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(Yahoo)   Joe Biden advises unemployed Americans to "hang in there." Sounds like good advice: It's quicker and probably less painful than slitting your wrists   (news.yahoo.com) divider line 100
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2011-01-28 11:46:43 AM  
+1
 
2011-01-28 11:54:11 AM  
newrivervoice.com

Not exactly "We have nothing to fear but fear itself!"
 
2011-01-28 12:15:57 PM  
Well, let's see... the economy grew 3.2%, the Dow is tilting up to 12000, more private sector jobs are being added every month, corporate profits are way up, taxes are lower... yeah, we're screwed.
 
2011-01-28 12:26:06 PM  

propasaurus: Well, let's see... the economy grew 3.2%, the Dow is tilting up to 12000, more private sector jobs are being added every month, corporate profits are way up, taxes are lower... yeah, we're screwed.


there were over 450,000 new unemployment claims filed last week.
 
2011-01-28 12:26:16 PM  
Hang in there is tough when you are only on unemployment, and don't have enough to pay all your bills. You have to pay the mortgage so you have a roof over your head. You need to pay utilities to survive. Tough to figure out what to just not pay from week to week. What are the unemployed supposed to do while "haning in there." Maybe he's hoping they will become homeless, so they can't vote against him in the next election when things aren't all sunshine and rainbows.
 
2011-01-28 12:35:59 PM  

SushiJoe: there were over 450,000 new unemployment claims filed last week.


This statistic posted without any context or comparison with past statistics convinces me. We're doomed.
 
2011-01-28 12:36:25 PM  
except, tfa says that it was actually yahoo that said "hang in there," and he just kind of agreed. his real advice is to stop smoking and eat a carrot once in a while. which really isn't that much better.
 
2011-01-28 12:40:38 PM  

SushiJoe: there were over 450,000 new unemployment claims filed last week.


Even in a good economy, there are around 400,000 unemployment claims filed every week.
 
2011-01-28 12:51:35 PM  

ManateeGag: Hang in there is tough when you are only on unemployment, and don't have enough to pay all your bills. You have to pay the mortgage so you have a roof over your head. You need to pay utilities to survive. Tough to figure out what to just not pay from week to week. What are the unemployed supposed to do while "haning in there." Maybe he's hoping they will become homeless, so they can't vote against him in the next election when things aren't all sunshine and rainbows.


Yeah, you know what else is tough when you're unemployed and dependent on unemployment insurance to cover your bills? Having your 'compassionate' GOP congressmen say "fark you, you lazy freeloader, no more benefits for you!"
Of course, they're just hoping the entire economy collapses so you'll be more likey to vote Republican.
 
2011-01-28 01:18:41 PM  

propasaurus: ManateeGag: Hang in there is tough when you are only on unemployment, and don't have enough to pay all your bills. You have to pay the mortgage so you have a roof over your head. You need to pay utilities to survive. Tough to figure out what to just not pay from week to week. What are the unemployed supposed to do while "haning in there." Maybe he's hoping they will become homeless, so they can't vote against him in the next election when things aren't all sunshine and rainbows.

Yeah, you know what else is tough when you're unemployed and dependent on unemployment insurance to cover your bills? Having your 'compassionate' GOP congressmen say "fark you, you lazy freeloader, no more benefits for you!"
Of course, they're just hoping the entire economy collapses so you'll be more likey to vote Republican.


Don't get me wrong, both sides are bad. But "Hang in there" is a load of BS. The GOP thinks that the job at BK will pay as much as the office job that was lost because your company was bought out or collapsed because their management wasn't paying attention to what was going on in the company. Not everyone is shovel ready and not everyone had the same paying job. minimum wage at some shiathole is not the same as a 50/60/70K/year job in an office. And saying "hey, at least your working" isn't a farking comfort. I just wish the people if office could understand that. But it's OK, they have a job.
 
2011-01-28 01:57:40 PM  
The message was "hang in there". That means don't slit your wrists, go hang yourself instead. That'll stimulate the rope-making industry.
 
2011-01-28 01:58:08 PM  
Hey Joe - Really?! Hang in there? Oh! Ok! Sure! Can you tell my creditors not to take my car or kick me out of my home while I 'Hang in there'?

