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2011-01-30 09:20:56 PM  
I wonder how many of the teachers are farking their students, and how many of those people objecting to this guy's donation drive drunk on weekends.

But oh, no. We can't take money from a guy that is operating legally and pays his taxes. That would just be WRONG!

Perhaps instead, the Christian Family Coalition should donate $20,000 to the school. "Inasmuch as ye did it unto one of these my brethren, even these least, ye did it unto me."
 
2011-01-30 09:21:04 PM  
If it's just a moral question then I think you should let them donate - sheesh McDonalds sponsors hospital wards you know.

Personally I would be more offended if the donation money came from BP, Halliburton or some company that did experiments on little puppies. It sounds like the ultra-righteous nut jobs have had their way here.

Think of it like some of the dad's money that he used at this 'immoral' place is being sent out to his kids school.
 
2011-01-30 09:21:37 PM  
They tried to pass what was euphemistically called the "Pole Tax" here in Texas a couple years back. It went to the State Supreme Court.

So, how is it different if the state mandates a $5 fee from each customer, or if the owner donates it voluntarily? The money is still coming from guys who want to see boobies.
 
2011-01-30 09:22:32 PM  

FARTNOISE FARTNOISE JUNIOR: SilentStrider: SilentStrider: our only major quarrel's with your total lack of morals.

(and to head off any comment's at the pass, I know I used an apostrophe incorrectly there)

Uh, no you didn't. Your apostrophe is marking a contraction.
quarrel's = quarrel is
Our only major quarrel is with your total lack of morals. You were right the first time.


James F. Campbell: SilentStrider: (and to head off any comments at the pass, I know I used an apostrophe incorrectly there)

Why? You used a valid contraction of "is." For example: "The cat's in the cradle."

.
.
Lick my balls both of you. I typed it first.

/Goddam lagging piece of shiat
//FPS Doug
 
2011-01-30 09:23:21 PM  
I think it's funny that people always think it's the women that are exploited @ the strip clubs. Us guys are the ones who always leave there broke.

/haven't been in years I swear
//Don't give your cell # to a stripper... it always ends badly.
 
2011-01-30 09:23:35 PM  

untaken_name: astonrickenbach: FYI, Christian Verdugo is head of the Florida Christian Family Coalition. I don't think he is a pastor.

Sorry for the poor word choice. I just figured that anyone who'd head up an organization like that would at least be ordained. My mistake.


NP, I figured the same thing and was surprised he wasn't. Looked him up on several sources and nothing said he was. I guess all the real pastors are out making a difference in peoples lives.
 
2011-01-30 09:23:35 PM  
That guy looks exactly like what I would imagine a strip club owner looking like. He owns the Cheetah Clubs as well? I've been to his establishments a couple of times and I must say the man puts forth a quality product.
 
2011-01-30 09:24:31 PM  

Dow Jones and the Temple of Doom: fatalvenom: I like Cheetah in WPB. The staff knows how to a let a girl do her due-diligence in the back-room w/o interruption; plus she sometimes even brings her own snow to the slopes. This article is a bunch of shiat.

/Yes, back-rooms are fun.
//And no, I don't have AIDS/herp/hep/gohn/etc.
///Slashies.

Does this mean drugs?


Yeah. Fatalvenom likes him some meth.
 
2011-01-30 09:24:47 PM  
I don't get strip clubs. You get all worked up and then what?
 
2011-01-30 09:25:08 PM  
Wow, the pastor has no real issue with this. The school district does, but I've still not read or heard anywhere regarding the parents of said school district having an issue with this either. I love and miss George Carlin, he'd had loved giving the middle finger to what he called "Dockers wearing hypocrite f..kers."

/pastor unwittingly gained free access to the Champagne room
 
2011-01-30 09:25:23 PM  
He's more than welcome to give that $ to me, since like $50 was mine to begin with.
 
