking your dog down the street, but in a park it is ridiculous. I have never had a dog that would bite anyone. It is paranoia! Do they have a dog park in the city where they can go leashless? If not then they should be allowed to do it. If they have a dog park for dogs to go leashless then I bet people would complain about that.
 
2003-07-18 12:09:22 PM  
My dog has gotten off her leash before. So your saying it's alright to kill her.
 
2003-07-18 12:09:30 PM  
Poisoning/harming dogs to prove a point about leash laws is obviously sick and wrong. That being said, leash laws are a good thing and I have a hard time understanding how dog owners could argue not having leashes on when they walk their dog is a good thing.

Exactly. I live next to a large park where lots of people bring their dogs to and let them off the leash to go wild. Once off the leash, owners don't care at all what their dogs are doing. In result, they end up pissing and shiatting all over the place and the mess never gets cleaned up, making the park unusable to people - playing touch football or throwing a frisbee is like walking through a mine field. Then of course there are some dogs that should not be off a leash, and they end up attacking other dogs.

Instead of killing the dogs (obviously), a better method would simply be spraying some watered down ammonia on their noses. It makes them puke and lethargic for a few hours.
 
2003-07-18 12:11:36 PM  
chemosh6969 - so you believe that it's appropriate to kill a dog for the irresponsible actions of its owner? I'd hate to see what you'd do to someone's kid that was playing too close to you in the park.

Anyone touches my dogs, they lose a testicle.
 
2003-07-18 12:11:50 PM  
chemosh6969 - so you believe that it's appropriate to kill a dog for the irresponsible actions of it's owner? I'd hate to see what you'd do to someone's kid that was playing too close to you in the park.

Anyone touches my dogs, they lose a testicle.
 
2003-07-18 12:12:44 PM  
And to all of you who say that these poisoned sausages do not effect dogs on leashes, you must not own a dog. My dog (who is ALWAYS leashed in public places) has eaten all kinds of shiat that is on the ground. My leash extends to 16 feet which gives him enough length to find that tasty sausage hidden under the bush. But I guess he deserves it for being a dog in public. My bad.
 
2003-07-18 12:12:47 PM  
This is so asinine.

The site claims off-leash owners don't pick up the poop, which is usually false.

There's already all kinds of laws about dogs. If the dog so much as nips the child, the dog is put in jail with a death sentence.

This site is absolutely encouraging people to poison dogs, whether they understand it or not, by being confrontational and promoting "justice" for dog owners, they're creating a climate of hate.

We had a bout with Oregon's politics 10 years ago, they tried to export gay bashing to Washington State, and we had "Hands Off Washington" to shut it down at the border. It worked too. Even people that didn't support full on gay rights were like, damn straight (heh) keep that Oregon crap out of our homeland.

We might be needing a Paws Off Washington if this keeps up!
 
CB
2003-07-18 12:12:50 PM  
We have a seperate no-leash area in the park here for the dogs to run. Gee, sounds like a good idea, why don't these rocket scientists try it? BTW, I catch someone putting out what looks like poison, the caught farker will be tasting his/her own cooking if you get my drift.
 
2003-07-18 12:13:48 PM  
It's unfortunate that the dogs are th eones that pay becuase their asshole owners think it's ok to have their pets running around without a leash. These are the same time of self-centered jerks that talk at the movies and blow smoke in your face. When they have children, I bet the kids will be running around restaurants and other public places while mom and dad think it's cute.

If your dog needs to be taken somewhere to run and get tired, that's your problem. You should have thought of that before you bought one. The rest of us shouldn't have dogs running after us and jumping on us because of your poor choices.

But in the future, let's kill the owners and give the dogs to someone responsible.
 
2003-07-18 12:14:55 PM  
There is no excuse for killing the dogs. Leash laws or not, it is not ok for anyone to take the law into their own hands. What this person did was completely unacceptable and I hope they catch and sentance the socks of this bastard.

That said, I live in the city where this happened and it's a huge story right now. I have a 2 1/2 year old chocolate lab but I *never* let him off leash unless he is at home, or a friends house, or a fenced dog park. I am a firm believer and support of leash laws, and I get really pissed off when people let their dogs roam around in a public area off-leash. There is no excuse for it. My dad is *not* a dog person, so I have first-hand experience with someone who is not comfortable around dogs. I love dogs, but get nervous too when an unknown unleashed dog comes running up to me, how am I supposed to know if it's friendly or not? Irresponsible dog owners are the ones who cause things like this to happen.
 