That is the stupidest thing I have ever heard in my life.
 
2011-01-28 01:58:58 PM  

propasaurus: Well, let's see... the economy grew 3.2%, the Dow is tilting up to 12000, more private sector jobs are being added every month, corporate profits are way up, taxes are lower... yeah, we're screwed.


So the rich bankers bought up all the devalued stocks and drove the prices back up, and you think that makes everything all better?

Go back to school and retake econ 101
 
2011-01-28 01:59:34 PM  

propasaurus: ManateeGag: Hang in there is tough when you are only on unemployment, and don't have enough to pay all your bills. You have to pay the mortgage so you have a roof over your head. You need to pay utilities to survive. Tough to figure out what to just not pay from week to week. What are the unemployed supposed to do while "haning in there." Maybe he's hoping they will become homeless, so they can't vote against him in the next election when things aren't all sunshine and rainbows.

Yeah, you know what else is tough when you're unemployed and dependent on unemployment insurance to cover your bills? Having your 'compassionate' GOP congressmen say "fark you, you lazy freeloader, no more benefits for you!"
Of course, they're just hoping the entire economy collapses so you'll be more likey to vote Republican.


But if we end unemployment benefits, those lazy unemployed people might actually be motivated to get a job!* I know I wouldn't be motivated to find a job if I were getting those fat $100k gubbermint unemployment checks!


*This is what Lou Dobbs actually believes.
 
2011-01-28 02:00:46 PM  
When asked about how soon the economy would recover, the Vice President handed out a photocopied press release:

www-rohan.sdsu.edu
 
2011-01-28 02:01:11 PM  
Boy that Joe, he sounds like the kinda guy I can sit down and have a beer with.

/lolwut
 
2011-01-28 02:01:47 PM  
Next time the debt collectors call, I'll be sure to tell them I'm 'hanging in there' and they should understand and stop calling me 10 times a day and 8 on Sunday.
 
2011-01-28 02:02:50 PM  

TechnoMule: The message was "hang in there". That means don't slit your wrists, go hang yourself instead. That'll stimulate the rope-making industry.


But what about the razor and steel industries? Whatever will THEY do?

Probably the least painful way would be the garage/car combo or hypothermia, if you ask me.

/has spent way too much time thinking about this subject
 
2011-01-28 02:02:58 PM  
I wish joe biden would slit his wrists.

/I'll bring cups to catch the blood...
//sell it to Red Cross, or feed it to the bats
///if it don't kill 'em................
 
2011-01-28 02:03:45 PM  
came for cat. now leaving.
 
2011-01-28 02:05:51 PM  
As someone that's been "displaced" yet again (2nd time in 2 years) from another Fortune 50 corporation, I find the political posturing nauseating. My position at a very large insurance company (actually the whole department) was eliminated in March 09. I spent the next 11 months trying desperately to find work (amidst the wife's claims that, "I don't think you really want a job" and "you're not trying hard enough.") I finally got a gig at a very large credit card corporation, a couple months later the wife wants a divorce, I have to pay 10K in legal fees, only see my kids 1/3rd of the time, pay her alimony/child support... then find out last week, they're shutting down the corporate offices here and I'm on the street yet again.

I'm not advocating it, but I can understand wherein a person simply hits a wall and says to hell with it and goes postal. No golden parachutes, no pensions, no severance,... AND now I have to pay for health care 1K pr/mo to keep my kids & myself covered while on unemployment.

Yeah, so hearing some posturing, insincere bs from someone that will never EVER know what it's like to do w/o,... makes me envision crosshairs and such... but then again, I'm childish like that...
 
2011-01-28 02:07:14 PM  

ManateeGag: Hang in there is tough when you are only on unemployment, and don't have enough to pay all your bills. You have to pay the mortgage so you have a roof over your head. You need to pay utilities to survive. Tough to figure out what to just not pay from week to week. What are the unemployed supposed to do while "haning in there." Maybe he's hoping they will become homeless, so they can't vote against him in the next election when things aren't all sunshine and rainbows.


