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(NPR)   Remember that money you donated to help Haiti after the earthquake? Yeah, it's still just sitting around   (npr.org) divider line 60
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2011-01-11 06:00:24 PM  
For some reason, I first read that as "Hentai". Then I thought that I haven't donated to help Hentai in quite a while.
 
2011-01-11 07:16:31 PM  
UberDave: For some reason, I first read that as "Hentai". Then I thought that I haven't donated to help Hentai in quite a while.

It's a very noble cause. Why isn't the Red Tentacle doing more?
 
2011-01-11 08:16:20 PM  
knowyourmeme.com
 
2011-01-11 08:25:55 PM  
Well, how many mud cookies could they possibly eat?
 
2011-01-11 08:27:14 PM  
How charity funding works: use money donated during the previous disaster to fund the next one.

/DRTFA
 
2011-01-11 08:28:13 PM  
Haiti, Katrina, the list goes on.
 
2011-01-11 08:28:58 PM  
That's how aid services work. Remember all that money you donated to the tsunami victims? That went to Haiti. Each donation that is collected for the present disaster will be spent on the next, and each dollar spent on the current disaster was collected from the last.
 
2011-01-11 08:29:29 PM  
This is what happens when you let red tape and process get in the way of helping people on the ground. You could spend a decade debating the perfect plan to turn Haiti into a utopia, which will fail... or you could go help people now as best as you can now, realizing that the effort will be imperfect.

But no, the bureaucrats must have their control!
 
2011-01-11 08:30:20 PM  
Last I heard, Haitians were still living in filthy tent cities and the women were being raped by groups of armed men.

maybe they should start spending some money.
 
2011-01-11 08:32:25 PM  
Haiti charges charities 40% tax on anything they import. I could not believe it, they deserve to starve. The charities have to make a choice between aid and paying cash, it is unreal.
 
2011-01-11 08:32:43 PM  
ihatedumbpeople: Last I heard, Haitians were still living in filthy tent cities and the women were being raped by groups of armed men.

maybe they should start spending some money.


How is that different than how it was before the earthquake?
 
2011-01-11 08:33:03 PM  
...so what, the obvious tag was out on vacation?
 
2011-01-11 08:33:48 PM  
hookers. donate to hookers.
 
2011-01-11 08:34:12 PM  
Mr. Bombtrack: That's how aid services work. Remember all that money you donated to the tsunami victims? That went to Haiti. Each donation that is collected for the present disaster will be spent on the next, and each dollar spent on the current disaster was collected from the last.

Not in this case. The aid that went to Haiti is not being used at all, not being stored away for the next disaster. Over a hundred cars donated for use are sitting in a lot with weeds growing over them because of high import taxes.

It's not the way the aid setup works in this case. It's the government not allowing it to be used. Some good is being done, but not nearly enough for the people, or in light of what was given.
 
2011-01-11 08:34:23 PM  
I'm already against the next natural disaster.
 
2011-01-11 08:34:51 PM  
I knew the same crap was going to happen after katrina. Big surprise someone else pockets them ducketts!
 
2011-01-11 08:35:12 PM  
ihatedumbpeople: Last I heard, Haitians were still living in filthy tent cities and the women were being raped by groups of armed men.

maybe they should start spending some money.


At least buy the women American made Smith & Wesson revolvers so they could fire back.
 
2011-01-11 08:38:40 PM  
Money, although helpful, must be controlled in such a tight fisted and slow trickle method to ensure abuses don't contribute to methods that are actually counterproductive.

Infrastructure development, crisis relief, and general construction are difficult projects to enact in a developing country in a method that doesn't lead to abuse by some groups to the long term detriment of others.

Spending money quickly just to spend it won't relieve suffering faster or stop the spread of cholera. It needs to be done pragmatically, coldly, and over the course of time to ensure proper management practices are followed.

/you stopped reading in the first sentence.
//used to work on UNDP projects.
 
2011-01-11 08:47:03 PM  
Conan endorsed the one that ultimately threw 96% of itself into disaster.
 
2011-01-11 08:49:07 PM  
Giving these people money isn't going to help anything. They have to get all bootstrappy. That, and accept Jesus. Nothing else will work.
 
