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(Some Guy)   Protip: If you're going to use a cell phone as a detonator for a bomb, don't activate service on it until just before you need it   (geek.com ) divider line
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2011-01-28 10:24:25 AM  
Taking notes:
clatl.com

/hot like a special needs donkey
 
2011-01-28 10:25:05 AM  
www.daniellsmith.com
 
2011-01-28 10:26:08 AM  

DreamWeaver: That's what I was thinking too - but I kinda figured the speaker wires. Which may be what you're saying. But those speaker wires are tiny and I can't imagine they use much power. Maybe detonations don't need a lot of electricity.

I'm not an electrician, I just like knowing stuff. Some people collect stamps, I collect knowing stuff.



It's used to trigger the explosion, not power it. You wouldn't need a lot of juice going through the wire since it's just needed to tell the detonator when to do it's thing and set off the actual explosion.

So, phone rings, little power jolt goes through the wire to the detonator, which then in turn sets off the actual explosion - probably either with a stronger electric shock to plastic explosives or a detonator cap (depending on what explosive is actually being used).

Not that I have studied bomb design, just having soldered together many an electronics project in my day it's the simplest way I'd figure to rig up a remote explosion with a cellphone.

Do wish the terrorist asshats would spend their ingenuity improving their neighborhoods with DIY projects... Much more productive use of their time.
 
2011-01-28 10:31:44 AM  
*BeepBeep* "OH SHI-" *BANG*
 
2011-01-28 10:34:43 AM  
Hey subby I've got a Protip for you.

There's no such thing as a professional suicide bomber.

Carry on.
 
2011-01-28 10:36:08 AM  
So, how long before all cell carriers are required to send a text at random times to all phones once per day? You know, for safety.
 
2011-01-28 10:38:04 AM  
alexandersarchive.files.wordpress.com
Iraqi Suicide Bomber: Ok, I go in store, I throw Back-Pack, Big boom!

Iraqi Guy: No, no, no, you are big boom, big hero!

Iraqi Suicide Bomber: Okay right, so I throw backpack, come back and have big hero party with many virgins!

Iraqi Guy: No no no no no no. You BOOM!

Iraqi Suicide Bomber: Ohh ok ok, I put on backpack, BOOM, then I come back, big hero virgins.

Iraqi Guy: OK yeah, see you in a few minutes big hero
 
2011-01-28 10:40:49 AM  

mongbiohazard: Don't listen to subby, terrorists.


They can't read.
 
2011-01-28 10:44:01 AM  
I"m a little sad that Burn Notice isn't more popular on Fark; I was expecting there to be references to that show in this thread.

I'll just leave this here to keep this post from being me solely biatching:
www.nonpopulist.com
 
2011-01-28 10:45:33 AM  

mongbiohazard:
Do wish the terrorist asshats would spend their ingenuity improving their neighborhoods with DIY projects... Much more productive use of their time.



QFT


/Works both ways.
 
2011-01-28 10:45:41 AM  

DreamWeaver: bwahahahhaha I love it.

/I'm also intensely curious how using a cell as a trigger works - but I'm afraid to google it due to flagging something.


These things are not complex. The Mad Highlander basically posted most of the required components with his cool '1 missed call' photo. If you look the part numbers up, you'll get the concept and probably not flagged, they're very common components.

It's not the electronics which are the difficult part and the terrorists don't seem to have trouble finding explosives either. The hard part, I'd imagine, is convincing or brainwashing yourself or someone else that blowing up innocent people is the only way to forward your cause. (And of course not blowing yourself up)
 
2011-01-28 10:46:52 AM  
Mad as hell, text showin' up
Halfway to Allah, phone's blowin' up
Today I didn't even get to use my AK
I gotta say it was a bad day
 
2011-01-28 10:52:08 AM  

SpinStopper: BillCo: FTFA: While preparing her suicide belt at a safe house a few hours before the terrible act was meant to happen, her mobile operator sent her a Happy New Year text. That was enough to trigger the detonation killing her and making a real mess of the house.


Is it wrong that I laugh uncontrollably every time I read that?

Nope. Same reaction here. I'm not sure if it was the Happy New Year or the house comment, or both ;)


I'll say both. Darwin at work.
 
2011-01-28 10:55:00 AM  

Mr. Breeze: Hey subby I've got a Protip for you.

There's no such thing as a professional suicide bomber.

Carry on.


It's something they do for the rest of their life, right? Sounds like it's their profession.
 
2011-01-28 10:56:32 AM  

Vlad_the_Inaner: I wonder if she still qualifies for the 72 virgins.

/ and if so, why she'd want 72 virgin guys anyway

// especially when she could find that on most online forums Fark without blowing herself up


 
2011-01-28 10:57:03 AM  

DaAlien: Mr. Breeze: Hey subby I've got a Protip for you.

There's no such thing as a professional suicide bomber.

Carry on.

It's something they do for the rest of their life, right? Sounds like it's their profession.


It could be a labor of love.
 
2011-01-28 10:57:43 AM  
On the topic of cell bomb triggers, I believe they use the wire that goes to the vibrator (hur hur, he said vibrator!) motor, which according to Google, delivers 1.5 to 3V.
 
