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2011-01-22 06:43:57 AM

Hilary T. N. Seuss: Both incidents reportedly happened last week, but Flint said the school administration only learned about them Wednesday after a child came forward.

This has all the reliability of: Mrs. Krabappel and Principal Skinner were in the closet making babies and I saw one of the babies and the baby looked at me!

lisarenee3505: Lets face it, I was simply stating what 90% of folks who read the article were thinking.

I had been thinking no such thing. Can we get a survey going here, people? Raise your hand if you were thinking, "Boy oh boy! I bet I can guess the race of the people involved!"


Didn't occur to me either.
 
2011-01-22 06:52:36 AM

RodneyToady: I'm actually curious what protocol is supposed to be for a second grade teacher who finds two second graders engaged in sexual activity. I mean, do you physically separate them? I can tell you that if I was a teacher, the last thing I'd want is to have any physical contact with an exposed kid.


Say, "ok kids, stop it." Second graders will most likely listen, seriously.
 
2011-01-22 07:19:47 AM

D_Evans45: Also, oral is a sexual activity, calling it flat out sex makes you think penetration.

/Could you even get a woody in 2nd grade?
//I don't remember chronic boners til ~5thish when the girls started growing boobs


Classic literature from the school library.

img508.imageshack.us
 
2011-01-22 07:30:32 AM

AbbeySomeone: Trollmitter was a fat, homely child and no one wanted to play Dr. with them.


Okay, here's a doll. Now show us where the entire sixth grade touched you.
 
2011-01-22 08:05:02 AM
Is that you, Ralph Devine?

/obscure?
 
2011-01-22 08:10:59 AM

Hilary T. N. Seuss: Both incidents reportedly happened last week, but Flint said the school administration only learned about them Wednesday after a child came forward.

This has all the reliability of: Mrs. Krabappel and Principal Skinner were in the closet making babies and I saw one of the babies and the baby looked at me!

lisarenee3505: Lets face it, I was simply stating what 90% of folks who read the article were thinking.

I had been thinking no such thing. Can we get a survey going here, people? Raise your hand if you were thinking, "Boy oh boy! I bet I can guess the race of the people involved!"


Human?

/what do I win?
 
2011-01-22 08:20:57 AM
D_Evans45: /Cold

like a hot Carl.
 
2011-01-22 08:33:32 AM
FTA:

"Dr. Stuart Lustig, a child and adolescent psychiatrist at the University of California, San Francisco, said sexual play among children -- though often worrisome to adults -- is not uncommon, even at a very young age.

"They do experiment with each other's bodies," he said. "It's part of normal development.""

This guy is going to get canned next for telling the truth.
 
2011-01-22 08:37:53 AM
Lustig = German for lusty

giggity
 
2011-01-22 08:47:36 AM
How the interview with the kids probably went:

Principal - Stevie, tell us what you saw.

Stevie - Umm, well, Johnny put his thingy into Susie's mouth, then he turned into an eagle and flew away.

Principal - Go on...
 
2011-01-22 08:49:12 AM
Luckily it was just oral. If someone had peed in another's butt, babby could have been formed.
 
2011-01-22 09:01:14 AM
I smell BS. In the 2nd grade the sexes pretty much stayed apart. Sounds like rumor mongering BS and we will likely find the kids coming forwarded had the idea planted...

...but what the hell, I've been wrong before.
 
2011-01-22 09:02:23 AM
FTFA: "If these reports turn out to be true, obviously there was an unacceptable lapse of adult supervision," Flint said.


I'm having an unacceptable lapse of adult supervision right now, so I'm getting a kick...
 
2011-01-22 09:02:48 AM
There was forced sexual contact of some kind in my kindergarten class when a boy took a girl behind a bookcase. Dude is now in prison. Another guy, starting I think around second grade, tried to play "humping games" with other boys. Also now in prison. Yes, anecdotal but I'm not too surprised.

Me, I knew I liked looking at ladies with big boobies from a young age. I heard of playing doctor but never had any urge to do anything with prepubescent girls at any age. I can understand curiosity, but a second grader going down has got to be learned behavior or something just plain messed up.
 
2011-01-22 09:09:14 AM
Doesn't this sound a little contrived, a little far-fetched?