2011-01-30 09:25:42 PM  

rebelyell2006: Yeah. Fatalvenom likes him some meth down on their luck single mothers, with mouths to feed and a coke problem.



Yup.
 
2011-01-30 09:28:33 PM  

zilong: I don't get strip clubs. You get all worked up and then what?


Save the memories in the Spank Bank.
 
2011-01-30 09:28:42 PM  

zilong: I don't get strip clubs. You get all worked up and then what?


The you purchase a premium membership that gives you access to private party room and make it clear to the stripper you have a nice roll of cash.
 
2011-01-30 09:29:05 PM  
This business man is just helping all the kids out. Today with an education, tomorrow with a job for some of them.

randomfunnypicture.com

/an oldie, but still funny
 
2011-01-30 09:30:19 PM  

untaken_name: tbyte: The strippers get paid by customers and paid by the establishment? How does the establishment make money?

It charges at the door and it sells drinks (and sometimes takes a cut of the dancer's tips). I am guessing you're not too familiar with how strip clubs work, are you? At some establishments, the dancers are paid a small amount in addition to their tips, in some they work for tips only, and in some they must pay a fee (straight fee or commission) to work there.


No, I'm not. I was dragged around to a couple of them about 10 years ago, but I was not a fan of the whole atmosphere. I do remember paying for a "VIP" card (every person there was a "VIP") and the strippers trying to get me to buy them Mountain Dew. And one wanted me to sell her drugs, which I did not have.
 
2011-01-30 09:31:18 PM  
Here's how to launder the money to make it clean.

1. Run strip club business
2. Get taxed by the city, county, state for your business
3. Pay school districts with taxed money

Congratulations, this money is now clean and safe to use!
 
2011-01-30 09:32:19 PM  

zilong: I don't get strip clubs. You get all worked up and then what?


yourcity.backpage.com/escorts
 
2011-01-30 09:33:00 PM  

Weaver95: SilentStrider: our only major quarrel's with your total lack of morals.

hey, I have morals!



So do I. Want some?
mobflog.files.wordpress.com


/hot
//I'm a bad bad person
 
2011-01-30 09:37:03 PM  
Shouldn't there be pictures so we will know what strippers might look like?
 
2011-01-30 09:37:25 PM  

what_now: Two things:

1) I've been to one of his establishments.

2) Of COURSE the pastor has a problem with this. They're going after the same marks.



Oh look, another religion bigot who can't read.
 
2011-01-30 09:41:12 PM  

untaken_name: tbyte: The strippers get paid by customers and paid by the establishment? How does the establishment make money?

It charges at the door and it sells drinks (and sometimes takes a cut of the dancer's tips). I am guessing you're not too familiar with how strip clubs work, are you? At some establishments, the dancers are paid a small amount in addition to their tips, in some they work for tips only, and in some they must pay a fee (straight fee or commission) to work there.


The strippers (at least at the clubs that I've been to enough to understand how things work) are contractors. They have to "tip out" before they leave. I'm not really sure if it's a percentage of their tips/table dances or if it's a set amount. If it's a percentage, then there are going to be huge problems with dancers under-reporting tips (like there is with the IRS) so I suspect it's a set fee.

I've also never seen any arguments over the tip-out which suggests to me that it's a fixed amount.

I've seen dancers fight about anything else. One fight was really funny because it was about me. I went to this club where I often went and the dancer who usually gave me table dances was with another customer. No big deal I thought. I'll get a dance from this other girl. Adrianna (my usual dancer) was pissed though. How dare this other girl give me a lap dance because she was busy giving a lap dance to someone else!

I don't really miss going to strip clubs. Oh, who the hell am I kidding? If there were any decent ones in this hick town I live in now I'd probably be there.
 
2011-01-30 09:41:43 PM  

GoSurfing: Je5tEr: Sigh.

Call the waaambulance. At least they are purchasing a service provided in the good ol' US of A. They could have just gone out and bought a bunch of shiatty goods made in China instead, and then you'd get NO money back. How about that?


