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2010-12-31 12:24:48 PM
The same could be said of pedophiles...
 
2010-12-31 01:43:18 PM
Interesting...they didn't kill the dog, because it was doing exactly what nature told it to do for non-healing wounds.
 
2010-12-31 01:43:48 PM
eqtworld: The same could be said of pedophiles...

Pedophiles don't fark your infections away.
 
2010-12-31 01:44:04 PM
The girl doesn't need the toes, the owners save on dog food...
 
2010-12-31 01:44:59 PM
t2.gstatic.com
Not impressed.
 
2010-12-31 01:45:29 PM
A dingo ate my baby....
 
2010-12-31 01:45:44 PM
FTA: "The girl yelled that her foot was bleeding when her mother came into her room to wake her up for school. The woman saw all of the toes were missing from the girl's left foot and administered first aid while her husband called paramedics . . .

the girl suffers from spina bifida, which "causes numbness in her lower extremities (and she) has basically no sensation beneath the waist.
"

Wow. That must have been one a heck of a wound.
 
2010-12-31 01:46:00 PM
That is surprisingly awesome, good boy.
 
2010-12-31 01:46:19 PM
farm4.static.flickr.com
 
2010-12-31 01:46:35 PM
Antimatter: Interesting...they didn't kill the dog, because it was doing exactly what nature told it to do for non-healing wounds.

Pitbulls also do what they would do in nature and eat things that run from them. Should they all be pardoned?
 
2010-12-31 01:47:17 PM
We have several herds of wild Labrador Retrievers 'round here.
 
2010-12-31 01:47:58 PM
Antimatter: Interesting...they didn't kill the dog, because it was doing exactly what nature told it to do for non-healing wounds.

Thanks for clarifying that. The headline was confusing.
 
2010-12-31 01:49:18 PM
Much to my dismay,my dog tries to lick my feet when I am in the bed. I should be worried.
 
2010-12-31 01:50:15 PM
corronchilejano: eqtworld: The same could be said of pedophiles...

Pedophiles don't fark your infections away.


How do you know? They might if you ask them nicely.
 
2010-12-31 01:50:54 PM
Probably_From_Texas: Much to my dismay,my dog tries to lick my feet when I am in the bed. I should be worried.

Only if you have a weeping, festering wound. Or wear bacon slippers.
 
2010-12-31 01:51:35 PM
Sucks about her toes. But from the sound of it she wasn't using them anyway. Also, by the time they use stem cells to cure spinal, they'll also be able to regrow her toes.

Point of the matter is, common sense won out.
But I wonder what the family would do with the dog knowing it ate some toes.
 
2010-12-31 01:51:39 PM
Walker:Pitbulls also do what they would do in nature and eat things that run from them. Should they all be pardoned?

Yes they should, since ignorance about them runs rampant as you so aptly demonstrate.
 
2010-12-31 01:52:04 PM
Seems to happen a lot:

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2010-12-31 01:52:55 PM
Well, the parents wouldn't do what had to be done, so somebody had to take the initiative.

"Who's a good dog? You're a good dog."
 
2010-12-31 01:55:37 PM
Ewww, can you imagine how bad that wound had to have been for the dog to chew off the infection? I can imagine the dog sitting around for weeks watching nothing getting done and then sighing and crawling under the blanket. The parents are the ones who need to be investigated here, not the dog.
 
2010-12-31 01:57:45 PM
Antimatter: Interesting...they didn't kill the dog, because it was doing exactly what nature told it to do for non-healing wounds.

I have seen stories where dogs were able to detect incipient gangrene (IIRC in the feet of diabetics), and have done the same thing.

The fact that they have an instinct to do this is amazing.
 
2010-12-31 02:01:34 PM
Antimatter: Interesting...they didn't kill the dog, because it was doing exactly what nature told it to do for non-healing wounds.

Yet the article still leads with a photo of a dog's snarling, vicious, slavering mouth, as if this black Lab had attacked the little girl.

Farking media.
 
2010-12-31 02:04:51 PM
gadian: Ewww, can you imagine how bad that wound had to have been for the dog to chew off the infection? I can imagine the dog sitting around for weeks watching nothing getting done and then sighing and crawling under the blanket. The parents are the ones who need to be investigated here, not the dog.

Yeah, especially since the girl had had it for a YEAR.

/ Am inclined to think that it was an injury, rather than a wound. Who would intentionally harm a child with spinal bifida?

// Picky slashies
 
2010-12-31 02:05:06 PM
Makermook: Yet the article still leads with a photo of a dog's snarling, vicious, slavering mouth, as if this black Lab had attacked the little girl.

Farking media.


Well they were going to run with that same scary maw, except with all sorts of blood and viscera on it... but they decided that to best represent the story they should go with the clean, menacing look. Professionals. the lot of 'em.
 
2010-12-31 02:07:06 PM
im confused how there was no trace of blood on the dog... how often do you bite someones toes off and not get blood on your face. maybe the girl bit her own toes off. also if it wasn't bleeding the dog was probably trying to get blood flow going or the limb would have rotted off and been infected.
 
2010-12-31 02:07:14 PM
Cybernetic: Antimatter: Interesting...they didn't kill the dog, because it was doing exactly what nature told it to do for non-healing wounds.

I have seen stories where dogs were able to detect incipient gangrene (IIRC in the feet of diabetics), and have done the same thing.

The fact that they have an instinct to do this is amazing.



Bad case of athlete's foot can get them going too.
 
2010-12-31 02:07:55 PM
Labs tend to do that. Remember that French lady who had the face transplant awhile back? A black lab ate her face off. farking labs. At least pit bulls wait until you're awake to attack you.
 
