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2011-01-28 09:41:19 AM
Get a brain, indeed, you race-baiting, shamelessly pandering twit.
 
2011-01-28 09:47:10 AM
What a farking idiot.
 
2011-01-28 10:01:36 AM
Ok 'baggers, help me fill out this list...

Things Americans are not allowed to discuss:

Gun control
Reagan's actual policies
Wall Street's role in the banking meltdown
Racism

I know there's more. Please tell us what other topics are politically incorrect.
 
2011-01-28 10:09:56 AM

Wendy's Chili: Ok 'baggers, help me fill out this list...

Things Americans are not allowed to discuss:

Gun control
Reagan's actual policies
Wall Street's role in the banking meltdown
Racism

I know there's more. Please tell us what other topics are politically incorrect.


Who said you can't discuss any of those things? Leaning on the "racism" canard just makes one look foolish, but if one is intent on looking foolish to the world, who am I to try to dissuade them?
 
2011-01-28 10:13:40 AM

Wendy's Chili: Things Americans are not allowed to discuss:


dancininanson.net
Do whut?
 
2011-01-28 01:45:51 PM
so apparently it is better to call large swaths of one's constituency racist than it is to call them easily manipulated retards. i guess that makes sense.
 
2011-01-28 02:18:58 PM
He, and the more extreme wingnut Democrats actually believe this.
 
2011-01-28 02:19:15 PM
Yeah...probably not.
 
2011-01-28 02:20:00 PM
"a lot of people in this country ... don't want to be governed by an African-American."

I know lots of these people, and it's true. What's not true, is that it had an impact on the election. They were going to vote for the authoritarian party no matter what color the president was.
 
2011-01-28 02:21:44 PM
I would think it's more racist to say that black people were too lazy to elect Democrats on an off year, but I guess I don't live in a Moranic Fantasy world.
 
2011-01-28 02:23:06 PM

Wendy's Chili: Ok 'baggers, help me fill out this list...

Things Americans are not allowed to discuss:

Gun control
Reagan's actual policies
Wall Street's role in the banking meltdown
Racism

I know there's more. Please tell us what other topics are politically incorrect.


Looks like you are in the wrong thread.
 
2011-01-28 02:26:14 PM
The racists wouldn't have voted for Obama anyway.
So one can only assume the mid-term losses were because not-particularly-racist swing voters bought into the derp about death panels, 90% taxes, and deficit-gonna-kill-us-all.

So they were idiots, but not racist.
 
2011-01-28 02:26:36 PM
he probably reads fark. that is repeated endlessly here.
 
2011-01-28 02:30:51 PM
The GOP is a bigoted party but I think the economy had more to do with your losses than anything, moran.
 
2011-01-28 02:32:03 PM
What's to excuse? They were the incumbent party during a continuing economic downturn, that's why they lost the election.
 
2011-01-28 02:32:18 PM
Dems go to word - racism. Never fails to amaze me
 
2011-01-28 02:32:36 PM
Economic losses caused by the GOP :P OMG why didn't you fix the mess we made?!
 
2011-01-28 02:32:43 PM
YOU'RE NOT HELPING.
 
2011-01-28 02:34:59 PM
Republicans are racists, it's just that racists really like republicans, register as republicans, and vote for republicans.

It's an important distinction.
 
2011-01-28 02:35:34 PM

HotWingConspiracy: Republicans aren't racists, it's just that racists really like republicans, register as republicans, and vote for republicans.

It's an important distinction.

 
2011-01-28 02:36:20 PM

HotWingConspiracy: Republicans are racists, it's just that racists really like republicans, register as republicans, and vote for republicans.

It's an important distinction.


are you Jim Moran?
 
2011-01-28 02:36:58 PM

DozeNutz: Dems go to word - racism. Never fails to amaze me


I heard minorities don't vote GOP because democrats are the real racists, or something...
 
2011-01-28 02:42:21 PM

HotWingConspiracy: Republicans are racists, it's just that racists really like republicans, register as republicans, and vote for republicans.

It's an important distinction.


Not Racist, but #1 with Racists.
 
2011-01-28 02:48:23 PM

Headso: I heard minorities don't vote GOP because democrats are the real racists, or something...


What happened to tolerance? The original plea was one for "tolerance". Well, I tolerated you. But apparently that wasn't good enough. Now we actually have to pretend to LIKE you, too.

