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2011-01-30 07:08:36 PM
I love how the only person without a real problem with this is the pastor
 
2011-01-30 07:48:27 PM
when you're drowning, you don't ask to see the resume of the guy throwing you a life preserver.
 
2011-01-30 07:50:05 PM
Everybody? I count one person.
 
2011-01-30 07:51:30 PM

Weaver95: when you're drowning, you don't ask to see the resume of the guy throwing you a life preserver.


But that life preserver exploits women, or the invisible man in the sky says that the life preserver is bad, or whatever other dumbass excuse you need!
 
2011-01-30 07:53:48 PM

ArkAngel: I love how the only person without a real problem with this is the pastor


interesting, isn't it?
 
2011-01-30 07:57:00 PM
our only major quarrel's with your total lack of morals.
 
2011-01-30 08:02:15 PM

SilentStrider: our only major quarrel's with your total lack of morals.


hey, I have morals!
 
2011-01-30 08:09:05 PM

SilentStrider: our only major quarrel's with your total lack of morals.


(and to head off any comments at the pass, I know I used an apostrophe incorrectly there)

Weaver95: hey, I have morals!

I really don't know how to respond to this. :P
 
2011-01-30 08:33:54 PM
So, we have a guy who gives hundreds of thousands of dollars a year to help at risk kids...

He runs a legal business...

F*ck you fundies, I hope your kids get teen pregnant and hooked on drugs.
 
2011-01-30 08:43:16 PM

baka-san: So, we have a guy who gives hundreds of thousands of dollars a year to help at risk kids...

He runs a legal business...

F*ck you fundies, I hope your kids get teen pregnant and hooked on drugs.


Yeah, but then they would say it was the fault of guys like the strip club owner, who destroyed the morals of their community by bringing his filth into their back yards.
 
2011-01-30 08:44:44 PM
Two things:

1) I've been to one of his establishments.

2) Of COURSE the pastor has a problem with this. They're going after the same marks.
 
2011-01-30 08:49:33 PM
yeah, the DJ cut the song off after 2 minutes. That was NOT the lap dance I was expecting.
 
2011-01-30 08:49:46 PM

what_now: Two things:

1) I've been to one of his establishments.

2) Of COURSE the pastor has a problem with this. They're going after the same marks.


Uh, no, the guy who was a pastor didn't really care.

FTFA:

"One has to look at the broader picture," Jones said. "This is a business that is legal, even though, in a lot of circles, it isn't fully received by society. But we're not living in a world where anyone is on a perfect pedestal. You have to ask 'Does the good outweigh the bad?' "
 
2011-01-30 08:53:21 PM
Of course they have a problem with this... it might actually improve their child's education, and we can't have that.
 
2011-01-30 08:54:27 PM

Weaver95: SilentStrider: our only major quarrel's with your total lack of morals.

hey, I have morals!


Righ t up till the point that your offered kinky sex by two hot strippers. The the Wang takes over.u
 
2011-01-30 08:55:13 PM
Absolutely stupid. The guy is running a legal business, and if the article is true he's helping his community.

I'd like to see how the school plans to raise the money. Or are they just doing everything they possibly can to dick over poor students?

I'm hopeful he'll find another worthwhile cause that will accept his donation. Sounds like a good guy, even if you don't particularly like strip clubs.
 
2011-01-30 08:55:58 PM
I'm sure the pastor would have been okay with this if he'd been able to sniff each and every single dollar
 
2011-01-30 08:56:02 PM

globalwarmingpraiser: The the Wang takes over.u


Did the wang just take over??
 
2011-01-30 08:58:26 PM
If those children don't get some semblance of education, then they might not even make it to the college which they'll be stripping to pay for.
 
2011-01-30 08:58:35 PM
I have a big problem with this!

I am clearly spending too much money in his clubs if he has all this extra loot lying around.
 
2011-01-30 08:58:39 PM
www.sun-sentinel.com

I like Cheetah in WPB. The staff knows how to a let a girl do her due-diligence in the back-room w/o interruption; plus she sometimes even brings her own snow to the slopes. This article is a bunch of shiat.

/Yes, back-rooms are fun.
//And no, I don't have AIDS/herp/hep/gohn/etc.
///Slashies.
 
2011-01-30 08:58:56 PM

FirstNationalBastard: baka-san: So, we have a guy who gives hundreds of thousands of dollars a year to help at risk kids...

He runs a legal business...

F*ck you fundies, I hope your kids get teen pregnant and hooked on drugs.

Yeah, but then they would say it was the fault of guys like the strip club owner, who destroyed the morals of their community by bringing his filth into their back yards.


Nah. The kids were already messed up. He just provided them a means to earn some money on the side to pay for college. Plus it gets them out of the house for a while and get some exercise.

/th..the ca
//the cat in th......fark this...
 
2011-01-30 09:02:04 PM

SilentStrider: our only major quarrel's with your total lack of morals.


We put the, uh... "oos" in "Roosevelt Elementary"?
 
2011-01-30 09:02:27 PM

fatalvenom: The staff knows how to a let a girl do her due-diligence in the back-room w/o interruption


So he's a weird little fat guy that used to be a shoeshine and now runs a borderline brothel, and all of a sudden he's showing just a little too much interest in the local kids?
 
2011-01-30 09:04:37 PM
I work there.
20 years ago the old owner did the same thing to help out
a little league team that did not raise enough for their uniforms
or their trip to washington. He paid for all of it.

newspaper found out, money returned, no trip for kids, no uniforms.

Joe spends a lot to help others and asks nothing from it..

lame ass people in palm beach
 
2011-01-30 09:05:16 PM

fatalvenom: plus she sometimes even brings her own snow to the slopes. This article is a bunch of shiat.

/Yes, back-rooms are fun.


What does the snow comment mean?

Also, are they farking the girls in the back rooms?

How long have I not known about this?
 
2011-01-30 09:05:43 PM

fatalvenom: I like Cheetah in WPB. The staff knows how to a let a girl do her due-diligence in the back-room w/o interruption; plus she sometimes even brings her own snow to the slopes. This article is a bunch of shiat.

/Yes, back-rooms are fun.
//And no, I don't have AIDS/herp/hep/gohn/etc.
///Slashies.


Does this mean drugs?
 
2011-01-30 09:06:06 PM
FTFA: "It came from someone associated with the exploitation of women - and that demeans half the population," Verdugo said. "If you do that, where do you draw the line? That's not the message to send to kids - that it's OK to exploit women."

No, pastor. I guess the message we SHOULD be sending is that women are like children, incapable of making their own decisions. If they decide to work in a strip club, it must be some evil man making them do it, or tricking them into it or taking advantage of them. Except that doesn't fit the definition of any of the strippers I've known. I guess it doesn't ever occur to people like the good pastor that some people might choose to do things that the pastor would not choose to do. But then, that must make them wrong, right?
 
2011-01-30 09:06:09 PM
FTFA:"It came from someone associated with the exploitation of women - and that demeans half the population," Verdugo said. "If you do that, where do you draw the line? That's not the message to send to kids - that it's OK to exploit women."

Strip clubs don't exploit women, they exploit MEN. Men are the patrons targeted by strippers and strip club owners. Strip clubs allow women with absolutely NO skill set to gyrate in front of a man and make a LOT of money. The men are the victims here, because we are being played on an evolutionary level. Man would move the earth to see that, but the owners have made it convenient by allowing you to simply give them your paycheck to get it.