2003-07-18 12:16:32 PM  
Ok here's the deal:

1. If your dog bites me or my kid when he's off his leash, I get to inflict the same wound on you or your kid.

2. If I step in your dog's sh*t while strolling through the park, then you have to lick it off my shoe.

That leash is sounding pretty good now isn't it?
 
2003-07-18 12:16:43 PM  
While I don't particularly like dogs, I don't see that there is a good reason to bait them to their death because their owners are stupid.
 
2003-07-18 12:18:32 PM  
tunicoco

the only reason the cops wouldn't give me a ticket for speeding or rolling through a stop sign is if I have big tits and that's not the case.

Something like that actually happened to me. I was at a red light and a cop pulled a lady over in the other lane for running a stop sign. A car drives past with it's stereo on and the cop runs over to me and tells me to pull over. I pull over and can hear

Boobs: oh, i didn't see that stop sign
Cop: you didn't? blah blah blah. try to stop for it next time

Of course when he gets to me and he even said he wasn't sure I was the one that had the stereo on, I am not a woman, nor to I have big boobs, so I am the one with a ticket.

Back to my point, the guy isn't forcing the dogs to eat anything and the only way that would make what you say similar was if you were standing on a corner shooting at a target and I decide to go in front of the barrel.
 
2003-07-18 12:18:35 PM  
tunicoco - "And to all of you who say that these poisoned sausages do not effect dogs on leashes, you must not own a dog. My dog (who is ALWAYS leashed in public places) has eaten all kinds of shiat that is on the ground."

Bingo...that is what dogs do they sniff shiat and eat shiat, they are dogs and that is what they do
 
2003-07-18 12:19:46 PM  
This guy went one very small step too far. Dog owners have a responsibility to control and clean up after their beast. The penalty to not do so, however, should be levied against the dog owner, not the dog.
 
2003-07-18 12:19:47 PM  
I live across the street from this park and play around there nearly everyday. This is the saddest thing that's happened here since a drunk driver killed 2 bicyclists in our neighborhood last month. Just more bad news for Belmont.

nutmilk: um, leash your f'n dog.

Several of the dogs who have died have been leashed..it's just that you don't expect them to be poisoned while sniffing around the bushes.
...Like tunicoco said.
 
2003-07-18 12:20:28 PM  
When I was in college, my roommate had a rescued German Shepherd, the nicest dog but because he was a trained attack dog, he would go ballistic whenever he saw another dog. I would take him for walks now and again and I had several occasions where the dog came close to killing another dog because people wouldn't leash their dogs on the trails.

I love dogs but those who don't leash them are just being completely irresponsible pet owners. Some people shouldn't be allowed to be responsible for any other living thing. In the case of these poisonings, the dogs are the ones being hurt, not the owners, many of the jackass owners will simply go get another dog.
 
2003-07-18 12:21:14 PM  
2003-07-18 12:07:41 PM FlashLV


This is sick! It must have been a cat person that did this. Anyone who is afraid of dogs shouldn't go to the park then and get some help. What about the dog owners who are really good with the HARMLESS pets who clean up after them and watch them? Leash laws are good maybe when walking your dog down the street, but in a park it is ridiculous. I have never had a dog that would bite anyone. It is paranoia! Do they have a dog park in the city where they can go leashless? If not then they should be allowed to do it. If they have a dog park for dogs to go leashless then I bet people would complain about that.


Congrats, selfish dog owners like you are the people who created this dog-poisoning guy.
 
2003-07-18 12:21:56 PM  
I completely agree with leash laws. One of my babies is a very aggressive schnauzer. I always keep him on a leash, but if other people don't keep their dogs on leashes, that puts their dogs in danger. My dog will attack other dogs if they come near him. As long as I have him on a leash, I can control him, but I cannot control other people's animals.

As far as the guy who poisoned sausages, what a sick son of a biatch. Murder generally doesn't anger me, but when you pick on someone defenseless, like a child or animal, that's farking sick. People like that need to live out their lives in a pain amplifier. And have damn long lives.
 
