BuckTurgidson: Does this doc come from the same long-distance-video-diagnosis school as Bill Frist?

not quite. from his bio:

He has trained FBI/police hostage negotiators, been a UCLA professor of psychiatry for more than twenty five years, practiced as a clinical psychiatrist before transferring his skills to the business and non-profit world as an executive coach, leadership advisor and team building expert.

is there any way that i can use this diagnosis to vilify my political rivals, because that would be really convenient for me. thanks in advance.

Believe it or not, I'm walking on air.

Sybarite: Believe it or not, I'm walking on air.

oh man, thanks for that. i have been whistling that since reading the headline and it's killing me.

Barakku: Maybe I should stop using periods, they're so bloody.

Well, TFA at least has the good sense to use a numbered list rather than bullet points.

I saw this morning where some British paper had already blamed the shooting on the right.
What the heck is wrong with people?
The guy was crazy and anything can set off crazy people. Sometimes it is a book, an infatuation with a movie star, rock music, their parents....the list of possibilities is endless.
This is not political, it is life and living with other human beings. Now they will come up with some new gun law in an attempt to legislate the danger away. It is not happening. The only way to not ever have this happen again is to get rid of all the people in the world. Sadly, I think that there are some that would consider this a wonderful way of stopping it.

If the guy didn't have a gun, he would have a knife or a brick or a lighted match. It is really hard to stop a deranged person from achieving his goal.

cehlen: If the guy didn't have a gun, he would have a knife or a brick or a lighted match. It is really hard to stop a deranged person from achieving his goal.

to be fair, it's a little easier to stop a guy who is trying to bash people with a brick than it is to stop a guy with a semi-automatic glock with an extended clip that he bought a sporting goods store.

Dude was crazy and crazy people can be set off from most anything...like a book (Catcher in the Rye) or movie, or media, etc.

It's too easy to play the blame game rather than place the blame on the shooter...the bottom line is that dude had issues.

slayer199: Dude was crazy and crazy people can be set off from most anything...like a book (Catcher in the Rye) or movie, or media, etc.

It's too easy to play the blame game rather than place the blame on the shooter...the bottom line is that dude had issues.

i hope everyone who comes in here to assign blame so quickly remembers how people tried to take away their video games and music after columbine.

IdBeCrazyIf: thomps: cehlen: If the guy didn't have a gun, he would have a knife or a brick or a lighted match. It is really hard to stop a deranged person from achieving his goal.

to be fair, it's a little easier to stop a guy who is trying to bash people with a brick than it is to stop a guy with a semi-automatic glock with an extended clip that he bought a sporting goods store.

Common household items when combined in the correct manner can make a mighty fine explosive.

Crazy will find a way, there really is no way around that.

absolutely, i'm not arguing with that. i have to believe that homemade explosives are a little bulkier and less precise than a concealed hand gun though.

slayer199: Dude was crazy and crazy people can be set off from most anything...like a book (Catcher in the Rye) or movie, or media, etc.

It's too easy to play the blame game rather than place the blame on the shooter...the bottom line is that dude had issues.

I'm kind of interested to see what set the guy off and not just write this off as a crazy guy who would have done something like this no matter what. If rhetoric from either side was what this guy clung to, then it would be nice to look at it and see if we could change something so other crazies don't follow suit.

IdBeCrazyIf: thomps: absolutely, i'm not arguing with that. i have to believe that homemade explosives are a little bulkier and less precise than a concealed hand gun though.

Potassium Chloride when refined down to Potassium Chlorate and then mixed with a suitable medium can make a very powerful high order explosive. It's the same shiat that was used in WW1 and WW2 to take buildings down and requires at least a grade 3 blasting cap.

We should be thankful that there is very little truly insane crazy people in this country willing to go to lengths to hurt people because it really is SUPER easy to make that shiat.

Scary right?