/This guy is awesome too. Self made man that is living a good life and gives back. And he isn't donating to some frou-frou celebrity backed African AIDS charity, no, he is giving money to the COMMUNITY around him. That's how it is done folks.
 
2011-01-30 09:06:47 PM
Step 1: Profit!
Step 2: Buy $20,000 worth of gift cards for school clothes and supplies.
Step 3: Hold a pep rally on a Saturday. Invite every family in the district.
Step 4: Get a head count of the minors in the audience, distribute the supplies evenly.
Step 5: ??? (in which the uptight fundies don't get squat)
Step 6: Tax deduction!

/first time Profit! ever took place in step 1
//have to make sure the parents spend the gift cards on the intended use, that's the only weakness in my otherwise clever plan
///slash slash slash
 
2011-01-30 09:06:53 PM

FirstNationalBastard: "One has to look at the broader picture," Jones said. "This is a business that is legal, even though, in a lot of circles, it isn't fully received by society. But we're not living in a world where anyone is on a perfect pedestal. You have to ask 'Does the good outweigh the bad?' "


If I rob a bank and donate the money to charity, does the good outweigh the bad? If I cover a hobo in blood and drop him off at the police station so he will get 3 meals a day, a roof over his head, and a bed to sleep on, does the good outweigh the bad?
 
2011-01-30 09:08:05 PM

SilentStrider: SilentStrider: our only major quarrel's with your total lack of morals.

(and to head off any comment's at the pass, I know I used an apostrophe incorrectly there)


Uh, no you didn't. Your apostrophe is marking a contraction.
quarrel's = quarrel is
Our only major quarrel is with your total lack of morals. You were right the first time.
 
2011-01-30 09:08:07 PM

SilentStrider: (and to head off any comments at the pass, I know I used an apostrophe incorrectly there)


Why? You used a valid contraction of "is." For example: "The cat's in the cradle."
 
2011-01-30 09:08:54 PM
FTFA: "It came from someone associated with the exploitation of women - and that demeans half the population," Verdugo said. "If you do that, where do you draw the line? That's not the message to send to kids - that it's OK to exploit women."


Is it really exploitation when these women voluntarily sign up to be dancers? I'm going with no.

Also, I highly doubt the kids are going to be asking where their new books and computers came from.
 
2011-01-30 09:09:30 PM

SilentStrider: SilentStrider: our only major quarrel's with your total lack of morals.

(and to head off any comments at the pass, I know I used an apostrophe incorrectly there)

.
.
You used it correctly.

Was that a troll?
 
2011-01-30 09:10:08 PM

GoSurfing: /This guy is awesome too. Self made man that is living a good life and gives back. And he isn't donating to some frou-frou celebrity backed African AIDS charity, no, he is giving money to the COMMUNITY around him. That's how it is done folks.


Giving money to the community that was coming from members of the community who would rather go to strip clubs than help their own community.

Sigh.
 
2011-01-30 09:10:18 PM

Tobin_Lam: FirstNationalBastard: "One has to look at the broader picture," Jones said. "This is a business that is legal, even though, in a lot of circles, it isn't fully received by society. But we're not living in a world where anyone is on a perfect pedestal. You have to ask 'Does the good outweigh the bad?' "

If I rob a bank taxpayer and donate redistribute the money to charity through welfare programs, does the good outweigh the bad? If I cover a hobo in blood and drop him off at the police station so he will get 3 meals a day, a roof over his head, and a bed to sleep on, does the good outweigh the bad?


No. No it does not. However, this guy didn't steal anyone's money. They handed it over voluntarily, to people who voluntarily sought employment at the establishment. Where's the evil in that? Both of your examples relied on non-consensual acts to make them bad. Where is the non-consensual act in the real story?
 
2011-01-30 09:10:32 PM
"Exploiting Women"

What a bunch of BS.
 
2011-01-30 09:10:43 PM
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2011-01-30 09:11:33 PM

untaken_name: FTFA: "It came from someone associated with the exploitation of women - and that demeans half the population," Verdugo said. "If you do that, where do you draw the line? That's not the message to send to kids - that it's OK to exploit women."

No, pastor. I guess the message we SHOULD be sending is that women are like children, incapable of making their own decisions. If they decide to work in a strip club, it must be some evil man making them do it, or tricking them into it or taking advantage of them. Except that doesn't fit the definition of any of the strippers I've known. I guess it doesn't ever occur to people like the good pastor that some people might choose to do things that the pastor would not choose to do. But then, that must make them wrong, right?


FYI, Christian Verdugo is head of the Florida Christian Family Coalition. I don't think he is a pastor.
 
2011-01-30 09:11:59 PM

Crown_of_Shoes: fatalvenom: plus she sometimes even brings her own snow to the slopes. This article is a bunch of shiat.

/Yes, back-rooms are fun.

What does the snow comment mean?

Also, are they farking the girls in the back rooms?

How long have I not known about this?


Snow comment?

stuntbox.com

We don't ski in S. FL, unless it's at a strip-club or on water.


Farking chicks in the back room?


Been doing it since I turned 18. My cack hasn't rotted-off yet; god-bless me.


How long have you not known about it?


Bro; some powder, cash, and a half-way decent smile will get you anything you want a strip-club.


Charge that to tha game SON!!!
www.bittenandbound.com
 
2011-01-30 09:12:45 PM

untaken_name: Tobin_Lam: FirstNationalBastard: "One has to look at the broader picture," Jones said. "This is a business that is legal, even though, in a lot of circles, it isn't fully received by society. But we're not living in a world where anyone is on a perfect pedestal. You have to ask 'Does the good outweigh the bad?' "

If I rob a bank taxpayer and donate redistribute the money to charity through welfare programs, does the good outweigh the bad? If I cover a hobo in blood and drop him off at the police station so he will get 3 meals a day, a roof over his head, and a bed to sleep on, does the good outweigh the bad?

No. No it does not. However, this guy didn't steal anyone's money. They handed it over voluntarily, to people who voluntarily sought employment at the establishment. Where's the evil in that? Both of your examples relied on non-consensual acts to make them bad. Where is the non-consensual act in the real story?


The strippers get paid by customers and paid by the establishment? How does the establishment make money?
 
2011-01-30 09:13:10 PM
I'n glad that the fundies are putting their money where their mouth is, and ponying up the replacement $20K to help the schools, the same way they bought uniforms and sent those kids up to DC 20 years ago....

/oh wait
 
2011-01-30 09:13:54 PM
Like, coke?
 
2011-01-30 09:14:04 PM

Je5tEr: Sigh.


Call the waaambulance. At least they are purchasing a service provided in the good ol' US of A. They could have just gone out and bought a bunch of shiatty goods made in China instead, and then you'd get NO money back. How about that?
 
2011-01-30 09:15:34 PM

astonrickenbach: FYI, Christian Verdugo is head of the Florida Christian Family Coalition. I don't think he is a pastor.


Sorry for the poor word choice. I just figured that anyone who'd head up an organization like that would at least be ordained. My mistake.
 
