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2011-01-18 09:55:06 PM  
Watched Cop Out this weekend. It was interesting to see a director try to make a comedy without jokes, gags, or anything that could be mistaken for humor.

Pro Tip, Kev. Just because Tracy Morgan's insane schtick works for 10 minutes in a sitcom, doesn't mean it'll work for a 90 minute movie.
 
2011-01-18 09:58:33 PM  
SMITH: [on why he took a lower salary to make Cop Out than he did for Dogma] - His movies are tanking so he took what he could get.
 
2011-01-18 10:01:40 PM  
Funny, I would have put the money of the consistantly-insane Tracy Morgan being the problem on that set.

/learn something new every day.
 
2011-01-18 10:06:42 PM  
Always remember folks, it's never Kevin Smiths fault when his movie sucks.
 
2011-01-18 10:10:11 PM  

stoli n coke: Pro Tip, Kev. Just because Tracy Morgan's insane schtick works for 10 minutes in a sitcom, doesn't mean it'll work for a 90 minute movie.


Pretty sure that's just Tracy Morgan being Tracy Morgan.
 
2011-01-18 10:10:14 PM  

Flappyhead: Always remember folks, it's never Kevin Smiths fault when his movie sucks.


If Willis was such a jerk, wouldn't Smith have known that from doing Die Hard 4 with him?

Yea, I love when Smith blames everyone else for his crap movies.
 
2011-01-18 10:12:04 PM  
Kevin Smith thinks Tracy Morgan is funny. Man, that's just depressing.
 
2011-01-18 10:13:01 PM  

clovis69:
If Willis was such a jerk, wouldn't Smith have known that from doing Die Hard 4 with him?



That was my first thought as well. Hell didn't the two of them start talking about "Cop Out" when they were filming DH4?
 
2011-01-18 10:13:31 PM  
From TFA: here I am, stirring up controversy

Let's not get overexcited and blow this out of proportion, there, my good little muckraker.

Anyway, once you're got Bruce Willis starring with Tracy Morgan, forget it. It's in the can. That's like casting Steven Seagal with Mickey Rooney. You're not going anywhere with that combo.
 
2011-01-18 10:31:02 PM  
I saw Cop Out a couple of weeks ago. I watch about 3/4 of the movie then had to turn it off. I don't care how it ended.
 
2011-01-18 10:31:08 PM  
I've never understood the hate for Morgan, dude is funny as shiat.
 
2011-01-18 10:31:52 PM  
Maybe Bruce Willis just knows a turd when he sees it floating in the toilet.
 
2011-01-18 10:33:16 PM  
Yeah, as funny as shiat that the previous user of the stall forgot to flush.
 
2011-01-18 10:34:12 PM  
He sounds fat.
 
2011-01-18 10:34:37 PM  
Kevin Smith is an unfunny 'comedian' who has been milking a character with no lines and a few mediocre pothead movies since the 90s.

Bruce Willis is one of the greatest action stars of all time (though he has had some shiat movies lately).

Shut the fark up Kevin. Kthxbye.
 
2011-01-18 10:37:13 PM  

RandomAxe: That's like casting Steven Seagal with Mickey Rooney. You're not going anywhere with that combo.


Failed Yodas sounds like that would be the movie title starring those two.

Also, Willis' dick does lack passion. It was pretty limp in Color of Night.

/do remember that on the Skinamax back in the day
 
2011-01-18 10:40:46 PM  

Doktor_Zhivago: Kevin Smith is an unfunny 'comedian' who has been milking a character with no lines and a few mediocre pothead movies since the 90s.

Bruce Willis is one of the greatest action stars of all time (though he has had some shiat movies lately).

Shut the fark up Kevin. Kthxbye.


This.
 
2011-01-18 10:42:23 PM  

Practical_Draconian: It was pretty limp in Color of Night.


I'm pretty sure the MPAA requires that. Always thought that was unfair to the actors going Full Monty.
 
2011-01-18 10:42:25 PM  
Since Kevin Smith is already one of the biggest coont-farts in the "show business" I'm gonna have take this with a grain of salt.
 