This is why I'm a big supporter of gang violence. It pits one set of people I'm forced to "tolerate" against the other. If all goes well eventually I won't have to tolerate anything but excellent customer service and lack of southside gunfire.
 
2011-01-28 02:48:36 PM
I mean I wouldn't quantify it as "a lot" but it's definitely a non-zero integer
 
2011-01-28 02:50:08 PM

DarnoKonrad: "a lot of people in this country ... don't want to be governed by an African-American."

I know lots of these people, and it's true. What's not true, is that it had an impact on the election. They were going to vote for the authoritarian party no matter what color the president was.


It always brings a wry smile when people actually say it's the GOP who are authoritarians.
 
2011-01-28 02:54:32 PM

DemonEater: So one can only assume the mid-term losses were because not-particularly-racist swing voters bought into the derp about death panels, 90% taxes, and deficit-gonna-kill-us-all.


The midterm was all about those who didn't vote. The lazy who only vote for Presidents.

Mccain would have beaten Obama amongst the group that voted in 2010.
 
2011-01-28 02:55:07 PM
This country could use a few less people. We can't kill people any more quickly than we are now. The only fair way to do it is to choose a random personal characteristic of a large, helpless group and use that characteristic as the benchmark for deportation. I know a lot of people want to use "race" but I'm happy with anything that removes about 40% of the people somewhere else.
 
2011-01-28 02:56:16 PM
As we draw closer to the epic, seemingly never ending POTUS election cycle, you can bet the mindless drones and partisan hacks will step up their accusations of OMG RACISTS!!!11!1!

Of course, they have no shortage of hacks that either sit idly by and won't call them out, or even worse just nod like good little lemmings.

Tired racist meme is sad it is now a tired meme.
 
2011-01-28 02:58:46 PM
trashysworld.ca

It took this long to post the picture?
Really Fark?
 
2011-01-28 02:59:14 PM

Nabb1: Leaning on the "racism" canard just makes one look foolish


I'm not sure racism is a canard.

Does this dude have a history of crying "racism" when His Lilly Whiteness runs into trouble of any kind? Or is this a one time, semi-generic reaction to the incredible momentum that the TEA Party has gained in the last 2 years? I mean, it's unusual timing to say the least. We've had out of control spending for a long time. No viable third party. We've had Democratic presidents in recent memory. No viable third party. Libertarians have been loud and around for about 3 decades now, though admittedly more-so since a bunch of Republicans jumped ship a few years back out of unmitigated shame. But they've never really had a legitimate say in gov't, nor a widely accepted voice in national debates.

What I'm saying is... there's not a whole lot *different* about this administration that could garner such an impressive reaction by the body politic.

Well, there is that one thing.

I don't think mentioning that one thing is a "canard". Not this time, anyway.

/disclaimer: I don't think the TEA Party is racist. I think racism is adding adequate fuel to a fire that has long been present, but lacked the force necessary to propagate it into some kind of "organized" movement.
 
2011-01-28 03:01:11 PM

jjorsett: It always brings a wry smile when people actually say it's the GOP who are authoritarians.


Calling people authoritarian is just a knee-jerk reaction the public has when those people tell them they can't have abortions, can't marry people of their own sex, can't have sex before marriage, can't dissent against the government in wartime, and then tap their communications illegally.
 
2011-01-28 03:05:04 PM

3_Butt_Cheeks: Tired racist meme is sad it is now a tired meme.


It'd be a lot easier if the USA was more heterogeneous like so many European countries. When "minorities" swell to the point they're no longer "minorities" people stop treating them with kid gloves. The fact is there are just too many blacks and Mexicans to continue treating them like minorities. We need a new one.

I'm suggesting we import some Canadians or maybe a few Chinese.
 
2011-01-28 03:11:29 PM

DarnoKonrad: "a lot of people in this country ... don't want to be governed by an African-American."

I know lots of these people, and it's true. What's not true, is that it had an impact on the election. They were going to vote for the authoritarian party no matter what color the president was.


I'd 100% agree that those who were going to vote anyway weren't going to vote "democrat".

I'm about 50% that all the people who came out this time would've come out if the president were named William.

All the evidence I can really provide is voter turnout info.

Midterms 2006: 80.6 million (new window)
Midterms 2010: 90.7 million (new window)

Going back in time 30 years, the highest turnout (as a percentage of eligible voters) during midterm elections was 39.8% in 1982.

It hasn't been above 40% since the 70s.

Except in 2010, when it was 41.6%

Something made this election special.
 
2011-01-28 03:12:26 PM
He's right.
 
