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WTFDYW		2011-01-20 01:06:34 PM

That's a decent start.

Barbigazi		2011-01-20 01:08:56 PM

The republican plan is to destroy the federal government. Don't act surprised.

HawgWild		2011-01-20 01:10:59 PM

Is this Republican math or CBO math?

IgG4		2011-01-20 01:14:26 PM

When did we start carrying all budget matters out 10 years? It makes the number seem absolutely insane. Seriously though, you want to save 250 billion dollars a year? How about we reduce military spending from $680 billion to $430 billion, that shiat is seriously out of control.

HawgWild		2011-01-20 01:16:59 PM

IgG4: When did we start carrying all budget matters out 10 years? It makes the number seem absolutely insane. Seriously though, you want to save 250 billion dollars a year? How about we reduce military spending from $680 billion to $430 billion, that shiat is seriously out of control.

Why do you want America to be conquered by her enemies?

Barbigazi		2011-01-20 01:20:05 PM

IgG4: When did we start carrying all budget matters out 10 years? It makes the number seem absolutely insane. Seriously though, you want to save 250 billion dollars a year? How about we reduce military spending from $680 billion to $430 billion, that shiat is seriously out of control.

I'm 96,000 in debt because I have to pay rent every month.

arkansas		2011-01-20 01:24:01 PM

Barbigazi: The republican plan is to destroy the federal government. Don't act surprised.

If that were the goal they would just back off and let the Democrats have their way for a few years.

Barbigazi		2011-01-20 01:29:26 PM

arkansas: Barbigazi: The republican plan is to destroy the federal government. Don't act surprised.

If that were the goal they would just back off and let the Democrats have their way for a few years.

ZING!

Dusk-You-n-Me		2011-01-20 01:37:10 PM

We shouldn't be cutting infrastructure and energy R&D spending, we should be tripling it and tripling it again.

Barbigazi		2011-01-20 01:41:08 PM

Dusk-You-n-Me: We shouldn't be cutting infrastructure and energy R&D spending, we should be tripling it and tripling it again.

I believe the argument is that researching alternative energy makes gasoline more expensive and less available.

Rev.K		2011-01-20 01:41:23 PM

*clicks link*

*CTRL-F "Iraq"*

NO MATCHES FOUND.

/I'm getting a lot of mileage out of this

Dusk-You-n-Me		2011-01-20 01:51:03 PM

Barbigazi: I believe the argument is that researching alternative energy makes gasoline more expensive and less available.

I don't think I've heard that. I just try and imagine us as a country not reliant on petroleum, with reliable and efficient public transportation. Imagine the money we'd save. China got over 25% of its electricity from clean energy in 2010. We have the only political party in the world that rejects climate change. We're getting left behind on many many fronts.

Nabb1		2011-01-20 01:55:55 PM

Rev.K: *clicks link*

*CTRL-F "Iraq"*

NO MATCHES FOUND.

/I'm getting a lot of mileage out of this

Isn't funding for both Iraq and Afghanistan kept separate from "the budget"? I thought I remembered that being discussed at the height of the Iraq war. They just put it in "emergency spending" bills or something and it stays off of the "budget."

coinspinner		2011-01-20 01:58:03 PM

Dusk-You-n-Me: We have the only political party in the world that rejects climate change.

Do you have a citation for that? I'd like to be able to back that up when I use it one day.

Bloody William		2011-01-20 01:59:25 PM

Nabb1: Rev.K: *clicks link*

*CTRL-F "Iraq"*

NO MATCHES FOUND.

/I'm getting a lot of mileage out of this

Isn't funding for both Iraq and Afghanistan kept separate from "the budget"? I thought I remembered that being discussed at the height of the Iraq war. They just put it in "emergency spending" bills or something and it stays off of the "budget."

It was during the Bush administrtion, but it's part of the actual budget under Obama. That's part of the "MASSIVE DEFICIIT!!!!!" he's blamed for. Actually counting the wars in which we're engaged.

Dusk-You-n-Me		2011-01-20 02:03:32 PM

coinspinner: Do you have a citation for that? I'd like to be able to back that up when I use it one day.

"While some political parties in the world may have pockets of 'skepticism,' no party is outright refusing to accept or address the issue like the US Republican party, the article reports."

Link (new window)

To be fair, the article is asking the question, not necessarily proving without a doubt. The link for the report they reference is broken as well. They do make the point that "Conservative leaders even in Great Britain are light years ahead of poorly informed conservatives in the US."

So while I don't think we can say definitively this is true, we can say the GOP is the most vocal and unabashed in their denial of climate change, and is recognized around the world as being as such.

coinspinner		2011-01-20 02:04:41 PM

Rev.K: *clicks link*

*CTRL-F "Iraq"*

NO MATCHES FOUND.

