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2011-01-16 12:54:14 PM  
So instead of finding a different counselor, he decides to ruin her life.

Well . . . she's an idiot, but sir, are a dick.
 
2011-01-16 12:54:55 PM  

letrole: Little Drop of Poison: Enlighten me. How do I learn to be a homosexual?

Without any further details, it would conjecture. But it's safe to say it's the path of least resistance. You didn't learn to be homosexual, rather, you failed to learn to be heterosexual.


So, without being trained to be heterosexual, I would be (by default) homosexual? Interesting.
 
2011-01-16 12:56:42 PM  
maxx2112:
So instead of finding a different counselor, he decides to ruin her life prevent her from ruining other people's lives.
 
2011-01-16 12:57:15 PM  
No one's pointed out the irony of a psychotherapist making an appeal to an invisible being that no one can see or hear for help?
 
2011-01-16 12:57:34 PM  

maxx2112: So instead of finding a different counselor, he decides to ruin her life.

Well . . . she's an idiot, but sir, are a dick.


It's more of a public service, really.
 
2011-01-16 12:57:36 PM  

maxx2112: So instead of finding a different counselor, he decides to ruin her life.

Well . . . she's an idiot, but sir, are a dick.


No . . . She ruined her life.
 
2011-01-16 01:03:02 PM  

maxx2112: So instead of finding a different counselor, he decides to ruin her life.

Well . . . she's an idiot, but sir, are a dick.


Maybe you don't understand investigative journalism, but his goal was not to find a counselor that wasn't breaking the law.
 
2011-01-16 01:04:01 PM  

Little Drop of Poison: So, without being trained to be heterosexual, I would be (by default) homosexual?


Of course not. In earlier times, such a man would be a bit shy, unsure, socially awkward, but not the least bit interested in or even aware of sodomy as a vocation. In time, perhaps later than for his peers, the right almost any girl would come along and things would then progress normally.

We cop our cuddles where we can.
 
2011-01-16 01:05:04 PM  
I suppose given sufficent time and a complete lack of ethics and morality you COULD completely break down someone's psyche and rebuild them to match whatever orientation you wanted them to have.

But that would probably come under the heading of 'crimes against humanity' and the UN would send you a very strongly worded cease and desist letter.
 
2011-01-16 01:05:30 PM  

JWF85: jpcerutti: 40yoVirgin: Whoever accredited this woman should also be canned.

/silly muthercrackin' christians and their ignorant ways

Yes, it is much less silly to spend countless hours and money exploring your issues with your mother and father to deal with homosexuality.

/Where's R Lee Ermey when you need him?

Uh... They don't "deal" with it, unless it's relevant to something else. There is no major or credible psychological or psychiatric outlet that considers it a disorder.


If you read a little further, I think we've already covered this issue in the thread.

/But thank you for sharing.
//I also do not think R Lee Ermey is a qualified psychotherapist if that'll clear up any confusion.
 
2011-01-16 01:07:11 PM  

Holy Crap: 14) To lose my chance at a rightful marriage.15) To hide myself from everyone else.Who wouldn't choose to be gay?!/not mine//If being gay is really a choice, then do it. Right now. Become gay. Just for a second, to see what it's like. You can choose to become straight again right afterward, but do your honest best to become gay for just a few seconds so you can understand better.



Heck, id think thered be a lot more gays. Think about it, how often have you heard women complaining about men and jokingly wishing women did it for them. And vice versa, the shiat we men go through w/ women... wouldnt it be great if you could just hang out with the guys? And still get your dick sucked?
 
2011-01-16 01:07:23 PM  
calitreview.com

Also had problems curing her patient.
 
2011-01-16 01:07:50 PM  

letrole: It's quite simple. I was raised in a normal environment.


So was I.
 
2011-01-16 01:09:49 PM  

maxx2112: So instead of finding a different counselor, he decides to ruin her life.

Well . . . she's an idiot, but sir, are a dick.


I'm pretty sure I heard somewhere that reparative therapy increases suicide rate- because it doesn't work, so when gay people try it because they don't want to be gay, see it as a sin, etc, then they succumb to their natural urges within a year of the therapy... they see themselves as unfixable/unworthy.The ones with money go back, because a surprising amount of homosexual things happen in reparative therapy, and they basically express their homosexuality there, but poorer people for which this was their 'last chance'... not a good outlook. People need to go to therapy to grow more accepting of who they are, not guilty. That's what church is for.
Also,
http://www.csufresno.edu/StudentOrgs/usp/resources/flyers/missionimpossible.htm
 
2011-01-16 01:11:26 PM  

Adaro: maxx2112: So instead of finding a different counselor, he decides to ruin her life.