2011-01-30 09:15:42 PM
"It came from someone associated with the exploitation of women - and that demeans half the population," Verdugo said. "If you do that, where do you draw the line? That's not the message to send to kids - that it's OK to exploit women."

So I guess they'd return a charity gift from Walmart since they exploit poor workers and child-laborers in the far east?

The pastor made the most sense. Verdugo, who is head of some idiotic moral outrage group (probably a bunch of uptight, holier-than-thou Christian hypocrites), doesn't speak for most people who follow Christ. I know it's hard for some farkers to believe, but it's the same as thinking that Al Sharpton speaks for all African Americans.
 
2011-01-30 09:18:45 PM

tbyte: The strippers get paid by customers and paid by the establishment? How does the establishment make money?


It charges at the door and it sells drinks (and sometimes takes a cut of the dancer's tips). I am guessing you're not too familiar with how strip clubs work, are you? At some establishments, the dancers are paid a small amount in addition to their tips, in some they work for tips only, and in some they must pay a fee (straight fee or commission) to work there.
 
2011-01-30 09:19:35 PM

GoSurfing: FTFA:"It came from someone associated with the exploitation of women - and that demeans half the population," Verdugo said. "If you do that, where do you draw the line? That's not the message to send to kids - that it's OK to exploit women."

Strip clubs don't exploit women, they exploit MEN. Men are the patrons targeted by strippers and strip club owners. Strip clubs allow women with absolutely NO skill set to gyrate in front of a man and make a LOT of money. The men are the victims here, because we are being played on an evolutionary level. Man would move the earth to see that, but the owners have made it convenient by allowing you to simply give them your paycheck to get it.


Yeah, more or less this. I will say that some of my best friends have been strippers too and even though they fleeced the wallets of most patrons (mine too - that's how I met most of them) most of them didn't really enjoy it.

of course they enjoyed the easy money - that's why they did it, but a few who I knew just couldn't deal with the job without drinking constantly.

I got sick of the exploitation too (mostly of my wallet) which is why I haven't been to a titty bar in years.

But if I ever find out where The Spanish Moon (new window) is I'll be all over it like a fly on shiat.
 
2011-01-30 09:19:51 PM

VictorOfBorge: "It came from someone associated with the exploitation of women - and that demeans half the population," Verdugo said. "If you do that, where do you draw the line? That's not the message to send to kids - that it's OK to exploit women."

So I guess they'd return a charity gift from Walmart since they exploit poor workers and child-laborers in the far east?

The pastor made the most sense. Verdugo, who is head of some idiotic moral outrage group (probably a bunch of uptight, holier-than-thou Christian hypocrites), doesn't speak for most people who follow Christ. I know it's hard for some farkers to believe, but it's the same as thinking that Al Sharpton speaks for all African Americans.


Yeah, that's idiocy. Everyone knows it's Kanye West.
 
2011-01-30 09:20:56 PM
I wonder how many of the teachers are farking their students, and how many of those people objecting to this guy's donation drive drunk on weekends.

But oh, no. We can't take money from a guy that is operating legally and pays his taxes. That would just be WRONG!

Perhaps instead, the Christian Family Coalition should donate $20,000 to the school. "Inasmuch as ye did it unto one of these my brethren, even these least, ye did it unto me."
 
2011-01-30 09:21:04 PM
If it's just a moral question then I think you should let them donate - sheesh McDonalds sponsors hospital wards you know.

Personally I would be more offended if the donation money came from BP, Halliburton or some company that did experiments on little puppies. It sounds like the ultra-righteous nut jobs have had their way here.

Think of it like some of the dad's money that he used at this 'immoral' place is being sent out to his kids school.
 
2011-01-30 09:21:37 PM
They tried to pass what was euphemistically called the "Pole Tax" here in Texas a couple years back. It went to the State Supreme Court.

So, how is it different if the state mandates a $5 fee from each customer, or if the owner donates it voluntarily? The money is still coming from guys who want to see boobies.
 
2011-01-30 09:22:32 PM

FARTNOISE FARTNOISE JUNIOR: SilentStrider: SilentStrider: our only major quarrel's with your total lack of morals.

(and to head off any comment's at the pass, I know I used an apostrophe incorrectly there)

Uh, no you didn't. Your apostrophe is marking a contraction.
quarrel's = quarrel is
Our only major quarrel is with your total lack of morals. You were right the first time.


James F. Campbell: SilentStrider: (and to head off any comments at the pass, I know I used an apostrophe incorrectly there)

Why? You used a valid contraction of "is." For example: "The cat's in the cradle."

.
.
Lick my balls both of you. I typed it first.

/Goddam lagging piece of shiat
//FPS Doug
 
2011-01-30 09:23:21 PM
I think it's funny that people always think it's the women that are exploited @ the strip clubs. Us guys are the ones who always leave there broke.

/haven't been in years I swear
//Don't give your cell # to a stripper... it always ends badly.
 
2011-01-30 09:23:35 PM

untaken_name: astonrickenbach: FYI, Christian Verdugo is head of the Florida Christian Family Coalition. I don't think he is a pastor.

Sorry for the poor word choice. I just figured that anyone who'd head up an organization like that would at least be ordained. My mistake.


NP, I figured the same thing and was surprised he wasn't. Looked him up on several sources and nothing said he was. I guess all the real pastors are out making a difference in peoples lives.
 
2011-01-30 09:23:35 PM
That guy looks exactly like what I would imagine a strip club owner looking like. He owns the Cheetah Clubs as well? I've been to his establishments a couple of times and I must say the man puts forth a quality product.
 
2011-01-30 09:24:31 PM

Dow Jones and the Temple of Doom: fatalvenom: I like Cheetah in WPB. The staff knows how to a let a girl do her due-diligence in the back-room w/o interruption; plus she sometimes even brings her own snow to the slopes. This article is a bunch of shiat.

/Yes, back-rooms are fun.
//And no, I don't have AIDS/herp/hep/gohn/etc.
///Slashies.

Does this mean drugs?


Yeah. Fatalvenom likes him some meth.
 
2011-01-30 09:24:47 PM
I don't get strip clubs. You get all worked up and then what?
 
2011-01-30 09:25:08 PM
Wow, the pastor has no real issue with this. The school district does, but I've still not read or heard anywhere regarding the parents of said school district having an issue with this either. I love and miss George Carlin, he'd had loved giving the middle finger to what he called "Dockers wearing hypocrite f..kers."

/pastor unwittingly gained free access to the Champagne room
 
2011-01-30 09:25:23 PM
He's more than welcome to give that $ to me, since like $50 was mine to begin with.
 
2011-01-30 09:25:42 PM

rebelyell2006: Yeah. Fatalvenom likes him some meth down on their luck single mothers, with mouths to feed and a coke problem.



Yup.
 
2011-01-30 09:28:33 PM

zilong: I don't get strip clubs. You get all worked up and then what?


Save the memories in the Spank Bank.
 
2011-01-30 09:28:42 PM

zilong: I don't get strip clubs. You get all worked up and then what?


The you purchase a premium membership that gives you access to private party room and make it clear to the stripper you have a nice roll of cash.
 
2011-01-30 09:29:05 PM
This business man is just helping all the kids out. Today with an education, tomorrow with a job for some of them.

randomfunnypicture.com

/an oldie, but still funny
 
2011-01-30 09:30:19 PM

untaken_name: tbyte: The strippers get paid by customers and paid by the establishment? How does the establishment make money?

