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(Globe and Mail)   Dad demands right to block bus aisle with his SUV-style stroller   (theglobeandmail.com) divider line 187
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2011-01-29 01:22:03 PM  
I've never before heard the term "SUV-style stroller," and now that I've heard it I'm filled with a desire to burn things.
 
2011-01-29 01:26:07 PM  
"human-rights complaint"? Really?

Someone with an SUV-style anything being a prick? Teh hell you say!
 
2011-01-29 01:30:09 PM  
How about you carry your farking baby like a man and fold up your farking tard cart while people try to get to work?
 
2011-01-29 01:35:24 PM  

Hoban Washburne: How about you carry your farking baby like a man and fold up your farking tard cart while people try to get to work?


How exactly does one safely fold up a stroller while holding two six-month-olds in a moving bus?
 
2011-01-29 01:37:46 PM  

Hoban Washburne: How about you carry your farking baby like a man and fold up your farking tard cart while people try to get to work?


He's a foreign PhD student who will claim all the rights and privileges he can, then leave the country as soon as he's milked the government teat dry without giving anything back to the society he demanded his rights from.

Fark you, Mohammad Ehsan.
 
2011-01-29 01:38:00 PM  

Hoban Washburne: How about you carry your farking baby like a man and fold up your farking tard cart while people try to get to work?


RTFA. They wouldn't let him because it wasn't safe.

Basically, the guy had a stroller that didn't fit, and demanded that the buses accommodate him instead of getting a smaller stroller.

I have a friend with twins, and she takes public transit with them sometimes. Instead of a side by side stroller, she got a smaller one which is more managable.

I see this shiat every day "I'm a parent, so I need a giant minivan size stroller". Shut up. It's not my fault you got knocked up.
 
2011-01-29 01:38:19 PM  
They could make them sit in the back of the bus so that the stroller wouldn't block anyone trying to get off but then they'd really have a human rights suit on their hands.
 
2011-01-29 01:48:43 PM  
I hope "The Road" type of world comes to fruition. In those times of severe famine, you must give valuable food/water to your little snowflake, or listen to their moans resulting from hunger and thirst.

Then you'll finally understand that when you celebrate having a kid these days, you're pissing Mother Nature off with your pollution.

/kidding
 
2011-01-29 01:49:05 PM  

ne2d: How exactly does one safely fold up a stroller while holding two six-month-olds in a moving bus?


By not being a whiny pussy.


Okay, okay, I admittedly DRTFA and just commented. If anything makes me feel like an old man conservative, it's how my blood boils when entitled motherfarkers get in everyone's way.
 
ZAZ [TotalFark]
2011-01-29 01:51:26 PM  
A Halifax man filed a human-rights complaint

It is my usual policy to oppose so-called "human rights" as that term is used in Western countries. I would love the job of saying "no" to all these complaints.
 
2011-01-29 01:51:57 PM  
If he is riding the bus then he is not important enough to change anything.
 
2011-01-29 01:53:08 PM  
He'd better be glad that he doesn't live in my area and ride any of the Lane Transit District (LTD) buses. With the exception of the EMX, you're required to take your child out of the stroller, fold up the stroller and put it under one of the two sideways facing seats near the front of the bus. However, if you have one of those small umbrella strollers, you can hold onto to it as long as it's not blocking the aisle, but that can be tricky if you're holding your child with the other arm.
 
2011-01-29 01:54:43 PM  
He was probably standing in the front of the bus with an overloaded backpack on too.
 
2011-01-29 01:54:49 PM  
What's he doing having two kids if he can't afford a car, anyway?
 
2011-01-29 01:55:09 PM  

ne2d: Hoban Washburne: How about you carry your farking baby like a man and fold up your farking tard cart while people try to get to work?

How exactly does one safely fold up a stroller while holding two six-month-olds in a moving bus?


Well, I'd start with telling him not to act like an entitled prick because he has a couple of crotchfruit.
 
2011-01-29 01:57:32 PM  
I hate the cult of parenthood.

Just having a kid does not make you somehow better.

Handicap parking is fine. "Family parking" is ridiculous. And in this case, blocking the aisle on a bus is a hazard for everyone on the bus. If there's an accident, a fire, or even if someone behind you just wants to get off the bus, it's a problem.

Nice work on your twins, Mo. You're not the first, and you're not special.

Maybe you could get the baby backpack and belly sling and work 'em together, but the guidelines are for safety, not just to deny you your entitlements as a member of the cult of parenthood.
 