Homeless people can't vote now? When did that happen?
 
2011-01-28 02:07:19 PM  
He does have a biatchin' Trans Am though. Link (new window)
 
2011-01-28 02:08:00 PM  
Shows what you know. Slitting your wrists is quite painless if you do it right.
 
2011-01-28 02:09:09 PM  
i216.photobucket.com
 
2011-01-28 02:09:38 PM  
My dad's 61.
He was laid off Dec 2009 since the city was 'down sizing' after 30 years with them.

He's had cancer come out of remission 3 times. Him and my mom have never worked jobs that had 401ks or retirements, I'll do what I can to support them, but if his cancer comes back no clue what will happen. When my mom brought up the topic of retirement and health care (she is a secretary for a small lawyer and referees soccer (at 56) to make ends meet), flat out told her if I see an opportunity to emigrate, I'm leaving*.

How do the Nordic states or Holland like outsiders? Masters degree in mechanical engineering.
 
2011-01-28 02:10:45 PM  

ladyfortuna: But what about the razor and steel industries? Whatever will THEY do?


They can hang themselves too! From a big steel girder.

Probably the least painful way would be the garage/car combo or hypothermia, if you ask me.

Yeah, or suffocation. The key is to remove the CO2 from the air. The short-of-breath feeling you get is caused by a high concentration of CO2, not a lack of oxygen. So without it you wouldn't feel a thing. (That's why miners can't tell when they're in a gas pocket)

/has spent way too much time thinking about this subject

/has too
 
2011-01-28 02:11:30 PM  
3.bp.blogspot.com
It's better than what George was telling unemployed Americans.
 
2011-01-28 02:11:56 PM  
New industries but highly automated and the jobs there will be highly skilled not exactly enough to keep a nation of 300 million employed and off the dole.
 
2011-01-28 02:13:22 PM  
So the "reporter" spoke with the vice president, and after a conversation where he (maybe?) detailed recent improvements in the economy to suggest that some relief may be felt soon, she summarized this by saying "So, you're saying hang in there?" and he says, "yes", and this rediculous summarization is what the article is written on (and not the actual discussion).
I guess you can't tweet over 140 characters, so "hang in there" is good enough.
But continue thinking it's the VPs ramblings that you should be upset about, it detracts from the fact that 90% of news is so uninformative it should be considered comical.
 
2011-01-28 02:14:59 PM  
Well, what the fark did you want him to say? Businesses have realized they can maximize profit by NOT rehiring. So, no matter how good the economy gets, unemployment is here to stay. Also, if you are over the age of 40 and lack serious computer skills, YOU. ARE. SCREWED.

This is the new reality folks and guess what, it's not Obama nor Biden's fault.
 
2011-01-28 02:16:32 PM  

propasaurus: Well, let's see... the economy grew 3.2%, the Dow is tilting up to 12000, more private sector jobs are being added every month, corporate profits are way up, taxes are lower... yeah, we're screwed.


These are good things. Curious, much of the numbers under Bush were good too. Does this mean he is awesome? Look, stock market is neat and all, but for the majority of normal Americans, it doesn't mean much. Health costs are rising faster than ever, business is uncertain because of upcoming changes, massive outsourcing causes companies to do well (hence stock market happy) but at the expense of American jobs.

It is better, but much of the happy numbers are just on paper. I hate Obama with every fiber of my being, but the last thing I would want would be his administration to fail, because that just hurts me.

When unemployment is down to 7% or less, the deficit is not exploding, less Americans are on welfare and more are actually paying taxes, then I will breath a sigh of relief.

The numbers simply don't add up. Either something has to drastically change, or we are screwed. At the state and federal level, almost every single budget deficit is growing and the interest alone will bury us soon.
 
2011-01-28 02:16:46 PM  

Franco: New industries but highly automated and the jobs there will be highly skilled not exactly enough to keep a nation of 300 million employed and off the dole.


So what you are saying is that the unskilled are holding us back.
 
2011-01-28 02:16:48 PM  

HotSalsaZoot: I wish joe biden would slit his wrists.

/I'll bring cups to catch the blood...


I'll bring the beer. We'll get drunk and point and laugh.
 
