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(NW Florida Daily News)   18-year-old arrested for picking on his little brother. Fark: His mother called the police on him   (nwfdailynews.com) divider line 57
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2011-01-30 08:58:01 AM
18 year old in jail will find out about getting picked on.
 
2011-01-30 10:06:58 AM
18-year-old arrested for being normal, doing what kids have done through out the ages.
 
2011-01-30 12:26:27 PM
jehovahs witness protection: 18-year-old arrested for being normal, doing what kids have done through out the ages.

Depends on the actual facts and the sort of hitting going on. There is a huge difference from brotherly bickering and actual abuse. I'm the 2nd oldest of 5 brothers, if you are hitting him hard enough to leave a mark, you are hitting too hard.
 
2011-01-30 12:27:25 PM
It's not news, it's Fark.com
 
2011-01-30 12:45:34 PM
This is going to make for an awkward Christmas.
 
2011-01-30 12:46:05 PM
If an 18-year-old man has no problem slapping a small child, then what's to stop him from slapping around his mom?
 
2011-01-30 12:48:41 PM
Eh, shiat rolls downhill

Ask my younger brother

We laugh about it now

/he can kick my ass now
 
2011-01-30 12:55:37 PM
pfft, it's what brothers do. Had my fair share of black eyes from my older brother growing up since we were both babies.

/Am now a kickboxer
//he's not
///I can kick his ass now
////I'm not LittleSmitty's brother
 
2011-01-30 12:56:13 PM
pomojane: If an 18-year-old man has no problem slapping a small child, then what's to stop him from slapping around his mom?

You shouldn't be smacking your little brother in the face when you're 18. If you have that little control over yourself at that age, you're probably a mess in general.
 
2011-01-30 12:57:41 PM
He was mad at his mother, so he hit his little brother instead. If you read the damn article, you will find that this is not the first time it's happened.

My brother went through a phase like that... only instead of hitting a sibling, he'd threaten/punch my mom. My mom got tired of his shiat pretty quick, and told him that if he ever threatened or hit her again, she'd call the cops. Yeah, he did it again. And she made good and called the cops, and had him arrested. He spent the night in jail. And he never raised a hand to her again.

Some kids just don't get that violent behavior isn't cute, and need to see what their shiat will get them in the real world. I approve.
 
2011-01-30 12:58:07 PM
How old is the younger brother?
Is he like 5, or 16?
I think that is kind of the most important detail in the case.
Thanks for leaving it out, article.
 
2011-01-30 01:00:09 PM
He's getting what he deserves. Welcome to the age of legal responsibility, dumbshiat.
 
2011-01-30 01:03:32 PM
Satan_Himself: He's getting what he deserves. Welcome to the age of legal responsibility, dumbshiat.

This.

Why should being related to someone give you a pass on laws against assault?

Violence begets violence. Though violence is sometimes needed to stop violence.
 
2011-01-30 01:04:33 PM
Her kid is abusing a smaller child in the family. Sounds like Mom did the right thing.
Punching a kid to get back at someone else means that boy is a danger to more than his family.
 
2011-01-30 01:07:00 PM
Begoggle: How old is the younger brother?
Is he like 5, or 16?
I think that is kind of the most important detail in the case.
Thanks for leaving it out, article.


So if the kid is 16 and just minding his own business he deserves to be hit?

If it was a little kid I'm sure there would be child abuse charges.
 
2011-01-30 01:18:33 PM
marius2: pfft, it's what brothers do. Had my fair share of black eyes from my older brother growing up since we were both babies.

/Am now a kickboxer
//he's not
///I can kick his ass now
////I'm not LittleSmitty's brother


Just because you come from a dysfunctional family with horrible parents doesn't mean it's normal
 
2011-01-30 01:18:35 PM
Begoggle: How old is the younger brother?
Is he like 5, or 16?
I think that is kind of the most important detail in the case.
Thanks for leaving it out, article.


An 18 year old should be mature enough not to smack around his siblings anyway.
 
2011-01-30 01:20:34 PM
Maybe mom should learn how to crack 18yo's skull with a crowbar. He is likely to learn the lesson and no need to get the fuzz involved.
 
