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2010-12-29 08:13:19 PM
farkeruk: Look at all the white supremacists. They're not exactly the brightest tools in the box, are they?

Compared to what, whiggers?

Devolving_Spud: And as a white man, I have stood with my white friends and out-shouted the KKK

Don't waste your voice helping them. Northerners fought and died in a war so they could be free. You think they appreciated it? Farkers still blame the North for slavery. Fark em.
 
2010-12-29 08:14:46 PM
eraser8: keypusher: Don't like the facts? Invent your own!

This has nothing to do with inventing my own facts.

But, one has to account for the difference in value of the properties these different groups (when similarly financially situated) are allowed to purchase.


OK, let's have your non-invented facts.

What's the difference? (In precise numbers, not words.)

What is the effect of the difference?

Citations, please.

Unfortunately, even if you knew what you were talking about and could demonstrate what you assert, your original point -- that racial differences in lending rates to borrowers with the same credit score was evidence of irrational racial discrimination -- would still be lost. Because you still wouldn't have any evidence that the racial difference would not be irrational.
 
2010-12-29 08:15:53 PM
keypusher: your original point -- that racial differences in lending rates to borrowers with the same credit score was evidence of irrational racial discrimination -- would still be lost.

Read the study I posted and then get back to me.
 
2010-12-29 08:16:31 PM
*Because you still wouldn't have any evidence that the racial difference was irrational.

/Tripped myself up with double negatives.
 
2010-12-29 08:18:00 PM
eraser8: keypusher: your original point -- that racial differences in lending rates to borrowers with the same credit score was evidence of irrational racial discrimination -- would still be lost.

Read the study I posted and then get back to me.


I can't. All I see is a cite to J-Stor.
 
2010-12-29 08:18:21 PM
LOGICAL_PSYCHO: berylman: Screw yall Im off to Church's.

Popeyes is better.


Wish my town had either.
 
2010-12-29 08:18:48 PM
keypusher: *Because you still wouldn't have any evidence that the racial difference was irrational.

/Tripped myself up with double negatives.


I'm not a martinet. Still, you should read the study I posted, it deals with a lot of your objections.
 
2010-12-29 08:20:09 PM
keypusher: I can't. All I see is a cite to J-Stor.

Are you serious?

Damnit.

Works perfectly fine for me.

And, as I said, it addresses some of the issues you raised.
 
2010-12-29 08:22:17 PM
keypusher: Or it could be that blacks are shiftless deadbeats


I'm going with shiftless deadbeats. Selfish whiny blaming bastards don't even want to pay for cheap chicken!
 
2010-12-29 08:30:18 PM
news.bbcimg.co.uk

Will you look at this racist biatch selling dirty spoiled meat to poor ppl! Bet she don't even wash her hands!
 
2010-12-29 08:30:58 PM
zato_ichi: drjekel_mrhyde: I would like to ask everyone here. Would you eat it?
/If not STFU

Yes.

I don't doubt that these practices take place in the U.S. as well. Also, I'm sure that the food is no more unhealthy than fast food. Don't ask for citations, that's my own opinion.
But, because it is happening to black folk, it's different, yes?


Do the google for fast food chicken processing.
Don't forget a puke bucket!!!
 
2010-12-29 08:31:14 PM
illannoyin: LOGICAL_PSYCHO: berylman: Screw yall Im off to Church's.

Popeyes is better.

I like the fried chicken made the Jewel grocery store deli.


you're all kidding, right? Nothing beats the little sketchy looking Salvadorean place with all the smoke rolling out of the chimney. I'll have a whole chicken with beans, rice (mix 'em together) and platanos, please.

/now I'm hungry
 
2010-12-29 08:33:46 PM
WeenerGord: Will you look at this racist biatch selling dirty spoiled meat to poor ppl! Bet she don't even wash her hands!

Hell, I bet that chicken ain't even dead.
 
2010-12-29 08:35:18 PM
keypusher: eraser8: keypusher: And I said, blacks default more often than whites with the same credit score (and even the same income).

It simply isn't as clear cut as you would have it seem.

Certainly the SF FRB found a discrepancy...but, it seems their point had very little to do with an inherent racial difference.

You are still filibustering, and it still isn't working. Look, it's very simple.

1. Someone said that private businesses would not irrationally discriminate against blacks.

2. You said, but wait: lenders give better terms to white borrowers than black borrowers with the same credit score. This is evidence that private business will irrationally discriminate on racial grounds.