/I'm getting a lot of mileage out of this

I'd like to see something like:

End construction of Zumwalt-class destroyers: $10 billion saved

Rather than, National Endowment for the Arts. $167.5 million annual savings.

But destroyers are cool and are all like BLAMBLAMwhoosh, and trumpets are loud, and art kids are gay.

Code_Archeologist		2011-01-20 02:13:58 PM

A couple things to be aware of that they are cutting.

Legal Services Corporation: a non-profit government mandated service that gives access to civil legal services so that poor people who usually cannot afford to defend their rights in court can have legal representation.

Economic Development Administration: provides development assistance to economically depressed communities. It is because of this program that cities like Pittsburgh and Detroit did not turn into ghost towns, because they help small business in communities like this create sustainable jobs.

Davis-Bacon Act: requires that public works employees be paid fair wages.

Most of these programs are small safety net programs, fair wage programs, or even economic development programs.

John Paul Jones		2011-01-20 02:20:25 PM

Code_Archeologist: Most of these programs are small safety net programs, fair wage programs, or even economic development programs.

Well, at least they're consistent with their Plan to Destroy America.

Dinki		2011-01-20 02:21:37 PM

Code_Archeologist: Most of these programs are small safety net programs, fair wage programs, or even economic development programs.

In other words, programs that help people. How unsurprising.

kieran57		2011-01-20 02:26:01 PM

"...the "Spending Reduction Act of 2011" proposed by members of the conservative Republican Study Committee, chaired by Ohio Rep. Jim Jordan, would reduce current spending for non-defense, non-homeland security and non-veterans programs to 2008 levels..."

And we're done.

Code_Archeologist		2011-01-20 02:30:07 PM

kieran57: "...the "Spending Reduction Act of 2011" proposed by members of the conservative Republican Study Committee, chaired by Ohio Rep. Jim Jordan, would reduce current spending for non-defense, non-homeland security and non-veterans programs to 2008 levels..."

And we're done.

In other words, they are not actually serious about making cuts to the budget. They just want to make a big show of it.

dogdaze		2011-01-20 02:31:07 PM

Unless the cuts include defense, they're bullshiat.

Captain Steroid		2011-01-20 02:43:53 PM

Well, congratu-f**king-lations to everyone of you morons who voted in these c*ckbites in the House of Representatives. You wanted limited government? Well, if the a**holes have their way, we'll have NO government.

Welcome to Somalia, tw*twarts!

Barbigazi		2011-01-20 02:51:26 PM

Dusk-You-n-Me: Barbigazi: I believe the argument is that researching alternative energy makes gasoline more expensive and less available.

I don't think I've heard that. I just try and imagine us as a country not reliant on petroleum, with reliable and efficient public transportation. Imagine the money we'd save. China got over 25% of its electricity from clean energy in 2010. We have the only political party in the world that rejects climate change. We're getting left behind on many many fronts.

Citations!

www.cagle.com

I don't pretend to follow the logic, I'm just showing you what they're thinking.

make me some tea		2011-01-20 02:53:19 PM

Barbigazi: Dusk-You-n-Me: Barbigazi: I believe the argument is that researching alternative energy makes gasoline more expensive and less available.

I don't think I've heard that. I just try and imagine us as a country not reliant on petroleum, with reliable and efficient public transportation. Imagine the money we'd save. China got over 25% of its electricity from clean energy in 2010. We have the only political party in the world that rejects climate change. We're getting left behind on many many fronts.

Citations!

www.cagle.com

www.cagle.com

Those cartoons don't make any damn sense. They're trying to equate the stimulus with petroleum prices? What?

Sudo_Make_Me_A_Sandwich		2011-01-20 02:55:40 PM

Captain Steroid: Welcome to Somalia, tw*twarts!

Which, incidentally, is #3 on the list of places Republicans want to invade at a cost of between $100-200 billion a year.

/#1 and #2 are Iran and Yemen, respectively

make me some tea		2011-01-20 02:55:40 PM

Code_Archeologist: Davis-Bacon Act: requires that public works employees be paid fair wages.

Yeah, I had to look that one up, but I guess they'd rather our roads and bridges be built and maintained by illegal immigrant slaves being paid minimum wage?

BigTuna		2011-01-20 02:59:22 PM

It seems, I dare say, disingenuous for the Party of Business to suddenly be unable to distinguish between expenditures and investments. Weaning us from middle eastern petroleum is an b>investment in our security and should be embraced by the right for that reason, rather than swiftly rejected as some kind of absurd giveaway to environmental groups and/or a win for Democrats. GOP scorched earth policy is doing us far more tangible harm than the supposed Sharia Paradise that Obama is pursuing.

make me some tea		2011-01-20 03:00:52 PM

Sudo_Make_Me_A_Sandwich: Captain Steroid: Welcome to Somalia, tw*twarts!