You missed the farking point. The charitable one is getting chastised when its the people going to the joint that should have people yelling at them about why they spend their money on strippers and not help their own community.
 
2011-01-30 09:42:07 PM  
If you look at in an objective sense the strip club owner is the one who is facing a potential loss here. I mean if he keeps a lot of these girls in school then it reduces their chances of ending up on the pole (of course that all depends on the economy and whatnot).

Yet people have a problem with this?
 
2011-01-30 09:42:14 PM  

Dow Jones and the Temple of Doom: globalwarmingpraiser: The the Wang takes over.u

Did the wang just take over??


Yes he did.

http://sffandom.wordpress.com/2010/05/04/garrett-wang-takes-over-dragoncons-tr ek -track/
 
2011-01-30 09:42:58 PM  

tbyte: untaken_name: tbyte: The strippers get paid by customers and paid by the establishment? How does the establishment make money?

It charges at the door and it sells drinks (and sometimes takes a cut of the dancer's tips). I am guessing you're not too familiar with how strip clubs work, are you? At some establishments, the dancers are paid a small amount in addition to their tips, in some they work for tips only, and in some they must pay a fee (straight fee or commission) to work there.

No, I'm not. I was dragged around to a couple of them about 10 years ago, but I was not a fan of the whole atmosphere. I do remember paying for a "VIP" card (every person there was a "VIP") and the strippers trying to get me to buy them Mountain Dew. And one wanted me to sell her drugs, which I did not have.


The funny part is that I am not a strip club patron. I've just known a lot of strippers - one of my ex-gf's best friends was one, and if you have one around, you meet a ton of them. They are usually talking about work (like any other group of co-workers do).
 
2011-01-30 09:49:41 PM  

Nocens: Oh look, another religion bigot who can't read


What did he say that was bigoted about religion? He seemed to be insulting strip club owners, though.

In his defense: a pastor was fine with it, but it was a religious group that was overtly outraged.
 
2011-01-30 09:49:50 PM  

Tobin_Lam: FirstNationalBastard: "One has to look at the broader picture," Jones said. "This is a business that is legal, even though, in a lot of circles, it isn't fully received by society. But we're not living in a world where anyone is on a perfect pedestal. You have to ask 'Does the good outweigh the bad?' "

If I rob a bank and donate the money to charity, does the good outweigh the bad? If I cover a hobo in blood and drop him off at the police station so he will get 3 meals a day, a roof over his head, and a bed to sleep on, does the good outweigh the bad?


If Tobin_Lam spews unrelated rhetoric and hyperbole til blue in the face, does that mean he understands the essence of good will and charity?
 
2011-01-30 09:53:23 PM  

fatalvenom: I like Cheetah in WPB. The staff knows how to a let a girl do her due-diligence in the back-room w/o interruption; plus she sometimes even brings her own snow to the slopes. This article is a bunch of shiat.

/Yes, back-rooms are fun.
//And no, I don't have AIDS/herp/hep/gohn/etc.
///Slashies.


You know, one thing comes to mind when I look at this picture.

content6.flixster.com
/"Someone shot the short fat man"
 
2011-01-30 09:53:28 PM  
If I owned a Strip Club and needed to do some advertising. I would take all the advertising budget for the year and do something like this too.

Not only do you get to do good for someone else, but you get much, much more moneys worth then you would printing up some fliers or an ad in the local paper. Might need someone to 'mention' it to a local 'Think of the Children!' member though, just to get things rolling.

You wouldn't be able to do it too often though, year after year of *OUTRAGE* would lose impact. But once every 5 or so years would be well spent ad money.
 
2011-01-30 09:54:59 PM  
The strip club owner knows more about managing a school and its finances than the disgusting teachers union that rapes our kids future for more pay and a gold plated retirement.
 
2011-01-30 09:55:01 PM  

LegacyDL: If you look at in an objective sense the strip club owner is the one who is facing a potential loss here. I mean if he keeps a lot of these girls in school then it reduces their chances of ending up on the pole (of course that all depends on the economy and whatnot).