Well . . . she's an idiot, but sir, are a dick.

I'm pretty sure I heard somewhere that reparative therapy increases suicide rate- because it doesn't work, so when gay people try it because they don't want to be gay, see it as a sin, etc, then they succumb to their natural urges within a year of the therapy... they see themselves as unfixable/unworthy.The ones with money go back, because a surprising amount of homosexual things happen in reparative therapy, and they basically express their homosexuality there, but poorer people for which this was their 'last chance'... not a good outlook. People need to go to therapy to grow more accepting of who they are, not guilty. That's what church is for.
Also,
http://www.csufresno.edu/StudentOrgs/usp/resources/flyers/missionimpossible.htm


Sadly, maybe that's the point of the 'therapy'...
 
2011-01-16 01:12:16 PM  

40yoVirgin: jpcerutti: "...deal with homosexuality."

Do straight people deal with their heterosexuality?

I don't see homosexuality as being a problem... its natural. The only problem I have seen stems from bigoted jackasses.


Bigoted jackasses are also natural. It's all based on the ancient "if it don't look like me, kill it" instinct. Most of us have it to some degree, and squash it with varying degrees of success.
 
2011-01-16 01:13:46 PM  
The rapists are usually psycho.
 
2011-01-16 01:14:28 PM  

Begoggle: letrole: Bushmen don't have any more interest in female breasts than they do in elbows.

Farkers are really into rounded knees.


You ever seen a bushlady's breasts? I don't have any interest in those either.
 
2011-01-16 01:18:05 PM  
What a crackpot. Who knows how much damage she's done to mentally ill, desperate people (brainwashed by their own churches, no doubt) who think they can be "cured" via magic? This is no different than if she were a physician and tried to treat cancer by "balancing the humors," or heart disease with bleeding. It's complete and utter Dark Ages bullshiat.

You have the right to believe in the Tooth Fairy, Jesus, etc. You don't have the right to drag your superstitious beliefs into a medical practice and disguise it as "therapy." People don't choose to be gay, any more than people choose to be straight. If they did, then a lot of straight guys would turn gay after being burned by bad marriages, and a lot of gay guys would turn straight after being victimized or attacked by their families and religious groups. The fact that all such attempts fail only goes to show you how impossible the concept it, and yet because "gays" are right up there with "Satan" in the religious mythology of the whack-jobs, they keep trying to get rid of them.

I hope she IS struck off, and ends up working at a church or something in a harmless position away from the public. Considering her gross professional misconduct, and tenuous grasp on reality, this sounds an appropriate measure.
 
2011-01-16 01:20:52 PM  
Holy Crap: Reasons to Choose to Become Gay

You left out #16: "Get trolled by an obnoxious shiathead with a micropenis that masturbates daily to Dr. Who reruns in his mother's basement"
 
2011-01-16 01:20:54 PM  

letrole: Bushmen don't have any more interest in female breasts than they do in elbows.


Bushwomen don't cover themselves, so seeing the boobies is not rare and exciting for bushmen. Kind of like how in Victorian times men could get turned on by ankles, but not these days.

Hell, isn't this part of the argument some people have against pornography? If you get to see tons of women doing weird and nasty things, some claim that it makes men less interested in what real women have to offer.

But hey, you're trolling, so carrion.
 
2011-01-16 01:22:04 PM  
letrole 2011-01-16 12:45:30 PM
amaranthe: Looks like your name says it all. "Le Troll"..? LOL

My surname is Le Trôle.


^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

Heh. That shtick never gets old.
 
2011-01-16 01:22:15 PM  
here is a 'homosexual problem':
Why Do All These Homosexuals Keep Sucking My Cock? (new window)

applies to any gay thread.
 
2011-01-16 01:26:12 PM  

the masked farker: Teknowaffle:


Amen Gay men.

FTFY


3.bp.blogspot.com

BRILLIANT!
 
2011-01-16 01:26:26 PM  
So she can only "help" gay men but not gay woman? what's up with that? not that I'm complaining or anything
 
2011-01-16 01:27:27 PM  
bravia: letrole: It's quite simple. I was raised in a normal environment.

So was I.


As was I.

Two loving parents (still happily married), secure middle class home, good friends, and great schools/education.
 
2011-01-16 01:29:20 PM  
Good.

May she never work as a shrink again.
 
2011-01-16 01:30:18 PM  

Holy Crap: If being gay is really a choice, then do it. Right now. Become gay. Just for a second, to see what it's like.


And I'm here to help. But it'll take a bit more than a second...
 