2010-12-31 02:07:58 PM
Remove the wound? Was it a miracle healer dog?
 
2010-12-31 02:08:33 PM
Sit Ubu, sit
 
2010-12-31 02:12:19 PM
Don't let a dog around a newly circumcised baby either.
 
2010-12-31 02:15:51 PM
Why would someone keep a pet that ate his child.


Some farked up people in this world.
 
2010-12-31 02:21:41 PM
Wow, a lot of cool theories about this genius doctor dog's surgical treatment of the mostly healthy foot by chewing off the toes.

My own theory (which is equally possible) is that the dog is from the future, sent back in time to kill baby Hitler, but it ended up in the wrong place and time so it ate off a helpless kid's toes.
 
2010-12-31 02:28:25 PM
Dog - "Oh my! This toe has a wound on it. Well, I had better eat it lest some dangerous infection should set in. Om nom nom... well that was good, I think I'll have another. Om nom nom... one more couldn't hurt. Om nom nom... well it is the holidays. Om nom nom... One left, might as well. Om nom nom... Phew! I'm full now - feel like a nap."
 
2010-12-31 02:32:15 PM
8thRay: Wow, a lot of cool theories about this genius doctor dog's surgical treatment of the mostly healthy foot by chewing off the toes.

My own theory (which is equally possible) is that the dog is from the future, sent back in time to kill baby Hitler, but it ended up in the wrong place and time so it ate off a helpless kid's toes.


Close, that WAS baby Hitler II- Hitlina, but all her genocide crimes against a minority were ACTUALLY committed by her toes. Well, not literally of course, but her toes were crucial to the whole plot.
 
2010-12-31 02:32:44 PM
Holy crap, probably not a good idea to have a pet sleep with her if she has partial paralysis.

But anyway, reminded me of something that happened to my brother recently. He had a scab on his arm, and out of the blue his cat bit into it and ripped the scabbed off his arm and ate it. Freaking hilarious and disgusting at the same time, no damage done but he said it hurt.
 
2010-12-31 02:34:11 PM
Ah toed you it wuz infected!
 
2010-12-31 02:35:02 PM
because....you don't eat a little girl like that....all at once
 
2010-12-31 02:35:17 PM
thedooropens,

I got to "well it is the holidays"....

/keyboard, one each, you owe me!
 
2010-12-31 02:36:16 PM
The dog was just trying to help. Sounds like she would have needed her foot amputated eventually anyway.


Nogale:
/ Am inclined to think that it was an injury, rather than a wound. Who would intentionally harm a child with spinal bifida?

// Picky slashies


Wound doesn't mean somebody else did it to you, it simply means there has been a break in the skin of some sort. A paper cut falls under the definition of wound.
 
2010-12-31 02:36:28 PM
Spinal Bifida doesn't sound as poetic as Spinal Meningitis:

Why they wanna see my spine mommy?
Why they wanna see my spine?
It's gonna hurt again mommy
Much worse than last time
Am i gonna see god, mommy?
Am i gonna die?
It really hurts mommy!
Am i gonna die?

Smile on mighty jesus
Spinal bifida got me down
 
2010-12-31 02:38:31 PM
gadian: The parents are the ones who need to be investigated here

for what?

She has also had a sore on her left foot for more than a year that will not heal, despite being examined by doctors and specialists.

sounds to me like they were doing all they could and the dog saved them an expensive amputation procedure.

I'd say get that dog a steak, but he's already full of longpork.
 
2010-12-31 02:40:43 PM
black Labrador retriever

Oh... I see how it is. A dog attack story that isn't about a pit, so the first they thing have to do is make it a race thing.
 
2010-12-31 02:42:22 PM
I see that this was one of the dogs adopted out of Vick's murder-mill. Makes sense.
 
2010-12-31 02:43:22 PM
Nogale: / Am inclined to think that it was an injury, rather than a wound. Who would intentionally harm a child with spinal bifida?


Do you really want to know the answer to that?
 
2010-12-31 02:44:05 PM
I wonder if it was those kind of toes that look like Ms Grundy's nose?
 
2010-12-31 02:52:50 PM
eqtworld: The same could be said of pedophiles...

This made you immediately think of pedophilia and how it's justified? Way to out yourself, scumbag.
 
2010-12-31 02:53:36 PM
This is interesting. When I was a kid, maybe 6 or 7, I had infected toe. I had this tendency to swipe my mom's nail clippers and clip my own nails, and I often took off too much, So I had kind of a swollen/inflamed area, like a really bad hangnail on my big toe. I was dreading telling my mom about it, because I thought she would be mad at me for it. My dog got really interested in it while I was watching TV one night and started persistently licking it. Now he never bit or chewed it, he just licked it (course he wasn't a rottweiler, pitt, or lab - he was a standard poodle - maybe they aren't as chew-happy). The next morning...it was better! He licked it for several nights in a row, and then it was healed and he stopped. He treated as it would have treat an infection on his own foot I suppose.
 
2010-12-31 02:54:09 PM
Lamune_Baba: black Labrador retriever

Oh... I see how it is. A dog attack story that isn't about a pit, so the first they thing have to do is make it a race thing.


It's not racism, man has some best friends that are black.
 
2010-12-31 02:54:41 PM
Dogs really don't approve of gangrene.
 
2010-12-31 02:58:31 PM
Article needed a more violent-appearing picture of a dog to draw in those who are partial to graphics.
 
2010-12-31 02:59:32 PM
Kar98: Seems to happen a lot:

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That one with the diabetic is reasonable.

The one with the pitbull and baby, dear god, I want to kill the parents.

Why anyone would ever get a pitbull is beyond me. They're aggressive, dumb, and hard to train. Did I mention they are retarded and dumb as rocks?

