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2011-01-13 05:36:17 PM
Says you, subby.
 
2011-01-13 06:22:53 PM
"It was going on now -- they [the Hearst Ranch] are not going to be able to show up and get those zebras. They are wild animals. How are you going to catch them?" he asked the Tribune. A third zebra was shot and killed on a nearby ranch.

Fiscalini said he sent the animals to a taxidermist to make a rug out of their hides"


How did they catch them in Africa? Must be a lost art. Oh well, it'll make a nice rug! BLAM!

/asshole
 
2011-01-13 07:11:33 PM
Oh, zeeba neighbor!
 
ZAZ [TotalFark]
2011-01-13 07:38:56 PM
Zebras are horses with stripes.

And I had something more to add but I noticed the "hot lead" tag on this article and clicked it for entertainment value and was entertained by the total irrelevance of the other related articles.
 
2011-01-13 09:05:06 PM
WTF? I would be curious and kinda delighted if a zebra wandered onto my property.
 
2011-01-13 09:06:17 PM
What's black and white and red all over?

Zebra Rug!

/And it's really hard to get those bloodstains out without bleaching the black stripes.
 
2011-01-13 09:10:20 PM
Does not approve:

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Approves:

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/ZZE
 
2011-01-13 09:19:22 PM
jaytkay: WTF? I would be curious and kinda delighted if a zebra wandered onto my property.

I would immediately wonder if it was Steve, the zebra that played the Güiro in my first band.



/if it wasn't him, I'd probably give him an apple
 
2011-01-13 09:21:38 PM
sfappeal.com
Advocates shooting on zebras
 
2011-01-13 09:26:05 PM
jaytkay,WTF? I would be curious and kinda delighted if a zebra wandered onto my property

If 'Guns, Germs and Steel' is correct, Zebras are mean if cornered, easily spooked and spiteful animals that are not meant to be domesticated.

/Now cue the pics of the cute pet zebras.
 
2011-01-13 09:26:16 PM
Whew. For a second, I thought TFA was about a friend's zebra who was kidnapped and the court ruled that the kidnapper had to return him.
 
2011-01-13 09:26:47 PM
How can they legally keep the skin? If it was a cow could they skin and butcher it even if it was the other rancher's cattle?
 
2011-01-13 09:31:53 PM
you know what else would threaten your livestock? a pissed off neighbor lying in wait with a gun for your livestock to wander one inch off your property. personally, i'm rooting for some good ol'fashioned eye for an eye revenge in this case and it doesn't seem too unlikely that the zebra-shooting neighbor's livestock might wander off for a split second some evening.

/assholes should get treated like assholes
 
2011-01-13 09:37:49 PM
I cannot STAND people who shoot other people's pets or livestock, simply because the "have the legal right" to do it.
 
2011-01-13 09:54:54 PM
3 G's: I cannot STAND people who shoot other people's pets or livestock, simply because the "have the legal right" to do it.

What about people who fail to adequately contain their pets or livestock?

Or people who allow their pets or livestock to damage other people's property?

I agree with the sentiment that it was probably unnecessary to kill the zebras, but the first step in avoiding the situation goes to the owner.
 
2011-01-13 09:57:43 PM
"It was going on now -- they [the Hearst Ranch] are not going to be able to show up and get those zebras. They are wild animals. How are you going to catch them?"

If a zebra can be shot with a bullet, can it not be shot with a tranquilizer dart?
 
2011-01-13 09:59:41 PM
JesseL: 3 G's: I cannot STAND people who shoot other people's pets or livestock, simply because the "have the legal right" to do it.

What about people who fail to adequately contain their pets or livestock?

Or people who allow their pets or livestock to damage other people's property?

I agree with the sentiment that it was probably unnecessary to kill the zebras, but the first step in avoiding the situation goes to the owner.


Dude, this is Fark. Nobody is responsible for their own actions.
 
2011-01-13 10:02:42 PM
I understand being able to shoot the zebra, but how do you have the right to farking skin it and use it as a rug. Seems a little cruel to me.
 
