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(Some Guy)   It's 2am and you hear a woman screaming for help. Do you c) ignore it and find her corpse in your yard the next morning   (thechronicleherald.ca) divider line 114
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2011-01-18 03:38:18 PM
upload.wikimedia.org

/a lot has changed in 50 years
 
2011-01-18 04:12:47 PM

calbert: /a lot has changed in 50 years


Yawn. You DO know that the whole hysteria about that was all caca?

And a random scream at 2am? ZOMG!111! better call the cops!!!
 
2011-01-18 04:18:30 PM
Obviously "C". It's much easier to move her when she's frozen solid.
 
2011-01-18 04:18:55 PM

calbert: upload.wikimedia.org


Came for Kitty. Will leave at some point, mostly satisfied.

dj_bigbird: Yawn. You DO know that the whole hysteria about that was all caca?


Explain, please.
 
2011-01-18 04:19:59 PM
One reason kids bother me is that they're always screaming in the neighborhood when they play, and I can never tell if it's an "oh no I was tagged, now I'm it" scream and a "please don't kidnap me" scream.
 
2011-01-18 04:21:01 PM

Diogenes: Obviously "C". It's much easier to move her when she's frozen solid.


It's also less messy to cut up a frozen body...provided, of course, your cutting implements are extremely sharp.

Got dull knives and saws? A warm body might be the better option.
 
2011-01-18 04:22:48 PM

Quasar: One reason kids bother me is that they're always screaming in the neighborhood when they play, and I can never tell if it's an "oh no I was tagged, now I'm it" scream and a "please don't kidnap me" scream.


Are they fighting you back? Then I'd say the latter.
 
2011-01-18 04:31:16 PM

eraser8: Explain, please.


It turns out she wasn't actually killed. She was whisked away to a nursing home in Texas where she lived out her later years with Elvis and JFK.
 
2011-01-18 04:48:40 PM
He urged people to call police immediately if they hear someone screaming for help.

Really?!? You need to tell people this?

I know not to get involved when stuff like this happens, and I'd be the first to shut my doors if there was screaming in my neighborhood. But I'd certainly call the cops.
 
2011-01-18 04:50:58 PM

eraser8: calbert: upload.wikimedia.org

Came for Kitty. Will leave at some point, mostly satisfied.

dj_bigbird: Yawn. You DO know that the whole hysteria about that was all caca?

Explain, please.


It's a myth that 38 people heard her screaming and ignored her. I found this without too much trouble. The urban legend has been debunked, but carries on because it makes good copy.
 
2011-01-18 04:58:02 PM

dj_bigbird: eraser8: calbert: upload.wikimedia.org

Came for Kitty. Will leave at some point, mostly satisfied.

dj_bigbird: Yawn. You DO know that the whole hysteria about that was all caca?

Explain, please.

It's a myth that 38 people heard her screaming and ignored her. I found this without too much trouble. The urban legend has been debunked, but carries on because it makes good copy.


Don't tell Harlan Ellison!
 
2011-01-18 05:00:56 PM

dj_bigbird: eraser8: calbert: upload.wikimedia.org

Came for Kitty. Will leave at some point, mostly satisfied.

dj_bigbird: Yawn. You DO know that the whole hysteria about that was all caca?

Explain, please.

It's a myth that 38 people heard her screaming and ignored her. I found this without too much trouble. The urban legend has been debunked, but carries on because it makes good copy.


That's very interesting. But, it doesn't "debunk" the investigation of the NYT or of the court testimony.

It's a different perspective, certainly. But, it's one that hasn't been authenticated as the definitive account of what happened that night.

Mr. Demay may claim that Ms. Genovese was unable to scream after the initial attack. But, the claims reported in the Times were based on the personal testimony of witnesses. I can understand why people like Mr. Demay may want to discount those histories, but such a desire does not override contemporaneous accounts.

So, I'm forced to ask again: do you have some definitive -- or, at least, generally convincing -- evidence that your claim is tenable?
 
2011-01-18 05:07:51 PM
What a disgusting thing to do - ignore a poor woman's cry for help. And it happened on the other side of the city from me, too.

Wait. This happened in Scarborough?


Oh, well. That explains that.
 
2011-01-18 05:35:09 PM

downstairs: He urged people to call police immediately if they hear someone screaming for help.

Really?!? You need to tell people this?

I know not to get involved when stuff like this happens, and I'd be the first to shut my doors if there was screaming in my neighborhood. But I'd certainly call the cops.


Yes you need to tell people this. Personally, I think it's your obligation to help those screaming for help, but it's been proven again and again that this is a minority opinion.
 
2011-01-18 05:38:03 PM
The myth that no one did anything is what gets debunked, there are mentions in that story about people calling the cops.
 
2011-01-18 05:41:43 PM
Helping her would be socialism.
 
2011-01-18 05:41:57 PM
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2011-01-18 05:45:28 PM

dj_bigbird: calbert: /a lot has changed in 50 years

Yawn. You DO know that the whole hysteria about that was all caca?