You can get (stereotypically) aggressive dogs that are smart and easy to train. GSDs, Dobermens, or Rottweilers to name a few.
 
2010-12-31 03:06:46 PM
El Chode: Spinal Bifida doesn't sound as poetic as Spinal Meningitis:

Why they wanna see my spine mommy?
Why they wanna see my spine?
It's gonna hurt again mommy
Much worse than last time
Am i gonna see god, mommy?
Am i gonna die?
It really hurts mommy!
Am i gonna die?

Smile on mighty jesus
Spinal bifida got me down


HA!! Got that on me ipod!
 
2010-12-31 03:12:41 PM
Nogale: gadian: Ewww, can you imagine how bad that wound had to have been for the dog to chew off the infection? I can imagine the dog sitting around for weeks watching nothing getting done and then sighing and crawling under the blanket. The parents are the ones who need to be investigated here, not the dog.

Yeah, especially since the girl had had it for a YEAR.

/ Am inclined to think that it was an injury, rather than a wound. Who would intentionally harm a child with spinal bifida?

// Picky slashies


You may want to skip the erroneous vocabulary advice in the future.

/Just sayin'.
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2010-12-31 03:15:50 PM
thedooropens: Dog - "Oh my! This toe has a wound on it. Well, I had better eat it lest some dangerous infection should set in. Om nom nom... well that was good, I think I'll have another. Om nom nom... one more couldn't hurt. Om nom nom... well it is the holidays. Om nom nom... One left, might as well. Om nom nom... Phew! I'm full now - feel like a nap."

haha, Happy New Year kid, buurrrp!
 
2010-12-31 03:15:56 PM
Why anyone would ever get a pitbull is beyond me. They're aggressive, dumb, and hard to train. Did I mention they are retarded and dumb as rocks?

None of the ones I've ever seen were dumb. Some smarter than their owners, which is dangerous, and most very independent, which makes them difficult to train and can be dangerous, but none that were dumb.
 
2010-12-31 03:20:29 PM
nickerj1:

Why anyone would ever get a pitbull is beyond me. They're aggressive, dumb, and hard to train. Did I mention they are retarded and dumb as rocks?



Wanna know how I know you aren't an experienced dog handler?
 
2010-12-31 03:25:03 PM
peachfish: This is interesting. When I was a kid, maybe 6 or 7, I had infected toe. I had this tendency to swipe my mom's nail clippers and clip my own nails, and I often took off too much, So I had kind of a swollen/inflamed area, like a really bad hangnail on my big toe. I was dreading telling my mom about it, because I thought she would be mad at me for it. My dog got really interested in it while I was watching TV one night and started persistently licking it. Now he never bit or chewed it, he just licked it (course he wasn't a rottweiler, pitt, or lab - he was a standard poodle - maybe they aren't as chew-happy). The next morning...it was better! He licked it for several nights in a row, and then it was healed and he stopped. He treated as it would have treat an infection on his own foot I suppose.

farm4.static.flickr.com
 
2010-12-31 03:32:36 PM
I used to have this wonderful cat who passed away from cancer. The poor thing always had problems his right ear. He was always scratching at it and sometimes he would injure himself. I took him to several different vets and two of them even did minor surgeries on him to repair his ear. They never detected anything.
My brother's dog however, would go over to my cat and sniff and lick his ear for hours, years before we suspected anything.
Trust in dogs.
 
2010-12-31 03:32:49 PM
Dogs have some sort of antibiotic in their saliva, that's why they lick their wounds.

But if that dog had so much as growled when strangers came into the house, it would be dead now. Must be a lousy watchdog.
 
2010-12-31 03:34:50 PM
"Doggy ate my toes!!!"
 
2010-12-31 03:35:38 PM
zaier: nickerj1:

Why anyone would ever get a pitbull is beyond me. They're aggressive, dumb, and hard to train. Did I mention they are retarded and dumb as rocks?


Wanna know how I know you aren't an experienced dog handler?


I don't think they are dumb. It is, as people will preach, usually dumb owners, as I would assume it is with weapons. Pitbull's do however have a very special set of skills which would make it much easier to kill you. Also, are often bred to be aggressive. That's freaky. They definitely hurt and maim more people than any other dog (again, I would assume), but I'm sure 9 times out of ten, it's the owners' fault for not recognizing an overly aggressive dog, or not taking the time to deal with it.
 
2010-12-31 03:36:44 PM
peachfish: This is interesting. When I was a kid, maybe 6 or 7, I had infected toe. I had this tendency to swipe my mom's nail clippers and clip my own nails, and I often took off too much, So I had kind of a swollen/inflamed area, like a really bad hangnail on my big toe. I was dreading telling my mom about it, because I thought she would be mad at me for it. My dog got really interested in it while I was watching TV one night and started persistently licking it. Now he never bit or chewed it, he just licked it (course he wasn't a rottweiler, pitt, or lab - he was a standard poodle - maybe they aren't as chew-happy). The next morning...it was better! He licked it for several nights in a row, and then it was healed and he stopped. He treated as it would have treat an infection on his own foot I suppose.

Well dogs do have something in their saliva that heals infections and stuff like that. In the bible didn't someone have boils and dogs came and licked them until they healed or felt better or something like that?
 
2010-12-31 03:38:16 PM
kilgorn: because....you don't eat a little girl like that....all at once

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/giggity
 
2010-12-31 03:39:11 PM
cryinoutloud: Dogs have some sort of antibiotic in their saliva, that's why they lick their wounds.

But if that dog had so much as growled when strangers came into the house, it would be dead now. Must be a lousy watchdog.