2011-01-16 01:30:52 PM  

punto: So she can only "help" gay men but not gay woman? what's up with that? not that I'm complaining or anything


If you ever want to see an amazing transformation, watch women who ignore a geeky guy get told that the guy is gay. It's as if suddenly, when faced with the idea that there is a man not interested in them, they try harder to "convert" him. It's as if gay men hurt their egos.
 
2011-01-16 01:31:17 PM  

letrole: Homosexuality is a Learned Behaviour. The instinct for sex involves thrusting and groping and kissing and so forth. If you get horny at the sight of a naked man, or if you get horny at the sight of a naked woman, it is only because you have been taught to make that association.

Bushmen don't have any more interest in female breasts than they do in elbows. The Western fascination with breasts is not instinctive. Certain deviants find stinky feet to be objects of desire. There is very little 'hard-wiring' involved in sexual attraction. You grope and fondle and kiss with whatever you've been taught to be appropriate.


I first associated sex with straight sex. That didn't stop me from later finding some men physically attractive. I'm not gay, but I know it's natural.
 
2011-01-16 01:31:53 PM  

xanadian: And I'm here to help. But it'll take a bit more than a second...


That reminds me of a comeback to when gay guys flirt with me.

"Sorry, I prefer men."

:)
 
2011-01-16 01:33:30 PM  

LavenderWolf: I first associated sex with straight sex. That didn't stop me from later finding some men physically attractive.


I feel the same way about women. I can acknowledge that some of them are quite beautiful. Doesn't mean I wanna bone 'em.
 
2011-01-16 01:33:33 PM  
Religion is not psychotherapy. She should not be allowed to introduce personal views into her professional conduct. If you want to preach and pray, go to church with all the other people who cannot accept their parents are human and so created a perfect father/mother who can never fail them.
 
2011-01-16 01:37:27 PM  

40yoVirgin: bravia: letrole: It's quite simple. I was raised in a normal environment.

So was I.

As was I.

Two loving parents (still happily married), secure middle class home, good friends, and great schools/education.


My family was dysfunctional as hell and I'm heterosexual.
Innate characteristics can be stifled, but they are always there.
 
2011-01-16 01:41:12 PM  

RLupin: I hope she IS struck off, and ends up working at a church or something in a harmless position away from the public. Considering her gross professional misconduct, and tenuous grasp on reality, this sounds an appropriate measure.


She's 60 and has been doing this shiat for 20 years. They're a little late. Has that accreditation organization really been asleep at the wheel for decades?
 
2011-01-16 01:50:46 PM  
I'd need to see a pic, but I think that woman could probably turn Charlie Sheen gay.
 
2011-01-16 02:03:14 PM  
Pray on, praying woman. While you're chanting to a space fairy, I am working on a gay vaccine that will make me millions!
 
2011-01-16 02:03:49 PM  
You know, I keep hearing about this miraculous choice we all had to be gay. You know I very consciously made the choice to be straight... well it doesn't work that way. I am fabulous and was born fabulous. We don't choose.

/Wonder when she chose to be straight?
//Wonder if she knows that the American Psychiatric Association as well as all other medical and social boards advocate that homosexuality is not a disease nor is it abnormal?
 
2011-01-16 02:06:23 PM  
illannoyin:

1.bp.blogspot.com


Why did I have to look a little deeper and wonder how clammy it gets under that vinyl.

Does that make me gay?

/I may need prayer.
 
2011-01-16 02:15:07 PM  
IANAL or a Brit, but does the concept of entrapment apply in a civil matter and when the entrapment is done by a civilian?

Moreover, what does it matter if this woman is stripped of her credentials, aside from NHS reimbursement. She'll just re-label herself as a "Christian Counselor" and go on with her cockamamie counseling.
 
2011-01-16 02:15:56 PM  
I hope this woman gets her license pulled. I am finishing up my Masters in Counseling and it irks me to no end when I hear judgmental people doing therapy. I kinda thought my colleagues would all be open minded and willing to really get to know people but that isn't always the case. Especially the conservative religious crowd. Don't go into counseling. No one wants Glenn Beck as a therapist.
 
2011-01-16 02:17:16 PM  

acohn: IANAL or a Brit, but does the concept of entrapment apply in a civil matter and when the entrapment is done by a civilian?

Moreover, what does it matter if this woman is stripped of her credentials, aside from NHS reimbursement. She'll just re-label herself as a "Christian Counselor" and go on with her cockamamie counseling.


Without Licensure she won't be able to charge insurance companies, and good luck trying to get people to pay $60 an hour for a conversation.
 