2011-01-28 02:18:51 PM  

bump: As someone that's been "displaced" yet again (2nd time in 2 years) from another Fortune 50 corporation, I find the political posturing nauseating. My position at a very large insurance company (actually the whole department) was eliminated in March 09. I spent the next 11 months trying desperately to find work (amidst the wife's claims that, "I don't think you really want a job" and "you're not trying hard enough.") I finally got a gig at a very large credit card corporation, a couple months later the wife wants a divorce, I have to pay 10K in legal fees, only see my kids 1/3rd of the time, pay her alimony/child support... then find out last week, they're shutting down the corporate offices here and I'm on the street yet again.

I'm not advocating it, but I can understand wherein a person simply hits a wall and says to hell with it and goes postal. No golden parachutes, no pensions, no severance,... AND now I have to pay for health care 1K pr/mo to keep my kids & myself covered while on unemployment.

Yeah, so hearing some posturing, insincere bs from someone that will never EVER know what it's like to do w/o,... makes me envision crosshairs and such... but then again, I'm childish like that...


yeah, sounds like it. Because Biden and Obama actually have a plan to get unemployment back to the bubble minimized rate of 4.5%, they just don't want to bother.

'Hang in there' is a better response than the actual reality 'our previous prosperity was an illusion based on debt and the pre-crisis level, we're pulling out all the stops to keep unemployment from getting worse, and we won't fully recover for decades no matter what we do, so deal with it and work harder at your next job so maybe you're not the one whose canned'.
 
2011-01-28 02:20:23 PM  
Joe Biden is an ass.
 
2011-01-28 02:20:29 PM  

Debeo Summa Credo: bump: As someone that's been "displaced" yet again (2nd time in 2 years) from another Fortune 50 corporation, I find the political posturing nauseating. My position at a very large insurance company (actually the whole department) was eliminated in March 09. I spent the next 11 months trying desperately to find work (amidst the wife's claims that, "I don't think you really want a job" and "you're not trying hard enough.") I finally got a gig at a very large credit card corporation, a couple months later the wife wants a divorce, I have to pay 10K in legal fees, only see my kids 1/3rd of the time, pay her alimony/child support... then find out last week, they're shutting down the corporate offices here and I'm on the street yet again.

I'm not advocating it, but I can understand wherein a person simply hits a wall and says to hell with it and goes postal. No golden parachutes, no pensions, no severance,... AND now I have to pay for health care 1K pr/mo to keep my kids & myself covered while on unemployment.

Yeah, so hearing some posturing, insincere bs from someone that will never EVER know what it's like to do w/o,... makes me envision crosshairs and such... but then again, I'm childish like that...

yeah, sounds like it. Because Biden and Obama actually have a plan to get unemployment back to the bubble minimized rate of 4.5%, they just don't want to bother.

'Hang in there' is a better response than the actual reality 'our previous prosperity was an illusion based on debt and the pre-crisis level, we're pulling out all the stops to keep unemployment from getting worse, and we won't fully recover for decades no matter what we do, so deal with it and work harder at your next job so maybe you're not the one whose canned'.


Jesus Christ, make excuses for Obama much? What stops are they pulling out? Increasing taxes on businesses? Punishing hard working Americans? Letting people stay unemployed for two years with free checks?
 
2011-01-28 02:20:51 PM  

darkscout: My dad's 61.
He was laid off Dec 2009 since the city was 'down sizing' after 30 years with them.

He's had cancer come out of remission 3 times. Him and my mom have never worked jobs that had 401ks or retirements, I'll do what I can to support them, but if his cancer comes back no clue what will happen. When my mom brought up the topic of retirement and health care (she is a secretary for a small lawyer and referees soccer (at 56) to make ends meet), flat out told her if I see an opportunity to emigrate, I'm leaving*.

How do the Nordic states or Holland like outsiders? Masters degree in mechanical engineering.


I would guess they like them about as much as the rest of the world, you smelly, would-be immigrant.

How did your dad not have retirement through the city? In our state, all municipal employees have the option of joining the state retirement system. At his age and with 30 years on the job, he would be able to retire at 75-80% of the average of his last 3 years wages. It's a pretty good deal, and is one of the few things my state does really well.
 