2011-01-11 08:49:35 PM  
AwfulJackass: Money, although helpful, must be controlled in such a tight fisted and slow trickle method to ensure abuses don't contribute to methods that are actually counterproductive.

Infrastructure development, crisis relief, and general construction are difficult projects to enact in a developing country in a method that doesn't lead to abuse by some groups to the long term detriment of others.

Spending money quickly just to spend it won't relieve suffering faster or stop the spread of cholera. It needs to be done pragmatically, coldly, and over the course of time to ensure proper management practices are followed.

/you stopped reading in the first sentence.
//used to work on UNDP projects.



Yep...well said.


The kitteh who donated before the earthquake is a noble soul too.
 
2011-01-11 08:52:44 PM  
Nope. Don't seem to remember donating money or giving a crap in the first place.
 
2011-01-11 08:53:15 PM  
joeyromeo: Conan endorsed the one that ultimately threw 96% of itself into disaster.

Crom?
 
2011-01-11 08:53:29 PM  
The Angry Hand of God: Nope. Don't seem to remember donating money or giving a crap in the first place.

Well...didn't you cause it in the first place?
 
2011-01-11 09:00:03 PM  
There is nothing there to spend money on. It is a sea of dust and mud and misery. There is no way to buy repairs or infrastructure, there are no construction companies or building materials or people knowledgeable enough to build anything. There are no hospitals, clinics or medical care that you can buy, and no local medical staff. You can bring people in, but you also have to bring in everything to support them as well as provide your own transportation and a continuous stream of bribes. You can buy food and bring it in, but there is absolutely no way to distribute it to the people that need it; no roads or transportation or fuel or repairs, and all the food that you do manage to bribe someone with an old Toyota to deliver to their friends undercuts the very fragile local farming economy. That's the problem, there is money, but no way to spend it that does much good. You could give everyone $10, but they could not buy anything with it.
 
2011-01-11 09:01:38 PM  
Haiti is like a sick animal that needs to be put down. Just end their suffering and get it over with already. There is no fixing the situation over there no matter how much money is thrown at it.

tomorrowmuseum.com
 
2011-01-11 09:03:40 PM  
This is all the justification that I need to feel good about not donating anything. Now I can eat my just-grilled sirloin and sip on my cold beer without having my conscience bother me.
 
2011-01-11 09:15:47 PM  
This is why I don't donate.

/don't pay taxes, either
 
2011-01-11 09:19:05 PM  
I don't donate to non-local charities. Mostly because of this, but also because charity starts at home. You should see my video game collection.
 
2011-01-11 09:19:14 PM  
Is it hanging out with the Red Cross 9/11 relief fund money?
 
2011-01-11 09:21:49 PM  
You want to see your money? Look at the left wrist:

eartodastreetz.com
 
2011-01-11 09:24:15 PM  
Is there a wall dividing Hispaniola or something? Life in the Dominican Republic doesn't seem to be great, but I don't understand why there is such a huge difference between the two countries.
 
2011-01-11 09:26:47 PM  
Scottathon: Is there a wall dividing Hispaniola or something? Life in the Dominican Republic doesn't seem to be great, but I don't understand why there is such a huge difference between the two countries.

Read Collapse by Jared Diamond, that pretty-much explains it.
 
2011-01-11 09:31:03 PM  
The Angry Hand of God: Nope. Don't seem to remember donating money or giving a crap in the first place.

second. Well, actually I gave a crap, but I figured I'd do as much good for Haiti buying beer with the money as I would donating the cash.
 
2011-01-11 09:39:35 PM  
i remember being so grief stricken after the tsnami i decided to send a hundred bucks over the the internet,followed all the links and when i finally got thru all the red cross bullshiat,found out my donation was funnelled thru the united way. the united way with a 96% adminstration fee. decided then and there that all my charitable donations would be giving buskers a fiver when i saw them. screw professional fundraisers,at least the busker got 100% of my donation.
and haiti is a shiathole feeding upon its own poor,as are most poor countrys. most of the help the public trys to send them only winds up enriching the already wealthy among them.its kinda sad,but ive given up on trying to save the world. the only thing you save is some manical despot.
 
2011-01-11 09:52:19 PM  
It also made a lot of rich people richer.....
 