I still don't want a dog licking me. They lick their own arseholes and they eat poop. I don't want any of that near me if I have an open wound.
 
2010-12-31 03:40:38 PM
YOUR TOES, GIVE THEM TO ME!!!

i.imgur.com

OM NOM NOM
 
2010-12-31 03:40:49 PM
zaier: The dog was just trying to help. Sounds like she would have needed her foot amputated eventually anyway.


Nogale:
/ Am inclined to think that it was an injury, rather than a wound. Who would intentionally harm a child with spinal bifida?

// Picky slashies

Wound doesn't mean somebody else did it to you, it simply means there has been a break in the skin of some sort. A paper cut falls under the definition of wound.


Yup. I checked and you're right. The verb "to wound" means the wound was caused intentionally, as opposed to an injury, which is why I got confused. It's nice to see a constructive correction on Fark.
 
2010-12-31 03:41:57 PM
EmmaLou: I still don't want a dog licking me. They lick their own arseholes and they eat poop. I don't want any of that near me if I have an open wound.

Actually dogs have much cleaner mouths than humans do.
 
2010-12-31 03:45:07 PM
Coelacanth: EmmaLou: I still don't want a dog licking me. They lick their own arseholes and they eat poop. I don't want any of that near me if I have an open wound.

Actually dogs have much cleaner mouths than humans do.


Generally, I don't let humans pull of my scabs with their mouths either.
 
2010-12-31 03:45:25 PM
farm2.static.flickr.com
 
2010-12-31 03:47:28 PM
NotARocketScientist: Why anyone would ever get a pitbull is beyond me. They're aggressive, dumb, and hard to train. Did I mention they are retarded and dumb as rocks?

None of the ones I've ever seen were dumb. Some smarter than their owners, which is dangerous, and most very independent, which makes them difficult to train and can be dangerous, but none that were dumb.


I read an article that said that dogs that are harder to train and less obedient are actually smarter. Maybe because they can think for themselves if they want to perform a task vs. following training without thought?
 
2010-12-31 03:49:38 PM
Mr Sweater, NO!!! Bad Dog!

STICK YOUR FINGER IN HIS ARSE!!!!
 
2010-12-31 03:57:21 PM
Coelacanth:
Actually dogs have much cleaner mouths than humans do.


When I was a kid, I knew a boy who had dogs he let lick all over his face. That was what he always said--"Dogs have cleaner mouths than humans." I had a mad crush on him, so I didn't care if he let his dogs lick his mouth. I wasn't sure he was right, though.

My dog would like my face all day long too. I don't encourage her.
 
2010-12-31 03:58:07 PM
http://www.snopes.com/critters/wild/dogmouth.asp

FTA:
Saliva (human or canine) is not antiseptic, so having a dog lick a wound in hopes of healing it more quickly is a poor idea. Folks have developed septicemia, a dangerous blood infection, from letting dogs lick open wounds.

The best treatment is to pick out all the stuff that's not supposed to be there and thoroughly rinse it with clean water. Then keep it clean and dry and let it breathe. Field stitches are an absolute no-no. If it's that bad, see a doctor.

/Learned it from these guys: http://www.wildmed.com
 
2010-12-31 03:59:12 PM
This...I don't...what the hell is wrong with people??? The dog chewed your kid's toes off and YOU KEEP THE DOG? I can't wait for the whole "it was just doing what comes naturally" defense next time a dog mauls a kid. "Your honor, little Billy ran away from Fido, which only enticed Fido into chasing Billy and treating him like prey."
 
2010-12-31 04:04:34 PM
rhondajeremy: NotARocketScientist: Why anyone would ever get a pitbull is beyond me. They're aggressive, dumb, and hard to train. Did I mention they are retarded and dumb as rocks?

None of the ones I've ever seen were dumb. Some smarter than their owners, which is dangerous, and most very independent, which makes them difficult to train and can be dangerous, but none that were dumb.

I read an article that said that dogs that are harder to train and less obedient are actually smarter. Maybe because they can think for themselves if they want to perform a task vs. following training without thought?



Susceptibility to training is more of an aspect of the dog's personality and genetic based behavior than an indicator of how smart it is.
 
2010-12-31 04:04:36 PM
farm4.static.flickr.com
poodle bites
poodle chews
 
2010-12-31 04:04:49 PM
TimonC346: zaier: nickerj1:

Why anyone would ever get a pitbull is beyond me. They're aggressive, dumb, and hard to train. Did I mention they are retarded and dumb as rocks?


Wanna know how I know you aren't an experienced dog handler?

I don't think they are dumb. It is, as people will preach, usually dumb owners, as I would assume it is with weapons. Pitbull's do however have a very special set of skills which would make it much easier to kill you. Also, are often bred to be aggressive. That's freaky. They definitely hurt and maim more people than any other dog (again, I would assume), but I'm sure 9 times out of ten, it's the owners' fault for not recognizing an overly aggressive dog, or not taking the time to deal with it.


They're not dumb. They're just a high energy dog. Exercise them for at least a half an hour before trying to train them. I played fetch with mine for a half an hour a day before obedience class and suddenly I'm the damned dog whisperer.
 
2010-12-31 04:06:12 PM
Cybernetic: Antimatter: Interesting...they didn't kill the dog, because it was doing exactly what nature told it to do for non-healing wounds.

I have seen stories where dogs were able to detect incipient gangrene (IIRC in the feet of diabetics), and have done the same thing.

The fact that they have an instinct to do this is amazing.


The ones that fascinate me are the dogs that can sense if someone is about to have a seizure. Incredible stuff, and utterly life-changing for epileptics who can get their hands on a seizure dog. Too bad it doesn't seem to be an ability that breeds true.
 