/things you learn in chemistry class in high school

jesus, i just googled "grade 3 blasting cap" (i'm pretty sure that puts me on a government list of some sort) hoping that it wouldn't be something you could just pull off a firework. i guess my only solace is in the fact that you're more likely to blow yourself up using that stuff as opposed to just buying a gun.

shivashakti: Rainbowtyedye: I've yet to hear anything that he knew her personally and that it was a personal attack, so it's got to be political.

Supposedly, he was mad at her for not answering his nonsensical question at a previous event.

an event that took place in 2007. and apparently he's been fixated on her ever since.

cehlen: If the guy didn't have a gun, he would have a knife or a brick or a lighted match. It is really hard to stop a deranged person from achieving his goal.

What about a pointed stick?

Believe it or not, George isn't at home...

Rainbowtyedye: Thanks shivashakti and thomps, I was unaware of that. Told ya I haven't been paying attention. So it was political, but nothing to do with the teabaggers or other nutjobs out there. Amiright?

from what i can tell, it's only political if you consider a politician refusing to answer the question "How do you know words mean anything?" to be a political issue.

But seriously, tone down the heated rhetoric. I know I am allowed to go to DC with an assault rifle but that was never a message I wanted to send to either side.

Maybe we should throw marshmallows at any politician who even suggests we use violence.

I read somewhere that he was upset that she ignored a question he submitted to a press conference of hers...two years ago. The question..."What good is government if words have no meaning?"

Apparently, she didn't know how to answer crazy. And so he stewed for two years. And then...presto...he snaps.

shivashakti: Rainbowtyedye: I've yet to hear anything that he knew her personally and that it was a personal attack, so it's got to be political.

Supposedly, he was mad at her for not answering his nonsensical question at a previous event.

This.

Wow, TFA was an insightful read... but, oh hell no! Let's continue to blame Sarah Palin! Come on! This... is.... FARK!

Dude was crazy...so why was it so easy for him to get a gun?

Maybe we should take a look at THAT?

jenlen: Wow, TFA was an insightful read... but, oh hell no! Let's continue to blame Sarah Palin! Come on! This... is.... FARK!

Continue? I never started so how could I continue.

Of course if the shoe fits...

Hollywood Cole: I watched the coverage of this today on the CBS Morning Show and I have one question:

Why the fark does it matter that the 9 year old little girl who was killed by this piece of shiat was born on 9/11/01? Can anyone explain to me the relevance between her being born on 9/11 and her being gunned down please?

Because..Rudy Giuliani.

UNC_Samurai: vernonFL: Dude was crazy...so why was it so easy for him to get a gun?

Maybe we should take a look at THAT?

Nobody, regardless of political affiliation, likes to admit we are absolutely terrible at mental health treatment and screening in this country. It's the same reason the VT shooter slipped through the cracks.

Do you want a situation where any time you visit a mental health professional, the nature of your condition and treatment are reported to the government so that they can decide whether or not, in their opinion, you can buy/own a gun?

I liked this article.

The way people were trying to find some sort of external cause for Jared Loughner's actions reminds me a lot of the discussion that followed the Columbine shootings. People wanted to blame violent movies, video games and music. There's little difference in trying to blame Marilyn Manson for what those two kids did than there is in trying to find blame in Sarah Palin for this guy.

Most of it strikes me as crass political opportunism. I'm not Palin supporter, but to make a huge deal out of a terrible coincidence and her lack of tact and try to connect it to these deaths is not helping.

thomps: i hope everyone who comes in here to assign blame so quickly remembers how people tried to take away their video games and music after columbine.

How easily people forget that both of those kids were troubled for sometime before the rampage.

dahmers love zombie: Do you want a situation where any time you visit a mental health professional, the nature of your condition and treatment are reported to the government so that they can decide whether or not, in their opinion, you can buy/own a gun

I am not a mental health professional, and after watching his Youtube videos, I can determine that he should not own a gun.

FlashHarry: He has trained FBI/police hostage negotiators, been a UCLA professor of psychiatry for more than twenty five years, practiced as a clinical psychiatrist before transferring his skills to the business and non-profit world as an executive coach, leadership advisor and team building expert.

Ooh, team building expert. I'll bet he could also tell us how to properly do a "trust fall".