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(Orlando Sentinel)   Pearl Harbor survivor, held as a prisoner, is rescued 70 years after Pearl Harbor because his bank wondered why he hadn't been by lately   (orlandosentinel.com) divider line 130
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2011-01-31 12:20:37 AM
People who abuse frail, confused, elderly people should be set on fire and then drowned.
 
2011-01-31 12:21:34 AM
I'm not sure what being a survivor of Pearl Harbor has to do with it. As if abusing old people who were not there is somehow better.
 
2011-01-31 12:23:14 AM
Well, that was a poorly worded headline.
 
2011-01-31 12:23:29 AM
Goddamn, that's depressing as hell.

JWF85: I'm not sure what being a survivor of Pearl Harbor has to do with it. As if abusing old people who were not there is somehow better.


"
When deputies arrived at the home in unincorporated El Cajon on Tuesday, they found Bauer clutching a photograph of his ship, the USS Vestal, said Sgt. Mark Varnau of the Sheriff Department's Elder Abuse Unit.

"

/TFA
 
2011-01-31 12:26:29 AM

JWF85: I'm not sure what being a survivor of Pearl Harbor has to do with it. As if abusing old people who were not there is somehow better.


There's a general concept that those who have contributed greatly to protecting America's freedoms are more deserving of protection in their old age.

What's sad too is that the Filipina "caring" for him was born only a few years after America repelled the brutal Japanese occupation. If anyone should carry a special flame for WWII veterans, it should be those freed from the war's vicious aggressors.
 
2011-01-31 12:26:36 AM

Gyrfalcon: People who abuse frail, confused, elderly people should be set on fire and then drowned.


More so when one considers the fact that the abuser was born in 1948, and only because of people like Arnold Bauer.
 
2011-01-31 12:27:51 AM

rebelyell2006: Gyrfalcon: People who abuse frail, confused, elderly people should be set on fire and then drowned.

More so when one considers the fact that the abuser was born in 1948, and only because of people like Arnold Bauer.


Amen to that.
 
2011-01-31 12:28:43 AM

Gyrfalcon: People who abuse frail, confused, elderly people should be set on fire and then drowned.


I'm thinking a tank of flaming liquid then they get the choice of burning, drowning or both.
 
2011-01-31 12:28:51 AM
The Filipinos will take good care of this lady.
 
2011-01-31 12:30:28 AM

TheShavingofOccam123: The Filipinos will take good care of this lady.


Seriously. Give her to some Filipinos of her parents' generation, and their choice of implements. Problem solved.
 
2011-01-31 12:31:03 AM
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I wonder if the trial will be on TV?
 
2011-01-31 12:31:39 AM

Unda: JWF85: I'm not sure what being a survivor of Pearl Harbor has to do with it. As if abusing old people who were not there is somehow better.

There's a general concept that those who have contributed greatly to protecting America's freedoms are more deserving of protection in their old age.

What's sad too is that the Filipina "caring" for him was born only a few years after America repelled the brutal Japanese occupation. If anyone should carry a special flame for WWII veterans, it should be those freed from the war's vicious aggressors.


It's still irrelevant... the writer padded the story and tried too hard to make the victim sympathetic. Such obvious attempts at emotional manipulation are distracting and annoying.
 
2011-01-31 12:31:42 AM
At least his kids won't get some of his money. Too busy to visit? No inheritance for you.
 
2011-01-31 12:32:26 AM
So he survived the bombing of Pearl Harbor by the Germans, just to be abused in his old age?
 
2011-01-31 12:36:12 AM
In cases like this I advocate suspension of rights, slavery and murder.
 
2011-01-31 12:36:30 AM

skinink: So he survived the bombing of Pearl Harbor by the Germans, just to be abused in his old age?


Just goes to show, no matter how much you do for your country and/or others, there's always going to be people who will take advantage of you because they can.

Those people should be shot.
 
2011-01-31 12:40:16 AM

skinink: So he survived the bombing of Pearl Harbor by the Germans, just to be abused in his old age?


Those Germans get around, don't they.
 
2011-01-31 12:40:48 AM

Unda: JWF85: I'm not sure what being a survivor of Pearl Harbor has to do with it. As if abusing old people who were not there is somehow better.

There's a general concept that those who have contributed greatly to protecting America's freedoms are more deserving of protection in their old age.

What's sad too is that the Filipina "caring" for him was born only a few years after America repelled the brutal Japanese occupation. If anyone should carry a special flame for WWII veterans, it should be those freed from the war's vicious aggressors.


I prefer the general concept that every human deserves the same level of protection in their old age.

Besides, for all we know, this guy just hid behind a palm tree until the whole thing just blew over.*

*not intended to be taken seriously. sheesh.
 
2011-01-31 12:42:58 AM
Milagros Angeles, 62, is charged with false imprisonment of an elder, theft by a caretaker and altering checks to steal thousands of dollars from her employer.

So is Mexico finally taking sides in WWII?
 