Reminds me of the stories the kids told during the child-molestation witch hunts of the 80's.

Yeah, yeah....kids never lie.
 
2011-01-22 09:10:50 AM
And all before a quick round of centrifugal bumblepuppy.
 
2011-01-22 09:15:15 AM

lisarenee3505: generaltimmy: lisarenee3505: Is anyone really surprised that this happened in Oakland? 10:1 odds that any random person can guess the skin color of both the teacher and the students involved.

if that makes you feel superior

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It does, but no less than your comment makes you feel the same. Lets face it, I was simply stating what 90% of folks who read the article were thinking. They don't want to admit it, but they were.



Ummm, NO you idiot. It certainly didn't cross my mind for a second until I saw your stupid post.

You should consider moving from the meth house you're in. It's clearly eaten all the brain cells.
 
2011-01-22 09:15:57 AM

1. Put snakes on plane: There was forced sexual contact of some kind in my kindergarten class when a boy took a girl behind a bookcase. Dude is now in prison. Another guy, starting I think around second grade, tried to play "humping games" with other boys. Also now in prison. Yes, anecdotal but I'm not too surprised.

Me, I knew I liked looking at ladies with big boobies from a young age. I heard of playing doctor but never had any urge to do anything with prepubescent girls at any age. I can understand curiosity, but a second grader going down has got to be learned behavior or something just plain messed up.


Came here to say this. If this is true, then someone needs to be looking at the parents.
 
2011-01-22 09:18:02 AM
While yes, most kids were afraid of cooties at that age, when I personally was in kindergarten and 1st grade, I was getting all the play I could.

/introduced to it by a neighbor girl a year older than me
 
2011-01-22 09:21:20 AM

Hilary T. N. Seuss: Both incidents reportedly happened last week, but Flint said the school administration only learned about them Wednesday after a child came forward.

This has all the reliability of: Mrs. Krabappel and Principal Skinner were in the closet making babies and I saw one of the babies and the baby looked at me!

lisarenee3505: Lets face it, I was simply stating what 90% of folks who read the article were thinking.

I had been thinking no such thing. Can we get a survey going here, people? Raise your hand if you were thinking, "Boy oh boy! I bet I can guess the race of the people involved!"


Didn't cross my mind.
 
2011-01-22 09:26:41 AM

MayorOfReseda: What, no pedo-bear image? I came for the pedo-bear image.
Fark, I am dissapoint.

/memes are funtastic


Guess I'll do it:
i.imgur.com
 
2011-01-22 09:40:14 AM
2nd graders in Oakland? I think some of those kids are hitting puberty already.
 
2011-01-22 09:42:54 AM

D_Evans45: moothemagiccow: Anal penetration? Vaginal penetration? Oral penetration? Think hard about the way you'd like to define sex for everyone. Saying "sex is only this" doesnt make a lot of sense


With the vague descriptions people apply to sex even a dutch rudder is sex. Manual stimulation would probably be considered foreplay by most people, but get technical and it's probably considered sex.

When someone says "oh Tom and Barbara had sex" I don't think of some guy rubbing his partner's clit or some girl giving a dude a handy. I think of sexual intercourse, wherein the penis goes in the vagina. And I think a lot of people would agree.

/Makes sense to me
//*shrugs*


Bill Clinton agrees. And he's no nobody !
 
2011-01-22 09:48:22 AM

lisarenee3505: generaltimmy: lisarenee3505: Is anyone really surprised that this happened in Oakland? 10:1 odds that any random person can guess the skin color of both the teacher and the students involved.

if that makes you feel superior

-------------------------------------------------------------

It does, but no less than your comment makes you feel the same. Lets face it, I was simply stating what 90% of folks who read the article were thinking. They don't want to admit it, but they were.


anyway, it is Oakland. the "coloreds only" section of San Francisco".
 
2011-01-22 09:50:12 AM
I admire the lack of ITG's in this thread.

However, I have a 2nd grade daughter, and if this happened in her classroom, the teacher would have a serious problem.

/could not resist
 
2011-01-22 09:52:56 AM
I believe our children are the future; teach them well and let them lead the way.
 
2011-01-22 10:05:05 AM
If these kids are doing sex stuff in second grade--not just playing doctor--chances are good that they are also being sexually abused at home or somewhere else.