2011-01-30 01:26:27 PM
This sounds fair, without knowing the age of the younger brother, its hard to know just how much of a dick 18 is, but the article says he smacks around that particular sibling because he is the smallest. I don't wish jail rape on Mr 18, but I do hope he spends a sleepless night scared out of his tree, maybe it will give him insight into what that feels like.

There is a difference between roughhousing and abuse and this wasn't roughhousing.
 
2011-01-30 01:32:59 PM
She said he hits the boy "because he is smaller than the rest of the children," the report said.

So the victim is smaller than the rest of the children, or are they talking about the perp? I'm confused. Do journalists even have to graduate from high school these days? Christ.
 
2011-01-30 01:36:09 PM
I don't think this is asinine. The guy is 18, an adult, and is probably physically much stronger than the mother. If he is being violent, then the proper recourse is to call the police.
 
2011-01-30 01:36:34 PM
I just like the link in the sidebar:
"Buttocks hiding fails again."
 
2011-01-30 01:40:41 PM
She said he hits the boy "because he is smaller than the rest of the children," the report said.

Ender?

/the enemies gate is down!
 
2011-01-30 01:47:41 PM
I'm 33.

At this age I still pick on my 18 year old cousin who is 6'6" and 260 lbs (way bigger than me). I hope nobody calls the cops on us, though I'm sure a laughing fit will ensue.
 
2011-01-30 01:51:27 PM
Begoggle: How old is the younger brother?
Is he like 5, or 16?
I think that is kind of the most important detail in the case.
Thanks for leaving it out, article.


Not really. 18 year old smacking around his 16 y/o brother or 16 y/o wife is about the same.
 
2011-01-30 02:08:54 PM
Krieghund: Begoggle: How old is the younger brother?
Is he like 5, or 16?
I think that is kind of the most important detail in the case.
Thanks for leaving it out, article.

So if the kid is 16 and just minding his own business he deserves to be hit?


No, but I'd still like to know.
 
2011-01-30 02:18:21 PM
SarahBW: Her kid is abusing a smaller child in the family. Sounds like Mom did the right thing.

Sounds like mom did the wrong thing about 15 yrs ago. Like teach her kid not to be a dumbass.
 
2011-01-30 02:19:46 PM
The peck pretty hard around here.
 
2011-01-30 02:30:33 PM
pecosdave: I'm 33.

At this age I still pick on my 18 year old cousin who is 6'6" and 260 lbs (way bigger than me). I hope nobody calls the cops on us, though I'm sure a laughing fit will ensue.


When you start slapping him in the face and leaving marks just because you get frustrated, I imagine the popo will be on their way. Or the EMS.
 
2011-01-30 02:41:52 PM
jehovahs witness protection: 18-year-old arrested for being normal, doing what kids have done through out the ages.

18 is not a kid anymore. time to grow the fark up. if he wants a fight let him get into a fight at a bar with someone his own size like the rest of us.
 
2011-01-30 02:50:46 PM
At my sister's wedding I was picking on my younger cousin. Who had just finished boot camp. Somehow I managed not to spill my beer when he threw me to the floor.
 
2011-01-30 03:13:20 PM
marius2: pfft, it's what brothers do. Had my fair share of black eyes from my older brother growing up since we were both babies.

/Am now a kickboxer
//he's not
///I can kick his ass now
////I'm not LittleSmitty's brother


Hows that white trash thing working out for ya?
 
2011-01-30 03:13:32 PM
At 18 my oldest son was close to twice the size of my younger son who was 14 at the time. He might have picked on his little brother, but he knew by then that the days of slapping children was over.

There's a thick line between being a bully and being a brother. It shouldn't be hard to know the difference.
 
2011-01-30 03:19:20 PM
YouPeopleAreCrazy: SarahBW: Her kid is abusing a smaller child in the family. Sounds like Mom did the right thing.

Sounds like mom did the wrong thing about 15 yrs ago. Like teach her kid not to be a dumbass.


I blame the father more than the mother. Men should learn how to be men from somebody that is actually a man.

Unless daddy is dead then he should have done a better job.
 
