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2011-01-30 07:08:36 PM
I love how the only person without a real problem with this is the pastor
 
2011-01-30 07:48:27 PM
when you're drowning, you don't ask to see the resume of the guy throwing you a life preserver.
 
2011-01-30 07:50:05 PM
Everybody? I count one person.
 
2011-01-30 07:51:30 PM

Weaver95: when you're drowning, you don't ask to see the resume of the guy throwing you a life preserver.


But that life preserver exploits women, or the invisible man in the sky says that the life preserver is bad, or whatever other dumbass excuse you need!
 
2011-01-30 07:53:48 PM

ArkAngel: I love how the only person without a real problem with this is the pastor


interesting, isn't it?
 
2011-01-30 07:57:00 PM
our only major quarrel's with your total lack of morals.
 
2011-01-30 08:02:15 PM

SilentStrider: our only major quarrel's with your total lack of morals.


hey, I have morals!
 
2011-01-30 08:09:05 PM

SilentStrider: our only major quarrel's with your total lack of morals.


(and to head off any comments at the pass, I know I used an apostrophe incorrectly there)

Weaver95: hey, I have morals!

I really don't know how to respond to this. :P
 
2011-01-30 08:33:54 PM
So, we have a guy who gives hundreds of thousands of dollars a year to help at risk kids...

He runs a legal business...

F*ck you fundies, I hope your kids get teen pregnant and hooked on drugs.
 
2011-01-30 08:43:16 PM

baka-san: So, we have a guy who gives hundreds of thousands of dollars a year to help at risk kids...

He runs a legal business...

F*ck you fundies, I hope your kids get teen pregnant and hooked on drugs.


Yeah, but then they would say it was the fault of guys like the strip club owner, who destroyed the morals of their community by bringing his filth into their back yards.
 
2011-01-30 08:44:44 PM
Two things:

1) I've been to one of his establishments.

2) Of COURSE the pastor has a problem with this. They're going after the same marks.
 
2011-01-30 08:49:33 PM
yeah, the DJ cut the song off after 2 minutes. That was NOT the lap dance I was expecting.
 
2011-01-30 08:49:46 PM

what_now: Two things:

1) I've been to one of his establishments.

2) Of COURSE the pastor has a problem with this. They're going after the same marks.


Uh, no, the guy who was a pastor didn't really care.

FTFA:

"One has to look at the broader picture," Jones said. "This is a business that is legal, even though, in a lot of circles, it isn't fully received by society. But we're not living in a world where anyone is on a perfect pedestal. You have to ask 'Does the good outweigh the bad?' "
 
2011-01-30 08:53:21 PM
Of course they have a problem with this... it might actually improve their child's education, and we can't have that.
 
2011-01-30 08:54:27 PM

Weaver95: SilentStrider: our only major quarrel's with your total lack of morals.

hey, I have morals!


Righ t up till the point that your offered kinky sex by two hot strippers. The the Wang takes over.u
 
2011-01-30 08:55:13 PM
Absolutely stupid. The guy is running a legal business, and if the article is true he's helping his community.

I'd like to see how the school plans to raise the money. Or are they just doing everything they possibly can to dick over poor students?

I'm hopeful he'll find another worthwhile cause that will accept his donation. Sounds like a good guy, even if you don't particularly like strip clubs.
 
2011-01-30 08:55:58 PM
I'm sure the pastor would have been okay with this if he'd been able to sniff each and every single dollar
 
2011-01-30 08:56:02 PM

globalwarmingpraiser: The the Wang takes over.u


Did the wang just take over??
 
2011-01-30 08:58:26 PM
If those children don't get some semblance of education, then they might not even make it to the college which they'll be stripping to pay for.
 
2011-01-30 08:58:35 PM
I have a big problem with this!

I am clearly spending too much money in his clubs if he has all this extra loot lying around.
 
2011-01-30 08:58:39 PM
www.sun-sentinel.com

I like Cheetah in WPB. The staff knows how to a let a girl do her due-diligence in the back-room w/o interruption; plus she sometimes even brings her own snow to the slopes. This article is a bunch of shiat.

/Yes, back-rooms are fun.
//And no, I don't have AIDS/herp/hep/gohn/etc.
///Slashies.
 
2011-01-30 08:58:56 PM

FirstNationalBastard: baka-san: So, we have a guy who gives hundreds of thousands of dollars a year to help at risk kids...