3. I said, but wait. Credit scores (and income) do not capture the actual difference in default rates between whites and blacks.

4. I proved it.

The difference in default rates could be that whites with the same income and credit score have higher savings, greater access to family wealth, and are less likely to become unemployed. Or it could be that blacks are shiftless deadbeats. It makes no difference for present purposes. The point is, credit scores plus income do not capture the actual differences rates of default among white and black borrowers, and therefore racial differences in lending to blacks and whites with the same credit scores and incomes are not prima facie evidence of irrational racial discrimination.

That is all.


Bam.

AND: My mom says melanin is for dummies.

;)
 
2010-12-29 08:40:31 PM
just_dis_guy: illannoyin: LOGICAL_PSYCHO: berylman: Screw yall Im off to Church's.

you're all kidding, right? Nothing beats the little sketchy looking Salvadorean place with all the smoke rolling out of the chimney. I'll have a whole chicken with beans, rice (mix 'em together) and platanos, please.


Ya that was tongue in cheek from me for the record. Privately owned central american restaurants ftw!
 
2010-12-29 08:43:21 PM
eraser8: Copper Spork: eraser8: But profit could be had by selling the reconditioned meat to wealthier outlets as well. The meat is, apparently, safe according to government regulation. Why limit its sale to certain neighborhoods? Surely, it could be marketed as stew meat or pet food in tonier neighborhoods.

The USA excepted, reconstituted meat products aren't particularly popular amongst people who can afford actual meat. It's something eaten by people who can't afford anything else.

As I wrote earlier, surely, the product could be marketed as stew meat or pet food in tonier neighborhoods.


You sell where the market is. People with enough money for good meat don't want it, so you sell it where there's less money.

/hurr
 
2010-12-29 08:43:49 PM
This is an outrage! I demand that that chicken be thrown in the trash!
 
2010-12-29 08:45:27 PM
Gyrfalcon: WeenerGord: Will you look at this racist biatch selling dirty spoiled meat to poor ppl! Bet she don't even wash her hands!

Hell, I bet that chicken ain't even dead.



Hell, it ain't even chicken, it's puppies!
 
2010-12-29 08:48:13 PM
jesse jackson and al sharpton should head right over and start cookin that buzzard up quick before it does go bad. if everyone has a good time maybe they can do it again next year.
 
2010-12-29 08:50:53 PM
"I can tell you now that more than 80% of ordinary black South Africans, they get their food from the spaza shops which means that you are actually selling rotten meat to black people," Blade Nzimande said.

Oop, you're selling something in Africa. You're racist.
 
2010-12-29 08:54:24 PM
Oh come on!

This week it's giving blacks bad meat fo their fried chicken..

Next week it will be givin em re-constituted watermelons!

Then somethin will be wrong with the collard greens!

/ahh going to hell sooo fast.No window seat, I'll be strapped to the top of the plane!
//I have black friends, so that means I'm OK right?
///I should just shut up and get another drink...
 
2010-12-29 08:58:27 PM
Clearly there is institutional racism involved but it is more pernicious than some basic failure to repay some student loans. The originator of the loan looking at raw beginning numbers can not determine who will and will not pay back student loans though this in general is all that the loan maker has to work with.. (and rightfully so) Black families in general have less depth in assets or initial wealth as white families so the student taking the loan have less to fall back on on hard times. Also their initial job upon graduation tends to be less well paid. There is also the drama that goes on in more black families (more so then white families) such as early pregnancy or other members of their families (even extended family) having financial difficulties in which they help one another and leave the outside bills to be paid later. This is a rational thing to do.. I repeat this is a rational thing to do since they have had only themselves to rely on in the past. (and currently still do to a certain extent) I'm not saying that this is an issue that should just fester.. but people need to realize that using raw information to demonize a certain group of people is counterproductive and will accomplish nothing but harm.
 
2010-12-29 09:00:40 PM
The Life Of Brian: Oh come on!

///I should just shut up and get another drink...


That's racists....
 
2010-12-29 09:01:28 PM
mrlewish: but people need to realize that using raw information to demonize a certain group of people is counterproductive and will accomplish nothing but harm.

Nonsense! the solution is to demonize the group of people that do this based on some superficial, vaguely common trait. Then they start to demonize the people that demonize them, and everyone hates everyone, and everybody's happy--oh, right.
 
