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(Some Guy)   Will minor experiments in time-travel really get you attacked by urban dinosaurs?   (shadowlocked.com) divider line 47
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2011-01-11 08:31:16 AM  
Pedosaurus Rex approves.
 
2011-01-11 08:33:47 AM  
www.myconfinedspace.com

/hot like a time vortex
 
2011-01-11 08:41:33 AM  
DirtyDeadGhostofEbenezerCooke: Pedosaurus Rex approves.

sonofa...

i309.photobucket.com

Visual AIDS
 
2011-01-11 08:45:06 AM  
That article read more like a [Showbiz] article than a [Geek] one...
 
2011-01-11 08:57:08 AM  
I don't know.
All I know is don't tell Thomas Granger.

/obscure?
 
2011-01-11 09:37:47 AM  
I only go by the Timerider rules.
 
2011-01-11 09:39:09 AM  
No, it did not.
 
2011-01-11 10:14:37 AM  
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2011-01-11 12:20:52 PM  
as explored in the end of eternity, we can change our location in time but never the world we live in lest paradox's form. the only choice we have is to hop realities from one to the next forever making changes to switch what realty were in till we reach the result we wanted for us. if you go back in time to stop a bomb from going off it will still go off in your original time, but you will of saved one alternate reality from death.
 
2011-01-11 12:22:07 PM  
Not yet, but you must bring your own weapons. Safety not guaranteed. I have only done this once before.
 
2011-01-11 12:23:08 PM  
Yes, but the first episode will be entirely in black-and-white because some idiot decided to junk the original copies.

/Still bitter
//Venusian Ka-ra-te
 
2011-01-11 12:23:18 PM  
Depends on what comes through the anomaly.
 
2011-01-11 12:26:59 PM  
BizarreMan: Depends on what comes through the anomaly.

It's definitely not going to be anyone in the original cast, I can tell you that much.

/Law & Order: Dinosaur
 
2011-01-11 12:30:15 PM  
I wish, I wish, I hadn't squished that fish.
 
2011-01-11 12:32:59 PM  
The Sound of Thunder movie started off OK but then it turned into a ridiculous knock-off of Jurassic Park II.

One question: so you changed time in such a way that dinosaurs are still alive today. How did humans evolve? And how did they build New York City? And if they managed to build New York City, why didn't they manage to keep the jungle down? Or does time travel changes only affect living organisms, leaving buildings intact, like some kind of Neutron Time Bomb?

In the original short story, by Isaac Asimov, which at least attempted to be scientifically correct, killing the insect led to a world in which the wrong guy won the Election.

That would have been topical. They could have had some fun with that. In the movie, it leads to the plot of a Spiderman TV cartoon: jungle overwhelms New York City, hero fights the jungle and wins.
 
2011-01-11 12:34:58 PM  
pollardy: as explored in the end of eternity, we can change our location in time but never the world we live in lest paradox's form. the only choice we have is to hop realities from one to the next forever making changes to switch what realty were in till we reach the result we wanted for us. if you go back in time to stop a bomb from going off it will still go off in your original time, but you will of saved one alternate reality from death.

Not exactly. Going back in time also means you are switching universes from one where the event happened to one where the event was prevented by you. The real question is does your "time machine" really hop universes or does it really create a new universe? Also if you are dimension hoping is there two of you in one dimension or do the natural laws preclude that? If they preclude that did you prime and you prime + 1 switch places or did you just destroy you prime + 1?
 
2011-01-11 12:36:29 PM  
PC LOAD LETTER & Bob Loblaw's

Thanks boys

/smokes ciggy
 
2011-01-11 12:38:55 PM  
Coming soon: TV remakes with dinosaurs, not unlike Jane Austen with Zombies.

Married with Children. Al gets no respect until his gas takes out a squad of super-intelligent velociraptors.

Fear factor. Celebrities have to dive into a dinosaur turd bigger than the show's host.

The Brady Bunch. The Brady family mourns when Cindy is carried off by a pterodon. Alice dates the man who supplies her iguanodon eggs.