He runs a legal business...

F*ck you fundies, I hope your kids get teen pregnant and hooked on drugs.

Yeah, but then they would say it was the fault of guys like the strip club owner, who destroyed the morals of their community by bringing his filth into their back yards.


Nah. The kids were already messed up. He just provided them a means to earn some money on the side to pay for college. Plus it gets them out of the house for a while and get some exercise.

/th..the ca
//the cat in th......fark this...
 
2011-01-30 09:02:04 PM

SilentStrider: our only major quarrel's with your total lack of morals.


We put the, uh... "oos" in "Roosevelt Elementary"?
 
2011-01-30 09:02:27 PM

fatalvenom: The staff knows how to a let a girl do her due-diligence in the back-room w/o interruption


So he's a weird little fat guy that used to be a shoeshine and now runs a borderline brothel, and all of a sudden he's showing just a little too much interest in the local kids?
 
2011-01-30 09:04:37 PM
I work there.
20 years ago the old owner did the same thing to help out
a little league team that did not raise enough for their uniforms
or their trip to washington. He paid for all of it.

newspaper found out, money returned, no trip for kids, no uniforms.

Joe spends a lot to help others and asks nothing from it..

lame ass people in palm beach
 
2011-01-30 09:05:16 PM

fatalvenom: plus she sometimes even brings her own snow to the slopes. This article is a bunch of shiat.

/Yes, back-rooms are fun.


What does the snow comment mean?

Also, are they farking the girls in the back rooms?

How long have I not known about this?
 
2011-01-30 09:05:43 PM

fatalvenom: I like Cheetah in WPB. The staff knows how to a let a girl do her due-diligence in the back-room w/o interruption; plus she sometimes even brings her own snow to the slopes. This article is a bunch of shiat.

/Yes, back-rooms are fun.
//And no, I don't have AIDS/herp/hep/gohn/etc.
///Slashies.


Does this mean drugs?
 
2011-01-30 09:06:06 PM
FTFA: "It came from someone associated with the exploitation of women - and that demeans half the population," Verdugo said. "If you do that, where do you draw the line? That's not the message to send to kids - that it's OK to exploit women."

No, pastor. I guess the message we SHOULD be sending is that women are like children, incapable of making their own decisions. If they decide to work in a strip club, it must be some evil man making them do it, or tricking them into it or taking advantage of them. Except that doesn't fit the definition of any of the strippers I've known. I guess it doesn't ever occur to people like the good pastor that some people might choose to do things that the pastor would not choose to do. But then, that must make them wrong, right?
 
2011-01-30 09:06:09 PM
FTFA:"It came from someone associated with the exploitation of women - and that demeans half the population," Verdugo said. "If you do that, where do you draw the line? That's not the message to send to kids - that it's OK to exploit women."

Strip clubs don't exploit women, they exploit MEN. Men are the patrons targeted by strippers and strip club owners. Strip clubs allow women with absolutely NO skill set to gyrate in front of a man and make a LOT of money. The men are the victims here, because we are being played on an evolutionary level. Man would move the earth to see that, but the owners have made it convenient by allowing you to simply give them your paycheck to get it.

/This guy is awesome too. Self made man that is living a good life and gives back. And he isn't donating to some frou-frou celebrity backed African AIDS charity, no, he is giving money to the COMMUNITY around him. That's how it is done folks.
 
2011-01-30 09:06:47 PM
Step 1: Profit!
Step 2: Buy $20,000 worth of gift cards for school clothes and supplies.
Step 3: Hold a pep rally on a Saturday. Invite every family in the district.
Step 4: Get a head count of the minors in the audience, distribute the supplies evenly.
Step 5: ??? (in which the uptight fundies don't get squat)
Step 6: Tax deduction!

/first time Profit! ever took place in step 1
//have to make sure the parents spend the gift cards on the intended use, that's the only weakness in my otherwise clever plan
///slash slash slash
 
2011-01-30 09:06:53 PM

FirstNationalBastard: "One has to look at the broader picture," Jones said. "This is a business that is legal, even though, in a lot of circles, it isn't fully received by society. But we're not living in a world where anyone is on a perfect pedestal. You have to ask 'Does the good outweigh the bad?' "


If I rob a bank and donate the money to charity, does the good outweigh the bad? If I cover a hobo in blood and drop him off at the police station so he will get 3 meals a day, a roof over his head, and a bed to sleep on, does the good outweigh the bad?
 