2011-01-29 02:02:05 PM  
The bigger question is: when did 'pram' become an acceptable Canadian English word? I know it's Halifax, but there really isn't any excuse to sound like a pommey outside of Victoria.
 
2011-01-29 02:22:22 PM  

Bathia_Mapes: He'd better be glad that he doesn't live in my area and ride any of the Lane Transit District (LTD) buses. With the exception of the EMX, you're required to take your child out of the stroller, fold up the stroller and put it under one of the two sideways facing seats near the front of the bus. However, if you have one of those small umbrella strollers, you can hold onto to it as long as it's not blocking the aisle, but that can be tricky if you're holding your child with the other arm.



According to the article, those rules (or near enough) also apply on the Halifax Metro Transit.

This is another clear and unambiguous case of someone thinking that the rules that govern other people don't apply to him simply because he doesn't know how to use a condom.


/My dog had puppies once. I still kept her on a leash when we went out.
 
2011-01-29 02:23:27 PM  
Well I see that the bitter, child-hating brigade has shown up.
 
2011-01-29 02:25:08 PM  

ne2d: Well I see that the bitter, child-hating brigade has shown up.


It's not a matter of hating children. It's a matter of hating the self-entitled behavior of the parents.
 
2011-01-29 02:29:08 PM  
It's not like the buses are being "anti-baby," no matter what the article states. You can bring a reasonably-sized stroller onto the bus - just not a gigantic one. This may be inconvenient, but the rule is there for a good reason.
 
2011-01-29 02:31:18 PM  
It's a fire hazard. Case dismissed.
 
2011-01-29 02:31:25 PM  

ne2d: Well I see that the bitter, child-hating brigade has shown up.


I just hate oblivious, entitled assholes. Just so happens lots of them have kids.
 
2011-01-29 02:33:05 PM  

ne2d: Well I see that the bitter, child-hating brigade has shown up.


Hey, we made it here before the entitled "MY CROTCHSPAWN IS WORTH 10 OF YOU" breeders showed up, because we didn't have to lug widdle pweshus to its playdate, and write letters to the FCC about how they should make all of television child appropriate because we need the idiot box to do our parenting for us.
 
2011-01-29 02:38:24 PM  
I hope this guy gets ass cancer and his children die of loneliness and neglect. And I vote.
 
2011-01-29 02:42:00 PM  

ne2d: Well I see that the bitter, child-hating brigade has shown up.


I don't hate the children. I hate their parents with the entitlement complex.
 
2011-01-29 02:48:03 PM  
"Parents take buses with fear because they don't know how they will be treated," said Mr. Ehsan, a PhD student and part-time instructor in the department of political science at Dalhousie University.

How about STFU, Dr. Fear.
 
2011-01-29 02:49:38 PM  
THAT farkER'S STROLLER IS OVER IN ONE DIMENSION BY 10 CENTIMETERS!

farkING KILL HIM! BURN HIS farkING BODY! KILL HIM NOW! farkER! DIE DIE DIE DIE DIE DIE DIE DIE DIE DIE!


Or, possibly, match the Vancouver Transit stroller size when it goes to a panel. Or not, whichever.
 
2011-01-29 02:49:53 PM  

cryinoutloud: "Parents take buses with fear because they don't know how they will be treated," said Mr. Ehsan, a PhD student and part-time instructor in the department of political science at Dalhousie University.

How about STFU, Dr. Fear.


I'm wondering why they don't take the fear-free buses. Sure, they cost a little more, but, you know, no fear.
 
2011-01-29 02:53:54 PM  
Mr. Ehsan insisted he is looking only for an apology and a more flexible policy.

"I'm not seeking compensation, I need changes in the guidelines," he said.

NO PROBLEM: "No more terrorists or terrorists in training" How's that for you? Mohammad?
 
2011-01-29 02:59:54 PM  

kmmontandon: ne2d: Well I see that the bitter, child-hating brigade has shown up.

It's not a matter of hating children. It's a matter of hating the self-entitled behavior of the parents.


Exactly -- why should this guy get an extra ten centimeters for free? If we allow that, then everybody will want ten centimeters for free, and then where will we be? Where, I ask you, where?

I'll tell you where, it will be farking mayhem. Imagine for a moment if your car breaks down and you had to take a bus to get to the gym, and you only had a limited amount of time, let's say less than a half-an hour.

You get on the bus and there are already 50 people on the bus. That would be 500 centimeters extra people would be taking up in random dimensions. Where would your extra 10 centimeters fit? Would it intrude on someone else's 10 centimeter airspace? And then which traffic control would prevail?