2010-12-31 04:08:38 PM
TimonC346: Pitbull's do however have a very special set of skills which would make it much easier to kill you. Also, are often bred to be aggressive. That's freaky.

All true statements, however dare to point these things out to a pet fetishist and you're suddenly the bad guy.
 
2010-12-31 04:11:18 PM
Owangotang: TimonC346: Pitbull's do however have a very special set of skills which would make it much easier to kill you. Also, are often bred to be aggressive. That's freaky.

All true statements, however dare to point these things out to a pet fetishist and you're suddenly the bad guy.



Because it's like saying all women are hookers because they're equipped for it.
 
2010-12-31 04:11:40 PM
Lachwen: Cybernetic: Antimatter: Interesting...they didn't kill the dog, because it was doing exactly what nature told it to do for non-healing wounds.

I have seen stories where dogs were able to detect incipient gangrene (IIRC in the feet of diabetics), and have done the same thing.

The fact that they have an instinct to do this is amazing.

The ones that fascinate me are the dogs that can sense if someone is about to have a seizure. Incredible stuff, and utterly life-changing for epileptics who can get their hands on a seizure dog. Too bad it doesn't seem to be an ability that breeds true.


There are some that can also sense cancer. This is why dogs = win.
 
2010-12-31 04:25:51 PM
platedlizard: Labs tend to do that. Remember that French lady who had the face transplant awhile back? A black lab ate her face off. farking labs. At least pit bulls wait until you're awake to attack you.

8thRay: My own theory (which is equally possible) is that the dog is from the future, sent back in time to kill baby Hitler, but it ended up in the wrong place and time so it ate off a helpless kid's toes.

An infection like that which doesn't heal would lead to gangrene, which would lead to amputating the whole leg. That's just a fact. These dogs have a natural instinct to remove the source of the infection.
 
2010-12-31 04:26:04 PM
Kar98: Seems to happen a lot:

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You know, leaving your kid "alone" (b/c you're sleeping or whatever) with a dog, or any pet really. Is a bad idea. But unfortunately an easy one to make. Plenty of babies have been suffocated by a friendly snuggly cat.

Charging them (when they are probably already feeling horrible) with all this CPS stuff seems a bit much. I'm willing to bet they are only getting charged b/c they aren't 30-somethings.

/age discrimination in parenthood is pretty rampant
 
2010-12-31 04:31:56 PM
EsteeFlwrPot: Lachwen: Cybernetic: Antimatter: Interesting...they didn't kill the dog, because it was doing exactly what nature told it to do for non-healing wounds.

I have seen stories where dogs were able to detect incipient gangrene (IIRC in the feet of diabetics), and have done the same thing.

The fact that they have an instinct to do this is amazing.

The ones that fascinate me are the dogs that can sense if someone is about to have a seizure. Incredible stuff, and utterly life-changing for epileptics who can get their hands on a seizure dog. Too bad it doesn't seem to be an ability that breeds true.

There are some that can also sense cancer. This is why dogs = win.


Cats sense cancer, too. They just don't give a fark about it though.
 
2010-12-31 04:34:42 PM
Nocens: Owangotang: TimonC346: Pitbull's do however have a very special set of skills which would make it much easier to kill you. Also, are often bred to be aggressive. That's freaky.

All true statements, however dare to point these things out to a pet fetishist and you're suddenly the bad guy.


Because it's like saying all women are hookers because they're equipped for it.


Not true, and way to equate women with dogs. Classy. I suppose if you wanted to make your ill-advised point you'd be better off trying to argue that all big breasted women or big assed are hookers because of their unique anatomical qualifications, but then again you're still comparing women to canines so yea...

Anything to excuse away vicious dogs!!!
 
2010-12-31 04:36:34 PM
EsteeFlwrPot: There are some that can also sense cancer. This is why dogs = win.

"Honey, Spot chewed my tit off in the night!"

"Oh, well that just means you had breast cancer. All better now!"

"I'm bleeding..."

"Who's a good dog? WHO'S A GOOD DOG!"
 
2010-12-31 04:42:28 PM
Owangotang: Nocens: Owangotang: TimonC346: Pitbull's do however have a very special set of skills which would make it much easier to kill you. Also, are often bred to be aggressive. That's freaky.

All true statements, however dare to point these things out to a pet fetishist and you're suddenly the bad guy.


Because it's like saying all women are hookers because they're equipped for it.

Not true, and way to equate women with dogs. Classy. I suppose if you wanted to make your ill-advised point you'd be better off trying to argue that all big breasted women or big assed are hookers because of their unique anatomical qualifications, but then again you're still comparing women to canines so yea...

Anything to excuse away vicious dogs!!!


Ban the deed not the breed.
 
2010-12-31 04:45:50 PM
unr3a1: Owangotang: Nocens: Owangotang: TimonC346: Pitbull's do however have a very special set of skills which would make it much easier to kill you. Also, are often bred to be aggressive. That's freaky.

All true statements, however dare to point these things out to a pet fetishist and you're suddenly the bad guy.


Because it's like saying all women are hookers because they're equipped for it.

Not true, and way to equate women with dogs. Classy. I suppose if you wanted to make your ill-advised point you'd be better off trying to argue that all big breasted women or big assed are hookers because of their unique anatomical qualifications, but then again you're still comparing women to canines so yea...

Anything to excuse away vicious dogs!!!

Ban the deed not the breed.


I don't think he even picked a breed yet. He's appears to be shooting some sort of lame ass trolling scattergun at the thread and seeing if he hits anything.
 