2010-12-29 09:02:37 PM
mrlewish: Clearly there is institutional racism involved but it is more pernicious than some basic failure to repay some student loans. The originator of the loan looking at raw beginning numbers can not determine who will and will not pay back student loans though this in general is all that the loan maker has to work with.. (and rightfully so) Black families in general have less depth in assets or initial wealth as white families so the student taking the loan have less to fall back on on hard times. Also their initial job upon graduation tends to be less well paid. There is also the drama that goes on in more black families (more so then white families) such as early pregnancy or other members of their families (even extended family) having financial difficulties in which they help one another and leave the outside bills to be paid later. This is a rational thing to do.. I repeat this is a rational thing to do since they have had only themselves to rely on in the past. (and currently still do to a certain extent) I'm not saying that this is an issue that should just fester.. but people need to realize that using raw information to demonize a certain group of people is counterproductive and will accomplish nothing but harm.

NSS.

Well done, Mr. Ineptitude.

Sheesh.

;)
 
2010-12-29 09:06:41 PM
On one day, they complain that evil whitey is charging too much and people are going hungry.

On another day, they complain that evil whitey is charging too little and so hurting the development of indigenous businesses.

On the next day, they complain that they are under-served because of the lack of evil whitey investments.

And the day after that, they complain that there are too many evil whitey businesses that have taken over the markets.

It's all the fault of evil whiteys. Yep.

Maybe we should evacuate all the evil whiteys from sub Saharan Africa, seal off all the airports and seaports, and let the natives fend for themselves for a few centuries. Think of what might happen. Consider the native paradise knows as Somalia where the evil whiteys have been nearly entirely eliminated; the wonderfully prosperous and orderly Somalian way of life could spread though the entire continent!
 
2010-12-29 09:07:34 PM
eraser8: Excen: The actions of South African poultry companies do not have an underlying motivation beyond profit maximization.

Are you absolutely certain of that?


This sort of logic in it's epic vaguery could be used to accuse anyone of anything. "Are you absolutely certain the government didn't plan 9/11? Are you absolutely certain Obama is from the US?!" The obvious answer is yes I'm absolutely certain and the burden of proof is on your fallacious ass.
 
2010-12-29 09:12:49 PM
kilgorn: The Life Of Brian: Oh come on!

///I should just shut up and get another drink...

That's racists....


Naw I drink any colour of booze! White, Black, Brown, Yellow... Emo, blood, Charles Manson, Chappaquiddick, golf club, Umm...what were we talking about?

/Gorn? Wasn't that the moster thing from the 'Land of the Lost'?
//Loved that show when I was a young alcoholic in training!
 
2010-12-29 09:16:10 PM
eraser8: keypusher: 4. I proved it.

FALSE.

As I said earlier, the difference could be due to the products offered to the different consumers.


The chart posted was apparently for "federal student loans" whilst I have never had one myself, are these something that really have such broad variation?

I suppose a law degree costs more than art appreciation, but then the expected financial reward for job after attaining degree is similarly disparate so that shouldn't be a factor.


Mind you your analogy is fairly tenuous anyhow, as loaning money is a significantly different prospect to a direct sale.

A loan even in a micro-transaction sense is an ongoing agreement where a level of trust and risk between the parties has to be entered into. As such a loan creates a long term relationship between the loaner and loanee. Remuneration is not guaranteed and thus external and not directly related to finance factors can come into play, ie skin colour and attitude toward it.

Selling chicken (recycled or otherwise) is a direct sale where other than checking you are getting the weight paid for and presence of maggots there is very little risk or trust entered into. Also there is no ongoing relationship required between the seller and buyer of the product. Remuneration is guaranteed for the seller, thus emotional or attitudinal factors are not considered as much as above because skin colour is overshadowed by the green.
 
2010-12-29 09:20:16 PM
You know who else was racist?
i43.tinypic.com
 
2010-12-29 09:20:45 PM
Greymalkin: checking you are getting the weight paid for and presence of maggots


That's right don't you dare cheat me out of dem maggots I paid extry for dem! Dey's de best part o de chicken!
 
2010-12-29 09:21:45 PM
Greymalkin: eraser8: keypusher: 4. I proved it.

FALSE.

As I said earlier, the difference could be due to the products offered to the different consumers.

The chart posted was apparently for "federal student loans" whilst I have never had one myself, are these something that really have such broad variation?

I suppose a law degree costs more than art appreciation, but then the expected financial reward for job after attaining degree is similarly disparate so that shouldn't be a factor.