2011-01-11 09:52:52 PM  
porterm: i remember being so grief stricken after the tsnami i decided to send a hundred bucks over the the internet,followed all the links and when i finally got thru all the red cross bullshiat,found out my donation was funnelled thru the united way. the united way with a 96% adminstration fee. decided then and there that all my charitable donations would be giving buskers a fiver when i saw them. screw professional fundraisers,at least the busker got 100% of my donation.
and haiti is a shiathole feeding upon its own poor,as are most poor countrys. most of the help the public trys to send them only winds up enriching the already wealthy among them.its kinda sad,but ive given up on trying to save the world. the only thing you save is some manical despot.


That's why I only donate to the Anglosphere.
 
2011-01-11 10:03:50 PM  
Red Cross: "We through enough money down that shiat hole. We'll save the rest for civilization. Who would blame us?"
 
Ral
2011-01-11 10:08:00 PM  
Scottathon: Is there a wall dividing Hispaniola or something? Life in the Dominican Republic doesn't seem to be great, but I don't understand why there is such a huge difference between the two countries.

Read this article and all will become clear.

Basically, French settlers muscled their way onto what used to be a Spanish colonial island, and the resident Spanish descendants resisted. Haiti has repeatedly attempted to forcibly unify the entire island, which involves invasion of the eastern side. They're too poor to do it now, but the Dominican Republic regards Haiti as a bunch of invaders and they are treated like subhumans. It has less to do with race than with the history between them.
 
2011-01-11 10:08:47 PM  
Hard to build when nobody knows who owns what land. Its a sad state, but the earthquake didn't destroy Haiti.
 
2011-01-11 10:20:40 PM  
logruszed: You want to see your money? Look at the left wrist:

A Swatch? They're still around?
 
2011-01-11 10:31:00 PM  
Actually, my donation DID get to the people. I supported Partners in Health (which had already been working in Haiti for a long time) and was part of a fundraiser that involved a bunch of online fandoms coming together to bid on awesome prizes. It raised $123,000 in two weeks and sent five cargo planes of medical supplies: Link (new window)

/I don't generally donate to the normal big guys either.
 
2011-01-11 10:47:56 PM  
Scottathon: Is there a wall dividing Hispaniola or something? Life in the Dominican Republic doesn't seem to be great, but I don't understand why there is such a huge difference between the two countries.

Ok now think Mexico and USA
 
2011-01-11 11:01:46 PM  
logruszed: You want to see your money? Look at the left wrist:

The watch is now diamonds (new window)!.
 
2011-01-11 11:03:10 PM  
The Angry Hand of God: Nope. Don't seem to remember donating money or giving a crap in the first place.

ITT: A bunch of cold-hearted self-entitled assholes who don't realize how f*cking lucky they are to be born in the richest country in the world.

Go f*ck yourself.
 
2011-01-11 11:27:56 PM  
Well, at least we know where it is.

Now if only we could find those palates of cash shipped off to Iraq...
 
2011-01-11 11:54:00 PM  
RockIsDead: Well, how many liberal, lefty, hippie, commie, Al Gore, pot smoking, dumbocrap, libbylibbylibbydieleftylib mud cookies could they possibly eat?


WHEW!! Glad I was here to fill in some of the words you strangely forgot to add to that HILARIOUS statement.
 
2011-01-12 12:00:40 AM  
Thunderpipes: Haiti charges charities 40% tax on anything they import. I could not believe it, they deserve to starve. The charities have to make a choice between aid and paying cash, it is unreal.

where did you pull that from?
 
2011-01-12 01:15:32 AM  
moothemagiccow: Scottathon: Is there a wall dividing Hispaniola or something? Life in the Dominican Republic doesn't seem to be great, but I don't understand why there is such a huge difference between the two countries.

Ok now think Mexico and USA



Contrary to very widespread belief, Mexico is a fairly wealthy nation, having a trillion dollar economy which currently ranks 14th in the world.

It may be especially interesting to note that they have a higher GDP per capita than the much vaunted "super economic power house", "world power" and "owner of the U.S." - China.
 
2011-01-12 01:31:04 AM  
Well, THAT was $10 well spent. :-(
 
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