And then you'd have tiny planes flying into you. People would step down into the footwell before the exit lamp is lit. People would stand in front of the yellow line. People would not pull their stop-cord to ring the bell until after their stops. One guy would pee himself and leave a stain on the seat for you to sit in (although that happens now). A Buddhist would set himself on fire causing the bus to burn and drive off a bridge.

I'm not saying it's a slippery slope, just that it could slide that way.
 
2011-01-29 03:02:20 PM  

VIDEOWALLART: NO PROBLEM: "No more terrorists or terrorists in training" How's that for you? Mohammad?


Court system in the future:

1) Are you brown?

2) Guilty!
 
2011-01-29 03:05:40 PM  

ne2d: Well I see that the bitter, child-hating brigade has shown up.


Yes. The only thing I hate more than your children is the incessant sniveling by the parents because the world does not kiss their rosy red ass. I loathe your smug sense of entitlement, a despise your bloated sense of superiority and I farking hate your expectation that I bow to your needs because you "have a child"! For hundreds of thousands of years human procreated without making a big deal of it, even today people in Third World Countries manage to do it without a farking cheerleader section. Come check in with me when you've done something remarkable.

/And this is me calm and collected without being exposed to some childbearing asshat on public transportation.
 
2011-01-29 03:17:58 PM  
You need to see the 'stroller's' on the streets of Manhattan.

They move for no one

/nannies movin' babies hah
 
2011-01-29 03:18:27 PM  
Man, I can't stand ne2d's child.
 
2011-01-29 03:21:40 PM  

Ennuipoet: Yes. The only thing I hate more than your children is the incessant sniveling by the parents because the world does not kiss their rosy red ass. I loathe your smug sense of entitlement, a despise your bloated sense of superiority and I farking hate your expectation that I bow to your needs because you "have a child"! For hundreds of thousands of years human procreated without making a big deal of it, even today people in Third World Countries manage to do it without a farking cheerleader section. Come check in with me when you've done something remarkable.


It's almost as if you have untreated childhood issues. Almost.
 
2011-01-29 03:27:31 PM  

Ennuipoet: ne2d: Well I see that the bitter, child-hating brigade has shown up.

Yes. The only thing I hate more than your children is the incessant sniveling by the parents because the world does not kiss their rosy red ass. I loathe your smug sense of entitlement, a despise your bloated sense of superiority and I farking hate your expectation that I bow to your needs because you "have a child"! For hundreds of thousands of years human procreated without making a big deal of it, even today people in Third World Countries manage to do it without a farking cheerleader section. Come check in with me when you've done something remarkable.

/And this is me calm and collected without being exposed to some childbearing asshat on public transportation.


What in the hell are you talking about?
 
2011-01-29 03:31:08 PM  
www.strollersdirect.com

This one is a Jeep.

/Hot
 
2011-01-29 03:32:35 PM  

Pocket Ninja: I've never before heard the term "SUV-style stroller,"


I prefer the term "Suburban Assault Stroller."
 
2011-01-29 03:33:38 PM  

Makh: This one is a Jeep.

/Hot


Damn that's ugly. It looks like one of Michael Bay's Transformers in mid-transform.
 
2011-01-29 03:47:36 PM  

Pocket Ninja: I've never before heard the term "SUV-style stroller," and now that I've heard it I'm filled with a desire to burn things.


Clearly you're not up on the "Mommy Wars." Stroller elitism is huge, both among the "urban" super-expensive sports or camping equipment style stroller aficionados who look down at "suburban" style strollers that people store in a car trunk, and among "suburban" people who natter on about safety and look down at the sporty types.

As for TFA though, what, their stroller was foldable? Fark 'em then, they should fold it. I might have felt differently if their choices were to leave the stroller as is or be forbidden from the bus entirely.

As it is the "wheeled vehicles" part of the bus can be overfilled, between the people in wheelchairs, those riding scooters, and then parents with strollers. Where I am the stroller people always lose out, they're told to fold it and move back.
 
2011-01-29 03:55:58 PM  

itazurakko: Pocket Ninja: I've never before heard the term "SUV-style stroller," and now that I've heard it I'm filled with a desire to burn things.

Clearly you're not up on the "Mommy Wars." Stroller elitism is huge, both among the "urban" super-expensive sports or camping equipment style stroller aficionados who look down at "suburban" style strollers that people store in a car trunk, and among "suburban" people who natter on about safety and look down at the sporty types.