2011-01-30 03:23:12 PM
The DBS: I blame the father more than the mother. Men should learn how to be men from somebody that is actually a man.

This has nothing to do with knowing how to be a man, and everything to do with knowing how to be a decent human being. Are you saying that hitting younger siblings would be okay if it was a girl doing the bullying, or are you saying that a boy can't learn how to act like an adult from a woman?
 
2011-01-30 03:24:08 PM
For me at least, there is a difference between sibling spats (even ones that involve throwing a few punches) and run-of-the-mill battery.

A couple of siblings, with a few years apart and still teenagers (13 and 15, for example,) who trade a few blows and then apologize later in the day, is normal. It is not the optimal way to resolve disputes, but it happens, and intervention from the police is not required nor is it desirable.

If a sibling is abusing a younger sibling however, where there is a great disparity in age/size, and where it is a repeated phenomenon that cannot be controlled by the parents, then we have abuse, that must be stopped. Although the article is not particularly well-written, there are some clues that suggest this latter scenario is what is going on here:

1. The accused is 18 years old. He is an adult now and should control himself. Younger kids should also not resort to violence, but an adult should be held to a higher standard.

2. It appears that the younger sibling is simply being abused. We have the mother's statement that he is being picked on simply because he is the smallest, and the kid's own statement that he was hit for no reason, as well as the suggestion that the kid was attacked because the 18 year old was angry at the mother. This is a clearly dysfunctional situation.

3. Common sense suggests that the mother would not call the police if this was an isolated incident, nor would she call the police if it was within her power to scold the 18 year old, either physically or by using emotional/psychological means.

As such, the use of the police is perfectly understandable, and one would hope that the experience will teach this 18 year old to behave.
 
2011-01-30 03:27:19 PM
JonPace: marius2: pfft, it's what brothers do. Had my fair share of black eyes from my older brother growing up since we were both babies.

/Am now a kickboxer
//he's not
///I can kick his ass now
////I'm not LittleSmitty's brother

Just because you come from a dysfunctional family with horrible parents doesn't mean it's normal


Perfectly normal family, brothers fight, it happens. Granted again as mentioned the age of the sibling does kind of matter. My brother was about 16 the last time we had a serious fight, I was about 14 at that time, no biggie.
 
2011-01-30 03:33:25 PM
I have seen several situations where an adult older sibling was a terror in the household.

Unfortunately very few of the parents in those situations had the courage to get help from the police.

In one instance, by best friends roid rage brother was routinely breaking furniture and abusing his siblings. His mom did eventually call the cops on him, because there was nothing, short of shooting him herself, that she could do to control him.

In another a self-defense student of mine said his younger brother was threatening him with knives and he was afraid for his life when he would return from college for vacation. I told him to see if he could bunk at a buddy's house while home and to tell his parents that he would not stay at home until they got help for his brother.

Siblings squabble and fight as youngsters, but if you are still assaulting your siblings as a young adult, then you probably have some serious issues. Kids will be kids stops applying at about 12-13 years old. If you find this sort of behavior acceptible, please don't have children and do the rest of society a big, big favor.
 
2011-01-30 03:41:47 PM
marius2: JonPace: marius2: pfft, it's what brothers do. Had my fair share of black eyes from my older brother growing up since we were both babies.

/Am now a kickboxer
//he's not
///I can kick his ass now
////I'm not LittleSmitty's brother

Just because you come from a dysfunctional family with horrible parents doesn't mean it's normal

Perfectly normal family, brothers fight, it happens. Granted again as mentioned the age of the sibling does kind of matter. My brother was about 16 the last time we had a serious fight, I was about 14 at that time, no biggie.


I am not sure I would call that normal, but I am not going to accuse your family of being dysfunctional either.

I think the issue here is that it sounds like the two brothers were not fighting. The older brother hauled off and hit the other with a slap that left a mark.

As someone who is also a trained kickboxer/martial artist, I can tell you that most people would probably sue me if I hit them hard enough with a slap to leave a mark on their face, and I wouldn't even be trying at that impact level.

Obviously the mother felt it necessary to involve the police, and that means her instincts were telling her that this was a serious and dangerous situation brewing.