Bigdogdaddy: RodneyToady: I'm actually curious what protocol is supposed to be for a second grade teacher who finds two second graders engaged in sexual activity. I mean, do you physically separate them? I can tell you that if I was a teacher, the last thing I'd want is to have any physical contact with an exposed kid.
Say, "ok kids, stop it." Second graders will most likely listen, seriously.


You just take them aside and give them a fearful lecture. They're still young enough to scare. If they're actually doing BJs though, I'd start playing social worker. somebody taught them that.

Of all the possible things you could blame on race, sexual behavior in a 7-year-old is not one of them. Do they have extra black hormones or something, so that they can't control themselves?
 
2011-01-22 10:12:54 AM
I didn't ask my mom what the F-word meant until the 5th grade. Long time ago, I guess. They grow up so fast these days.

www.comedycentral.com
 
2011-01-22 10:37:13 AM
FTFA:

Dr. Stuart Lustig, a child and adolescent psychiatrist at the University of California, San Francisco, said sexual play among children -- though often worrisome to adults -- is not uncommon, even at a very young age.

"They do experiment with each other's bodies," he said. "It's part of normal development."


This guy is a psychiatrist!! This guy needs to see a shrink himself. THIS is one of the biggest things wrong with California and "sexual liberation" thought. Children should not "play" sex!
 
jtr
2011-01-22 11:23:43 AM
Meh, I like my headline better from yesterday.
 
2011-01-22 11:24:13 AM

SleepingGnome: FTFA:

Dr. Stuart Lustig, a child and adolescent psychiatrist at the University of California, San Francisco, said sexual play among children -- though often worrisome to adults -- is not uncommon, even at a very young age.

"They do experiment with each other's bodies," he said. "It's part of normal development."


This guy is a psychiatrist!! This guy needs to see a shrink himself. THIS is one of the biggest things wrong with California and "sexual liberation" thought. Children should not "play" sex!


I don't see the word "should" in his comment, and "normal" in scientific terms means typical.

As for California being sexually liberated, in fact it's one of the few states with an legal age of consent of 18 that has no exceptions for underage partners who are close in age to each other. For example, Iowa is more typical with an age of consent of 16 and close-in-age exceptions for partners age 14 and 15 when the other is less than 4 years older -- in other words most teen sex in Iowa is legal. In California all sex acts involving anyone under 18 are illegal, even between themselves. (This isn't legally relevant to a case involving 2nd graders because under common law children under age 10 are generally not held criminally responsible for anything.)
 
2011-01-22 11:32:51 AM
See I was the weird kid when it came to playing doctor. I didn't want to actually explore bodies. I actually wanted to do lung sound checks and do physical check-ups without removing clothes. My parents always freaked when they heard I was wanting to play doctor then one time they watched and noticed I did nothing of the "bad behavior". I never actually understood what playing doctor meant till I was old enough to know better.

As for this story... well... If I was the teacher and this stuff started happening, I'd call the principal's office, get a witness or a few, then start working on separating and calling parents so I don't get labeled as a pervert or anything.

And as for Dr. Lustig...He's completely right about the "sexual play". It has been shown to be a completely normal part of development. What parents need to do is recognize this and have a stepwise approach to sexuality. My parents taught me in stages starting with that being nude with another person is a way to express very strong feelings for them but it is only for when I am older and with the right person. They added more and more as I got older and in this way I feel I am a very healthy sexual person now because rather than trying to experiment about it, my parents let me know what was going on at a level I could understand as I grew up.
 
2011-01-22 11:34:00 AM
delicious-cake.org
 
2011-01-22 11:36:49 AM
It all started with the phrase by Bill Clinton, "I did NOT have sex with that woman." Monica thought so, I'll bet.

As soon as it was determined that oral sex was not having "sex" this crap started. Is it Sex or is it not sex.

Children everywhere heard about it on the 6 o'clock Newscasts and parents everywhere were having to explain it to their children who had never heard of it before.

Thanks, Bill, for the further moral decline of the USA pin pointed in time by your phrase.
 
2011-01-22 11:56:09 AM
All he got was suspended?
 