Mind you your analogy is fairly tenuous anyhow, as loaning money is a significantly different prospect to a direct sale.

A loan even in a micro-transaction sense is an ongoing agreement where a level of trust and risk between the parties has to be entered into. As such a loan creates a long term relationship between the loaner and loanee. Remuneration is not guaranteed and thus external and not directly related to finance factors can come into play, ie skin colour and attitude toward it.

Selling chicken (recycled or otherwise) is a direct sale where other than checking you are getting the weight paid for and presence of maggots there is very little risk or trust entered into. Also there is no ongoing relationship required between the seller and buyer of the product. Remuneration is guaranteed for the seller, thus emotional or attitudinal factors are not considered as much as above because skin colour is overshadowed by the green.


Remuneration=good use of vocab. +1 for you.

However, remuneration twice=word whore.

Steal words, biatch?

Grrrrr.

You have been warned once.

That is all.

;)
 
2010-12-29 09:29:29 PM
ultraholland: So now we can't even sell chicken to black folks without being called racist?

but if they were given the same chicken, the giver would be charitable right?
 
2010-12-29 09:32:51 PM
AbbeySomeone: ultraholland: So now we can't even sell chicken to black folks without being called racist?

but if they were given the same chicken, the giver would be charitable right?


i DO love you.

;)
 
2010-12-29 09:36:38 PM
Dreadskull: Blade Nzimande said that the poultry industry was selling "rotten" meat to black people.



/loves chicken


Why would black people want to buy rotten meat?
 
2010-12-29 09:38:18 PM

I'm not a youngster, and I've been around the globe - seen a lot of things. I nearly shat myself when, for the first time ever the other day, I saw a BLACK chicken in the meat department at a grocery store in Malaysia.


www.trendpk.com

"Things that make you go, 'hmmmm' for one thousand, Alex."
 
2010-12-29 09:50:42 PM
Barakku: eraser8: Excen: The actions of South African poultry companies do not have an underlying motivation beyond profit maximization.

Are you absolutely certain of that?

This sort of logic in it's epic vaguery could be used to accuse anyone of anything. "Are you absolutely certain the government didn't plan 9/11? Are you absolutely certain Obama is from the US?!" The obvious answer is yes I'm absolutely certain and the burden of proof is on your fallacious ass.


He didn't just throw that out there. In fact, he presented evidence that American companies might have a motive beyond profit maximization in dealing with American blacks. You could argue that the evidence he presented was not probative -- in fact I argued just that. Nevertheless, he did present evidence.

Suppose he was right. Suppose American companies were motivated, consciously or unconsciously, by racism to some extent. Would it be a huge leap to suppose that South African companies might also have that same motivation? After all, racial discrimination against blacks was mandated by law in South Africa until fairly recently.
 
2010-12-29 09:54:30 PM
Tsar_Bomba1: You know who else was racist?

Typical! Always blame the Illegal Alien's for all the problems!

crooksandliars.com
 
2010-12-29 10:28:13 PM
Unique23b: I nearly shat myself when, for the first time ever the other day, I saw a BLACK chicken in the meat department at a grocery store in Malaysia.

img11.imageshack.us
 
2010-12-29 10:39:09 PM
farkeruk: Yeah, and I'm sure the fact that black people are generally poorer in South Africa has nothing to do with it. The company are just racists.

Agreed. This, like most racism, is really nothing but economics.

/mark my words: South Africa is going to be the next Zimbabwe within 20 years. On a bigger scale.

Maybe. I don't think they're quite as messed up, though.

Copper Spork: eraser8: People obsessed with Jesse Jackson and Al Sharpton are almost invariably racists.

Given that most of the people obsessed with Jesse Jackson and Al Sharpton are blacks who think the white man is out to oppress him, I'd say you're right.


Agreed. I'm not obsessed with them but I do figure the truth is more likely opposite of their position than with it.

eraser8: MrFi5ter: This sounds like a realtor wanting less money for a less valuable, run down, lead contaminated house and being accused of racism just because it is in a predominately black area.

I think a better analogy is redlining.


Sure? Around here at least the simplest explanation is that the bankers look at the expected future appreciation of the house in assessing the risk. They were much less willing to write low-quality mortgages on houses that weren't expected to go up in value.

eraser8: farkeruk: Being a racist is not good business. If you hire a white idiot instead of a smart black guy then you're going to get poorer. If you don't look after a black customer, they'll go elsewhere.

