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(Some Guy)   Subscribing to the "dogs with bees in their mouths" theory of weapons development, the Navy uses a rail gun to launch a fighter plane   (tomsguide.com) divider line 48
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2011-01-21 11:35:34 AM
Well what would you prefer Submitter? A nonexistent laser weapon, or a well-aimed rock?
 
2011-01-21 11:54:16 AM
Revvin' up your engine
Listen to her howlin' roar
Metal under tension
Beggin' you to touch and go
 
2011-01-21 12:02:19 PM
F*ckin' railguns... how do they work?
 
2011-01-21 01:18:10 PM
Now if they can just solve the problem of having to retrieve the pilot's eyeballs from the back of the cockpit, they'll be golden.
 
2011-01-21 02:05:23 PM
That's actually really cool. And they get a shorter takeoff length than with the conventional catapult.
 
2011-01-21 02:56:54 PM
That's not a rail gun. It's a linear electric motor. A rail gun launch would be rather violent and messy.
 
2011-01-21 02:59:26 PM

queezyweezel: That's not a rail gun. It's a linear electric motor. A rail gun launch would be rather violent and messy.



Violent, yes. Messy, No.
images.wikia.com
 
2011-01-21 02:59:55 PM

Lsherm: That's actually really cool. And they get a shorter takeoff length than with the conventional catapult.


Fewer moving parts too, and they take up a lot less space and maintenance work then steam catapults.

I heard somewhere that all new carriers are going to have them.
 
2011-01-21 03:00:30 PM
uggh....that article is full of fail. EMALS and a rail gun are not even close to being the same technology.
 
2011-01-21 03:02:00 PM

queezyweezel: uggh....that article is full of fail. EMALS and a rail gun are not even close to being the same technology.


"Railgun technology" sounds so much more journalistic then "the same shiat that powers the superman ride in six flags LA."
 
2011-01-21 03:02:49 PM
i178.photobucket.com

Still my favorite rail gun. I racked up many a frag with this bad boy.
 
2011-01-21 03:04:18 PM

fluffy2097: queezyweezel: uggh....that article is full of fail. EMALS and a rail gun are not even close to being the same technology.

"Railgun technology" sounds so much more journalistic then "the same shiat that powers the superman ride in six flags LA."


Exactly. "They both use electricity!!! Derp!!!!"
 
2011-01-21 03:06:32 PM

Actual Farking: Well what would you prefer Submitter? A nonexistent laser weapon, or a well-aimed rock?


What movie is that quote from? I seem to recall it, some looking for a new planet movie where they had to build a weapon for their ship fast.
 
2011-01-21 03:11:43 PM

fluffy2097: "Railgun technology" sounds so much more journalistic then "the same shiat that powers the superman ride in six flags LA.


The Six Flags in San Antonio has a ride that uses that tech, it has been broken down for I don't know how many years now.
 
2011-01-21 03:14:44 PM
t2.gstatic.com
 
2011-01-21 03:15:48 PM

bukketmaster: queezyweezel: That's not a rail gun. It's a linear electric motor. A rail gun launch would be rather violent and messy.


Violent, yes. Messy, No.


What if we got a linear electric cannon that could launch rail guns that could launch jets?
 
2011-01-21 03:19:08 PM
That was a big damn' carrier. It had dirt and trees!
 
2011-01-21 03:21:59 PM

Actual Farking: Well what would you prefer Submitter? A nonexistent laser weapon, or a well-aimed rock?


Well aimed rock, aimed from the moon, the size of Manhattan.
 
2011-01-21 03:29:40 PM
Electromagnetical Aviation Launch System

Is that even a word? Why stop there? Why not "electromagneticalisticaticious"?
 
2011-01-21 03:31:05 PM

PonceAlyosha: What if we got a linear electric cannon that could launch rail guns that could launch jets?


Jets with rail guns on them?
 
2011-01-21 03:31:08 PM

Actual Farking: Well what would you prefer Submitter? A nonexistent laser weapon, or a well-aimed rock?


The rock guys are doing pretty well in that there middle east. We could probably do some good propagandizing over there if we saved the money from developing this horseshiat and gave it to the brown versions of glenn beck & sarah palin. Oh wait, they barely have electricity. And they're still kicking our asses.
 
2011-01-21 03:31:27 PM

Jeng: Actual Farking: Well what would you prefer Submitter? A nonexistent laser weapon, or a well-aimed rock?

What movie is that quote from? I seem to recall it, some looking for a new planet movie where they had to build a weapon for their ship fast.


Earth Star Voyager (new window). I loved that movie as a kid.
 
2011-01-21 03:31:35 PM

Slaves2Darkness: Actual Farking: Well what would you prefer Submitter? A nonexistent laser weapon, or a well-aimed rock?

Well aimed rock, aimed from the moon, the size of Manhattan.


TANSTAAFL
 
2011-01-21 03:35:47 PM

moothemagiccow: Derp.