And a random scream at 2am? ZOMG!111! better call the cops!!!


My wife and I darted out of our apartment, phone in hand ready to call the cops when we heard a woman screaming at the top of her lungs from a nearby duplex across the street.

As we got closer we realized that she was just a screamer in bed, as the screaming became interspersed with "Oh God Yes", and her man yelling "Oh yeah baby!"

//Close the windows in the summertime people.
 
2011-01-18 05:46:14 PM
I hear my neighbors screaming all the time. If I called 911 every time they would lock ME up.

Where was the person who should have been watching her. Way to shift the blame.
 
2011-01-18 05:48:19 PM
TFA: "Shame on the 'neighbours' who heard cries of distress but did nothing. A woman is crying out in distress and they do nothing? It takes nothing to call 911," writes one person online.

Never voluntarily interact with the police for anything.

If you happen to be male, never intervene to help a woman or a child for anything.

When I was younger, these two truisms would never have been uttered, but I would wager heavily that there are more of you reading this and nodding your head than are recoiling in disgust. For the record, it makes me do both.
 
2011-01-18 05:48:48 PM

Quasar: One reason kids bother me is that they're always screaming in the neighborhood when they play, and I can never tell if it's an "oh no I was tagged, now I'm it" scream and a "please don't kidnap me" scream.



Oh jeez, I know. I have to stop myself from jumping up every time the kids on our street decide to play the "holy mother of God I'm being murdered" game.
 
2011-01-18 05:48:53 PM
Fine, I'll say it, a 66-year old woman with Alzheimer's freezes outside-

And nothing of value was lost.
 
2011-01-18 05:49:26 PM
Wow, I'm really disgusted by this. Seriously it should be a crime to do NOTHING if someone desperately needs help (I think it is in some parts of the country). At least call the police. That doesn't require you to get your little toesies cold.
 
2011-01-18 05:50:12 PM
Yeah up hear it's every (wo)man for themseleves, don't think we're calling the cops for your screaming, freezing ass.
 
2011-01-18 05:50:15 PM
Found it darkly comical that the woman died of cold in the driveway of the "St. Bernard" family.
 
2011-01-18 05:50:42 PM
Cool story time:

I had just moved into an apartment on Seaboard near Little Five Points, and one night, while I was sleeping, I hear a blood curdling scream outside my window. I didn't know what was happening, but I immediately got up, didn't even bother to put on my glasses or pants (it was summer so I was sleeping naked), grabbed the golf club, and went outside to stop what I thought was an attack on someone.

Turns out, it was just a couple of drunk girls standing below my window randomly screaming. I can only imagine what they were thinking when they saw a naked, tattooed, squinty-eyed man, with long unbrushed hair and a golf club raised above his head, but they stopped screaming, and I went back inside, grumbling, and went back to sleep.

Never heard anymore screaming the rest of the time I lived there.
 
2011-01-18 05:51:16 PM

Mr. Jarndyce: Found it darkly comical that the woman died of cold in the driveway of the "St. Bernard" family.


/burst out laughing
 
2011-01-18 05:52:23 PM
Yes. I would have the assumption that it was the roommate of me who learned that the pizza of her was not delivered in the 30 minutes or less as was the promise. For this reason she would scream. If you do not know the roommate of me is the bigger person. Bigger people always smell very bad but they also like to do screaming when the food of them has not arrived. It sounds much like the murder or the orgasm but the latter never happens to the bigger person like the roommate of me.
 
2011-01-18 05:53:30 PM
Do they have doorbells in Canadia?
 
2011-01-18 05:55:03 PM
onibara: Turns out, it was just a couple of drunk girls standing below my window randomly screaming.

I live in the college area, and that. It's like car alarms, or the boy who cried wolf. Nobody pays attention anymore.
 
2011-01-18 05:55:04 PM
If it's 2 am and I hear a strange woman screaming for help I know the basement door must have come ajar.
 
2011-01-18 05:56:18 PM
Kitty Genovese --- yes a member of that Genovese family
 
2011-01-18 05:56:29 PM

stirfrybry: Do they have doorbells in Canadia?


Not only do we have doorbells, but Michael Moore also proved that we never lock our doors. Ever.
 
2011-01-18 05:56:43 PM

meow said the dog: Yes. I would have the assumption that it was the roommate of me who learned that the pizza of her was not delivered in the 30 minutes or less as was the promise. For this reason she would scream. If you do not know the roommate of me is the bigger person. Bigger people always smell very bad but they also like to do screaming when the food of them has not arrived. It sounds much like the murder or the orgasm but the latter never happens to the bigger person like the roommate of me.




You have a roommate Scotty?
 
2011-01-18 05:56:56 PM

Quasar: One reason kids bother me is that they're always screaming in the neighborhood when they play, and I can never tell if it's an "oh no I was tagged, now I'm it" scream and a "please don't kidnap me" scream.