It charges at the door and it sells drinks (and sometimes takes a cut of the dancer's tips). I am guessing you're not too familiar with how strip clubs work, are you? At some establishments, the dancers are paid a small amount in addition to their tips, in some they work for tips only, and in some they must pay a fee (straight fee or commission) to work there.


No, I'm not. I was dragged around to a couple of them about 10 years ago, but I was not a fan of the whole atmosphere. I do remember paying for a "VIP" card (every person there was a "VIP") and the strippers trying to get me to buy them Mountain Dew. And one wanted me to sell her drugs, which I did not have.
 
2011-01-30 09:31:18 PM
Here's how to launder the money to make it clean.

1. Run strip club business
2. Get taxed by the city, county, state for your business
3. Pay school districts with taxed money

Congratulations, this money is now clean and safe to use!
 
2011-01-30 09:32:19 PM

zilong: I don't get strip clubs. You get all worked up and then what?


yourcity.backpage.com/escorts
 
2011-01-30 09:33:00 PM

Weaver95: SilentStrider: our only major quarrel's with your total lack of morals.

hey, I have morals!



So do I. Want some?
mobflog.files.wordpress.com


/hot
//I'm a bad bad person
 
2011-01-30 09:37:03 PM
Shouldn't there be pictures so we will know what strippers might look like?
 
2011-01-30 09:37:25 PM

what_now: Two things:

1) I've been to one of his establishments.

2) Of COURSE the pastor has a problem with this. They're going after the same marks.



Oh look, another religion bigot who can't read.
 
2011-01-30 09:41:12 PM

untaken_name: tbyte: The strippers get paid by customers and paid by the establishment? How does the establishment make money?

It charges at the door and it sells drinks (and sometimes takes a cut of the dancer's tips). I am guessing you're not too familiar with how strip clubs work, are you? At some establishments, the dancers are paid a small amount in addition to their tips, in some they work for tips only, and in some they must pay a fee (straight fee or commission) to work there.


The strippers (at least at the clubs that I've been to enough to understand how things work) are contractors. They have to "tip out" before they leave. I'm not really sure if it's a percentage of their tips/table dances or if it's a set amount. If it's a percentage, then there are going to be huge problems with dancers under-reporting tips (like there is with the IRS) so I suspect it's a set fee.

I've also never seen any arguments over the tip-out which suggests to me that it's a fixed amount.

I've seen dancers fight about anything else. One fight was really funny because it was about me. I went to this club where I often went and the dancer who usually gave me table dances was with another customer. No big deal I thought. I'll get a dance from this other girl. Adrianna (my usual dancer) was pissed though. How dare this other girl give me a lap dance because she was busy giving a lap dance to someone else!

I don't really miss going to strip clubs. Oh, who the hell am I kidding? If there were any decent ones in this hick town I live in now I'd probably be there.
 
2011-01-30 09:41:43 PM

GoSurfing: Je5tEr: Sigh.

Call the waaambulance. At least they are purchasing a service provided in the good ol' US of A. They could have just gone out and bought a bunch of shiatty goods made in China instead, and then you'd get NO money back. How about that?


You missed the farking point. The charitable one is getting chastised when its the people going to the joint that should have people yelling at them about why they spend their money on strippers and not help their own community.
 
2011-01-30 09:42:07 PM
If you look at in an objective sense the strip club owner is the one who is facing a potential loss here. I mean if he keeps a lot of these girls in school then it reduces their chances of ending up on the pole (of course that all depends on the economy and whatnot).

Yet people have a problem with this?
 
2011-01-30 09:42:14 PM

Dow Jones and the Temple of Doom: globalwarmingpraiser: The the Wang takes over.u

Did the wang just take over??


Yes he did.

http://sffandom.wordpress.com/2010/05/04/garrett-wang-takes-over-dragoncons-tr ek -track/
 
2011-01-30 09:42:58 PM

tbyte: untaken_name: tbyte: The strippers get paid by customers and paid by the establishment? How does the establishment make money?

It charges at the door and it sells drinks (and sometimes takes a cut of the dancer's tips). I am guessing you're not too familiar with how strip clubs work, are you? At some establishments, the dancers are paid a small amount in addition to their tips, in some they work for tips only, and in some they must pay a fee (straight fee or commission) to work there.

No, I'm not. I was dragged around to a couple of them about 10 years ago, but I was not a fan of the whole atmosphere. I do remember paying for a "VIP" card (every person there was a "VIP") and the strippers trying to get me to buy them Mountain Dew. And one wanted me to sell her drugs, which I did not have.


The funny part is that I am not a strip club patron. I've just known a lot of strippers - one of my ex-gf's best friends was one, and if you have one around, you meet a ton of them. They are usually talking about work (like any other group of co-workers do).
 
2011-01-30 09:49:41 PM

Nocens: Oh look, another religion bigot who can't read


What did he say that was bigoted about religion? He seemed to be insulting strip club owners, though.

In his defense: a pastor was fine with it, but it was a religious group that was overtly outraged.
 
2011-01-30 09:49:50 PM

Tobin_Lam: FirstNationalBastard: "One has to look at the broader picture," Jones said. "This is a business that is legal, even though, in a lot of circles, it isn't fully received by society. But we're not living in a world where anyone is on a perfect pedestal. You have to ask 'Does the good outweigh the bad?' "

If I rob a bank and donate the money to charity, does the good outweigh the bad? If I cover a hobo in blood and drop him off at the police station so he will get 3 meals a day, a roof over his head, and a bed to sleep on, does the good outweigh the bad?


If Tobin_Lam spews unrelated rhetoric and hyperbole til blue in the face, does that mean he understands the essence of good will and charity?
 
2011-01-30 09:53:23 PM

fatalvenom: I like Cheetah in WPB. The staff knows how to a let a girl do her due-diligence in the back-room w/o interruption; plus she sometimes even brings her own snow to the slopes. This article is a bunch of shiat.

/Yes, back-rooms are fun.
//And no, I don't have AIDS/herp/hep/gohn/etc.
///Slashies.


You know, one thing comes to mind when I look at this picture.

content6.flixster.com
/"Someone shot the short fat man"
 
2011-01-30 09:53:28 PM
If I owned a Strip Club and needed to do some advertising. I would take all the advertising budget for the year and do something like this too.

Not only do you get to do good for someone else, but you get much, much more moneys worth then you would printing up some fliers or an ad in the local paper. Might need someone to 'mention' it to a local 'Think of the Children!' member though, just to get things rolling.

You wouldn't be able to do it too often though, year after year of *OUTRAGE* would lose impact. But once every 5 or so years would be well spent ad money.
 
2011-01-30 09:54:59 PM
The strip club owner knows more about managing a school and its finances than the disgusting teachers union that rapes our kids future for more pay and a gold plated retirement.
 
2011-01-30 09:55:01 PM

LegacyDL: If you look at in an objective sense the strip club owner is the one who is facing a potential loss here. I mean if he keeps a lot of these girls in school then it reduces their chances of ending up on the pole (of course that all depends on the economy and whatnot).

Yet people have a problem with this?


That's like saying if you supply sandboxes to playgrounds there's a risk of us running out of beaches.