2011-01-31 12:43:05 AM
FTA: "The war veteran's bank became concerned when employees noticed he hadn't been in since October and notified Adult Protective Services"


This is the real news story. It's refreshing to see some people actually care and know the proper channels for checking someone's welfare. I wonder how many other people this guy had regular contact with who didn't notice or didn't give a shiat when he stopped showing up, stopped calling, etc.
 
2011-01-31 12:44:56 AM
So... somebody's green card isn't getting renewed, I take it?

Good to see bankers actually doing something that benefits a customer, for a change...
 
2011-01-31 12:45:11 AM
given his age, it's quite possible that his children are rather old themselves, and maybe have health problems that prevent them from caring for this poor old guy. Also, I would like to think that someone would care about me when I'm old, even if I haven't fought in a war.
Not sure anyone will, though.
 
2011-01-31 12:47:01 AM
His two children live in Santa Barbara and San Pedro but they ?were unaware of their father's living conditions and hadn't visited for a significant period of time, Varnau said.

Wow. That says it all, right there. The kids didn't want to be bothered, so they hired a caretaker and lived half and ocean away where they couldn't supervise her. And I bet they didn't even call regularly either. Guy was basically abandoned by his family.
 
2011-01-31 12:47:50 AM

Divine: Unda: JWF85: I'm not sure what being a survivor of Pearl Harbor has to do with it. As if abusing old people who were not there is somehow better.

There's a general concept that those who have contributed greatly to protecting America's freedoms are more deserving of protection in their old age.

What's sad too is that the Filipina "caring" for him was born only a few years after America repelled the brutal Japanese occupation. If anyone should carry a special flame for WWII veterans, it should be those freed from the war's vicious aggressors.

It's still irrelevant... the writer padded the story and tried too hard to make the victim sympathetic. Such obvious attempts at emotional manipulation are distracting and annoying.


Yeah, well, screw you too. Nobody's going to be crying much when it's your turn.
 
2011-01-31 12:49:05 AM
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2011-01-31 12:49:34 AM
Trolltastic headline. What does the 70 years have to do with anything.
 
2011-01-31 12:50:17 AM
El Cajon has like the worst unemployment in the nation.
 
2011-01-31 12:50:30 AM
I just visited Pearl Harbor last week, so I'm getting a kick out of these replies.

Image 9 on the photo page shows a message from the caretaker taped to a lamp. It is a reminder not to turn the lamp off in the evenings.

I'm curious what the caretaker's responsibility was to be in this case. It's terrible that the guy is living in squalor, but if she was his nurse and not his maid, I can't see why they are charging her with abuse.

There is the 28,000 dollars she allegedly stole, but I don't see any evidence one way or the other in the article. As the man was senile and rejected the investigators when they came, I could see him also making false claims of criminal mischief against her.
 
2011-01-31 12:50:54 AM
fusillade762 2011-01-31 12:42:58 AM
Milagros Angeles, 62, is charged with false imprisonment of an elder, theft by a caretaker and altering checks to steal thousands of dollars from her employer.

So is Mexico finally taking sides in WWII?


Didn't read the article, did you? It's okay, just admit it.
 
2011-01-31 12:51:03 AM

chookbillion: given his age, it's quite possible that his children are rather old themselves, and maybe have health problems that prevent them from caring for this poor old guy. Also, I would like to think that someone would care about me when I'm old, even if I haven't fought in a war.
Not sure anyone will, though.



Correct. At 93, it's possible he's outlived his children, if he ever had any. If he didn't, he's probably outlived everybody who was ever close to him. That's tough enough, without some biatch taking advantage of him like this on top of it.

My grandfather is a Pearl Harbor survivor -- had to abandon ship and everything -- and if this happened to him I'd be plotting ways to get my own personal justice against the person who did it.
 
2011-01-31 12:51:30 AM
A bank worried about the welfare of one of their customers?

Must have been a credit union.
 
2011-01-31 12:55:54 AM

AverageAmericanGuy: It's terrible that the guy is living in squalor, but if she was his nurse and not his maid, I can't see why they are charging her with abuse.



So the guy's farking BANK cared more about him than his nurse? My guess is that if part of the charges involve the living conditions he was living in, the nurse/maid/whatever was responsible for it.

Unfortunately, this shiat is pretty common. I hope they make an example out of her.
 
2011-01-31 12:57:13 AM

shower_in_my_socks: AverageAmericanGuy: It's terrible that the guy is living in squalor, but if she was his nurse and not his maid, I can't see why they are charging her with abuse.


So the guy's farking BANK cared more about him than his nurse? My guess is that if part of the charges involve the living conditions he was living in, the nurse/maid/whatever was responsible for it.

Unfortunately, this shiat is pretty common. I hope they make an example out of her.


His nurse cared more about him than his kids? That shiat is pretty common too. Maybe they should make an example out of them as well.
 
2011-01-31 01:00:02 AM

platedlizard: Wow. That says it all, right there. The kids didn't want to be bothered, so they hired a caretaker and lived half and ocean away where they couldn't supervise her. And I bet they didn't even call regularly either. Guy was basically abandoned by his family.


The kids are likely in their 70s and not in the best position to properly care for a 90-year-old with Alzheimer's.
 