2011-01-28 10:58:44 AM  
Cellphowned.
 
2011-01-28 10:59:21 AM  

fat boy: Peaceful Pieces of Muslim?


FTFY
 
2011-01-28 10:59:31 AM  

DaAlien: Mr. Breeze: Hey subby I've got a Protip for you.

There's no such thing as a professional suicide bomber.

Carry on.

It's something they do for the rest of their life, right? Sounds like it's their profession.


You're not making money, you're not a professional.
 
2011-01-28 11:06:18 AM  

Lanny Budd: Do not text the dynamite monkey.


Too late.

www.e271.net
 
2011-01-28 11:06:32 AM  
Irresponsible reporting comes to fark. YAY!

Journalism pro-tip: Let terrorists learn from their own mistakes.
 
2011-01-28 11:12:20 AM  
So if there is some credible intel about a terrorist attack in the near future, expect lots of txt spam from our cell carriers.
 
2011-01-28 11:13:20 AM  
Family file a lawsuit against phone provider yet?
 
2011-01-28 11:34:04 AM  
According to the Moscow times the one woman who suffered premature detonation was the wife of Nogai Jamaat rebel who'd been blackmailed by one of his former contacts; basically "Do this for us or we'll kill you and your son." I love that you all are loving the narrow little view of the picture presented in this article though.

On the other hand noone else died and her kid is probably in "protective custody." But I certainly wouldn't dance on her grave.
 
2011-01-28 11:37:32 AM  

Lanny Budd: Do not text the dynamite monkey.


A winner is you.
 
2011-01-28 11:37:45 AM  
Huh. This means that telemarketers using computerized auto-dialers ringing up entire exchanges at a time to play back a recording trying to sell you auto insurance do more to prevent terrorism than the TSA.

/and nobody has to photograph you naked
 
2011-01-28 11:40:32 AM  

sp86: According to the Moscow times the one woman who suffered premature detonation was the wife of Nogai Jamaat rebel who'd been blackmailed by one of his former contacts; basically "Do this for us or we'll kill you and your son." I love that you all are loving the narrow little view of the picture presented in this article though.

On the other hand noone else died and her kid is probably in "protective custody." But I certainly wouldn't dance on her grave.


Kids actually, plural, my bad.
 
2011-01-28 11:52:14 AM  

DreamWeaver: Khanmots: DreamWeaver: bwahahahhaha I love it.

/I'm also intensely curious how using a cell as a trigger works - but I'm afraid to google it due to flagging something.

I'd imagine that you'd find the wire going to the ringer and wire it up to something else. Call comes in, electricity goes to the wire that used to be the ringer, and boom. Horribly horribly simple and doesn't take any real knowledge to do. Probably why they like using them for triggers.

That's what I was thinking too - but I kinda figured the speaker wires. Which may be what you're saying. But those speaker wires are tiny and I can't imagine they use much power. Maybe detonations don't need a lot of electricity.

I'm not an electrician, I just like knowing stuff. Some people collect stamps, I collect knowing stuff.


Just enough is needed to trip the relay that controls the larger circuit, never done it, but that is how I would.
 
2011-01-28 11:53:53 AM  
A house is only as safe as the people who occupy it.
 
2011-01-28 11:59:44 AM  
img253.imageshack.us

Does not approve.
 
2011-01-28 12:03:40 PM  

netsharc: On the topic of cell bomb triggers, I believe they use the wire that goes to the vibrator (hur hur, he said vibrator!) motor, which according to Google, delivers 1.5 to 3V.


OK, Army EOD checking in. You are correct. Once you take that voltage and run it through a transformer, rectifier, and capacitor, you can get about 16 volts AC. That is good enough to detonate any squib you need.

For an above comment, C4 is not detonated with electricity, if it did, static would be a very bad thing.

It works like this
1. Command Source: Object starting detonation sequence
2. Power Source: Object holding electrical reserve
3. Sequence Source: Object holding routing instructions for electrical discharge
4. Detonation Source: High order explosive charge, sensitive
5. Fuel Source: Low order explosive charge, non-sensitive
6. Ballistics Source: Included missiles
 
2011-01-28 12:05:41 PM  
Boys blowing up our phones, phones
 
2011-01-28 12:13:11 PM  

CJHardin: OK, Army EOD checking in. You are correct. Once you take that voltage and run it through a transformer, rectifier, and capacitor, you can get about 16 volts AC. That is good enough to detonate any squib you need.

For an above comment, C4 is not detonated with electricity, if it did, static would be a very bad thing.

It works like this
1. Command Source: Object starting detonation sequence
2. Power Source: Object holding electrical reserve
3. Sequence Source: Object holding routing instructions for electrical discharge
4. Detonation Source: High order explosive charge, sensitive
5. Fuel Source: Low order explosive charge, non-sensitive
6. Ballistics Source: Included missiles


Note to self: If you see CJHardin running, try to keep up...

/thank you for your service!
 