2011-01-18 10:47:08 PM  
zunkus: I've never understood the hate for Morgan, dude is funny as shiat.

precisely.
 
2011-01-18 10:47:21 PM  

Practical_Draconian: RandomAxe: That's like casting Steven Seagal with Mickey Rooney. You're not going anywhere with that combo.

Failed Yodas sounds like that would be the movie title starring those two.

Also, Willis' dick does lack passion. It was pretty limp in Color of Night.

/do remember that on the Skinamax back in the day


You weren't supposed to LOOK, you sicko!
 
2011-01-18 10:51:12 PM  
I thought everyone knew Willis was a pain in the ass. He did say recently he only wanted to do movies that had a good looking woman in them.

Why all the hate on Smith I knew all the cool kids (well the AICN folks) had their hate on. I just don't understand it. His podcasts are really good, I do enjoy his Q&As, I'm not a huge fan of some of his movies but he makes money.
 
2011-01-18 10:51:33 PM  
Tracy Morgan . . . works for some people and not for others. I have nothing against him, and his character is necessary to 30 Rock and works well, but I often go four or five shows without laughing at anything he does or says. Long enough that I'm surprised when I do laugh at him.

That show is as brilliant as people say. It's as groundbreaking as Seinfeld. It's invented entire new roles for a sitcom, such as the Bugshiat Nuts Straight Man.
 
2011-01-18 10:53:00 PM  

Maynotlast: Since Kevin Smith is already one of the biggest coont-farts in the "show business" I'm gonna have take this with a grain of salt.


Sure, Smith is a loudmouth attention whore who makes asinine fart and dick joke movies... but that doesn't mean he's wrong. And just because Bruce Willis is "one of the greatest action stars of all time", according to at least one respected movie critic, er... I mean Fark member, doesn't mean that he wasn't a prick during production. Say what you will about Smith, but at least he has a solid reputation for being an honest person... even brutally so, at times.
 
2011-01-18 10:53:37 PM  
Bruce was probably angry for working for a talentless ass
 
2011-01-18 10:59:18 PM  

Flappyhead: clovis69:
If Willis was such a jerk, wouldn't Smith have known that from doing Die Hard 4 with him?

That was my first thought as well. Hell didn't the two of them start talking about "Cop Out" when they were filming DH4?


Kevin Smith was an actor in Live Free or Die Hard - he didn't have to deal with Bruce's giant ego every day as director on that film. On Live Free or Die Hard he was free to happily geek out because "Wow, I'm working with Bruce Willis!" - after all, all Kevin had to do was film a couple scenes as Motormouth Hacker. Getting the experience of Bruce yelling "this is all crap, throw these pages out, I won't say these lines" was what Smith had making Cop Out, something that obviously wouldn't have occurred when he was filming a cameo role in the latest Die Hard. Whoever directed the PG-13 Die Hard got that one, I'm sure.
 
2011-01-18 10:59:47 PM  

Flappyhead: clovis69:
If Willis was such a jerk, wouldn't Smith have known that from doing Die Hard 4 with him?

That was my first thought as well. Hell didn't the two of them start talking about "Cop Out" when they were filming DH4?


IIRC, they actually didn't spend much time together on that set, mostly because Kevin's part was small and he wasn't there for long. He mentioned in one of his books that Willis was pretty focussed and he didn't want to get in his way. Then, months later, Willis somewhat randomly calls Smith up and tells him he thinks they should work together on something. Hence, Cop Out.

At least, I think that's how it went down - according to KS, anyway.

/haven't seen the film in question
 
2011-01-18 11:03:03 PM  
Frankly, I'm amazed so many people saw Die Hard 4.

I like Willis, all in all, and I like Smith, although not usually for the same movies other people do, but so they don't get along. Big farking deal.
 
2011-01-18 11:08:12 PM  
NEWS FLASH! Kevin Smith talks shiat on Bruce Willis the same way he did on the DVD he had out come out a few months ago!

/Cue "Old News is Exciting" guy.
 