Yet people have a problem with this?


That's like saying if you supply sandboxes to playgrounds there's a risk of us running out of beaches.

It's not gonna happen.

I didn't even read the article - people have a problem with this?

How about this? The strip club I've probably spent the most money in my lifetime used to be a pizza parlor - where my parents splurged for my birthday party when I was a young kid.

I can say this - there is sex in the champagne room (only they don't call it a champagne room). If you go there enough you can actually date and fark some of the strippers - or maybe I was just that charming. And the waitresses, if you tip them well, will be your best friends ever. Never trust a dancer. If you establish a relationship (yeah, with money, by tipping them and not being an asshole) with a waitress, she will be one of the best friends you could ever have.
 
2011-01-30 09:58:25 PM  
I am not sure what gives them the right to hold themselves above a legal business owner when some of their own staff is not law abiding. If your school and county need money, which believe me they do in FL (because FL schools and counties are broke), then take the money. No one died to make that money, it was not got through gambling, but through legal work. Granted I don't like exotic/strip clubs or like how they objectify women, but I am entitled to my opinion and my rights just as they are entitled to theirs. This is so stupid and it shows exactly why the states schools and counties do not have enough money for teacher raises, class supplies, or supplies for the poor kids. They are just too busy throwing away money to use it the right way. So sad that the kids and the community are missing out on some money that could help them because of a few narrow minded people.
 
2011-01-30 10:00:17 PM  

Je5tEr: GoSurfing: /This guy is awesome too. Self made man that is living a good life and gives back. And he isn't donating to some frou-frou celebrity backed African AIDS charity, no, he is giving money to the COMMUNITY around him. That's how it is done folks.

Giving money to the community that was coming from members of the community who would rather go to strip clubs than help their own community.

Sigh.


Economics 101... have you taken it?

Also, does the complexity of society make your brain hurt too like so many teabaggers?
 
2011-01-30 10:01:12 PM  

Weaver95: ArkAngel: I love how the only person without a real problem with this is the pastor

interesting, isn't it?


Yeah it's pretty amazing how the people in the proverbial trenches don't have time for suburban bullshiat and tend to go in more for the pragmatic solutions.
 
2011-01-30 10:03:51 PM  

ha-ha-guy: zilong: I don't get strip clubs. You get all worked up and then what?

The you purchase a premium membership that gives you access to private party room and make it clear to the stripper you have a nice roll of cash.


are you talking about the Champagne Room because...
 
2011-01-30 10:04:41 PM  

SilentStrider: our only major quarrel's with your total lack of morals.


I came for this reference
 
2011-01-30 10:06:40 PM  

ozzie_stu: If it's just a moral question then I think you should let them donate - sheesh McDonalds sponsors hospital wards you know.

Personally I would be more offended if the donation money came from BP, Halliburton or some company that did experiments on little puppies. It sounds like the ultra-righteous nut jobs have had their way here.

Think of it like some of the dad's money that he used at this 'immoral' place is being sent out to his kids school.


The only "charities" those assholes donate to are ones they expect a quid pro quo from... and that sure as hell ain't elementary schools et cetera.
 
2011-01-30 10:06:52 PM  

LegacyDL: If you look at in an objective sense the strip club owner is the one who is facing a potential loss here. I mean if he keeps a lot of these girls in school then it reduces their chances of ending up on the pole (of course that all depends on the economy and whatnot).

Yet people have a problem with this?


Are you joking? How are they supposed to work their way through college?

/draft 'em out of high school straight into the pros
 
2011-01-30 10:08:30 PM  

PunchPhrumpDisco: I think it's funny that people always think it's the women that are exploited @ the strip clubs. Us guys are the ones who always leave there broke.

/haven't been in years I swear
//Don't give your cell # to a stripper... it always ends badly.


Now you tells me.... dammit!
 