2011-01-28 03:18:48 PM

BeesNuts: DarnoKonrad: "a lot of people in this country ... don't want to be governed by an African-American."

I know lots of these people, and it's true. What's not true, is that it had an impact on the election. They were going to vote for the authoritarian party no matter what color the president was.

I'd 100% agree that those who were going to vote anyway weren't going to vote "democrat".

I'm about 50% that all the people who came out this time would've come out if the president were named William.

All the evidence I can really provide is voter turnout info.

Midterms 2006: 80.6 million (new window)
Midterms 2010: 90.7 million (new window)

Going back in time 30 years, the highest turnout (as a percentage of eligible voters) during midterm elections was 39.8% in 1982.

It hasn't been above 40% since the 70s.

Except in 2010, when it was 41.6%

Something made this election special.


We had punch. And pie.
 
2011-01-28 03:22:17 PM
Are these people:
a) racists?
b) patriotic anti-communists?

upload.wikimedia.org
 
2011-01-28 03:41:47 PM
These people didn't show up and claim to give a shiat about spending until a black man got elected to office.

How many other presidents have had their birth/citizenship challenged?

I'm sure it's all just a coincidence.
 
2011-01-28 03:45:22 PM
He's the only member of congress I've met in person (not my congressman) and I asked him to pass the ketchup (true story). Seemed like a real nice guy.
 
2011-01-28 04:16:35 PM

3_Butt_Cheeks: He, and the more extreme wingnut Democrats actually believe this.


Especially his constituents, who happen to be mostly federal workers and federal contractors.

/NoVA resident
 
2011-01-28 05:07:52 PM

nlscb: 3_Butt_Cheeks: He, and the more extreme wingnut Democrats actually believe this.

Especially his constituents, who happen to be mostly federal workers and federal contractors.

/NoVA resident


I've always pictured you living in a Chevy Nova. Glad to see my suspicions confirmed.
 
2011-01-28 05:31:19 PM

Karma Chameleon: These people didn't show up and claim to give a shiat about spending until a black man got elected to office.


You're absolutely right. If a white Democrat were in office Republicans wouldn't say a peep about the deficit. They'd just roll over and play nice, just like they did for Clinton.
 
2011-01-28 05:31:54 PM

DozeNutz: Dems go to word - racism. Never fails to amaze me


What would make people think the Republican party is in any way racist?

/Crazy talk
 
2011-01-28 05:59:13 PM
What people who are desperately trying to run away from the race argument always ignore is a little thing called benefit of the doubt.

Racism is not just calling people ni*BONG* and dragging them behind trucks. Racism is being quicker to believe the worst, and slower to accept the good. Racism is when you show blatant disrespect for the office. For all the lies Bush told, no Democrat ever had the nerve to interrupt his speech with "You lie!". So no, I don't think it was ALL racism, people are just stupid. Stupid enough to watch the Republicans destroy the country for 8 years and hypocritically impede what few efforts are being made to fix things, then re-elect those same Republicans because the Dems didn't fix everything in 2 years.

Racism just made some of those stupid people a LOT angrier and a lot more motivated. To deny the fact that some white people just choke on their own bile at the thought of being led, and in some cases talked down to, by a smiling black man just marks you as deluded. Go ahead and shout down Cohen, doesn't mean he isn't partially right. Racism, stupidity, and progressive apathy at Obama's center-right policies are the three biggest reasons for the midterm election results.
 
2011-01-28 07:27:20 PM
In 2007, many Americans and I heeded the call of Martin Luther King Jr. and judged candidate Obama not by the color of his skin, but by the content of his character. I found his character to be lacking in several areas and dismissed him as a person worthy of my vote.

I do not agree in any way, shape, or form, with any concept he has ever espoused about the future of America. I do not believe Obama was unaware of his pastor's anti America rhetoric. I do not believe Obama was a distanced from William Ayers as he claims. I needed only to hear Michelle Obama's words about finally being proud of America (for the first time in her life) to know these were not the people I wanted in the White House.

I do not believe the answers to the grand issues of the day can be solved by government. I do not believe a company that runs itself to ruin should be bailed out simply because it's been deemed "too big to fail". I don't believe Wallstreeters should have been saved from themselves either. I further think the bloated stimulus (begun by Bush and finalized by Obama) was a collosal waste of money that came up extremely short of the goals with respect to job creation.