Which, incidentally, is #3 on the list of places Republicans want to invade at a cost of between $100-200 billion a year.

/#1 and #2 are Iran and Yemen, respectively

Here's an idea. Pull all of our military forces out of the Middle East, and we'll BOTH save trillions of dollars AND get us off the terrorist's shiat list. It's win-win!

make me some tea		2011-01-20 03:03:00 PM

BigTuna: It seems, I dare say, disingenuous for the Party of Business to suddenly be unable to distinguish between expenditures and investments. Weaning us from middle eastern petroleum is an b>investment in our security and should be embraced by the right for that reason, rather than swiftly rejected as some kind of absurd giveaway to environmental groups and/or a win for Democrats. GOP scorched earth policy is doing us far more tangible harm than the supposed Sharia Paradise that Obama is pursuing.

In their minds, government investments are waste. Somehow. (?)

Dinki		2011-01-20 03:13:50 PM

make me some tea: In their minds, government investments are waste. Somehow. (?)

Because only private market business investments are real and worthwhile. Government investments are like dropping water on a hot sidewalk- it just evaporates, without anything to show for it. Government money is magic- it disappears!

FireBreathingLiberal		2011-01-20 03:17:05 PM

The Job-Killing, Economy Tanking, Infrastructure Crumbling, Douche Bagging Act of 2011?

OneTimed		2011-01-20 03:17:06 PM

As if we needed any more proof that the Republicans are a bunch of moron.

TofuTheAlmighty		2011-01-20 03:19:00 PM

Code_Archeologist: Most of these programs ~~are small safety net programs, fair wage programs, or even economic development programs~~ benefit non-rich people.

Therefore they must be destroyed.

Lost Thought 00		2011-01-20 03:19:45 PM

IgG4: When did we start carrying all budget matters out 10 years? It makes the number seem absolutely insane.

It's done to provide more of an average, so that you don't predict a huge cost increase that would be offset in later years (though they just design the bills so the offset happens beyond the 10-year window), and to help amortize large 1-time costs.

lexslamman		2011-01-20 03:20:20 PM

So they want to cut infrastructure spending and Amtrak at a time when gas prices are on the rise and our roads are more congested than ever. That's just great. Maybe they can set a bomb off in Penn Station while they are at it?

unit63		2011-01-20 03:20:51 PM

When, oh when will these teabagging rednecks realize that the inner-city poor, out from under whom they seem to want to pull the last shreds of support, are just as well-armed as they are, if not moreso?

stutte2		2011-01-20 03:21:44 PM

No cut in defense??? Ugh.

WTFDYW		2011-01-20 03:21:45 PM

3_Butt_Cheeks		2011-01-20 03:21:59 PM

WTFDYW: That's a decent start.

Yup...I'd throw in at least 5-8% off the defense budget as well. Cuts are absolutely necessary. Both sides can agree with that.

Bag of Hammers		2011-01-20 03:22:37 PM

checks link:

Defense Spending: no
Farm Subsidies: no (except for mohair, WTF?)

Fail.

Philip Francis Queeg		2011-01-20 03:23:39 PM

Eliminate death gratuity for Members of Congress.

We tip Congressmen for dying?

atomsmoosher		2011-01-20 03:24:14 PM

amazing_live_seamonkeys		2011-01-20 03:24:38 PM

How about, "NO."

atomsmoosher		2011-01-20 03:24:52 PM

Dusk-You-n-Me: We shouldn't be cutting infrastructure and energy R&D spending, we should be tripling it and tripling it again.

^This, BTW.

ObamaTheOmnipotent		2011-01-20 03:25:07 PM

2.5 trillion in tax cuts.......Its time to PARTYYYYYYYY

/its only a matter of time before the CBO's calculators melt and smolder from trying to crunch the repubs BS numbers.

Thray		2011-01-20 03:25:12 PM

Hey look, it's Dick Armey's list minus cutting farm subsidies and not even mentioning defense spending. What. A. Surprise.

Dalrint		2011-01-20 03:25:34 PM

Wow. All that and they don't touch the elephant in the room that is our bloated military.

Well, I'm shocked.

/Just shocked!

make me some tea		2011-01-20 03:25:43 PM

Dinki: Government investments are like dropping water on a hot sidewalk- it just evaporates, without anything to show for it. Government money is magic- it disappears!

Yeah. That's exactly the nonsense I'm referring to. They take it as gospel that just because it's the government label on it, it must by definition be a vortex of money.

Oh hey! Look what I found. Link (new window)

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