2010-12-31 04:46:26 PM
Scalded Ape: http://www.snopes.com/critters/wild/dogmouth.asp

FTA:
Saliva (human or canine) is not antiseptic, so having a dog lick a wound in hopes of healing it more quickly is a poor idea. Folks have developed septicemia, a dangerous blood infection, from letting dogs lick open wounds.

The best treatment is to pick out all the stuff that's not supposed to be there and thoroughly rinse it with clean water. Then keep it clean and dry and let it breathe. Field stitches are an absolute no-no. If it's that bad, see a doctor.

/Learned it from these guys: http://www.wildmed.com


No, it doesn't contain anti-septic. It contains digestive enzymes. Small amounts, yes, but enzymes none the less. Those can be useful in getting rid of dead tissues or uninvited guests. My guess is that is why some of these other cases were successful.

However, the best option by far is still to wash the wound with proper cleaning agents and clean water. Since digestive enzymes are not the *only* things found in your saliva.
 
2010-12-31 04:47:02 PM
unr3a1: Ban the deed not the breed.

Who said anything about banning? Hell, if trends like the one in the article continue ol' Darwin will take care of the problem of people owning dangerous animals.
 
2010-12-31 04:49:08 PM
Nocens: Owangotang: TimonC346: Pitbull's do however have a very special set of skills which would make it much easier to kill you. Also, are often bred to be aggressive. That's freaky.

All true statements, however dare to point these things out to a pet fetishist and you're suddenly the bad guy.


Because it's like saying all women are hookers because they're equipped for it.


You know women who were intentionally bred to be hookers?
 
2010-12-31 04:49:26 PM
spacechicken170am: I don't think he even picked a breed yet. He's appears to be shooting some sort of lame ass trolling scattergun at the thread and seeing if he hits anything.

Not true, I just find it disgusting that there is not even an investigation into what the hell is going on in a home where a 10 year old girl has her toes amputated by a dog. Not DCFS, not animal control, and not even the child's parents seem to have any qualms about this. Who is looking out for this kid?
 
2010-12-31 04:50:48 PM
spacechicken170am: unr3a1: Owangotang: Nocens: Owangotang: TimonC346: Pitbull's do however have a very special set of skills which would make it much easier to kill you. Also, are often bred to be aggressive. That's freaky.

All true statements, however dare to point these things out to a pet fetishist and you're suddenly the bad guy.


Because it's like saying all women are hookers because they're equipped for it.

Not true, and way to equate women with dogs. Classy. I suppose if you wanted to make your ill-advised point you'd be better off trying to argue that all big breasted women or big assed are hookers because of their unique anatomical qualifications, but then again you're still comparing women to canines so yea...

Anything to excuse away vicious dogs!!!

Ban the deed not the breed.

I don't think he even picked a breed yet. He's appears to be shooting some sort of lame ass trolling scattergun at the thread and seeing if he hits anything.



He's trolling, we missed the clues. Let go of the hook.
 
2010-12-31 04:54:53 PM
spacechicken170am: unr3a1: Owangotang: Nocens: Owangotang: TimonC346: Pitbull's do however have a very special set of skills which would make it much easier to kill you. Also, are often bred to be aggressive. That's freaky.

All true statements, however dare to point these things out to a pet fetishist and you're suddenly the bad guy.


Because it's like saying all women are hookers because they're equipped for it.

Not true, and way to equate women with dogs. Classy. I suppose if you wanted to make your ill-advised point you'd be better off trying to argue that all big breasted women or big assed are hookers because of their unique anatomical qualifications, but then again you're still comparing women to canines so yea...

Anything to excuse away vicious dogs!!!

Ban the deed not the breed.

I don't think he even picked a breed yet. He's appears to be shooting some sort of lame ass trolling scattergun at the thread and seeing if he hits anything.


Hahahahhaha...."trolling scattergun". Totally going to use that against my g/f the next time we get into an argument. Thanks! *Thumbs up*
 
2010-12-31 04:57:12 PM
If anyone even dares to suggest that dogs can be vicious, dangerous animals well then by golly they MUST be trolling! I really hope that the dog in the article does not chew any more of the little girl's appendages off, however if the dog does then somehow the parents, animal control, and DCFS need to be held accountable.
 
2010-12-31 05:02:31 PM
Lachwen: The ones that fascinate me are the dogs that can sense if someone is about to have a seizure. Incredible stuff, and utterly life-changing for epileptics who can get their hands on a seizure dog.

I used to have a seizure dog. In the end, ANYTHING would set him off. A leaf falling to the ground, a flash from a car's windshield, the refrigerator starting...
 
2010-12-31 05:03:17 PM
Aggressive dogs don't EAT people, at least as far as I know. Sure they will attack, maim, even kill, but I'm fairly certain it isn't ever to feed.

Secondly, it does not take very long to spot an aggressive dog. Trained animal control officers would be able to tell very quickly, not to mention over the course of a 10 day observation. This was not an aggressive dog, and the toe incident was not an attack.

Sure sounds like that whole foot was at risk for being amputated soon anyway. A wound that doesn't heal after a full year is a pretty good indication that there is limited or no blood flow in the area.
 
2010-12-31 05:06:43 PM
KiTTeNs_on_AciD: Sure sounds like that whole foot was at risk for being amputated soon anyway.

That sure was the professional opinion of Dr. Fido (and the DCFS, Animal Control, and her parents) So many trained medical professionals!
 
2010-12-31 05:16:50 PM
Oznog: 8thRay: Wow, a lot of cool theories about this genius doctor dog's surgical treatment of the mostly healthy foot by chewing off the toes.

My own theory (which is equally possible) is that the dog is from the future, sent back in time to kill baby Hitler, but it ended up in the wrong place and time so it ate off a helpless kid's toes.