2003-07-18 12:22:31 PM  
FlashLV:

A cat person? You mean a furry dude with a tail or a cat owner? Visions of Natasha Kinski come to mind.....

Sorry, not a cat person, it was just an asshole. I love cats as much as I do dogs. As for people who are afraid of dogs not being able to go to the park, jesus christ, lighten up. People have the right to go to the park, dogs do not. Sorry, it's the truth. I go to the park to play frisbee and have been infurated by jerks letting their dogs run and shiat everywhere. Ever have warm dog poop squish between your toes? I have, and I don't like it. Now, that said, It is EVIL to put poison out to prove a point. What if little Sally ate a piece of that sausage while playing? I believe that is called MURDER. Over what? Dogs frolicing? This guy needs a good beating, plus jail time, plus owing the dog owners. Good case to sue someone. Not for the $, but to ruin the jerk.
 
2003-07-18 12:26:41 PM  
monkeybort

There isn't a law that says kids need to be on a leash is there?
 
2003-07-18 12:28:31 PM  
It's sad that someone felt the need to take this issue to this extreme. As a fellow Oregonian and dog owner, my sympathies to the families that were effected. :'(
 
2003-07-18 12:32:09 PM  
But what difference does it make if you have a well behaved dog who actually listens, and doesn't bother anyone except a tennis ball?
 
2003-07-18 12:33:37 PM  
I live in Tampa and we have these amazing things called dog parks, where you can take your unleashed dogs and let them run, poop and screw all they want. Why not try that Portland, you can also hire a few of your record number of homeless drug addicts to clean the feces from the parks nightly and lat them bathe in the doggie pools if they do a good job.
 
2003-07-18 12:33:42 PM  
But what difference does it make if you have a well behaved dog who actually listens, and doesn't bother anyone except a tennis ball? And no I don't blow smoke on people or talk in movies, but my very smart and well trained dog can run around all she wants. If she does something I don't like well that is what her shock collar is for.
 
2003-07-18 12:36:32 PM  
This wouldn't be an issue if the dogs would agree to become vegans...
 
2003-07-18 12:37:36 PM  
Damn.. killing animals is the wrong way to go, but I would support the non-lethal ammonia thing. People need to respect non-dog owners. I live in an apartment complex that allows dogs, and some of the tenants are thoughtless. Taking large dogs out on sidewalks w/o leashes, throwing frisbees around high traffic street areas, letting them defecate in footpath areas, etc. Right pissed me off, but I would never put out poison.

I hate to say it, but:
The popular park has been almost deserted since word first spread about the poisonings, and the few dog owners who do show up keep their tethers tight.

I guess they know how to correctly hold their animals now. Put a little fear into them, since fines seem to have done nothing.
 
2003-07-18 12:39:26 PM  
interesting statements...
we have to tire out our dog or else she disturbs us.
if my dog does something I don't like...

It always all about you and if your child/animal/smoke/talking bothers someone else, well that's just too bad.
 
2003-07-18 12:39:40 PM  
chemosh6969

Actually you said "If the police won't uphold the law, I have no problem with a little vigilante action.

So what if some dogs get sick or die. If the people had them on leashes like the law requires, it wouldn't have happened."

So, if I see you speeding and there is no cop to give you a ticket (police not upholding the law), I am going to shhot you (vigialnte action). See the connection to what you said? Now, if you came up to the offending dog owner and tried to give them a ticket, the action would be approriate with the prescribed punishment. Killing dogs does not equal giving the owner a ticket in my book. Maybe in your world it does.
 
2003-07-18 12:42:40 PM  
He/She is a mean and cruel person, but the people whose dogs have died are selfish and insensative to other people.

I have sympathy for the dogs, but not their owners, who are not only exposing their pets to normal risks that a poop puppy faces running around in public unsupervised but also genuinly annoy and threaten both people and the wildlife of the park.

But hey, some guy standing there while his dog is lunging at a couple squirrils shouldn't be the barometer right? Hmm no nobody could have sympathy for an animal that isn't a pet.

Sorry but when I go to a park it's to relax, and admire the flaura and fauna, not to have to shoo dogs away from my lunch, watch out for doggie landmines, and so on.
 