2011-01-16 02:19:29 PM  

letrole: Homosexuality is a Learned Behaviour. The instinct for sex involves thrusting and groping and kissing and so forth. If you get horny at the sight of a naked man, or if you get horny at the sight of a naked woman, it is only because you have been taught to make that association.

Bushmen don't have any more interest in female breasts than they do in elbows. The Western fascination with breasts is not instinctive. Certain deviants find stinky feet to be objects of desire. There is very little 'hard-wiring' involved in sexual attraction. You grope and fondle and kiss with whatever you've been taught to be appropriate.


You need therapy.
 
2011-01-16 02:30:42 PM  
Mr. Strudwick is so ghey.

If he didn't want to be cured of his homosexuality, he shouldn't have gone to her for counseling.
 
2011-01-16 02:35:55 PM  

40yoVirgin: Whoever accredited this woman should also be canned.

/silly muthercrackin' christians and their ignorant ways


You'd probably be surprised how often psychologists, psychiatrists and social workers suggest religion as treatment. If you think about it, it's really just one form of voodoo bullshiat buying into another.
 
2011-01-16 02:41:04 PM  
What's even more wrong is the picture of the two supposedly gay men in TFA who are wearing plaid. They don't do that, do they?
 
2011-01-16 02:41:30 PM  
In her defense, Jesus was kinda hot.
 
2011-01-16 02:49:39 PM  
There's good and bad therapists, just like there's good and bad physicians.

Not every therapist who goes into the field does so because of altruistic motivations and Psychiatrists must complete psychotherapy themselves before getting their doctorate. Psychologists don't.

Psychologists, however, are bound to the same stringent laws as Psychiatrists.

I've met some bad shrinks, ranging from those who are downright sullen to those who simply get irritated when they meet resistance from a patient.

One of the most surprising situations I came across was a well liked and well balanced psychologist, with a thriving practice, who committed suicide shortly after his mother died. His wife, a psychologist also, was stunned.

I have no problem with any shrink being religious, so long as they hold to the philosophies of the field. That means having an open mind. Their own personal bias should not be projected onto the patient. If one goes to a religious based shrink, however, one must expect the therapy to be heavily influenced in that direction.

The patient has the option to find someone else if he disagrees.

Like, generally holistic medicine is pretty much bunk in all but a few areas, but it is still a recognized and accepted field and one makes a choice to accept treatment.

Homosexuality was, at one time, considered a mental disorder. While professionals in general are realizing that, for the majority, it is a genetic condition, it's still often seen as a 'choice' among the general population. You expect this mind set to still be predominate among some professionals.

There are, however, several mental disorders which can cause a form of homosexuality. As the conditions are treated, the homosexuality fades, but in general it is recognized that the patient was heterosexual to begin with.

In the therapist's defense, she DID warn him of her treatment basics and philosophies. He had the option to go elsewhere -- as did her other patients.

I once observed a surgeon in an ER remove an infected bullet from a patient's leg without anaesthetic. Her reasoning was that there was no need for numbing injections or putting the patient out for the process since that was too time consuming, plus the bullet was just under the skin. So the patient screamed for the several minutes the operation took. I did not consider her a very empathetic surgeon and while her skills were excellent, I would not want her working on me.

Doctors in ER routinely slice open a patient's chest to shove a chest tube in when the pleural cavity is filling with blood. No numbing agent is applied. So the patient gets to experience the sensation of being stabbed. Then, stitched up. There are other doctors who insist that the tube can be inserted without pain by using numbing injections, but the practice is still not universal or wide spread.

Yet, this is accepted.

The Therapist has the right to practice as she believes so long as her patients are fully informed of her treatment plan. They, then, have the option of finding someone else if they disagree.
 
2011-01-16 02:59:10 PM  
From now on I will endeavor to call homosexual men "fabulous" and correct them when they call themselves "gay", I like calling poorly coded websites "gay", the papryus font is frequently referred to in my house as "gay", but I don't mean it, nor do I want it, to be derogatory towards homosexuals in any way. The word "queer" was once used to connote homosexuality, but it isn't in general use that way anymore. So from now on I want all you to shine on you "fabulous" men.

/As an example of the correct use of the word "gay" you may say that my abuse of the <AIR QOUTES>"quotation marks"</AIR QOUTES> is "gay".
 
2011-01-16 02:59:21 PM  

40yoVirgin: bravia: letrole: It's quite simple. I was raised in a normal environment.

So was I.

As was I.

Two loving parents (still happily married), secure middle class home, good friends, and great schools/education.


As was I, down to the literal white picket fence.
 
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