2011-01-30 09:08:05 PM

SilentStrider: SilentStrider: our only major quarrel's with your total lack of morals.

(and to head off any comment's at the pass, I know I used an apostrophe incorrectly there)


Uh, no you didn't. Your apostrophe is marking a contraction.
quarrel's = quarrel is
Our only major quarrel is with your total lack of morals. You were right the first time.
 
2011-01-30 09:08:07 PM

SilentStrider: (and to head off any comments at the pass, I know I used an apostrophe incorrectly there)


Why? You used a valid contraction of "is." For example: "The cat's in the cradle."
 
2011-01-30 09:08:54 PM
FTFA: "It came from someone associated with the exploitation of women - and that demeans half the population," Verdugo said. "If you do that, where do you draw the line? That's not the message to send to kids - that it's OK to exploit women."


Is it really exploitation when these women voluntarily sign up to be dancers? I'm going with no.

Also, I highly doubt the kids are going to be asking where their new books and computers came from.
 
2011-01-30 09:09:30 PM

SilentStrider: SilentStrider: our only major quarrel's with your total lack of morals.

(and to head off any comments at the pass, I know I used an apostrophe incorrectly there)

.
.
You used it correctly.

Was that a troll?
 
2011-01-30 09:10:08 PM

GoSurfing: /This guy is awesome too. Self made man that is living a good life and gives back. And he isn't donating to some frou-frou celebrity backed African AIDS charity, no, he is giving money to the COMMUNITY around him. That's how it is done folks.


Giving money to the community that was coming from members of the community who would rather go to strip clubs than help their own community.

Sigh.
 
2011-01-30 09:10:18 PM

Tobin_Lam: FirstNationalBastard: "One has to look at the broader picture," Jones said. "This is a business that is legal, even though, in a lot of circles, it isn't fully received by society. But we're not living in a world where anyone is on a perfect pedestal. You have to ask 'Does the good outweigh the bad?' "

If I rob a bank taxpayer and donate redistribute the money to charity through welfare programs, does the good outweigh the bad? If I cover a hobo in blood and drop him off at the police station so he will get 3 meals a day, a roof over his head, and a bed to sleep on, does the good outweigh the bad?


No. No it does not. However, this guy didn't steal anyone's money. They handed it over voluntarily, to people who voluntarily sought employment at the establishment. Where's the evil in that? Both of your examples relied on non-consensual acts to make them bad. Where is the non-consensual act in the real story?
 
2011-01-30 09:10:32 PM
"Exploiting Women"

What a bunch of BS.
 
2011-01-30 09:10:43 PM
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2011-01-30 09:11:33 PM

untaken_name: FTFA: "It came from someone associated with the exploitation of women - and that demeans half the population," Verdugo said. "If you do that, where do you draw the line? That's not the message to send to kids - that it's OK to exploit women."

No, pastor. I guess the message we SHOULD be sending is that women are like children, incapable of making their own decisions. If they decide to work in a strip club, it must be some evil man making them do it, or tricking them into it or taking advantage of them. Except that doesn't fit the definition of any of the strippers I've known. I guess it doesn't ever occur to people like the good pastor that some people might choose to do things that the pastor would not choose to do. But then, that must make them wrong, right?


FYI, Christian Verdugo is head of the Florida Christian Family Coalition. I don't think he is a pastor.
 
2011-01-30 09:11:59 PM

Crown_of_Shoes: fatalvenom: plus she sometimes even brings her own snow to the slopes. This article is a bunch of shiat.

/Yes, back-rooms are fun.

What does the snow comment mean?

Also, are they farking the girls in the back rooms?

How long have I not known about this?


Snow comment?

stuntbox.com

We don't ski in S. FL, unless it's at a strip-club or on water.


Farking chicks in the back room?


Been doing it since I turned 18. My cack hasn't rotted-off yet; god-bless me.


How long have you not known about it?


Bro; some powder, cash, and a half-way decent smile will get you anything you want a strip-club.