The Flintstones. Reality show. Fred and Barney swap jobs with Wilma and Betty. Everybody learns that it is not a good idea to fark around with dinosaurs that you aren't trained to operate.
 
2011-01-11 12:44:15 PM  
brantgoose: The Sound of Thunder movie started off OK but then it turned into a ridiculous knock-off of Jurassic Park II.

One question: so you changed time in such a way that dinosaurs are still alive today. How did humans evolve? And how did they build New York City? And if they managed to build New York City, why didn't they manage to keep the jungle down? Or does time travel changes only affect living organisms, leaving buildings intact, like some kind of Neutron Time Bomb?

In the original short story, by Isaac Asimov, which at least attempted to be scientifically correct, killing the insect led to a world in which the wrong guy won the Election.

That would have been topical. They could have had some fun with that. In the movie, it leads to the plot of a Spiderman TV cartoon: jungle overwhelms New York City, hero fights the jungle and wins.


Even stuff like that "Any small change to the past screws up the present!" seems silly to me, because history seems to have a sort of.. momentum to it. For instance, I think WW1 might have happened even if Franz Ferdinand *hadn't* been assasinated. Now, how did that pratchett quote go?..

Shoot the dictator and prevent the war? But the dictator is merely the tip of the whole festering boil of social pus from which dictators emerge; shoot one, and there'll be another one along in a minute. Shoot him too? Why not shoot everyone and invade Poland? In fifty years', thirty years', ten years' time the world will be very nearly back on its old course. History always has a great weight of inertia. -Lords and Ladies.

'Course, that doesn't mean I don't think it's impossible to alter history (if history could be changed), I think you'd just need to find certain 'lynchpin' events.
 
2011-01-11 12:44:54 PM  
Can we roundhouse kick and throw empty boxes at them?

www.cyberpunkreview.com
 
2011-01-11 12:54:46 PM  
strangeguitar: I don't know.
All I know is don't tell Thomas Granger.

/obscure?


Not at all. At least not to those who follow the history of buggery in America.

Ther was a youth whose name was Thomas Granger; he was servant to an honest man of Duxbery, being aboute 16 or 17 years of age. (His father and mother lived at the same time at Sityate.) He was this year detected of buggery (and indicted for the same) with a mare, a cowe, tow goats, five sheep, 2 calves, and a turkey. Horrible it is to mention, but the truth of the historie requires it. He was first discovered by one that accidentally saw his lewd practise towards the mare. (I forbear perticulers.) Being upon it examined and committed, in the end he not only confest the fact with that beast at that time, but sundrie times before, and at severall times with all the rest of the forenamed in his indictmente; and this his free-confession was not only in private to the magistrates, (though at first he strived to deney it,) but to sundrie, both ministers and others, and afterwards, upon his indictemente, to the whole court and jury; and confirmed it at his execution. And whereas some of the sheep could not so well be knowne by his description of them, others with them were brought before him, and he declared which were they, and which were not. And accordingly he was cast by the jury, and condemned, and after executed about the 8 of Sept 1642. A very sade spectakle it was; for first the mare, and then the cowe, and the rest of the lesser catle, were kild before his face, according to the law, Levit: 20.15 and then he him selfe was executed.* The catle were all cast into a great and large pitte that was digged of purposs for them, and no use made of any part of them.


/and in this battery?
//uh... 12 volts
 
2011-01-11 12:55:39 PM  
ianthetexan: Can we roundhouse kick and throw empty boxes at them?

I'm ten minutes too late....*kicks ground*

Aw, who cares

orignauxmoose.com
 
2011-01-11 01:06:10 PM  
I wish I could go back in time ten minutes and read a different article instead.

What a vapid, pointless waste of, ahem, time. Nothing but the questions raised by movies you'd have to have lived under a rock not to have seen, and a few Doctor Who episodes thrown in for self-serving measure. Then, at the end, he just shrugs and says "who knows" in an abrupt ending. Read like a 7th grade essay.
 