2011-01-28 02:21:52 PM  
'Hang in there' is a better response than the actual reality 'our previous prosperity was an illusion based on debt and the pre-crisis level, we're pulling out all the stops to keep unemployment from getting worse, and we won't fully recover for decades no matter what we do, so deal with it and work harder at your next job so maybe you're not the one whose canned'.

The bums will always lose.
 
2011-01-28 02:22:29 PM  

bump: As someone that's been "displaced" yet again (2nd time in 2 years) from another Fortune 50 corporation, I find the political posturing nauseating. My position at a very large insurance company (actually the whole department) was eliminated in March 09. I spent the next 11 months trying desperately to find work (amidst the wife's claims that, "I don't think you really want a job" and "you're not trying hard enough.") I finally got a gig at a very large credit card corporation, a couple months later the wife wants a divorce, I have to pay 10K in legal fees, only see my kids 1/3rd of the time, pay her alimony/child support... then find out last week, they're shutting down the corporate offices here and I'm on the street yet again.

I'm not advocating it, but I can understand wherein a person simply hits a wall and says to hell with it and goes postal. No golden parachutes, no pensions, no severance,... AND now I have to pay for health care 1K pr/mo to keep my kids & myself covered while on unemployment.

Yeah, so hearing some posturing, insincere bs from someone that will never EVER know what it's like to do w/o,... makes me envision crosshairs and such... but then again, I'm childish like that...


I have been in those shoes before. Everyone knows it's tough, sure... but nobody really understands how soul-devouring and anxiety-inducing it can be until you experience it for yourself. (In my case, I spent over nine months unemployed, with a pregnant wife, in the middle of a big recession.)

But whenever someone told me to "hang in there" back then, I took it in the spirit it was offered. It meant someone believed my misery might be over soon. And I appreciated the sentiment.

And eventually, it worked out for me. Mostly because I never lost hope and never lost my head.

/ncs,b
 
GBB
2011-01-28 02:23:54 PM  

propasaurus: Well, let's see... the economy grew 3.2%, the Dow is tilting up to 12000, more private sector jobs are being added every month, corporate profits are way up, taxes are lower... yeah, we're screwed.


yeah, now that Republicans are in charge.

amidoinitrite?
 
2011-01-28 02:25:09 PM  

mod3072: How did your dad not have retirement through the city? In our state, all municipal employees have the option of joining the state retirement system. At his age and with 30 years on the job, he would be able to retire at 75-80% of the average of his last 3 years wages. It's a pretty good deal, and is one of the few things my state does really well.


Because... they don't have it. I think the city will let him retire "early" at 65. Meaning 4 more years of trying to talk him into doctors appointments. He stopped his last chemo treatments because COBRA just sucks. We try to talk him into going, but even the most basic tests are expensive as hell. He's convinced he's worth more dead than alive, which isn't helped by the fact that my mom left 3 1/2 years ago.
 
2011-01-28 02:25:30 PM  
Jesus Christ, make excuses for Obama much? What stops are they pulling out? Increasing taxes on businesses? Punishing hard working Americans? Letting people stay unemployed for two years with free checks?

Increasing taxes on businesses?
false
hard working Americans? Como?
Letting people stay unemployed for two years with free checks? actually 3.

Whats your point?
 
2011-01-28 02:27:13 PM  
Good headline, lulz and whatnot. What did Biden actually say?

Yahoo! asked Vice President Joe Biden Thursday to give some good advice for the unemployed. He provided a list of recent improvements to the economy, while expressing sympathy for those struggling to get by without a regular income.

"So the message is 'hang in there?'" Yahoo!'s Anna Robertson asked.


Great summary, Yahoo, subby.

SushiJoe: propasaurus: Well, let's see... the economy grew 3.2%, the Dow is tilting up to 12000, more private sector jobs are being added every month, corporate profits are way up, taxes are lower... yeah, we're screwed.

there were over 450,000 new unemployment claims filed last week.