FTFY
 
2011-01-21 03:39:28 PM
Railguns? Like the ones they used in WW2 to fire across the English Channel? Cool. The two guns were named Winnie and Pooh.
 
2011-01-21 03:42:06 PM
Anyone else notice Randy Quaid in the video at 1:10?
 
2011-01-21 03:43:18 PM

Actual Farking: Earth Star Voyager (new window). I loved that movie as a kid.


Thanks, googling that quote only came up with this thread. I thought I was either going a little crazy, or you just happened to say what you did for a completely different reason.
 
2011-01-21 03:52:06 PM

moothemagiccow: Actual Farking: Well what would you prefer Submitter? A nonexistent laser weapon, or a well-aimed rock?

The rock guys are doing pretty well in that there middle east. We could probably do some good propagandizing over there if we saved the money from developing this horseshiat and gave it to the brown versions of glenn beck & sarah palin. Oh wait, they barely have electricity. And they're still kicking our asses.


They don't win fights, they win sympathy.
What guns can do is make sure you never lose the combat portion after you've failed your charisma check. Resolving the deeper political turmoil is a process of negotiation made easier when the enemy cant simply run you out the building.

What electronic weapons can do is make sure you get more bang for your buck. Vessels without powder magazines doing as much damage as a WWII era battleship. Microwaves keeping pirates miles away. Taking down enemy missiles with precision lasers for pennies a shot. Linear motors used to launch aircraft, replacing the dangerous old steam catapults with something that's safer for both the aircraft and ground crew.
The electric Navy is starting to sound pretty awesome.
 
2011-01-21 03:54:30 PM

SacriliciousBeerSwiller: Electromagnetical Aviation Launch System

Is that even a word? Why stop there? Why not "electromagneticalisticaticious"?


My guess is he wrote Electrical, then found out that it stood for Electromagnetic. He must have decided to split the difference just to be safe.


Quasar: F*ckin' railguns... how do they work?


I can tell you this.....they have very little to do with magnets. The EMALS however.....
 
2011-01-21 03:58:35 PM
cant they just point F-16s straight up to launch them with their own engines?........
 
2011-01-21 04:08:51 PM

turtleking: cant they just point F-16s straight up to launch them with their own engines?........


Let's just start with the fact that this is the Navy we are talking about. They don't have F-16s (other than a handful for training).
 
2011-01-21 04:11:46 PM

turtleking: cant they just point F-16s straight up to launch them with their own engines?........


I'm sure if they could, they would, because that would be an awesome way to launch a fighter. Plus they could launch a lot more at once.
 
2011-01-21 04:15:23 PM

turtleking: cant they just point F-16s straight up to launch them with their own engines?........


They could, but the Navy doesn't fly F-16s and the Air Force doesn't launch from carriers.
 
2011-01-21 04:21:29 PM

Jeng: turtleking: cant they just point F-16s straight up to launch them with their own engines?........

I'm sure if they could, they would, because that would be an awesome way to launch a fighter. Plus they could launch a lot more at once.


Can I add that after launching vertically, they would pretty much need to turn around and land to refuel, or find the in-air alternative.
 
2011-01-21 04:40:09 PM

TheTeethoftheTiger: Jeng: turtleking: cant they just point F-16s straight up to launch them with their own engines?........

I'm sure if they could, they would, because that would be an awesome way to launch a fighter. Plus they could launch a lot more at once.

Can I add that after launching vertically, they would pretty much need to turn around and land to refuel, or find the in-air alternative.


Well, that and the fact that the engine produces a thrust ration of over 1:1 for a clean airframe (unladen with coconuts). I doubt that it can still perform that trick while loaded up with ordinance.
 
2011-01-21 04:44:56 PM

way south: They don't win fights, they win sympathy.
What guns can do is make sure you never lose the combat portion after you've failed your charisma check. Resolving the deeper political turmoil is a process of negotiation made easier when the enemy cant simply run you out the building.


The point is we're losing the war and still the money is going to Lockheed and other businesses who've realized that the government is packed with dopes with big wallets. You're forgetting that when this country was started, we were the guys with the shiatty weapons.

What electronic weapons can do is make sure you get more bang for your buck. Vessels without powder magazines doing as much damage as a WWII era battleship. Microwaves keeping pirates miles away. Taking down enemy missiles with precision lasers for pennies a shot. Linear motors used to launch aircraft, replacing the dangerous old steam catapults with something that's safer for both the aircraft and ground crew.
The electric Navy is starting to sound pretty awesome.


What electronic weapons can do is win wars against Britain and Israel. This is what's wrong with America: we go to war because the government thinks it's a good idea and it just bought all this "cool" shiat. The military gets treated like a shiny new sports car, but no one with any sense takes their Ferrari into the ghetto.
 