Close, that WAS baby Hitler II- Hitlina, but all her genocide crimes against a minority were ACTUALLY committed by her toes. Well, not literally of course, but her toes were crucial to the whole plot.


To be fair, marching across Europe is a bugger without toes. Especially wearing jackboots.
 
2010-12-31 05:19:38 PM
if your dog eats your toes and you sleep right through it, should we really be blaming the dog? that seems like the kinda thing you should notice.
 
2010-12-31 05:21:31 PM
Just when I think it's not possible to hate dogs any more...

They are not only useless shiat machines with legs, now they eat body parts.
 
2010-12-31 05:22:23 PM
SlothB77: if your dog eats your toes and you sleep right through it, should we really be blaming the dog? that seems like the kinda thing you should notice.

FTA:
According to reports, the girl suffers from spina bifida, which "causes numbness in her lower extremities (and she) has basically no sensation beneath the waist."
 
2010-12-31 05:22:47 PM
Dogs treat wounds by licking. Our old dog would find a cut or scratch on your leg and lick it for a while. If it had a good scab on it, you had to be sure she wouldn't try to peel it off for you. The licked wounds always healed faster.
 
2010-12-31 05:22:48 PM
Owangotang: If anyone even dares to suggest that dogs can be vicious, dangerous animals well then by golly they MUST be trolling! I really hope that the dog in the article does not chew any more of the little girl's appendages off, however if the dog does then somehow the parents, animal control, and DCFS need to be held accountable.


It could have gone down two ways after that response to me up there.

Either you're a total farking ignorant moron talking straight from your ass or you're trolling.

I gave you the benefit of the doubt.
 
2010-12-31 05:24:28 PM
Owangotang: If anyone even dares to suggest that dogs can be vicious, dangerous animals well then by golly they MUST be trolling! I really hope that the dog in the article does not chew any more of the little girl's appendages off, however if the dog does then somehow the parents, animal control, and DCFS need to be held accountable.

Yes, dogs can be vicious and some specific breeds are more commonly bred for that purpose than others, but that does not make any specific breed "more dangerous" than another.

Pit bulls are more commonly used for dog fighting, no one is denying that, but that doesn't mean that the pit bull breed is a more dangerous dog to own for a family. There are hundreds of thousands of families that own pit bulls that are no more aggressive or "vicious" than a golden retriever.

It is the maniacs that use these dogs for sick and disgusting purposes that need to be eliminated.
 
2010-12-31 05:34:59 PM
unr3a1: Yes, dogs can be vicious and some specific breeds are more commonly bred for that purpose than others, but that does not make any specific breed "more dangerous" than another.

What a load of crap.

You're just saying that so you don't offend pitbull owners. It's some kind of bizarre political correctness.

Actually, yes, on a genetic level, some animals are more aggressive and dangerous than others. All dogs are mutations from a particular kind of wolf, and selected over thousands of years for a certain temperament. This selection has become so extreme that it's led to amazing diversity in other mutations, most of which are related to dogs being more dependent and less adult-like.

Breeding these dogs back towards aggression has caused another set of mutations. The fact is that much of the dangerousness of an animal in innate rather than from their owner's treatment. Russian took a set of foxes and bred some for aggression and some for docility, and while there's no hard and fast 100% to this, it's clear the way these mutations work is that no aggressive breed can be made completely risk-free by super sweet owners. It just can't be done, which is why the vast majority of the time a pitbull hurts someone, the owners say the exact same 'he's so sweet and we raised him to be that way, and he never showed any sign of problems until he killed little Billy'.

Sorry... we want to pretend dogs are like people, but they are not people. They have instincts. Pitbulls will react severely to some stimulus and have tremendous destructive capability.

I'm not saying we should destroy all of a breed, though I am saying we shouldn't lie to ourselves with lame platitudes about how no breed is more dangerous than another. That's just not true. It's actually pretty silly.

If you've got a breed that is similar to dogs that are known to hurt folks, you should always be in control of your animal. You should consider insurance (such as an umbrella policy). It's just like any other dangerous thing, like a gun or a pool or some medicines, and it's on the owner to be sober about the potential problems.

The last thing we need is people pretending a Boston Terrier or a lab is as dangerous as a doberman. And I say this as someone who thinks pits are magnificent and beautiful animals. I just respect what they are.
 
2010-12-31 05:38:36 PM
Nocens: It could have gone down two ways after that response to me up there.

Either you're a total farking ignorant moron talking straight from your ass or you're trolling.

I gave you the benefit of the doubt.


Nocens: Because it's like saying all women are hookers because they're equipped for it.


That was your brilliant analogy. It's not my fault that it doesn't make sense and possibly reveals some gender biases you harbor; that's your own doing. Calling someone a troll because he/she calls you on your bullshiat doesn't exonerate yo, it just means your spewing more BS.
 
2010-12-31 05:40:44 PM
Arcanum: unr3a1: Yes, dogs can be vicious and some specific breeds are more commonly bred for that purpose than others, but that does not make any specific breed "more dangerous" than another.

What a load of crap.

You're just saying that so you don't offend pitbull owners. It's some kind of bizarre political correctness.

Actually, yes, on a genetic level, some animals are more aggressive and dangerous than others. All dogs are mutations from a particular kind of wolf, and selected over thousands of years for a certain temperament. This selection has become so extreme that it's led to amazing diversity in other mutations, most of which are related to dogs being more dependent and less adult-like.

Breeding these dogs back towards aggression has caused another set of mutations. The fact is that much of the dangerousness of an animal in innate rather than from their owner's treatment. Russian took a set of foxes and bred some for aggression and some for docility, and while there's no hard and fast 100% to this, it's clear the way these mutations work is that no aggressive breed can be made completely risk-free by super sweet owners. It just can't be done, which is why the vast majority of the time a pitbull hurts someone, the owners say the exact same 'he's so sweet and we raised him to be that way, and he never showed any sign of problems until he killed little Billy'.