Unfortunately, the record of private business doesn't bear out your certainty.

Studies have shown, for example, that banks give more favorable terms to white borrowers than to similarly or better situated (according to credit score) prospective borrowers. How do you account for this? What's the non-racist explanation?

Prejudice over profit? (pops)


I note there is nothing in there about expected appreciation. If you fail to include the relevant factor it's *VERY* easy to blame something that's correlated with it instead.

Devolving_Spud:
Obsessed? No. But I have watched for 20+ years while these two shameless self-promoters use every racially-charged incident as a platform for their own publicity and "glory". I believe they have done more to harm race relations in the USA than anyone else, and have little, if any regard for the people they purport to help.


Agreed. I have long said that the KKK should give them honorary memberships. They've done more to hurt blacks than any KKK member.
 
2010-12-29 10:41:55 PM
eraser8: Devolving_Spud: Obsessed? No. But I have watched for 20+ years while these two shameless self-promoters use every racially-charged incident as a platform for their own publicity and "glory".

That has nothing whatever to do with what I wrote.

I said nothing about Jackson or Sharpton...I only made a statement about those obsessed with Jackson and Sharpton.


Since you mentioned Jackson and Sharpton, and the reply was about Jackson and Sharpton, it has EVERYTHING to do about what you wrote. You're statement was presumptuous, presupposing, and intentionally short-circuiting, you got called on it, you're wrong.
 
2010-12-29 11:23:42 PM
i18.photobucket.com

Farkkk.com always delivers!
 
2010-12-29 11:36:30 PM
jso2897: Farkkk.com always delivers!

Are you implying that black people are violent? That's racist.
 
2010-12-29 11:43:27 PM
FTA: "He said chicken past its best-before date was being recycled - thawed, washed and injected with flavouring - then sold to shops in black townships."

Here we call such shops 'carnecerias', But they're not run by blacks.

www.oklahomafarmreport.com

"Sí, es más barato!"

Yes, it's more cheaper!
 
2010-12-30 12:00:34 AM
Unique23b: I'm not a youngster, and I've been around the globe - seen a lot of things. I nearly shat myself when, for the first time ever the other day, I saw a BLACK chicken in the meat department at a grocery store in Malaysia."


Those poor Black chickens are clearly in the minority.

I'll bet they get henpecked by the White majority just because they have a higher melanin content in their skin.

I'll bet Whites keep keep the Blacks down, underfed and impoverished, forcing them to live in relative misery on the bad side of the feeding trough, and making them sit on White chicken eggs for starvation wages.

Oh, the humanity.
 
2010-12-30 12:21:46 AM
eraser8

What institutionalized racism? Where? You're just imagining things again. In fact, you're racist for even suggesting it! Now hush up and let everything proceed according to the status quo. No more silly talk from you about discrimination. The '60s are over, everyone is enlightened now!

Now excuse me while I turn down this black couple who want to buy my house. The neighborhood association would never forgive me for bringing that sort of element to our block. And this other white couple that wants to buy are from my home state, so it's not really racism.

And don't read too much into it when I keep looking over my shoulder at the black man in line behind me. My friend had her wallet stolen by one of those shifty types, you can't be too careful.

And the black woman who was passed up for a promotion at work? Well, they said she needed more training and wasn't a good match for the corporate culture. If they say it's not discrimination I believe them.

Institutionalized racism? Pffft... Don't make me laugh, this is America! What are all those instigators on about anyway?! It's so annoying, why won't they just shut up about it?
 
2010-12-30 12:32:22 AM
eraser8: Copper Spork: eraser8: I think a better analogy is redlining.

Where is your evidence that the manufacturers are doing anything other than selling products in a way that maximizes profit? You're being awfully quick to jump on the racism bandwagon when profit is a much clearer motivator.

But profit could be had by selling the reconditioned meat to wealthier outlets as well. The meat is, apparently, safe according to government regulation. Why limit its sale to certain neighborhoods? Surely, it could be marketed as stew meat or pet food in tonier neighborhoods.


I agree with you. I think also most people are missing the nuance of the situation because they are having (an all too common in my opinion) difficulty in extrapolating to this very necessary next step.

To put it very bluntly for people who are evidently fairly dumb (and this probably constitutes the majority of people in this thread) - the act of selling the product to the consumers is not really the issue at stake here, instead it is one of specifically not providing services or product to people based on discriminatory practices (in this case, either racial or economic).