2011-01-13 10:09:41 PM
Sensitiveborderarea: "It was going on now -- they [the Hearst Ranch] are not going to be able to show up and get those zebras. They are wild animals. How are you going to catch them?"

If a zebra can be shot with a bullet, can it not be shot with a tranquilizer dart?


You got a prescription for zebra tranquilizer darts and a gun to shoot them from handy? Its not as if you can get Zebras to take bong hits until they pass out or anything like that Mr Crazy Idea Man.
 
2011-01-13 10:09:56 PM
Umfufu inconsolable.
 
2011-01-13 10:17:33 PM
Are zebras chargers? How is a zebra threatening to regular livestock? Maybe they have tiny livestock?
 
2011-01-13 10:18:46 PM
I love the crocodile tears from the wife of the taxidermist hired to turn the animals' remains into a rug. That's rancher logic she uses though; if they have the vaguest notion anything might disturb their livestock it automatically becomes a "predator" or other vermin and needs to be removed from the environment.

I suspect that they would take a different stance if it were a matter of stray livestock from ranchers' property being shot because it trespassed on the Hearst estate and was feared to be a threat to the Zebras.
 
2011-01-13 10:26:40 PM
One of these neighbors was claiming that the zebra was a predator.

Yeah...if you are a plant.

He just wanted the taxidermy specimen.
 
2011-01-13 10:27:04 PM
Was this a repeat violation, or a one time thing? And why didn't they call the Hearsts and tell them that they had XXX amount of time to get the zebras off their land before they shot them?

Also, I understand shooting a dangerous animal, but skinning it and having it made into a rug just seems like they did it for some other reason then it being a danger. Like, they wanted a zebra-skin rug and decided that the best way to do it was wait for a stray or maybe take the fence down
 
2011-01-13 10:31:28 PM
Free Range Fetus Farmer: Are zebras chargers? How is a zebra threatening to regular livestock? Maybe they have tiny livestock?

In the wild zebras have been known to kick young gazelles to death, so I suppose it is possible for them to be dangerous... but I suspect they just wanted a free zebra-skin rug.
 
2011-01-13 10:34:36 PM
According to KSBY news tonight, Fiscalini says he doesn't plan to keep the hides, he'll either give them back or auction them off for charity.

This is pretty big news here locally. Zebra shootings are something of a rarity.
 
2011-01-13 10:35:18 PM
mikaloyd

You got a prescription for zebra tranquilizer darts and a gun to shoot them from handy? Its not as if you can get Zebras to take bong hits until they pass out or anything like that Mr Crazy Idea Man.

No problem. A close friend of mine is a vet who has that stuff. When I need to handle animals which really do not like to be touched, I prefer to use a rope. If I just have to move a skittish animal, sometimes it is easiest to just chase it through gates that I get someone to open ahead of me. I don't like to tranquilize animals because it can very easily accidentally kill. On the other hand, bullets are even more likely to kill.
 
2011-01-13 10:36:02 PM
From an earlier AP article...

"But Fiscalini said there wasn't time to call. It's branding time on his ranch, and replacing a horse that might have been injured in a clash with the zebras would have cost him tens of thousands of dollars, he said.

'These zebras have no respect for fences. They tear fences down and go right through them,' Fiscalini said.

Hearst said: 'They have some respect for a fence. But if they want to move, they'll hop the fence.'

The zebras weren't trying to hurt the horses, but they were spooking them, so he had the right to shoot them, Fiscalini said.


Slightly different than the "YEEHAW!!" version on AOL News.
 
2011-01-13 10:45:24 PM
angrygrizzly: 'These zebras have no respect for fences. They tear fences down and go right through them,' Fiscalini said.

Hearst said: 'They have some respect for a fence. But if they want to move, they'll hop the fence.'


If your fences can't hold your livestock, you need to get better fences. That's one of the first laws of animal management, perhaps THE first law.
 
2011-01-13 10:51:37 PM
Chariset: If your fences can't hold your livestock, you need to get better fences. That's one of the first laws of animal management, perhaps THE first law.