It's not gonna happen.

I didn't even read the article - people have a problem with this?

How about this? The strip club I've probably spent the most money in my lifetime used to be a pizza parlor - where my parents splurged for my birthday party when I was a young kid.

I can say this - there is sex in the champagne room (only they don't call it a champagne room). If you go there enough you can actually date and fark some of the strippers - or maybe I was just that charming. And the waitresses, if you tip them well, will be your best friends ever. Never trust a dancer. If you establish a relationship (yeah, with money, by tipping them and not being an asshole) with a waitress, she will be one of the best friends you could ever have.
 
2011-01-30 09:58:25 PM
I am not sure what gives them the right to hold themselves above a legal business owner when some of their own staff is not law abiding. If your school and county need money, which believe me they do in FL (because FL schools and counties are broke), then take the money. No one died to make that money, it was not got through gambling, but through legal work. Granted I don't like exotic/strip clubs or like how they objectify women, but I am entitled to my opinion and my rights just as they are entitled to theirs. This is so stupid and it shows exactly why the states schools and counties do not have enough money for teacher raises, class supplies, or supplies for the poor kids. They are just too busy throwing away money to use it the right way. So sad that the kids and the community are missing out on some money that could help them because of a few narrow minded people.
 
2011-01-30 10:00:17 PM

Je5tEr: GoSurfing: /This guy is awesome too. Self made man that is living a good life and gives back. And he isn't donating to some frou-frou celebrity backed African AIDS charity, no, he is giving money to the COMMUNITY around him. That's how it is done folks.

Giving money to the community that was coming from members of the community who would rather go to strip clubs than help their own community.

Sigh.


Economics 101... have you taken it?

Also, does the complexity of society make your brain hurt too like so many teabaggers?
 
2011-01-30 10:01:12 PM

Weaver95: ArkAngel: I love how the only person without a real problem with this is the pastor

interesting, isn't it?


Yeah it's pretty amazing how the people in the proverbial trenches don't have time for suburban bullshiat and tend to go in more for the pragmatic solutions.
 
2011-01-30 10:03:51 PM

ha-ha-guy: zilong: I don't get strip clubs. You get all worked up and then what?

The you purchase a premium membership that gives you access to private party room and make it clear to the stripper you have a nice roll of cash.


are you talking about the Champagne Room because...
 
2011-01-30 10:04:41 PM

SilentStrider: our only major quarrel's with your total lack of morals.


I came for this reference
 
2011-01-30 10:06:40 PM

ozzie_stu: If it's just a moral question then I think you should let them donate - sheesh McDonalds sponsors hospital wards you know.

Personally I would be more offended if the donation money came from BP, Halliburton or some company that did experiments on little puppies. It sounds like the ultra-righteous nut jobs have had their way here.

Think of it like some of the dad's money that he used at this 'immoral' place is being sent out to his kids school.


The only "charities" those assholes donate to are ones they expect a quid pro quo from... and that sure as hell ain't elementary schools et cetera.
 
2011-01-30 10:06:52 PM

LegacyDL: If you look at in an objective sense the strip club owner is the one who is facing a potential loss here. I mean if he keeps a lot of these girls in school then it reduces their chances of ending up on the pole (of course that all depends on the economy and whatnot).

Yet people have a problem with this?


Are you joking? How are they supposed to work their way through college?

/draft 'em out of high school straight into the pros
 
2011-01-30 10:08:30 PM

PunchPhrumpDisco: I think it's funny that people always think it's the women that are exploited @ the strip clubs. Us guys are the ones who always leave there broke.

/haven't been in years I swear
//Don't give your cell # to a stripper... it always ends badly.


Now you tells me.... dammit!
 
2011-01-30 10:09:33 PM
someone deserves a cock punch.
 
2011-01-30 10:09:41 PM

Happy Hours: I can say this - there is sex in the champagne room (only they don't call it a champagne room). If you go there enough you can actually date and fark some of the strippers - or maybe I was just that charming. And the waitresses, if you tip them well, will be your best friends ever. Never trust a dancer. If you establish a relationship (yeah, with money, by tipping them and not being an asshole) with a waitress, she will be one of the best friends you could ever have.


Wow. That was just sad.
 
2011-01-30 10:09:56 PM

GoSurfing: FTFA:"It came from someone associated with the exploitation of women - and that demeans half the population," Verdugo said. "If you do that, where do you draw the line? That's not the message to send to kids - that it's OK to exploit women."

Strip clubs don't exploit women, they exploit MEN. Men are the patrons targeted by strippers and strip club owners. Strip clubs allow women with absolutely NO skill set to gyrate in front of a man and make a LOT of money. The men are the victims here, because we are being played on an evolutionary level. Man would move the earth to see that, but the owners have made it convenient by allowing you to simply give them your paycheck to get it.

/This guy is awesome too. Self made man that is living a good life and gives back. And he isn't donating to some frou-frou celebrity backed African AIDS charity, no, he is giving money to the COMMUNITY around him. That's how it is done folks.


Depends on your community, there are a good number of clubs that practice slave labor with Eastern European women working under false pretense. It is most common in Western Europe, Israel, and Japan, but you will find it exists in some lesser degree in a lot of big cities in the U.S. and Canada.

Ideally and perhaps even typically, the exploitation is at least mutual. It is almost certain that fewer people would choose sex-work or any other poorly regarded field of employment if they had more options for a decent wage. And whit men are almost certainly being exploited it is seldom the dancer doing the exploiting and more often the owner of the establishment exploiting both the patron and the dancer (most peelers work in unregulated states where they are not required to be compensated even a minimum wage and are often required to pay for their "stage time").

I've known many working women and have generally heard less cause to believe in exploitation from regular escorts than the majority of strippers I've known.
 
2011-01-30 10:14:48 PM

PunchPhrumpDisco:
//Don't give your cell # to a stripper... it always ends badly.


awkward one night stands aren't that bad
 
2011-01-30 10:19:59 PM

PunchPhrumpDisco: //Don't give your cell # to a stripper... it always ends badly.


One of my coworkers once gave his phone number to a stripper. The next morning, one of his friends who was with him at the time called him and did a really bad imitation of the stripper's voice, and apparently he actually thought it was her.

As far as I know, she never did call him.
 
2011-01-30 10:21:08 PM
an elementary school in Palm Beach County is considering returning a $20,000 gift because the district learned that the donor, Rodriguez, is not just a wealthy businessman who gives to charity.

Yes he is
 
2011-01-30 10:27:29 PM
They're returning his donation? Does he not live in the district or something?

//Seems like a nice guy, though if you've got a lot of money you've gotta do _something_ with it, or there's no real point.
 
2011-01-30 10:28:21 PM

Je5tEr: The charitable one is getting chastised when its the people going to the joint that should have people yelling at them about why they spend their money on strippers and not help their own community.


Ok, point mistaken, but you are assuming that the people who spend their money at strip clubs do not already help the community. It is possible for both, and besides, people will always want to spend their money on whatever they want.

/half kidding.

logruszed: Ideally and perhaps even typically, the exploitation is at least mutual.


Gotcha, I was just trying to be funny by "flipping the script" as they say.
 