2011-01-21 04:45:52 PM
 
2011-01-21 04:50:23 PM

moothemagiccow: What electronic weapons can do is win wars against Britain and Israel. This is what's wrong with America: we go to war because the government thinks it's a good idea and it just bought all this "cool" shiat. The military gets treated like a shiny new sports car, but no one with any sense takes their Ferrari into the ghetto.


what did we buy previous to the current two wars that was so cool we started a war over it?

electronic naval weapons serve the necessary purpose of ensuring dominance over regional powers, allowing us to protect our interests. I don't see them being necessary used in wars, but occasional proxy skirmishes over interests, sure.
 
2011-01-21 05:10:47 PM

way south: moothemagiccow: Actual Farking: Well what would you prefer Submitter? A nonexistent laser weapon, or a well-aimed rock?

The rock guys are doing pretty well in that there middle east. We could probably do some good propagandizing over there if we saved the money from developing this horseshiat and gave it to the brown versions of glenn beck & sarah palin. Oh wait, they barely have electricity. And they're still kicking our asses.

They don't win fights, they win sympathy.
What guns can do is make sure you never lose the combat portion after you've failed your charisma check. Resolving the deeper political turmoil is a process of negotiation made easier when the enemy cant simply run you out the building.

What electronic weapons can do is make sure you get more bang for your buck. Vessels without powder magazines doing as much damage as a WWII era battleship. Microwaves keeping pirates miles away. Taking down enemy missiles with precision lasers for pennies a shot. Linear motors used to launch aircraft, replacing the dangerous old steam catapults with something that's safer for both the aircraft and ground crew.
The electric Navy is starting to sound pretty awesome.



Not only that, moothemagiccow apparently hasn't updated his talking points in a couple years. Iraq is doing much better and looks like we'll be able to pull out as promised if they really want us to and Afghanistan is not without it's troubles but is by no means a lost cause.
 
2011-01-21 05:29:26 PM

moothemagiccow: The point is we're losing the war and still the money is going to Lockheed and other businesses who've realized that the government is packed with dopes with big wallets. You're forgetting that when this country was started, we were the guys with the shiatty weapons.


That caused quite a few problems for us, if I recall. The revolution looked like a lost cause at first and We didn't see the war turn around until the French started giving us better guns and training.

Moral of the story: You don't want to be the guy with the crappy guns. It makes everything else harder.
 
2011-01-21 05:30:15 PM

Jeng: Actual Farking: Well what would you prefer Submitter? A nonexistent laser weapon, or a well-aimed rock?

What movie is that quote from? I seem to recall it, some looking for a new planet movie where they had to build a weapon for their ship fast.


You can destroy pretty much anything by hitting it with a rock. You just need a rock of sufficient size and be able to throw it sufficiently fast. Anything traveling at 3 km/s will release the same amount of energy upon impact as an equivalent mass of TNT.
 
2011-01-21 05:31:25 PM
Came to biatch about the difference between a railgun and a gauss rifle, found half a dozen others had already covered that.

/thumbs up to you all
 
2011-01-21 06:32:30 PM
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/America_class_amphibious_assault_ship

I think we are trying to get more bang for our buck with the america class small carrier.
 
2011-01-21 06:38:31 PM

turtleking: cant they just point F-16s straight up to launch them with their own engines?........


Slight issue of maintaining stability and control between liftoff, and whenever it gets going fast enough for the control surfaces to work.
 
2011-01-21 06:51:04 PM

PonceAlyosha: bukketmaster: queezyweezel: That's not a rail gun. It's a linear electric motor. A rail gun launch would be rather violent and messy.


Violent, yes. Messy, No.

What if we got a linear electric cannon that could launch rail guns that could launch jets?


Approves:
2.bp.blogspot.com
 
2011-01-21 07:00:24 PM

EddyKilowatt: turtleking: cant they just point F-16s straight up to launch them with their own engines?........

Slight issue of maintaining stability and control between liftoff, and whenever it gets going fast enough for the control surfaces to work.


Yeah, plus having all the power at the rear, and without some kind of stabilizing structure, and an unbalanced frame...it'd probably just flop over and impressively fly straight into the ocean.

The US had an experimental prop-driven plane back in the day that could take off like this (props up front). The main problem was landing it...

This freaky little thing:
www.diseno-art.com
/hawt
 
2011-01-21 11:22:30 PM

Jeng: fluffy2097: "Railgun technology" sounds so much more journalistic then "the same shiat that powers the superman ride in six flags LA.

The Six Flags in San Antonio has a ride that uses that tech, it has been broken down for I don't know how many years now.


I love the fact that roller coaster technology can be used on aircraft carriers. Just you know...on a massively ramped up scale.

The fastest roller coaster in the world goes from 0-149mph in 4 seconds. This does 0-240mph in roughly the same time. Highway to the danger zone, indeed.
 
2011-01-22 10:54:24 AM
"Or what? You'll release the dogs? Or the bees? Or the dogs with bees in their mouth and when they bark they shoot bees at you?"

In case anybody asks
 
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