2011-01-11 01:08:28 PM  
Just don't step on a butterfly, or else we'll all devolve.
 
2011-01-11 01:11:03 PM  
brantgoose: The Sound of Thunder movie started off OK but then it turned into a ridiculous knock-off of Jurassic Park II.

One question: so you changed time in such a way that dinosaurs are still alive today. How did humans evolve? And how did they build New York City? And if they managed to build New York City, why didn't they manage to keep the jungle down? Or does time travel changes only affect living organisms, leaving buildings intact, like some kind of Neutron Time Bomb?

In the original short story, by Isaac Asimov, which at least attempted to be scientifically correct, killing the insect led to a world in which the wrong guy won the Election.

That would have been topical. They could have had some fun with that. In the movie, it leads to the plot of a Spiderman TV cartoon: jungle overwhelms New York City, hero fights the jungle and wins.


it was all falling back, eventually there would have been no new york city
 
2011-01-11 01:16:37 PM  
*GO!!!* *GO!!!* *GO!!!* *GO!!!*

upload.wikimedia.org
 
2011-01-11 01:22:55 PM  
At least you weren't sent back into time due to some Assiti art
 
2011-01-11 01:30:09 PM  
brantgoose: Fear factor. Celebrities have to dive into a dinosaur turd bigger than the show's host.

a bigger turd than joe rogan? good luck, friend.
 
2011-01-11 01:38:40 PM  
www.sinkingship.ca

Your child's first introduction to paranoid schizophrenia.
 
2011-01-11 01:46:29 PM  
closed timelike curves ^

/mmmmmm Lea Thompson curves
 
2011-01-11 01:52:43 PM  
Nilatir: Your child's first introduction to paranoid schizophrenia.

I have been watching that show for the past 2 days and am watching it RIGHT NOW!

/Yes, I have a four year old boy and have been snowed in
//help
 
2011-01-11 02:12:13 PM  
sxacho: Not at all. At least not to those who follow the history of buggery in America.

i'm sorry; buggery is british for what, now?
 
2011-01-11 02:40:00 PM  
kagemaru026: sxacho: Not at all. At least not to those who follow the history of buggery in America.

i'm sorry; buggery is british for what, now?


the buttsex is what google tells me

funny how the original post was about a guy in the movie primer, not a guy who was moving in someone else's heinie.
 
2011-01-11 02:55:17 PM  
brantgoose: In the original short story, by Isaac Asimov

Ray Bradbury.
 
2011-01-11 03:01:09 PM  
Time travel? Urban dinosaur attacks?

www.qwantz.com
 
2011-01-11 03:01:44 PM  
Possibly,

but they are more likely to call you up first and bring over a case of sierra mist.
 
2011-01-11 03:11:48 PM  
MadUncleEoin: Nilatir: Your child's first introduction to paranoid schizophrenia.

I have been watching that show for the past 2 days and am watching it RIGHT NOW!

/Yes, I have a four year old boy and have been snowed in
//help


HA! Yeah, I feel your pain. My wife got mad at me for trying to explain to my child that Dan doesn't know they're just his imagination. :D
 
2011-01-11 03:52:10 PM  

kagemaru026: sxacho: Not at all. At least not to those who follow the history of buggery in America.

i'm sorry; buggery is british for what, now?
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2011-01-11 10:54:11 PM  
Ambitwistor: brantgoose: In the original short story, by Isaac Asimov

Ray Bradbury.


TYME SEFARI INC.
SEFARIS TU ANY YEER EN THE PAST.
YU NAIM THE ANIMALL.
WEE TAEK YU THAIR.
YU SHOOT ITT.

oblig
 
2011-01-12 01:03:52 AM  
Ambitwistor: brantgoose: In the original short story, by Isaac Asimov

Ray Bradbury.


My mistake. It's what we old people call a "dinosaur moment". Er, senior citizen moment. Mind you, I've outlived the Brontosaurus (apatosaurus) and now the Triceratops (ceratosaurus, IIRC), so I may eventually outlive all the dinosaurs of my childhood.
 