2011-01-30 10:28:32 PM
You know.. he is doing the right thing, because he is giving money that people would rather blow on looking at naked women, then actually give it to people in need or towards a (youth) origination that needs money to continue educate and to keep kids safe and out of gangs.
 
2011-01-30 10:30:31 PM
Christian Family Coalition

Would like to know how much they donated to the cause.
 
2011-01-30 10:32:01 PM
Farking ridiculous. He earned the money legally, I don't see the issue here. Looks like the school would rather go begging for taxpayer money that accept a private, free market donation.

I recall many years ago a hospital in New York accepting a large gift from the heads of one of the New York Mafia families. I would be concerned about that. But everything this guy is doing is within the law.
 
2011-01-30 10:36:00 PM
Did he pay in all ones?

/TL;DR
 
2011-01-30 10:37:47 PM
FARTNOISE FARTNOISE JUNIOR: Uh, no you didn't. Your apostrophe is marking a contraction.
quarrel's = quarrel is
Our only major quarrel is with your total lack of morals. You were right the first time.


first- you get credit for this.

James F. Campbell: Why? You used a valid contraction of "is." For example: "The cat's in the cradle."

second

Leskay: Was that a troll?

no, its me being an idiot. never mind me.
 
2011-01-30 10:38:52 PM
you know, i said earlier this weekend that i needed to learn Spanish... maybe I need a refresher course on English first. ;)
 
2011-01-30 10:39:18 PM
www.thefancarpet.com

Approves
 
2011-01-30 10:43:40 PM
Exploitation of women aside, corrupting morals and such aside, I still can't see how anyone could oppose this? What are the options, the money exists. It can go into helping underprivileged kids and schools or it can go into making the strip clubs bigger and better and more powerful. So goddamn stupid.
 
2011-01-30 10:50:17 PM
Just because he does not live up to someone else's definitions of morals does not mean that he is not a good person at heart. Heck, the fact that he has donated so much money over the years should be proof enough that he actually cares about the community. But, some narrow-minded bigots have decided that his money is somehow "bad" and have refused it. People just need to learn to know when not to ask questions or to just keep their mouth shut. If whoever had found out the source of this donation had not said anything then chances are no one else would have. But, they went and made a public stink about it and now everyone knows, and the end result is that they are throwing away a $20,000 gift!
 
2011-01-30 10:54:01 PM
The strip club owner knows more about managing a school and its finances than the disgusting teachers union that rapes our kids future for more pay and a gold plated retirement.


dont be stupid stuptd
 
2011-01-30 10:54:19 PM

bunnylovesbr: No one died to make that money, it was not got through gambling, but through legal work.


Additional information:

School District of Palm Beach County spokesman Nat Harrington said no school can accept donations from businesses that sell goods and services that would be illegal to be possessed or used by a minor. The district's policy includes adult entertainment establishments, tattoo parlors, pain clinics and businesses that "solicit addicts." - Source; see also.

It looks like they may be technically within the letter of the policy, because the donation is not from the business, but from a charitable foundation that the owner of the business set up.

On the gripping hand, 93% of the kids are on the free or reduced-price lunch program. Take the money and run.

karst: So do I. Want some?


Send those right over.
 
2011-01-30 10:55:30 PM
Clean honest money does not exist.

Build a bridge, get over it, take the money and try to educate the kids to allow them to have better options.
 
2011-01-30 11:16:13 PM
I guess the general consensus is the end justifies the means. That's just awesome.
 
2011-01-30 11:26:38 PM
The owner is my friend's dad, so we are getting a kick out of this story.

/friend is a girl
//whenever she visited her dad at work, she'd just run straight to his office without looking at all the boobies and hoohas.
 
2011-01-30 11:27:04 PM
$20k? That's like four teacher salaries!
 
2011-01-30 11:32:54 PM
donated to causes such as sending disabled kids to Miami Dolphins games

Chad Henne wasn't *that* bad, dude.

The school district should consider what the decision will teach its students, said Anthony Verdugo, executive director of the Christian Family Coalition.

"It came from someone associated with the exploitation of women - and that demeans half the population," Verdugo said. "If you do that, where do you draw the line? That's not the message to send to kids - that it's OK to exploit women."


Yea, well, Christian dogma exploits women and demeans 100% of the population by assuming we're all born sinners going to hell. So, f*ck off.
 
2011-01-30 11:33:09 PM
fatalvenom: We don't ski in S. FL, unless it's at a strip-club or on water.

Farking chicks in the back room?

Been doing it since I turned 18. My cack hasn't rotted-off yet; god-bless me.
How long have you not known about it?

Bro; some powder, cash, and a half-way decent smile will get you anything you want a strip-club. We don't ski in S. FL, unless it's at a strip-club or on water.

Farking chicks in the back room?

Been doing it since I turned 18. My cack hasn't rotted-off yet; god-bless me.

How long have you not known about it?

Bro; some powder, cash, and a half-way decent smile will get you anything you want a strip-club.


Anything I want?! Wow! And from what others are saying, they're great places to make dear friends, too.

Cooool. Now I know where I can go learn to be a real winner!

Anyway, it's stupid that the school can't take the money, but I've never heard of one anywhere that'd be allowed to. This outcome is hardly surprising. Even if people aren't actually upset about the donation, everyone's afraid of the ones that could be.
 
2011-01-31 12:08:16 AM
Last I checked, girls with educations don't generally grow up to be strippers, so people should be glad this dude is giving money to educate kids.
 
2011-01-31 12:13:42 AM

WienerButt: The owner is my friend's dad, so we are getting a kick out of this story.

/friend is a girl
//whenever she visited her dad at work, she'd just run straight to his office without looking at all the boobies and hoohas.


WTF is a "hooha"?

I never heard that term until I was in my 40s. I was talking to a co-worker about a HOOKAH bar that was causing some controversy in my local town. (Should smoking be allowed in a Hookah Bar,etc...?)

He thought I was talking about a "hooha" bar whatever the fark that is.

He apparently wasn't in favor of "hooha" bars. Hookah bars were apparently fine though.
 
2011-01-31 12:16:45 AM

Happy Hours: WienerButt: The owner is my friend's dad, so we are getting a kick out of this story.

/friend is a girl
//whenever she visited her dad at work, she'd just run straight to his office without looking at all the boobies and hoohas.

WTF is a "hooha"?

I never heard that term until I was in my 40s. I was talking to a co-worker about a HOOKAH bar that was causing some controversy in my local town. (Should smoking be allowed in a Hookah Bar,etc...?)

He thought I was talking about a "hooha" bar whatever the fark that is.

He apparently wasn't in favor of "hooha" bars. Hookah bars were apparently fine though.


I swear I've read this same post before
 
2011-01-31 12:18:51 AM

CodeHero: FTFA: "It came from someone associated with the exploitation of women - and that demeans half the population," Verdugo said. "If you do that, where do you draw the line? That's not the message to send to kids - that it's OK to exploit women."


Is it really exploitation when these women voluntarily sign up to be dancers? I'm going with no.

Also, I highly doubt the kids are going to be asking where their new books and computers came from.


Ahem.

This isn't 1860. We don't believe in "tainted money" any longer. We DO, supposedly, believe in higher education for our children, so hopefully the girls don't have to grow up to be strippers.