In summary, the point here many seemed to miss is "trickle down" economics doesn't exist. The Dow is indeed up and I would conclude in this economy companies are doing great, many with record profits. People are not doing great.

This is your big litmus test to figure out whether you are Democrat or Republican. If you are Republican, you believe companies and the free market will right this problem and wages, salaries, compensation and jobs will increase. If you are a Democrat, you do not believe the companies will do this and you want to ask the government to intervene with things like increasing the minimum wage and mandating companies that easily can afford it to offer health insurance since they should have been doing that in the first place. It is also possible you do not believe it will trickle down but that it is not a big problem and the current unemployment percentage and benefits offered by companies are okay in which case you can remain independent.

That's how I see it at least and while I get striving for profits and it makes good sense, I see companies working their workers harder, for longer for less. Nothing is trickling down, all the hard work they do to drive profits for their companies runs uphill.
 
2011-01-28 02:27:27 PM  

milehighstar: Hey Joe - Really?! Hang in there? Oh! Ok! Sure! Can you tell my creditors not to take my car or kick me out of my home while I 'Hang in there'?

That is the stupidest thing I have ever heard in my life.


Really? This your first day with ears?

How about those who make it sound as if it is entirely the unemployeds fault that unemployment happened?
How about those that label them as chaffe?
 
2011-01-28 02:30:35 PM  
I love this administration so much.
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2011-01-28 02:32:14 PM  
lennavan:
In summary, the point here many seemed to miss is "trickle down" economics doesn't exist.

It's called 'trickle up' poverty.
 
2011-01-28 02:33:28 PM  

TechnoMule: ladyfortuna: But what about the razor and steel industries? Whatever will THEY do?

They can hang themselves too! From a big steel girder.

Probably the least painful way would be the garage/car combo or hypothermia, if you ask me.

Yeah, or suffocation. The key is to remove the CO2 from the air. The short-of-breath feeling you get is caused by a high concentration of CO2, not a lack of oxygen. So without it you wouldn't feel a thing. (That's why miners can't tell when they're in a gas pocket)

/has spent way too much time thinking about this subject

/has too


Suffocation via inert gas like nitrogen or helium is one of the most merciful and practical ways to go. I've seen guys get a face full of it and just keel over, and they go fast and painlessly.

However, the most merciful of all is to find yourself within about a quarter mile of a medium-yield nuclear weapon. You'll be vaporized before any of your sensory neurons send information to your brain.


Some terrible ways:
1. Not being close enough to the nuclear weapon, high dose radiation sickness.
2. Eaten alive by small animals.
3. Drinking corrosives.
4. Slow burning.
5. Falling into a crevasse in a glacier.

Some mostly pleasant ways:
1. Nuclear weapon.
2. Suffocation via inert gas.
3. Falling from extreme height.
4. Hypothermia.
5. Exsanguination.
 
2011-01-28 02:43:08 PM  
'Hang in there' is a better response than the actual reality 'our previous prosperity was an illusion based on debt and the pre-crisis level, we're pulling out all the stops to keep unemployment from getting worse, and we won't fully recover for decades no matter what we do, so deal with it and work harder at your next job so maybe you're not the one whose canned'.

0/10 - Apparently your view reading comprehension as an optional hobby and not an educational resource. I told you both positions were eliminated due to corporate downsizing - not an issue of work ethic or performance. So suck it fratboy, while your mummy-n-duddy are writing you trust fund checks, the rest of us went to college, got our degree(s) and have well over 20 years of OTJ experience and yet STILL cannot find gigs.

Better yet, drop by NC sometime and have your teeth fed to you one at a time.
 
2011-01-28 02:44:04 PM  
Crazy old uncle Joe is at it again. Why in the hell they let him talk in public is amazing. He's worse than Tarrell Owens when he gets a mic in front of his face. Will anyone be able to shut this guy up before he makes Chaney look statesman-like? Someone should try to figure the odds.

Just yesterday he was out destroying US credibility with the kind of people we want to build it the most with by saying that Mubarak is not a dictator. I mean, shiat man. He is the absolute, dictionary definition of a dictator even if he does side with us. He's not doing it because he's wants to be your buddy Joe, he does it because it's in his best interests.

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