2011-01-18 11:09:19 PM  
Kevin Smith is a poor man's Jon Favreau. Favreau is a better actor, director, writer, industry commentator, and even a better stoner(Gutter!). Must be sad to be in someone's shadow like that
 
2011-01-18 11:10:46 PM  
Hate on Kevin Smith as much as you like, but he's a good storyteller. His 20 minute story about trying to make Superman, played 6 times back to back, is better than most movies.
 
2011-01-18 11:13:10 PM  

Rafe: Flappyhead: clovis69:
If Willis was such a jerk, wouldn't Smith have known that from doing Die Hard 4 with him?

That was my first thought as well. Hell didn't the two of them start talking about "Cop Out" when they were filming DH4?

IIRC, they actually didn't spend much time together on that set, mostly because Kevin's part was small and he wasn't there for long. He mentioned in one of his books that Willis was pretty focussed and he didn't want to get in his way. Then, months later, Willis somewhat randomly calls Smith up and tells him he thinks they should work together on something. Hence, Cop Out.

At least, I think that's how it went down - according to KS, anyway.

/haven't seen the film in question


That's how I recall it going down. Kevin Smith was superexcited about the whole thing.
 
2011-01-18 11:13:24 PM  
First of all, I'm a fan of both Smith and Willis. But in one of his stand up comedy/question and answer/stick it to the man rants, he totally geeked out on Willis and jizzed himself on stage at the thought of working with him, which is why I was surprised at his completely turning on Willis publicly.

I admit that I haven't seen the movie but whoever thought that it was a good idea for Kevin Smith to direct an action movie, with Bruce Willis no less, should have just skipped the head examination and just get sent straight to the loony bin.

I love you, Kev. You've made 6 hilarious movies. But biting off more than you can chew, well, insert your own joke there.
 
2011-01-18 11:14:06 PM  
I'm not surprised at this. I remember watching cop out and wondering what was up with BW. there are scenes when they are in the car with stifler and BW is just staring straight ahead like he's not even in the scene with the other two. who knows what was really going on.
 
2011-01-18 11:15:27 PM  

Mugato: I admit that I haven't seen the movie but whoever thought that it was a good idea for Kevin Smith to direct an action movie, with Bruce Willis no less, should have just skipped the head examination and just get sent straight to the loony bin.

I love you, Kev. You've made 6 hilarious movies. But biting off more than you can chew, well, insert your own joke there.


I have no doubts Cop Out was terrible, but I think it was an interesting thing to try and do. Smith wanted to branch out and direct an action movie, and one he didn't write. He tried, it didn't work, and we all move on. I don't begrudge him the attempt.
 
2011-01-18 11:19:15 PM  
I will always love Smith for what he accomplished independently back in the 90's, after reading the Green Hornet comic book and this film; eh..not so much anymore.

/Will always have framed Clerks poster in the rec room
 
2011-01-18 11:19:16 PM  

Mugato: First of all, I'm a fan of both Smith and Willis. But in one of his stand up comedy/question and answer/stick it to the man rants, he totally geeked out on Willis and jizzed himself on stage at the thought of working with him, which is why I was surprised at his completely turning on Willis publicly.


Yeah, I remember him telling a story in one of his DVDs in which the studio didn't want to accept scenes that Kevin Smith had done a polish on during the Live Free or Die Hard shoot, and Bruce called up whatever executive was in charge of oversight and once the guy explained it to him, Willis took a second and asked, "Who's your second choice to play John McClane?" The executive didn't say anything, Bruce said "Yeah, I thought so," and hung up on him.

Now, I'm sure that's thrilling for a fanboy like Kevin, and at the time he told that story with glee, but he apparently learned while shooting Cop Out that Bruce doesn't listen to anybody while making movies. Bruce wasn't being a good pal and sticking up for Kevin, he was just acting like a douchebag as he always does (allegedly). Going "tee hee hee" next to the guy is different than being the guy in charge, and Kevin got burned when he took the latter role.
 