2011-01-12 01:10:23 AM  
invictus2: Ambitwistor: brantgoose: In the original short story, by Isaac Asimov

Ray Bradbury.

TYME SEFARI INC.
SEFARIS TU ANY YEER EN THE PAST.
YU NAIM THE ANIMALL.
WEE TAEK YU THAIR.
YU SHOOT ITT.

oblig


Apparently stepping on that butterfly created our universe, where spelling is going to Hell in a handcart thanks to the web, graffiti, and dumb Republican Presidents and VPs like George Bush and Dan Quayle. I wonder if that's why Ray Bradbury wrote A Sound of Thunder instead of Isaac Asimov?

Sometimes I feel like Alice in Alice in Wonderland. I'm not sure if I'm the same person who woke up this morning.
 
d3
2011-01-12 01:32:37 AM  
Suppose you do go back in time. Think about what that means, the very atoms that make up your existence now must exist in 2 places at once. The air/water you have in you today was somewhere else yesterday or a year ago. Screw stepping on butterflies, you've now changed lots of things at a quantum level. You are now in a superposition with everything you ever were and ever will be.

The atoms in you are timeless really. A water molecule you drank could have been drank and recycled around the globe for billions of years. It has never changed, never become more or less than a combination of H2O.
 
2011-01-12 02:58:08 AM  
d3: Suppose you do go back in time. Think about what that means, the very atoms that make up your existence now must exist in 2 places at once. The air/water you have in you today was somewhere else yesterday or a year ago. Screw stepping on butterflies, you've now changed lots of things at a quantum level. You are now in a superposition with everything you ever were and ever will be.

The atoms are arranged in a specific pattern, but the pattern itself, along with the atoms, are not special in any way. (Are they?) Are the interactions of specifically-ordered atomic particles so terribly significant that they cannot exist simultaneously? Would it matter if you bought a bottle of water, and dumped it out into its source before it was even bottled? Or ate bacon before it was even born? What if I introduced my cat to his great-grandmother?

Don't mean to be a jerk, but what is it about humans specifically that will cock up time and space?
 
2011-01-12 04:20:30 AM  
Duck_of_Doom: d3: Suppose you do go back in time. Think about what that means, the very atoms that make up your existence now must exist in 2 places at once. The air/water you have in you today was somewhere else yesterday or a year ago. Screw stepping on butterflies, you've now changed lots of things at a quantum level. You are now in a superposition with everything you ever were and ever will be.

The atoms are arranged in a specific pattern, but the pattern itself, along with the atoms, are not special in any way. (Are they?) Are the interactions of specifically-ordered atomic particles so terribly significant that they cannot exist simultaneously? Would it matter if you bought a bottle of water, and dumped it out into its source before it was even bottled? Or ate bacon before it was even born? What if I introduced my cat to his great-grandmother?

Don't mean to be a jerk, but what is it about humans specifically that will cock up time and space?


The desire to create and use time travel to fark their mother & be their own father.
 
2011-01-12 12:35:57 PM  
lvdata2: The desire to create and use time travel to fark their Grandmother & be their own Grandfather.

That only works if You're from Betelgeuse
 
2011-01-12 02:28:40 PM  
Duck_of_Doom: d3: Suppose you do go back in time. Think about what that means, the very atoms that make up your existence now must exist in 2 places at once. The air/water you have in you today was somewhere else yesterday or a year ago.

Given that a positron/electron annihilation is mathematically equivalent to an electron emitting an energetic enough pair of photons to force it backward in time (i.e. a positron moving forward in time is equivalent to an electron moving backward), that's really not much of a problem. Mathematically, that electron could get bounced back in time, then bounced back forward.
 
2011-01-12 08:54:10 PM  
All these replies and no mention of "Dinosaurs Attack!"?

www.wired.com

\Loved those cards
\\Still have a mostly complete set back home
\\\"Helen, I'll love you always... "
 
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