If you believe stripping exploits women, then the better choice is to use the money the strippers' employer so kindly provided to educate girls on how to make other life choices so they can obtain employment in careers that don't, as you say, "exploit" women.

Interesting footnote: The Prostitute's Guild of Paris made a quiet donation to the builders of the Cathedral of Notre Dame, when they were lacking funds to put in the stained glass windows. The only thing the bishop refused to do was put their images in the windows. But he did take the money.
 
2011-01-31 12:24:17 AM

rynthetyn: Last I checked, girls with educations don't generally grow up to be strippers, so people should be glad this dude is giving money to educate kids.


You don't know many strippers don't you?

I think you'd be surprised. Then again, Orlando doesn't allow nudity (they wear pasties) so maybe the girls I know don't consider themselves "real strippers" ...
 
2011-01-31 12:25:39 AM
I'll be more than happy to take his dirty, dirty money.
 
2011-01-31 12:35:28 AM

zilong: I don't get strip clubs. You get all worked up and then what?


Go home and use a dream catcher
 
2011-01-31 12:41:23 AM

abb3w:
Additional information:

School District of Palm Beach County spokesman Nat Harrington said no school can accept donations from businesses that sell goods and services that would be illegal to be possessed or used by a minor. The district's policy includes adult entertainment establishments, tattoo parlors, pain clinics and businesses that "solicit addicts." -

It looks like they may be technically within the letter of the policy, because the donation is not from the business, but from a charitable foundation that the owner of the business set up.


I wonder if they'd be cool then to give back all the school funding that comes from the lottery and the children's health care money that comes from tobacco tax since kids aren't allowed to gamble or smoke.

I noticed that the pompous asshat didn't offer to replace any of the money he wanted given back.
 
2011-01-31 12:44:00 AM

Nocens: what_now: Two things:

1) I've been to one of his establishments.

2) Of COURSE the pastor has a problem with this. They're going after the same marks.


Oh look, another religion bigot who can't read.


Je5tEr: GoSurfing: Je5tEr: Sigh.

Call the waaambulance. At least they are purchasing a service provided in the good ol' US of A. They could have just gone out and bought a bunch of shiatty goods made in China instead, and then you'd get NO money back. How about that?

You missed the farking point. The charitable one is getting chastised when its the people going to the joint that should have people yelling at them about why they spend their money on strippers and not help their own community.


Strippers aren't part of the community?
 
2011-01-31 12:46:20 AM

SquiggelyGrounders: zilong: I don't get strip clubs. You get all worked up and then what?

Go home and use a dream catcher

your wife.

FTFY
 
2011-01-31 12:50:55 AM

DigitalCoffee: abb3w:
Additional information:

School District of Palm Beach County spokesman Nat Harrington said no school can accept donations from businesses that sell goods and services that would be illegal to be possessed or used by a minor. The district's policy includes adult entertainment establishments, tattoo parlors, pain clinics and businesses that "solicit addicts." -

It looks like they may be technically within the letter of the policy, because the donation is not from the business, but from a charitable foundation that the owner of the business set up.


I wonder if they'd be cool then to give back all the school funding that comes from the lottery and the children's health care money that comes from tobacco tax since kids aren't allowed to gamble or smoke.

I noticed that the pompous asshat didn't offer to replace any of the money he wanted given back.


Or pretty much any supermarket, drug store, bar, restaurant, etc... that sell porn, alcohol, or tobacco
 
mhd
2011-01-31 12:56:13 AM

zilong: I don't get strip clubs. You get all worked up and then what?


Which is probably one reason why you don't see a lot of strip clubs if brothels are legal, e.g. in most European countries.

/Well, and because Euro/Pound coins are a bit less convenient than dollar bills
 
2011-01-31 01:18:57 AM

Tobin_Lam: I guess the general consensus is the end justifies the means. That's just awesome.


No, that's not the consensus. The consensus is that he is providing money to help school kids, despite owning a business that is just for adults.

Tell me more of your ends justifies the means belitteling what he's doing.
 
2011-01-31 01:20:17 AM

ArkAngel: I love how the only person without a real problem with this is the pastor


And notice how the pastor hasn't ponied up any money of his own to counter the offer.

Just why DO we need pastors these days anyway? What good are they?
 
2011-01-31 01:21:58 AM

LegacyDL: If you look at in an objective sense the strip club owner is the one who is facing a potential loss here. I mean if he keeps a lot of these girls in school then it reduces their chances of ending up on the pole (of course that all depends on the economy and whatnot).

Yet people have a problem with this?


Was wondering how long it would take for someone to make this excellent point. Not to say there wouldn't be strippers if we had the best education system. Of course there would still be the girls looking for easy money. But consider their options if they dont get an education. Does McDonalds or Walmart hire people without, at least, a GED? Even if they do, stripping pays way more for less effort.

Other options to stripping that pay well: the illegal drug industry and prostitution. Stripping at least is legal and has the system working for it rather than against.

And good for everyone who sees strippers as the exploiters and men as the exploited. But men are exploited in the same sense that every customer is exploited. The business, or stripper in this particular case, has something a customer wants. The stripper is consensually in the establishment and willfully provides a service while the customer is consensually in the establishment and willfully pays for the service. If there is no complaint from either side, then there is nothing wrong.

Does the good justify the bad? This assumes there is a bad. The way it looks here is that everybody wins, the strippers, the owner, the school, the kids, the parents, the patrons. The only ones who lose are the proponents of the bat-shiat-asinine idea of absolute morality. The outcry against this strikes me as a bit of judgmental better-than-you snobbery mixed with a shiat-ton of nanny-state indignation with a hint of jealousy.

So is there any farker here that will seriously defend the side against the donation?
 
2011-01-31 01:22:39 AM

rynthetyn: Last I checked, girls with educations don't generally grow up to be strippers, so people should be glad this dude is giving money to educate kids.


This. It seems that this guy is doing more to get to the girls in the community early and keep them off the pole than the people who don't want to take his money because he is "exploiting women" are.
 
2011-01-31 01:25:41 AM

Fano: Tobin_Lam: I guess the general consensus is the end justifies the means. That's just awesome.

No, that's not the consensus. The consensus is that he is providing money to help school kids, despite owning a business that is just for adults.

Tell me more of your ends justifies the means belitteling what he's doing.


How dare someone who runs a legal business decide to give away money!

Also, if anyone has a problem with a strip club owner giving money to schools, then beg your congressmen to quit taxing cigarettes and using the lottery to fund education.
 
2011-01-31 01:28:08 AM

Kome: donated to causes such as sending disabled kids to Miami Dolphins games

Chad Henne wasn't *that* bad, dude.

The school district should consider what the decision will teach its students, said Anthony Verdugo, executive director of the Christian Family Coalition.

"It came from someone associated with the exploitation of women - and that demeans half the population," Verdugo said. "If you do that, where do you draw the line? That's not the message to send to kids - that it's OK to exploit women."

Yea, well, Christian dogma exploits women and demeans 100% of the population by assuming we're all born sinners going to hell. So, f*ck off.


*applause*
 
2011-01-31 01:33:04 AM

RatMaster999: SquiggelyGrounders: zilong: I don't get strip clubs. You get all worked up and then what?

Go home and use a dream catcher your wife.

FTFY


How do you know I call my special sock that?
 