As for Obamacare, I loathe the idea that those of us that work hard for what we get will be paying, yet again, for the welfare cheats that have figured out how to play the system for every dime they can get...just like they've done with every other social program they could get their hands on.

I cringed everytime the president made a remark about how much better Europe, Japan, and South Korea do everything when compared to us (during the SOTU). We are not Eupope. We are not Japan. We are not South Korea.

"We do big things." was his big rallying cry. No sir. We DID big things. Then we sat back on our fat McDonald's asses and watched as the government made it easy and affordable to ship those things overseas, along with all the jobs. We sat back and took it as government regulators inspired companies to try to figure out how to do their business with less people because more cost too damned much. Enter the costs and beaurocracy of Obamacare into the equation and employers are going to be employing even less!

So. Mr. Moran, Mr. Obama, fark libs, - I judged the current president by the content of his character, as I do with all people I encounter, and found nothing to embrace...Dr. King never said anything about being forced to LIKE character one finds objectionable...

To be certain, there are elements of racism in every corner of our society. White versus black, black versus white, Republicans and Democrats alike. But to cast an entire group as racists when it is patently and obsevervably not so is utterly and maddeningly offensive.

//cue fark libs to tell me what a bad person I am in 3.....2.....1...
 
2011-01-28 09:04:31 PM
Well, all I can say that this was a stupid thing to say publicly if you're a congressman. HOWEVER, most of the people I know that are adamantly opposed to Obama are racists. I could have gotten over half of the people at work fired for some of the emails I got when he was running. Although they didn't call him a stupid ni@@er, they were damn close and it's really sad.

I will however say, that having elected a black man for president, at least the ones I get now are on policy and the democrats in general and not his race. Maybe America is growing up a bit.

Of course the racists are so good at accusing the people bringing this subject up of being racists themselves.
 
2011-01-28 10:04:41 PM

Blade2567: But to cast an entire group as racists when it is patently and obsevervably not so is utterly and maddeningly offensive.



Oooh, and he trips on the dismount! That's gonna cost him a mess of points.
 
2011-01-29 11:34:51 AM

Garbonzo42: Oooh, and he trips on the dismount! That's gonna cost him a mess of points.



You must be the French judge.
 
2011-01-29 02:59:59 PM

Blade2567: In 2007, many Americans and I heeded the call of Martin Luther King Jr. and judged candidate Obama not by the color of his skin, but by the content of his character. I found his character to be lacking in several areas and dismissed him as a person worthy of my vote.

I do not agree in any way, shape, or form, with any concept he has ever espoused about the future of America. I do not believe Obama was unaware of his pastor's anti America rhetoric. I do not believe Obama was a distanced from William Ayers as he claims. I needed only to hear Michelle Obama's words about finally being proud of America (for the first time in her life) to know these were not the people I wanted in the White House.

I do not believe the answers to the grand issues of the day can be solved by government. I do not believe a company that runs itself to ruin should be bailed out simply because it's been deemed "too big to fail". I don't believe Wallstreeters should have been saved from themselves either. I further think the bloated stimulus (begun by Bush and finalized by Obama) was a collosal waste of money that came up extremely short of the goals with respect to job creation.

As for Obamacare, I loathe the idea that those of us that work hard for what we get will be paying, yet again, for the welfare cheats that have figured out how to play the system for every dime they can get...just like they've done with every other social program they could get their hands on.

I cringed everytime the president made a remark about how much better Europe, Japan, and South Korea do everything when compared to us (during the SOTU). We are not Eupope. We are not Japan. We are not South Korea.

"We do big things." was his big rallying cry. No sir. We DID big things. Then we sat back on our fat McDonald's asses and watched as the government made it easy and affordable to ship those things overseas, along with all the jobs. We sat back and took it as government regulators inspired companies to try to figure out how to do their business with less people because more cost too damned much. Enter the costs and beaurocracy of Obamacare into the equation and employers are going to be employing even less!

So. Mr. Moran, Mr. Obama, fark libs, - I judged the current president by the content of his character, as I do with all people I encounter, and found nothing to embrace...Dr. King never said anything about being forced to LIKE character one finds objectionable...

To be certain, there are elements of racism in every corner of our society. White versus black, black versus white, Republicans and Democrats alike. But to cast an entire group as racists when it is patently and obsevervably not so is utterly and maddeningly offensive.

//cue fark libs to tell me what a bad person I am in 3.....2.....1...


Easily the most intelligent post in this thread. It's a shame the thread is more or less dead right now so more people won't read it.

/kudos to you, good sir
 
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