Charge that to tha game SON!!!
www.bittenandbound.com
 
2011-01-30 09:12:45 PM

untaken_name: Tobin_Lam: FirstNationalBastard: "One has to look at the broader picture," Jones said. "This is a business that is legal, even though, in a lot of circles, it isn't fully received by society. But we're not living in a world where anyone is on a perfect pedestal. You have to ask 'Does the good outweigh the bad?' "

If I rob a bank taxpayer and donate redistribute the money to charity through welfare programs, does the good outweigh the bad? If I cover a hobo in blood and drop him off at the police station so he will get 3 meals a day, a roof over his head, and a bed to sleep on, does the good outweigh the bad?

No. No it does not. However, this guy didn't steal anyone's money. They handed it over voluntarily, to people who voluntarily sought employment at the establishment. Where's the evil in that? Both of your examples relied on non-consensual acts to make them bad. Where is the non-consensual act in the real story?


The strippers get paid by customers and paid by the establishment? How does the establishment make money?
 
2011-01-30 09:13:10 PM
I'n glad that the fundies are putting their money where their mouth is, and ponying up the replacement $20K to help the schools, the same way they bought uniforms and sent those kids up to DC 20 years ago....

/oh wait
 
2011-01-30 09:13:54 PM
Like, coke?
 
2011-01-30 09:14:04 PM

Je5tEr: Sigh.


Call the waaambulance. At least they are purchasing a service provided in the good ol' US of A. They could have just gone out and bought a bunch of shiatty goods made in China instead, and then you'd get NO money back. How about that?
 
2011-01-30 09:15:34 PM

astonrickenbach: FYI, Christian Verdugo is head of the Florida Christian Family Coalition. I don't think he is a pastor.


Sorry for the poor word choice. I just figured that anyone who'd head up an organization like that would at least be ordained. My mistake.
 
2011-01-30 09:15:42 PM
"It came from someone associated with the exploitation of women - and that demeans half the population," Verdugo said. "If you do that, where do you draw the line? That's not the message to send to kids - that it's OK to exploit women."

So I guess they'd return a charity gift from Walmart since they exploit poor workers and child-laborers in the far east?

The pastor made the most sense. Verdugo, who is head of some idiotic moral outrage group (probably a bunch of uptight, holier-than-thou Christian hypocrites), doesn't speak for most people who follow Christ. I know it's hard for some farkers to believe, but it's the same as thinking that Al Sharpton speaks for all African Americans.
 
2011-01-30 09:18:45 PM

tbyte: The strippers get paid by customers and paid by the establishment? How does the establishment make money?


It charges at the door and it sells drinks (and sometimes takes a cut of the dancer's tips). I am guessing you're not too familiar with how strip clubs work, are you? At some establishments, the dancers are paid a small amount in addition to their tips, in some they work for tips only, and in some they must pay a fee (straight fee or commission) to work there.
 
2011-01-30 09:19:35 PM

GoSurfing: FTFA:"It came from someone associated with the exploitation of women - and that demeans half the population," Verdugo said. "If you do that, where do you draw the line? That's not the message to send to kids - that it's OK to exploit women."

Strip clubs don't exploit women, they exploit MEN. Men are the patrons targeted by strippers and strip club owners. Strip clubs allow women with absolutely NO skill set to gyrate in front of a man and make a LOT of money. The men are the victims here, because we are being played on an evolutionary level. Man would move the earth to see that, but the owners have made it convenient by allowing you to simply give them your paycheck to get it.


Yeah, more or less this. I will say that some of my best friends have been strippers too and even though they fleeced the wallets of most patrons (mine too - that's how I met most of them) most of them didn't really enjoy it.

of course they enjoyed the easy money - that's why they did it, but a few who I knew just couldn't deal with the job without drinking constantly.

I got sick of the exploitation too (mostly of my wallet) which is why I haven't been to a titty bar in years.

But if I ever find out where The Spanish Moon (new window) is I'll be all over it like a fly on shiat.
 
2011-01-30 09:19:51 PM

VictorOfBorge: "It came from someone associated with the exploitation of women - and that demeans half the population," Verdugo said. "If you do that, where do you draw the line? That's not the message to send to kids - that it's OK to exploit women."

So I guess they'd return a charity gift from Walmart since they exploit poor workers and child-laborers in the far east?

The pastor made the most sense. Verdugo, who is head of some idiotic moral outrage group (probably a bunch of uptight, holier-than-thou Christian hypocrites), doesn't speak for most people who follow Christ. I know it's hard for some farkers to believe, but it's the same as thinking that Al Sharpton speaks for all African Americans.


Yeah, that's idiocy. Everyone knows it's Kanye West.
 
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