2011-01-18 11:22:55 PM  
Going "tee hee hee" next to the guy is different than being the guy in charge, and Kevin got burned when he took the latter role

Welcome to the party pal!
 
2011-01-18 11:23:24 PM  

Flappyhead: Always remember folks, it's never Kevin Smiths fault when his movie sucks.


"Perhaps there's something wrong with you!"

images.wikia.com
 
2011-01-18 11:36:45 PM  
Uh huh. Get over it, Kevin.

The script sucked. Your directing sucked. And Willis knew it.

If Bruce Willis was that much of a dick, they wouldn't keep employing him. Except that, even though he's not always a barrel of sunshine, he's a professional. So they employ him, and usually the studios get a nice chunk of change.

Kevin Smith films, on the other hand, are ALWAYS a crapshoot. In my opinion, he phoned it in for Cop Out--probably because it wasn't his project, and he was just OMG! working for someone else.

Hopefully Red State will be better.
 
2011-01-18 11:38:43 PM  

Flappyhead: Always remember folks, it's never Kevin Smiths fault when his movie sucks.


Ya know...I gotta address this.

Seems to me we had a link here six(?) months ago with a clip of Smith talking about how Willis called him up and said he really like Smith and that the two of them had to do a movie together.

All well and good but maybe, just maybe Willis showed up to do a GOOD movie and Smith showed up with 'Cop Out' and/or turned in a crappy script or poorly directed a decent script.

If Smith is a half as smart as he seems to be he's got to be having some major-league soul searching as why he keeps making shiatty movies.

But then maybe not.

Saw Willis in 'RED' today - it was pretty good/funny and Mary-Louise Parker is one hot tamale!
 
2011-01-18 11:43:32 PM  
Have a friend that drives limo and gets to drive a bunch of celebs when they come down for sundance. The only customer, celebrity or not, I've heard her biatch about was Bruce Willis. Action movie man freaked out and made her drive under 10 down the canyon while it was lightly snowing and you could still see grass in places.
 
2011-01-18 11:44:49 PM  

Mugato: I love you, Kev. You've made 6 hilarious movies.


Name them.
 
2011-01-18 11:46:41 PM  

Slothfart: Mugato: I love you, Kev. You've made 6 hilarious movies.

Name them.


Clerks
Dogma
Chasing Amy
Zack and Miri

Four isn't so bad.
 
2011-01-19 12:00:53 AM  
Think it's really amusing to see all this Smith hate being tossed around when quotes from his movies have become Fark cliches.
 
2011-01-19 12:06:56 AM  

Slothfart: Mugato: I love you, Kev. You've made 6 hilarious movies.

Name them.


Clerks
Mallrats
Chasing Amy
Dogma
Jay & Silent Bob Strike Back
Clerks 2

Proceed with the flaming.
 
2011-01-19 12:07:10 AM  

zunkus: I've never understood the hate for Morgan, dude is funny as shiat.


he's not actually retarded
is that the joke?
 
2011-01-19 12:09:48 AM  
I'm almost embarrassed by how much I'm looking forward to the Kevin Smith WTF podcast.

I can't hang with the smodcast, but Maron is a pretty great interviewer.
 
2011-01-19 12:13:07 AM  

sexy-fetus: Have a friend that drives limo and gets to drive a bunch of celebs when they come down for sundance. The only customer, celebrity or not, I've heard her biatch about was Bruce Willis. Action movie man freaked out and made her drive under 10 down the canyon while it was lightly snowing and you could still see grass in places.


I recall reading about Willis bringing a gun to the San Diego Comic Con and freaking out when anyone got too close to him.

The guy's got some issues it seems.
 
2011-01-19 12:13:09 AM  

Gangway Fathead: I'm almost embarrassed by how much I'm looking forward to the Kevin Smith WTF podcast.

I can't hang with the smodcast, but Maron is a pretty great interviewer.


I have a hard time getting into comedy podcasts other than Never Not Funny; they all seem to interview-y and with too much schtick. The only ones I listen to other than NNF are The Nerdist and WTF. Both very good.
 
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