Just as you felt your situation with your brother was ok, you can't second guess her instincts in the situation.
 
2011-01-30 04:03:41 PM
Atharaenea: The DBS: I blame the father more than the mother. Men should learn how to be men from somebody that is actually a man.

This has nothing to do with knowing how to be a man, and everything to do with knowing how to be a decent human being. Are you saying that hitting younger siblings would be okay if it was a girl doing the bullying, or are you saying that a boy can't learn how to act like an adult from a woman?


I'm saying that grown men don't hit children. The comment was in answer to a previous comment about how it was the mom's fault.
 
2011-01-30 04:21:51 PM
jehovahs witness protection: 18-year-old arrested for being normal, doing what kids have done through out the ages.

Bullshiat. An 18 year old slapping a small child is not "boys being boys".

10:1 they have different fathers though, and neither has been seen in years.
 
2011-01-30 04:25:38 PM
marius2: pfft, it's what brothers do. Had my fair share of black eyes from my older brother growing up since we were both babies.

/Am now a kickboxer
//he's not
///I can kick his ass now
////I'm not LittleSmitty's brother


So what did you name your put bull and are you in a single or double wide?
 
2011-01-30 04:28:11 PM
pomojane: If an 18-year-old man has no problem slapping a small child, then what's to stop him from slapping around his mom?

Amen.

I very much doubt the police would arrested him if it was good-natured jossing among brothers. Historically, the police have turned a blind eye towards domestic violence. There had to be some reason to fear that 18-year old. And frankly when a kid turns 18, he is old enough to know that hitting is not something he can do in play especially if the mother told him to stop.

And as pomojane suggests, there might be concern about the kid hitting his mom as well. Indeed, teen-aged sons beating moms is one of those under-reported problems.
 
2011-01-30 04:28:31 PM
So now cops are coming in to do the job the mother wont do.

Wonderful.
 
2011-01-30 04:38:14 PM
Did every 'newspaper' website copy this template:
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I swear I see it on every news site, the exact same wording.

/except this one
 
2011-01-30 04:42:33 PM
Pootums:

When you start slapping him in the face and leaving marks just because you get frustrated, I imagine the popo will be on their way. Or the EMS.


It was hilarious, when he hit about 6'3" at 16 he though he could take me on because he was bigger than me now. He got behind me, tried to punk me and throw me to the ground. I grabbed him under the arm pit and at the hip, had him over my head like I was going to throw him, I saw his mothers eyes get about as big as dinner plates and instead of throwing him I just dropped him.

He hasn't really given a serious shot at punking me since.

(If I know it's coming I can probably still take him, but lets face it, he's fricken huge so I'm not 100% on that)
 
2011-01-30 04:44:44 PM
Bacontastesgood : Maybe mom should learn how to crack 18yo's skull with a crowbar. He is likely to learn the lesson and no need to get the fuzz involved.

Right. Hitting him with a crowbar will guarantee that the cops don't get arrest him. Then the mother gets to go to jail and he gets to go to the hospital. That's a wonderful solution.
 
2011-01-30 06:01:48 PM
jst3p: /Am now a kickboxer

Doing Tae Bo doesn't make you a kickboxer.
 
2011-01-30 06:15:11 PM
My brother and I had our usual sibling rivalries and the occasional rough housing. When it got too bad our dad would issue the standard threat of spankings and groundings. That usually got us to stop. From what the story says, this is way beyond that. Good for the mom calling the cops.

Also, I called the cops on my step-daughter a few times. She was bipolar and violent. The first time she came at me with a knife I decided to stop ignoring the problem and had her 5150-ed. That got me a nice week of peace and quiet. Especially since my (ex)wife turned into the ice-biatch at that point. Somehow my ex turned the entire incident around and I was to blame, even though her daughter ran from the kitchen to my bedroom to confront me with the weapon.

/I guess I was to blame since she attacked me because I took away her internet privileges for swearing at me.
 
2011-01-30 06:33:09 PM
This is a crime? I wonder if there is a statued of limitations. Still hate my sister for some of the things she did.
 
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