Sorry... we want to pretend dogs are like people, but they are not people. They have instincts. Pitbulls will react severely to some stimulus and have tremendous destructive capability.

I'm not saying we should destroy all of a breed, though I am saying we shouldn't lie to ourselves with lame platitudes about how no breed is more dangerous than another. That's just not true. It's actually pretty silly.

If you've got a breed that is similar to dogs that are known to hurt folks, you should always be in control of your animal. You should consider insurance (such as an umbrella policy). It's just like any other dangerous thing, like a gun or a pool or some medicines, and it's on the owner to be sober about the potential problems.

The last thing we need is people pretending a Boston Terrier or a lab is as dangerous as a doberman. And I say this as someone who thinks pits are magnificent and beautiful animals. I just respect what they are.


I really, really wish people who read your post would let it sink in and realize how right you are.
 
2010-12-31 05:48:54 PM
Owangotang: I really, really wish people who read your post would let it sink in and realize how right you are.

Everything except the "magnificent and beautiful" part. Those things are butt ugly.
 
2010-12-31 05:57:18 PM
corronchilejano: eqtworld: The same could be said of pedophiles...

Pedophiles don't fark your infections away.


DAMMIT! I knew my uncle was lying!
 
2010-12-31 06:39:38 PM
Owangotang: spacechicken170am: I don't think he even picked a breed yet. He's appears to be shooting some sort of lame ass trolling scattergun at the thread and seeing if he hits anything.

Not true, I just find it disgusting that there is not even an investigation into what the hell is going on in a home where a 10 year old girl has her toes amputated by a dog. Not DCFS, not animal control, and not even the child's parents seem to have any qualms about this. Who is looking out for this kid?


I'm willing to bet that they did take a look around the home and that the child is fairly well cared for (she was getting medical treatment for the toe). Do you really want to kill a poor sick kid's dog when it is unlikely to attack/eat toes again?
 
2010-12-31 07:24:32 PM
Talk about agony of da feet...AMIRITE?!
 
2010-12-31 07:27:39 PM
Scalded Ape: http://www.snopes.com/critters/wild/dogmouth.asp

FTA:
Saliva (human or canine) is not antiseptic, so having a dog lick a wound in hopes of healing it more quickly is a poor idea. Folks have developed septicemia, a dangerous blood infection, from letting dogs lick open wounds.

The best treatment is to pick out all the stuff that's not supposed to be there and thoroughly rinse it with clean water. Then keep it clean and dry and let it breathe. Field stitches are an absolute no-no. If it's that bad, see a doctor.

/Learned it from these guys: http://www.wildmed.com


Well, I don't think it's as black-and-white as that. Saliva is as good or better for a wound than pretty much anything else in nature. We can do better with chemical treatment or boiling of water, and of course with chemical antiseptics, but without access to the above, saliva probably prevents more cases of septicemia than it causes.
 
2010-12-31 07:30:17 PM
If Owangotang tries any harder he will pull something.
 
2010-12-31 07:31:06 PM
The_Homeless_Guy: it is unlikely to eat toes again?

Well, unless one of the side effects of spina bifida is "spontaneous generation of limbs might occur", no.
 
2010-12-31 07:33:10 PM
Glad to see a little common sense prevail for once. That being said, had it been a Pit Bull and done the exact same thing, and behaved the exact same way at all times, it would be put down just because of the stigma.
 
2010-12-31 07:34:05 PM
The_Homeless_Guy: I'm willing to bet that they did take a look around the home and that the child is fairly well cared for (she was getting medical treatment for the toe). Do you really want to kill a poor sick kid's dog when it is unlikely to attack/eat toes again?

To be fair, its unlikely to eat toes again because they're farking gone. :P
 
2010-12-31 07:48:58 PM
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Wai... hwhat?!?!
 
2010-12-31 07:53:11 PM
That does make one wonder whether the dog could detect gangrene forming..

//more power to the animal control folks on this one. It's nice to see them using a little logic instead of just killing the dog..
 
2010-12-31 08:04:33 PM
The_Homeless_Guy: Do you really want to kill a poor sick kid's dog when it is unlikely to attack/eat toes again?

Who said it had to be killed? I sure did not. I just want to know how far the insane dog love in this country is going to go. It's retarded and you're retarded if you think of your dog as a family member. It's a dog, not a human.

Nobody is protecting this little girl and it's a damn shame.
 
2010-12-31 08:24:31 PM
I can get you a toe, Dude. With nail polish.
 
2010-12-31 08:47:45 PM
Dogs can also detect cancer.
 
2011-01-01 12:19:05 AM
depmode98: Hitler

Yes - magical, magical dogs with their amazing medical powers. I had a german shephard cure my diseased spleen just last week. He did it by gnawing off my kneecaps.
 
2011-01-01 02:31:23 AM
Your dog wants steak toes.
 
2011-01-01 10:37:30 AM
As someone with spina bifida, I'm getting a kick out of these replies

/less sensation in my left leg/foot
//still have all my toes
 
2011-01-01 12:36:14 PM
They should name that dog Lifesaver!
 
2011-01-01 08:01:54 PM
I have a niece with spinal bifida. My brother is part owner of multimedia company. He and his wife push her academically harder than her two older sisters and she's been on local TV more than some newscasters promoting how handy-capable she is.
Poor girl desperately wants to spend a summer with her uncle just doing nothing except help me paint wargaming miniatures and eating at Sonic's.
 
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