If there are kids playing tag in sub-zero temperatures at 2 in the morning... where the hell do you live???

It wasn't just a scream. It was screaming. Multiple screams.
 
2011-01-18 05:57:14 PM

meow said the dog: Yes. I would have the assumption that it was the roommate of me who learned that the pizza of her was not delivered in the 30 minutes or less as was the promise. For this reason she would scream. If you do not know the roommate of me is the bigger person. Bigger people always smell very bad but they also like to do screaming when the food of them has not arrived. It sounds much like the murder or the orgasm but the latter never happens to the bigger person like the roommate of me.


These thoughts precisely of mine.
 
2011-01-18 05:57:18 PM

Ponzholio: Fine, I'll say it, a 66-year old woman with Alzheimer's freezes outside-

And nothing of value was lost.


Sir Terry Pratchett would like to kindly invite you to go fark yourself.
 
2011-01-18 05:57:27 PM
Police called the 66-year-old woman's death a tragedy that might have had a different outcome, if only someone had called them in time.

What different outcome? You you would have shown up 12 hours later or not at all vs the dead body call when you knew there was something there that wouldn't hurt you. I realize cops are some downright ignorant piles of shiat but that statement gets the Solid Crap Donut award of the day.
 
2011-01-18 05:58:07 PM

Eugoogoolizer: Mr. Jarndyce: Found it darkly comical that the woman died of cold in the driveway of the "St. Bernard" family.

/burst out laughing


Yeah, me too.

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2011-01-18 05:58:18 PM
One time I snuck out of the house around 3am when I was about 13, and heard screaming coming from a wooded lot across the street from my house. I ran back in the house, and woke my dad.

He gets the car out, drives around for a bit....and says to me.

"Don't you know what it sounds like when two cats are farking?"

/good times
 
2011-01-18 05:58:31 PM

Quasar: One reason kids bother me is that they're always screaming in the neighborhood when they play, and I can never tell if it's an "oh no I was tagged, now I'm it" scream and a "please don't kidnap me" scream.


That's one thing. A scream at 2 AM? Damn right I'm calling the cops.
 
2011-01-18 05:58:42 PM

meow said the dog: Yes. I would have the assumption that it was the roommate of me who learned that the pizza of her was not delivered in the 30 minutes or less as was the promise. For this reason she would scream. If you do not know the roommate of me is the bigger person. Bigger people always smell very bad but they also like to do screaming when the food of them has not arrived. It sounds much like the murder or the orgasm but the latter never happens to the bigger person like the roommate of me.


But then again, if a fat person was screaming would anybody want to help?
 
2011-01-18 05:59:40 PM

stirfrybry: Do they have doorbells in Canadia?


Yes, but you turn them off when it is too cold because they ring randomly in the night.
 
2011-01-18 05:59:59 PM

AnubisMan: If it's 2 am and I hear a strange woman screaming for help I know the basement door must have come ajar.


This is why you keep the leg shackles on at all times. No exceptions
 
2011-01-18 06:00:36 PM

Vance Uppercut: stirfrybry: Do they have doorbells in Canadia?

Yes, but you turn them off when it is too cold because they ring randomly in the night.


Okay... that's funny.
 
2011-01-18 06:00:49 PM

lordargent: onibara: Turns out, it was just a couple of drunk girls standing below my window randomly screaming.

I live in the college area, and that. It's like car alarms, or the boy who cried wolf. Nobody pays attention anymore.


Yep. I live across the street from a park. 2am screaming=drunks having fun on the playground equipment. The cops only get called if they get too annoying.

/used to live at a place with peacocks
//peacocks sound exactly like a woman screaming for help
 
2011-01-18 06:01:25 PM

rebelyell2006: meow said the dog: Yes. I would have the assumption that it was the roommate of me who learned that the pizza of her was not delivered in the 30 minutes or less as was the promise. For this reason she would scream. If you do not know the roommate of me is the bigger person. Bigger people always smell very bad but they also like to do screaming when the food of them has not arrived. It sounds much like the murder or the orgasm but the latter never happens to the bigger person like the roommate of me.

But then again, if a fat person was screaming would anybody want to help?


You bring up the excellent point. No one would wish to give the help because it costs extra money to the government for bringing the heavy equipment.
 
2011-01-18 06:01:32 PM

Mr. Jarndyce: Found it darkly comical that the woman died of cold in the driveway of the "St. Bernard" family.


They could have least brought her out a glass of Canadian whisky.
 
2011-01-18 06:02:00 PM
I lived downtown for a while. If I called the cops every time some drunk chick was screaming bloody murder in the middle of the street I'd be jumping out of bed three times every night, and would probably end up in jail for wasting police resources.
 
2011-01-18 06:02:18 PM
Beats the Hell out of (B): Go investigate and get shot 20 times in the back by trigger-happy cops who say it "looked like he had a gun" because you happened to have a hand on the end of your arm.
 
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