No, I think the first law is, no matter how much you love them, don't have sex with their corpse in front of a pre-school.
 
2011-01-13 10:52:40 PM
If your fences can't hold your livestock, you need to get better fences. That's one of the first laws of animal management, perhaps THE first law.

I agree with that. Many animals that don't have much respect for fences will change their mind after you add the right amount of electricity.
 
2011-01-13 10:53:23 PM
That zebra was out of his element. But I'm sure he really ties the room together at the rancher's place.
 
2011-01-13 11:00:24 PM
obamartins: I understand being able to shoot the zebra, but how do you have the right to farking skin it and use it as a rug. Seems a little cruel to me.

platedlizard: Also, I understand shooting a dangerous animal, but skinning it and having it made into a rug just seems like they did it for some other reason then it being a danger. Like, they wanted a zebra-skin rug and decided that the best way to do it was wait for a stray or maybe take the fence down


Waste not want not. Why wouldn't you do something useful with the hide? That's the sort of thing that needs to be done fairly quickly or it just rots.


cloud_van_dame: One of these neighbors was claiming that the zebra was a predator.

Yeah...if you are a plant.


It was the taxidermist's wife who said that.
 
2011-01-13 11:40:22 PM
obamartins: I understand being able to shoot the zebra, but how do you have the right to farking skin it and use it as a rug. Seems a little cruel to me.

I think they were sending a message to other animals, in case they get fence hopping notions. Sometimes you got to set an example.
 
2011-01-13 11:47:25 PM
Yeah, those zebras, they were...you know, threatening.

Oh, and, thanks for the rugs!

Seriously, though, zebras are spooking the horses? They're horses. They spook at anything that runs around near them. I'm pretty sure you chasing the zebras off would have been just as(if not more) effective than you planting a couple of rifle rounds in the beasts.

Oh, and you're a farking rancher! How the hell do you catch loose animals?

This sounds more like a case of bitter neighbor syndrome than anything else.

/Also, if your zebras are jumping the fence, get a higher fence. You are responsible for that much.
 
2011-01-13 11:48:37 PM
Sounds like the Hearsts have been lovely neighbors.
"Yeah, our animals get out. And?"
 
2011-01-14 12:48:18 AM
sounds like a hatfield and mccoy party going on. With zebras.

/Neighbor has some zebras. Other neighbors don't like the zebras but they did need a rug. Living room now furnished in new black and white theme.
 
2011-01-14 01:53:07 AM
As a rural resident in SLO county I say good on the rancher for protecting his property. Screw Hearst Castle for allowing their animals to repeatedly wander to someone else's property. Build a better fence for fark's sake, it's not like you're broke.
 
2011-01-14 04:33:40 AM
I wish I could shoot my neighbors Yorkie.

I bet 90% of people who live next to people with Yorkies wish they could shoot their neighbors dog too.

Just saying. Not that I would ever do that.
 
2011-01-14 12:09:49 PM
but I suspect they just wanted a free zebra-skin rug

Bingo. Rancher realized that this was his one-and-only chance to actually go big game hunting. The "look out, it's coming right for us!" excuse is just an excuse.
 
2011-01-14 01:24:36 PM
Zebras are dangerous to animals and people. They are not as much like horses as they are like donkeys who have a more agressive side. And since these are free roaming pets, they are certainly not easy to handle with ropes. Zebras will kick, strike, or bite you without a moment of hesitation. A striking animal can easily kill you in one motion. Striking is where the animal stands on its hind legs while pawing with its front.

As someone who raised many horses I can bet its the uncut males who usually get out, and the last thing you want is one chasing down your mares. As for the cattle, if they are dairy cattle being chased or frightened into stampeding can ruin a milking cow from stress, and will certainly ruin any cows milk for a week or more depending on the amount of stress. And stampeding cattle can be super dangerous when they run through a fence and acrossed the neighborhood!

Zebras a wild animals who get chased around by lions IRL they are not pets!
 
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