2003-07-18 12:46:05 PM  
shhot = shoot
 
2003-07-18 12:46:24 PM  
it's the owners responsibility to know if a dog should be leashed or not. The dog, is an animal and it's not the dog's fault if it is chasing people around or taking a huge dump in your driveway. The stupid owners need to take the punishment for what they let there dog do. Poor dogs need to have room to run around, and it's great if they are trained correctly to be able to do that.
Bottom line- if your dog is psycho, leash it or don't go around people.
If your dog is trained well and you are a responsible owner, have fun!
 
2003-07-18 12:46:34 PM  
DaterapeJeff The park in question is a designated off leash park. if you lived in the area you would know that.

YES I SAY IT IS A DESIGNATD OFF LEASH PARK

So shut the FARK up if you don't like dog off leash go to a park that isn't designated.

And I am sure there are no bums and drugs in Tampa
 
2003-07-18 12:47:20 PM  
ZzeusS, I know what you are talking about. We use to have people who lived on the ground floor of our condo complex and raised Dalmations. The adults were left outside and the crap piled up to the point the smell gased the upper floors. A few splashes of ammonia from a neighbor and the dogs were gone. They moved. But the grass is ruined.

Had one lady who took her dog for potty breaks and always had a plastic bag displayed. She never used the bag though. Caught her on a video camera. She finally stopped when one night a huge pile of crap appeared in front of her door. She biatch for weeks about how gross that was.

Why do people who live in apartments and condos have these hude dogs and think the rest of us should enjoy them
 
2003-07-18 12:47:50 PM  
DaterapeJeff

We do have a few dog parks, and many people use them. In fact, most of the time they're pretty overcrowded. Plus I think a lot of it has to do with laziness. People just don't want to go out of their way to use a dog park when there's a nice big public park much closer by. We could definitely use some more dog parks in this city.
 
2003-07-18 12:48:28 PM  
We had a bout with Oregon's politics 10 years ago, they tried to export gay bashing to Washington State, and we had "Hands Off Washington" to shut it down at the border. It worked too. Even people that didn't support full on gay rights were like, damn straight (heh) keep that Oregon crap out of our homeland.

Don't blame oregon for that - it failed here too. Blame the OCA.
This dude from the OCA came to my school and gave a speech in one of our classes (on comparative religion). I wasn't in that class that semester, but I heard all sorts of stories about the guy ending up running to his car with kids throwing pencils and crayons at him from the third story windows.
 
2003-07-18 12:49:09 PM  
i nominate myself to sit quitely in a tree with my sniper rifle waiting to put a slug between this sick puds eyes. im no peta freak, in fact the only animals that i care for are cats, dogs, rabbits and snakes, but to poison other peoples animals with fertilizer (or anything else for that matter) is truly disgusting. that being said, if some of these people had obeyed the leash law, im guessing at least a few of those dogs may still be alive. i myself absolutely will not take my dogs anywhere in public unless they are on a short leash. i have an american pit bull terrier and a doberman and the only time they can be off their leashes is when we take field trips to my parents farm to play with my step dads black labs. one of my biggest pet peeves is city folk whom buy super energetic or larger breeds such as labs or pits and are too damn lazy to play with them or give them enough exercise. Dallas, my pit, is so damn hyper when i get home from work that it takes about an hour of frisbee or tennis ball before he is ready for bed.
hell look what youve made me done, once i start talking about my dogs its hard for me to stop. i can honestly say that i have had maybe 7 or 8 best friends in my life and half of them have been dogs that i own or currently own. based on some past threads, it sounds like plenty of other farkers can relate. the hardest thing i have ever had to do in my life was take my lab onyx to the vet to be put down. he was 12 years old and was constantly suffering from seizures and arthritis. Even in his pain and suffering, onyx liked nothing more than to make me happy. he would always be up and ready to tackle morning chores to the very last day he was with me. i cried for 5 days after he was put down. i was 22 years old. i had to take a godamn day off work (i told my boss my grandpa died) to pull myself together. damn. im crying now just thinking about him. he lived a damn fine life and seemed to enjoy it until the very end. it must really suck for these people who have had their dogs taken away in such a disgusting manner. well in any case, sorry about the sort-of off topic rant. hopefully we can get some pics of drews new baby to photoshop...errr..oogle over.

good day
 
2003-07-18 12:51:40 PM  
HA HA!!

Good for him...
Leash your farking fleabag losers!!
 
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