2011-01-28 12:23:40 PM  

MasterThief: CJHardin: OK, Army EOD checking in. You are correct. Once you take that voltage and run it through a transformer, rectifier, and capacitor, you can get about 16 volts AC. That is good enough to detonate any squib you need.

For an above comment, C4 is not detonated with electricity, if it did, static would be a very bad thing.

It works like this
1. Command Source: Object starting detonation sequence
2. Power Source: Object holding electrical reserve
3. Sequence Source: Object holding routing instructions for electrical discharge
4. Detonation Source: High order explosive charge, sensitive
5. Fuel Source: Low order explosive charge, non-sensitive
6. Ballistics Source: Included missiles

Note to self: If you see CJHardin running, try to keep up...

/thank you for your service!


Making a bomb is simple, making an effective bomb is not.

Remote detonation is not new, but I thought this was old hat. At least in a combat zone, it is. We had all sorts of jammers on our vehicles to defeat cell phone hijinks.

That said, it would have been effective there, but maybe they should have put in a failsafe. Kinda like the little piece of plastic on some electronic items that you have to pull out when the batteries are included.

/they already know it, they are just dumb
 
2011-01-28 12:50:34 PM  
Therealpope, I laughed so hard.

Also:

www.portlandmercury.com

/Hot like 72 virgins maybe.
 
2011-01-28 01:29:14 PM  

Crotchrocket Slim: I"m a little sad that Burn Notice isn't more popular on Fark; I was expecting there to be references to that show in this thread.

I'll just leave this here to keep this post from being me solely biatching:


AFAIK, we all love burn notice round these parts. Just didnt cross my mind in regards to the article.
 
2011-01-28 01:59:44 PM  
Am I the only one to call shenanigans on this?
 
2011-01-28 02:11:13 PM  

BuckTurgidson: Am I the only one to call shenanigans on this?


Yes, please explain.
 
2011-01-28 02:23:19 PM  
This is the happiest thing I have read all week. Really uplifting.

No, I'm not kidding. This really does make me happy.
 
2011-01-28 02:30:58 PM  
It's impressive since it was service provider spam. +1 Better than playing butterfingers with the DMS.

I'm surprised people still homebrew such mediocrity. A remote start kit for a car is only $50-$100 and handles the right voltages quite reliably.

/Who is the man in the black crown vic coming to the d--
 
2011-01-28 03:11:40 PM  
mongbiohazard:Do wish the terrorist asshats would spend their ingenuity improving their neighborhoods with DIY projects... Much more productive use of their time.

They do, that's why they remain popular no matter how many noncombatants they kill.

/also their idea of improving neighborhoods is very different from ours
 
2011-01-28 03:57:18 PM  
Afraid to google search?? WTF doesn't anyone remember how you found things on the net before Google?

lame

btw Hilarious!! I don't care how many children were being held. So happy she blewed up! I only wish I could've heard the ringtone that played before the explosion. (from a distance of course)
I imagine some Justin Beiber crap then BOOM!
 
2011-01-28 04:07:40 PM  
MasterThief

Note to self: If you see CJHardin running, try to keep up...

/thank you for your service!


I dunno MT, who is faster: him with his brass balls, or me with a load in my pants?

/Thanks for your service CJ
 
2011-01-28 04:08:02 PM  

RaisedOnATARI: Afraid to google search?? WTF doesn't anyone remember how you found things on the net before Google?


Before...Google? What? Talk sense!
 
2011-01-28 04:32:05 PM  

CJHardin: OK, Army EOD checking in. You are correct. Once you take that voltage and run it through a transformer, rectifier, and capacitor, you can get about 16 volts AC. That is good enough to detonate any squib you need.

For an above comment, C4 is not detonated with electricity, if it did, static would be a very bad thing.



Ah hah! I was unsure about that, so I made sure to mention detonator caps (I was probably thinking of blasting caps) too. I was too lazy to Google and I knew my answer was good enough for the question he actually asked.

Thanks for the clarification and the extra info! Knowing more is always better.
 
2011-01-28 04:33:31 PM  

Jeng: BuckTurgidson: Am I the only one to call shenanigans on this?

Yes, please explain.


I'll give it a shot:
-Officer Ivan: We've got her red handed now. Let's go pick her up.
-Officer Dmitri: Da....Hold on, wait a second comrade. I have an idea. (beep boop beep beep boop)

BOOM

-Ivan & Dmitri: BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH
-Officer Ivan: Good one.
 
2011-01-28 08:17:24 PM  

BillCo: FTFA: While preparing her suicide belt at a safe house a few hours before the terrible act was meant to happen, her mobile operator sent her a Happy New Year text. That was enough to trigger the detonation killing her and making a real mess of the house.


Is it wrong that I laugh uncontrollably every time I read that?


Only if it's wrong for me to laugh. I think it's freakin' hilarious.
 
2011-01-28 09:00:06 PM  
An unnamed government agency has created a program that will systematically identify and then ring every cell phone whenever a high government official is either present or scheduled to be at a specific location. This is being done in the name of national security.

This is in addition to cell phone jamming used as a protective layer.
 
2011-01-29 12:55:38 AM  

MasterThief: Does not approve.


He knows a little bit about premature detonation
 
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