2011-01-22 11:57:57 AM

Fuzzyshrimp: It all started with the phrase by Bill Clinton, "I did NOT have sex with that woman." Monica thought so, I'll bet.

As soon as it was determined that oral sex was not having "sex" this crap started. Is it Sex or is it not sex.

Children everywhere heard about it on the 6 o'clock Newscasts and parents everywhere were having to explain it to their children who had never heard of it before.

Thanks, Bill, for the further moral decline of the USA pin pointed in time by your phrase.


Even though that took place what, 6 years before these kids were even born?

0/10

Try again.
 
2011-01-22 12:19:08 PM

SirEattonHogg: Because black 2nd graders are more sexually active than white second graders?


Well, yeah. They're twelve years old.
 
2011-01-22 12:27:03 PM
Flint said preliminary interviews conducted by the school principal led officials to believe there was truth to the story, although he acknowledged that some of the details were vague.

Specifically, preliminary interviews found that one of the children had seen Mrs. Krabapple and Principal Skinner in the closet making babies and they saw one of the babies and it looked at them.
 
2011-01-22 12:39:45 PM
Link (new window)

/obligatory
//yeah, i know it's in the dominican republican and not oakland
 
2011-01-22 12:50:04 PM
When I was 4, I went to a pre-school/daycare type thing where one of the teachers would have me and a couple of the girls go to the back corner of the playground where he taught us to French kiss each other while he took pictures, so I'm getting a kick out of some of these replies.

/Kinda farked up, yeah.
 
2011-01-22 12:50:55 PM

bmfderek: Well, yeah. They're twelve years old.


LOL!
 
2011-01-22 12:52:53 PM
The first thing I thought of was the video from Tosh.0:

Link (new window)
 
2011-01-22 01:00:41 PM

ccsears: Link (new window)

/obligatory
//yeah, i know it's in the dominican republican and not oakland


www.motleycrow.com
 
2011-01-22 01:06:56 PM

D_Evans45: Also, oral is a sexual activity, calling it flat out sex makes you think penetration.

/Could you even get a woody in 2nd grade?

//I don't remember chronic boners til ~5thish when the girls started growing boobs



Yes, At first I tried to push them down. It usually only happened when I peed really hard.

/I love how people are either willfully ignorant or delusional to the point where they forget what they were like many years ago
 
2011-01-22 01:14:23 PM

D_Evans45: moothemagiccow: Anal penetration? Vaginal penetration? Oral penetration? Think hard about the way you'd like to define sex for everyone. Saying "sex is only this" doesnt make a lot of sense


With the vague descriptions people apply to sex even a dutch rudder is sex. Manual stimulation would probably be considered foreplay by most people, but get technical and it's probably considered sex.

When someone says "oh Tom and Barbara had sex" I don't think of some guy rubbing his partner's clit or some girl giving a dude a handy. I think of sexual intercourse, wherein the penis goes in the vagina. And I think a lot of people would agree.

/Makes sense to me
//*shrugs*


www.brokencountry.com

Amen, brother
 
2011-01-22 01:21:51 PM

8InchFloppy: "You leave your child at school because you trust that they're going to be safe," Susana Garcia said Friday

No you idiot, you leave them at school to be educated. I agree that if true this is messed up and they should be safe....but that is not WHY you drop them off.


My thoughts exactly.
 
2011-01-22 01:41:14 PM

aspAddict: When I was 4, I went to a pre-school/daycare type thing where one of the teachers would have me and a couple of the girls go to the back corner of the playground where he taught us to French kiss each other while he took pictures, so I'm getting a kick out of some of these replies.

/Kinda farked up, yeah.


Please tell me this guy is in prison now.
 
2011-01-22 01:49:43 PM
What seems to be the problem here, this is in Oakland Califorinia, you can just about bet they are black and were trained at home. Geez move on folks, they probably have been doing this sinse pre-school................ need to scrap that whole damn state.
 
2011-01-22 01:49:43 PM
In other news, Oakland is adding nurses specializing in geriatrics to their high school staffs.
 
2011-01-22 01:50:20 PM
"Oakland school district officials say the principal received a report Wednesday that two second-graders engaged in oral sex during class while the teacher was present..."


Maybe they were just practicing for their oral exams.
 
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