As for TFA though, what, their stroller was foldable? Fark 'em then, they should fold it. I might have felt differently if their choices were to leave the stroller as is or be forbidden from the bus entirely.

As it is the "wheeled vehicles" part of the bus can be overfilled, between the people in wheelchairs, those riding scooters, and then parents with strollers. Where I am the stroller people always lose out, they're told to fold it and move back.


It's the same where I live. People using wheelchairs & mobility devices (scooters, walkers) are given priority over strollers on city buses.
 
2011-01-29 04:08:31 PM  

Petit_Merdeux: Pocket Ninja: I've never before heard the term "SUV-style stroller,"

I prefer the term "Suburban Assault Stroller."


The EM-50 Jr., aka 'The Li'l Winger?'
 
2011-01-29 04:17:23 PM  

itazurakko:
Clearly you're not up on the "Mommy Wars." Stroller elitism is huge, both among the "urban" super-expensive sports or camping equipment style stroller aficionados who look down at "suburban" style strollers that people store in a car trunk, and among "suburban" people who natter on about safety and look down at the sporty types.


I don't deny the "mommy wars" thing is there but when I've seen people with behemoth strollers and only *one* baby, it has been the early 20's mom whose only accomplishment is to squeeze out that kid and they want everyone to know it. They're usually at the mall trying to navigate their stroller equivalent of an ATAT walker through Williams Sonoma.

If I'm out in public (no grocery store), I use this:

i54.tinypic.com

i56.tinypic.com


You can't really tell but this thing folds up tiny and you can sling it over your shoulder with ease...and it's never in the way when carrying it like this. If I am in a crowded or limited space area, the kid gets carried as does the stroller.

I do actually have a Jeep brand jogging stroller but it is only for...well...jogging. And only in the neighborhood.
 
2011-01-29 04:35:22 PM  

UberDave: They're usually at the mall trying to navigate their stroller equivalent of an ATAT walker through Williams Sonoma


You should have used your harpoon and tow cables. It may be the only way to stop them.
 
2011-01-29 04:35:32 PM  
I don't drive and had to cart around my son & his cousins when they were babies. It is very easy with some planning.

First off, ditch the giant twin stroller if you need to take the bus. Baby backpacks, slings, or front carriers are your friend.

If you insist on bringing a twin stroller (or any stroller, really) get an umbrella fold stroller. There are tons of very nice light weight strollers that were made for this type of situation.

Like this one: www.travelswithbaby.com Folds fairly flat: strollerlife.com

And have it folded before the bus arrives. The driver gets further behind in his schedule if you are fumbling with your stroller while everybody waits.
 
2011-01-29 04:41:13 PM  
I have to push the pram a lot.
 
2011-01-29 04:41:27 PM  

unlikely: I hate the cult of parenthood.

Just having a kid does not make you somehow better.

Handicap parking is fine. "Family parking" is ridiculous. And in this case, blocking the aisle on a bus is a hazard for everyone on the bus. If there's an accident, a fire, or even if someone behind you just wants to get off the bus, it's a problem.

Nice work on your twins, Mo. You're not the first, and you're not special.

Maybe you could get the baby backpack and belly sling and work 'em together, but the guidelines are for safety, not just to deny you your entitlements as a member of the cult of parenthood.


Great post!
 
2011-01-29 04:42:44 PM  
Metro Transit guidelines allow "smaller" strollers, defined as those up to 105 by 56 centimetres, and asks that babies be carried while on buses. Drivers have explicit authority to prohibit larger strollers.

"Parents take buses with fear because they don't know how they will be treated," said Mr. Ehsan, a PhD student and part-time instructor in the department of political science at Dalhousie University.


michaelprescott.typepad.com

Why am I not surprised?
 
2011-01-29 04:44:15 PM  

penthesilea: I don't drive and had to cart around my son & his cousins when they were babies. It is very easy with some planning.

First off, ditch the giant twin stroller if you need to take the bus. Baby backpacks, slings, or front carriers are your friend.

If you insist on bringing a twin stroller (or any stroller, really) get an umbrella fold stroller. There are tons of very nice light weight strollers that were made for this type of situation.

Like this one: Folds fairly flat:

And have it folded before the bus arrives. The driver gets further behind in his schedule if you are fumbling with your stroller while everybody waits.


I'm surprised that it folds so flat with two babies inside. That's impressive.

http://www.babysmasher.com/ (new window)
 
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