2011-01-31 01:37:03 AM

tbyte: I swear I've read this same post before


Deja Vu is the worst CSNY album ever.
 
2011-01-31 01:39:35 AM

Worst.Fark handle. ever.: ArkAngel: I love how the only person without a real problem with this is the pastor

And notice how the pastor hasn't ponied up any money of his own to counter the offer.

Just why DO we need pastors these days anyway? What good are they?


Where does it say that he didn't put plenty of his own money in it?
 
2011-01-31 01:41:05 AM

Happy Hours: tbyte: I swear I've read this same post before

Deja Vu is the worst CSNY album ever.


Are you kidding?

It had Our House, Teach Your Children, and Woodstock.
 
2011-01-31 01:51:59 AM

FirstNationalBastard: Happy Hours: tbyte: I swear I've read this same post before

Deja Vu is the worst CSNY album ever.

Are you kidding?

It had Our House, Teach Your Children, and Woodstock.


Goddammit I can't even make an ironic (and yeah, probably using that word wrong too) post on Fark without someone giving me shiat.

I'm really losing it here...just give me a break.....


I much preferred Crosby and Young solo compared to all the CSN and CSNY crap. Graham Nash and Stepehn Stills? well, they're okay but they can fark off.

Sorry - not really, but I am in a pissy mood.

I'm sure someone out there understands.
 
2011-01-31 02:03:42 AM

Happy Hours: FirstNationalBastard: Happy Hours: tbyte: I swear I've read this same post before

Deja Vu is the worst CSNY album ever.

Are you kidding?

It had Our House, Teach Your Children, and Woodstock.

Goddammit I can't even make an ironic (and yeah, probably using that word wrong too) post on Fark without someone giving me shiat.

I'm really losing it here...just give me a break.....


I much preferred Crosby and Young solo compared to all the CSN and CSNY crap. Graham Nash and Stepehn Stills? well, they're okay but they can fark off.

Sorry - not really, but I am in a pissy mood.

I'm sure someone out there understands.


On 2nd thought I should probably dig that album out and listen to it again.


How loud am I allowed to go before the cops show up?
 
2011-01-31 02:06:09 AM

Happy Hours: Happy Hours: FirstNationalBastard: Happy Hours: tbyte: I swear I've read this same post before

Deja Vu is the worst CSNY album ever.

Are you kidding?

It had Our House, Teach Your Children, and Woodstock.

Goddammit I can't even make an ironic (and yeah, probably using that word wrong too) post on Fark without someone giving me shiat.

I'm really losing it here...just give me a break.....


I much preferred Crosby and Young solo compared to all the CSN and CSNY crap. Graham Nash and Stepehn Stills? well, they're okay but they can fark off.

Sorry - not really, but I am in a pissy mood.

I'm sure someone out there understands.

On 2nd thought I should probably dig that album out and listen to it again.


How loud am I allowed to go before the cops show up?


If you don't go to 11, why bother?
 
2011-01-31 02:18:32 AM
Rodriguez, who rose from a scrappy shoe-shine boy in New Jersey
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media.weirdworm.com
 
2011-01-31 02:44:16 AM

FirstNationalBastard: If you don't go to 11, why bother?


I'm surprised nobody posted the "Welcome to Fark" picture for me.

I'm over it. Well, not really, but I'm done ranting at least.

Turning it up to 11 wouldn't serve any useful purpose. It would only be a matter of minutes before the cops showed up.

I had a crazy thought on the way to the liquor store this afternoon. One of my neighbor's is a cop and his police cruiser was parked like a perfect target for my car and for just one brief moment I imagined me flooring it and slamming into this police car.

And then I thought WTF? Are you farking crazy? You'd never get away with that, plus you'd wreck your own car. Should you even be driving?

And tonight the public sleeps uneasily as these questions have still not been answered.
 
2011-01-31 02:44:35 AM
Never has money been more tainted.

/hoping against hope that no one has made a "taint" joke in the last 141 posts
 
2011-01-31 04:59:11 AM
Hey, they guy is giving back to the community, and the Church takes from the community. It's not as if Churches, when some have school supply giveaways, emblazon pencils, spiral notebooks and such with their logo. Why doesn't he, in turn, have the same right? Pure Platinum logos on uniforms, school supplies and such. It's a legitimate entrepreneurial enterprise, monitored much more closely by neighbors and law enforcement than some of those so-called "Churches".

I personally, haven't been to a strip club in years. I dunno, just don't care for it. Some women there are really nice, and others, well, as Joe Bob Briggs said about Jersey strippers "You have to hose the roaches of them every 15 minutes". Yep, Gross. But if I were to open one, it would be named "Second String". The logo is "We're not the best, but your wife or girlfriend won't mind, because we don't charge a lot." My wife laughs every time she hears it. See, and you can have part-time holiday work, for those moms needing a little extra shopping cash; and put it close to a mall, with free shuttle service during the holiday season. Well, the moms can shake it before any big holiday; Easter, Fathers day, July 4th, etc. But maybe not for Mothers day, 'cuz that just doesn't seem right.

I was thinking for a while about having it close to a drop-in day care facility, but that wouldn't be legal. or perhaps a drop-in facility that's not so close, but the strip bar gives a coupon for the first 2 hours free at the daycare, kinda like parking validation.

/Maybe not.
//just Rambling.
///can't sleep.
 
2011-01-31 05:28:32 AM
So basically they wouldn't be having this problem had someone kept their mouth shut. He donated the money through a charitable group that he set up, not with a check from his club or with $1 bills.

Someone did some digging with the name on the check and THEN figured out they had personal issues with getting money from someone who earned it. They just didn't like HOW he earned it (through fundraisers and car washes oh my).

Talk about looking a gift horse in the mouth. They took it a step farther and punched the horse in the teeth too.
 
2011-01-31 06:04:09 AM
....wow.....imagine a pile of $20K in one dollar notes......that´d be HUGE!!!!!
 
2011-01-31 08:15:13 AM

Weaver95: when you're drowning, you don't ask to see the resume of the guy throwing you a life preserver.


And when you're bleeding to death, you don't refuse a blood transfusion! Amirite?
 
2011-01-31 09:41:32 AM
If titties can't support our children's future, we're doomed.

Yay titties.
 
2011-01-31 10:06:27 AM
Demeaning exploitation? That's not demeaning exploitation, everyone participating is an adult with a choice. Demeaning exploitation is forcing my kids to go door to door to sell crappy chocolates in order to participate in extracurricular activities.
 
2011-01-31 10:20:02 AM
This Rodriguez fellow deserves his own separate article, complete with HERO tag.
 
2011-01-31 11:16:25 AM
They only complained because he contributed a dollar at a time.
 
2011-01-31 11:22:59 AM

zeio: The strip club owner knows more about managing a school and its finances than the disgusting teachers union that rapes our kids future for more pay and a gold plated retirement.


THIS! well stated......
 
2011-01-31 12:23:05 PM

Happy Hours: He thought I was talking about a "hooha" bar whatever the fark that is.


Fully-nude. Also known as a Taco Bar (as opposed to Titty Bar).
 
2011-01-31 12:33:41 PM
This is as dumb as when people were angry at Ron Paul for taking a $100 donation from David Duke.

I'd rather Ron Paul have the money than David Duke, wouldn't you?
 
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