2011-01-30 10:09:33 PM  
someone deserves a cock punch.
 
2011-01-30 10:09:41 PM  

Happy Hours: I can say this - there is sex in the champagne room (only they don't call it a champagne room). If you go there enough you can actually date and fark some of the strippers - or maybe I was just that charming. And the waitresses, if you tip them well, will be your best friends ever. Never trust a dancer. If you establish a relationship (yeah, with money, by tipping them and not being an asshole) with a waitress, she will be one of the best friends you could ever have.


Wow. That was just sad.
 
2011-01-30 10:09:56 PM  

GoSurfing: FTFA:"It came from someone associated with the exploitation of women - and that demeans half the population," Verdugo said. "If you do that, where do you draw the line? That's not the message to send to kids - that it's OK to exploit women."

Strip clubs don't exploit women, they exploit MEN. Men are the patrons targeted by strippers and strip club owners. Strip clubs allow women with absolutely NO skill set to gyrate in front of a man and make a LOT of money. The men are the victims here, because we are being played on an evolutionary level. Man would move the earth to see that, but the owners have made it convenient by allowing you to simply give them your paycheck to get it.

/This guy is awesome too. Self made man that is living a good life and gives back. And he isn't donating to some frou-frou celebrity backed African AIDS charity, no, he is giving money to the COMMUNITY around him. That's how it is done folks.


Depends on your community, there are a good number of clubs that practice slave labor with Eastern European women working under false pretense. It is most common in Western Europe, Israel, and Japan, but you will find it exists in some lesser degree in a lot of big cities in the U.S. and Canada.

Ideally and perhaps even typically, the exploitation is at least mutual. It is almost certain that fewer people would choose sex-work or any other poorly regarded field of employment if they had more options for a decent wage. And whit men are almost certainly being exploited it is seldom the dancer doing the exploiting and more often the owner of the establishment exploiting both the patron and the dancer (most peelers work in unregulated states where they are not required to be compensated even a minimum wage and are often required to pay for their "stage time").

I've known many working women and have generally heard less cause to believe in exploitation from regular escorts than the majority of strippers I've known.
 
2011-01-30 10:14:48 PM  

PunchPhrumpDisco:
//Don't give your cell # to a stripper... it always ends badly.


awkward one night stands aren't that bad
 
2011-01-30 10:19:59 PM  

PunchPhrumpDisco: //Don't give your cell # to a stripper... it always ends badly.


One of my coworkers once gave his phone number to a stripper. The next morning, one of his friends who was with him at the time called him and did a really bad imitation of the stripper's voice, and apparently he actually thought it was her.

As far as I know, she never did call him.
 
2011-01-30 10:21:08 PM  
an elementary school in Palm Beach County is considering returning a $20,000 gift because the district learned that the donor, Rodriguez, is not just a wealthy businessman who gives to charity.

Yes he is
 
2011-01-30 10:27:29 PM  
They're returning his donation? Does he not live in the district or something?

//Seems like a nice guy, though if you've got a lot of money you've gotta do _something_ with it, or there's no real point.
 
2011-01-30 10:28:21 PM  

Je5tEr: The charitable one is getting chastised when its the people going to the joint that should have people yelling at them about why they spend their money on strippers and not help their own community.


Ok, point mistaken, but you are assuming that the people who spend their money at strip clubs do not already help the community. It is possible for both, and besides, people will always want to spend their money on whatever they want.

/half kidding.

logruszed: Ideally and perhaps even typically, the exploitation is at least mutual.


Gotcha, I was just trying to be funny by "flipping the script" as they say.
 
2011-01-30 10:28:32 PM  
You know.. he is doing the right thing, because he is giving money that people would rather blow on looking at naked women, then actually give it to people in need or towards a (youth) origination that needs money to continue educate and to keep kids safe and out of gangs.
 
2011-01-30 10:30:31 PM  
Christian Family Coalition

Would like to know how much they donated to the cause.
 
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