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(Chicago Breaking News)   Boeing's sales taking off like the A380   (chicagobreakingbusiness.com) divider line 24
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2011-01-06 12:49:50 PM
I don't get it.
 
2011-01-06 12:56:33 PM
You mean like the 787, subby?
 
2011-01-06 12:58:30 PM
Why is this cool?
 
2011-01-06 01:01:20 PM
factoryconnection: Why is this cool?

It's a blow against demon Airbus.

/Airbus: scarebus!!!11
 
2011-01-06 01:02:46 PM
Never mind, I just read the part where total deliveries actually dropped from 2009, instead of the increase in orders.
 
2011-01-06 01:04:46 PM
Architectronica: I don't get it.

I think it's a reference to the fact that the A380 (made by Airbus) is actually flying, and the long-awaited Boeing 787 has yet to be delivered after a series of production mishaps (and a fire during a recent test-flight).
 
2011-01-06 01:10:20 PM
Makes no sense. Airbus engines falling out of the sky like dead blackbirds. Boeing or I aint going hurrrr durrrrr ELEVENTY!!!!111
 
2011-01-06 01:56:17 PM
One time, Airbus stole my lunch money and picked me last for kickball.
 
2011-01-06 01:57:38 PM
Are this year's sales gonna be fly like a G-6?
 
2011-01-06 02:06:55 PM
I've never been on an A380, but I do like the A319's that Frontier, et al are flying. Much nicer than the trash most of the other airlines fly.
 
2011-01-06 02:21:34 PM
Like a Quantas A380? With bits and pieces falling off?
 
2011-01-06 02:26:18 PM
I flew on a Frontier A319 recently, thing made all sorts of weird noises...
 
2011-01-06 02:29:31 PM
Due to that little "incident" Rolls Royce has derated the particular engines that Quantas is using to a maximum of 75 takeoffs at full power before they must be replaced. SEVENTY FIVE.

You won't see Quantas A380's flying out of LAX for a long time, if ever again.
 
2011-01-06 02:44:02 PM
BigTuna: Due to that little "incident" Rolls Royce has derated the particular engines that Quantas is using to a maximum of 75 takeoffs at full power before they must be replaced. SEVENTY FIVE.

You won't see Quantas A380's flying out of LAX for a long time, if ever again.


What, you don't think it's reasonable to require overhaul of an engine once or twice a month? Geez, you're pretty picky.
 
2011-01-06 02:52:27 PM
... Nice. Good planes ...
 
2011-01-06 02:57:04 PM
BigTuna: Due to that little "incident" Rolls Royce has derated the particular engines that Quantas is using to a maximum of 75 takeoffs at full power before they must be replaced. SEVENTY FIVE.

You won't see Quantas A380's flying out of LAX for a long time, if ever again.


OR hopefully by the middle of January, if the Airline is to be believed.

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2011-01-06 03:08:07 PM
fo_sho!: BigTuna: Due to that little "incident" Rolls Royce has derated the particular engines that Quantas is using to a maximum of 75 takeoffs at full power before they must be replaced. SEVENTY FIVE.

You won't see Quantas A380's flying out of LAX for a long time, if ever again.

OR hopefully by the middle of January, if the Airline is to be believed.

Link (new window)


Interesting. I don't know if it's wise for Airbus to take Rolls' word at face value at this point. Both companies have a strong financial interest in getting the planes back to normal operations, Rolls especially if they want to avoid a massive lawsuit. Looks like I better go find an update to the story.
 
2011-01-06 04:19:24 PM
A little more on the the A380 fiasco - http://www.flightglobal.com/blogs/wings-down-under/2010/12/fixing-rolls-royces-d isposable-a380-engines.html

"Rolls in 2000 quoted Qantas a list price of US$12.85 million per Trent 900. If four engines were only to be used 75 times their cost would be $685,333 per flight"

So basically LAX has a shorter runway that requires the A380 to drop full power to the engines, that causes more stress/pressure thru the intertubes and forces the engine to be replaced every 75 usages of hitting full power, otherwise the engine is okay.

On top of that there are 3 variants a/b/c of the engine, Qantas which operated the C variant (afaik) had that tube failure that delivered oil to the bearing, which was not supposed to happen, so they're basically throwing RR under the bus and telling them to replace it free of charge.

http://www.flightglobal.com/articles/2010/12/14/350902/qantas-details-history-o f -rolls-royce-trent-900-variants.html

//the more u know
 
2011-01-06 04:39:21 PM
Omegamerc: which was not supposed to happen, so they're basically throwing RR under the bus and telling them to replace it free of charge.

How is Qantas (I'm going to spell it correctly now) throwing RR under the bus?? They sold Qantas an enhanced engine that can't perform at the promised specs.
 
2011-01-06 05:03:16 PM
So profits took off, suffered a cascade computer failure and was able to return safely to pre-takeoff numbers due only to the skill of the flight crew?

I'm not following the metaphor here.
 
2011-01-06 05:49:34 PM
MVEAlpha: I flew on a Frontier A319 recently, thing made all sorts of weird noises...

They make kinda weird noises on takeoff, it's true. I dunno what they are, because they persist after landing gear is retracted, but they disappear after about 10 minutes and, well, I gots me some DirecTV and headphones, so what the hell do I care?

/avoid Frontier's regional partners
//Embraer jets are ghetto jets
 
2011-01-06 05:57:07 PM
Rolls Royce will recover from this issue with the A380 and the Trent 900. I mean, just today it was announced that British Airways signed a $5 billion dollar deal for Trent 900s (for A380) and Trent 1000s (for 787). Which means that BA is screwed both ways, since both engines had failures.

BA is seriously being to patriotic; it's been RR engines that have been problematic the last few years. Trent 800 powered 777s were grounded a couple years back that required to have a fix since 1 failed on landing approach (a BA aircraft, ironically); the Trent 1000 ingested itself on a Boeing 787 test aircraft; and now the A380 Trent 900 that blew up for Quantas.

Meanwhile, GE90s run perfectly on the 777, GE's GENx has had no problems on the 787, PW 4000s have had no problems on the 777 or A330 (along with GE CF6 for A330), and the Engine Alliance (GE and PW) GP7200 has better fuel economy and reliability than the Trent 900 for the A380.
 
2011-01-06 08:10:38 PM
m1ke: Are this year's sales gonna be fly like a G-6?

One of these days, I'm going to have to try getting slizzard with sizzyrup.
 
2011-01-06 10:33:01 PM
So you're saying at some point in the near future, Boeing's sales are going to crash and burn, thus completing a ritual of un-prosecuted pre-meditated killing of passengers world wide?
 
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