2011-01-31 01:06:18 AM

skinink: So he survived the bombing of Pearl Harbor by the Germans, just to be abused in his old age?


God I hope you're kidding. If not, you seriously make my brain hurt.
 
2011-01-31 01:07:39 AM

hatelabs: I wonder if the trial will be on TV?


Uh, no... no....
 
2011-01-31 01:09:37 AM
where were any neighbors? i completely understand it is the kids responsibility, but come on. an occasional knock on the door this could've been nipped in the bud.

i'd never let this happen to my elderly neighbors or my parents.

/holy than tho
// blah blah blah
 
2011-01-31 01:09:53 AM

hollowmoon: skinink: So he survived the bombing of Pearl Harbor by the Germans, just to be abused in his old age?

God I hope you're kidding. If not, you seriously make my brain hurt.


New here?
 
2011-01-31 01:09:54 AM

SchlingFocker: platedlizard: Wow. That says it all, right there. The kids didn't want to be bothered, so they hired a caretaker and lived half and ocean away where they couldn't supervise her. And I bet they didn't even call regularly either. Guy was basically abandoned by his family.

The kids are likely in their 70s and not in the best position to properly care for a 90-year-old with Alzheimer's.


Agreed....and this is an issue of refusing to live in inter-generation situation. Were younger generations welcome the older and the older help out the younger.
 
2011-01-31 01:10:40 AM

fusillade762: Mex


FTA...Varnau said Angeles is a legal resident from the Philippines but doesn't have permanent residency status.
 
2011-01-31 01:11:56 AM
I do believe, fellas, that the headline is meant to be intentionally misleading.
 
2011-01-31 01:12:37 AM

rebelyell2006: Gyrfalcon: People who abuse frail, confused, elderly people should be set on fire and then drowned.

More so when one considers the fact that the abuser was born in 1948, and only because of people like Arnold Bauer.



Yeah, I read a lot of Yank soldiers back then were frisky towards the Filipinas. It would be ironic if the 'carer' turn out to be his daughter!!
 
2011-01-31 01:15:19 AM

Wasilla Hillbilly: hollowmoon: skinink: So he survived the bombing of Pearl Harbor by the Germans, just to be abused in his old age?

God I hope you're kidding. If not, you seriously make my brain hurt.

New here?


Not in the slightest. It hurts me that people really are that dumb. Not saying that skinink is, but lots of people are.
 
2011-01-31 01:16:30 AM
what an ungrateful sow. I say we force her to work as a lowly janitor in the headquarters of Sony in Tokyo for no pay. Give the beeotch a taste of what it COULD have been like for Fillipinos like her if the US didn't retake their farking islands.
 
2011-01-31 01:17:54 AM

here4few: SchlingFocker: platedlizard: Wow. That says it all, right there. The kids didn't want to be bothered, so they hired a caretaker and lived half and ocean away where they couldn't supervise her. And I bet they didn't even call regularly either. Guy was basically abandoned by his family.

The kids are likely in their 70s and not in the best position to properly care for a 90-year-old with Alzheimer's.

Agreed....and this is an issue of refusing to live in inter-generation situation. Were younger generations welcome the older and the older help out the younger.


There's a limit to reasonableness with that. Are two married 52-year-olds, who may not be in the best medical health themselves, supposed to care for four 70-year-old-parents and sixteen 90-year old grandparents?

As the population starts growing older with advances in medical science, we may someday, fairly soon, face a serious quandary with this exact problem.
 
2011-01-31 01:18:40 AM

Xyzzyka: I do believe, fellas, that the headline is meant to be intentionally misleading.


I thought so too, but it's not really funny, or clever. So I read the headline. Read the article, looked at the headline again. Then I scratched my balls and made this post.

/the end
 
2011-01-31 01:20:08 AM
Hang the li'l brown biatch.
 
2011-01-31 01:20:26 AM

hollowmoon: Wasilla Hillbilly: hollowmoon: skinink: So he survived the bombing of Pearl Harbor by the Germans, just to be abused in his old age?

God I hope you're kidding. If not, you seriously make my brain hurt.

New here?

Not in the slightest. It hurts me that people really are that dumb. Not saying that skinink is, but lots of people are.



I've heard tell of people who fervently believe the Panama Canal was dug horizontally across Mexico.
 
2011-01-31 01:20:38 AM

hollowmoon: Wasilla Hillbilly: hollowmoon: skinink: So he survived the bombing of Pearl Harbor by the Germans, just to be abused in his old age?

God I hope you're kidding. If not, you seriously make my brain hurt.

New here?

Not in the slightest. It hurts me that people really are that dumb. Not saying that skinink is, but lots of people are.


That part that I highlighted is called a meme. Try to keep up.
 
2011-01-31 01:21:17 AM

hollowmoon: Wasilla Hillbilly: hollowmoon: skinink: So he survived the bombing of Pearl Harbor by the Germans, just to be abused in his old age?

God I hope you're kidding. If not, you seriously make my brain hurt.

New here?

Not in the slightest. It hurts me that people really are that dumb. Not saying that skinink is, but lots of people are.


Was it over when the Germans bombed Pearl Harbor? (new window)

Now you're up to speed
 
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