For example, ask this question: Do the people who live in these areas have the opportunity to purchase the more expensive meat from the market, or is the quality of their entire food supply dictated not by their economic means, but by their geographical segregation?

We have this exact same problem in Australia. There are only two major grocery chains that make up nearly 80% of the entire grocery market and they both have a history of putting poor quality food (specifically rotten, or wilted produce) into poorer neighborhoods. The reason why they do this isn't because the food is discounted and cheaper (it often is not substantially cheaper), but because the richer consumers spend more and (this is the real key) will gladly take their dollars across the street to the organic grocer to get same or better product. Simply put, the grocery is acknowledging the fact that they need to compete for the high end dollars based on the quality of their product.

Now, I'm not saying this is exactly what is going on in this particular case (I don't know enough about it to make that determination), but I am saying that this is the reason why there is concern and some complaints. These complaints could be well founded, or they could not be. None of us can make that determination accurately right now with the information we have. However, it's should be easy for everyone to understand that it would completely suck if your local grocery store started getting shipped garbage food just because some guy in a corporate office decided to draw a big circle around your neighborhood.
 
2010-12-30 12:53:56 AM
TwistedFark:

We have this exact same problem in Australia. There are only two major grocery chains that make up nearly 80% of the entire grocery market and they both have a history of putting poor quality food (specifically rotten, or wilted produce) into poorer neighborhoods. The reason why they do this isn't because the food is discounted and cheaper (it often is not substantially cheaper), but because the richer consumers spend more and (this is the real key) will gladly take their dollars across the street to the organic grocer to get same or better product. Simply put, the grocery is acknowledging the fact that they need to compete for the high end dollars based on the quality of their product.

Now, I'm not saying this is exactly what is going on in this particular case (I don't know enough about it to make that determination), but I am saying that this is the reason why there is concern and some complaints. These complaints could be well founded, or they could not be. None of us can make that determination accurately right now with the information we have. However, it's should be easy for everyone to understand that it would completely suck if your local grocery store started getting shipped garbage food just because some guy in a corporate office decided to draw a big circle around your neighborhood.


We have similar problems here in the US - right here in our nation's capital in fact. But the issue isn't as clear cut as you make it. Problem: people in affluent suburbs have access to mainstream grocery chains as well as perhaps some higher end specialty stores, so that they have access to acceptable food at reasonable prices. People in poorer neighborhoods have to either find transportation to the suburban stores, or make due with small, mom and pop stores that are basically glorified convenience stores which charge higher prices and sometimes only carry non-perishables without fresh meat or veggies at all.

But is the real problem that the mom and pops are discriminatory by not providing the items that the people in the ghetto need? Not necessarily. Their operating costs are higher, their insurance is higher, because they are in a high crime risk area; they also don't have the purchasing power of the big chains so their costs for merchandise are higher. Are the big chains then discriminatory because they won't move to the ghetto? They likely just have correctly determined that if they are going to open a new store they will do so in an area similar to those they already serve, with a mostly well behaved (using the term loosely, I hate grocery shopping) customer base and they don't want to deal with the increased losses from shoplifting and the violent crime that goes along with being in a poor neighborhood.

The solution, of course, is for poor people to stop being criminals, but tell that to someone who doesn't feel they have a hope of ever getting a good paying straight job, and may have other mouths to feed than his own. (of course, there's always the wannabe or real gangstas as well.)

There's more factors in play than just racism. Problems exist in poor white communities as well.
 
2010-12-30 01:16:48 AM
F22raptom: "We just find this deeply offensive and racist, frankly."

I laughed so hard when I read that. Havnt heard THAT line before


Don't call me Frankly.

Recycling Sharpton and Jackson to other countries might not be such a bad idea.

/Sharpton and Jackson are certainly not chicken; occasionally they do speak for a portion of the population that don't have many speaking up for them. S & J can be embarrassing in their methods, but they have their uses.
 
2010-12-30 01:24:32 AM
What Guy:
/Sharpton and Jackson are certainly not chicken; occasionally they do speak for a portion of the population that don't have many speaking up for them. S & J can be embarrassing in their methods, but they have their uses.


Sharpton in particular would do the American Black community a favor if he would just STFU. He perpetuates a victim mentality and is an idiotic buffoon. He's done about as much good for blacks as Yassar Arafat has for Palestinians.

/if he had any credibility left, he lost the last shreds with the Duke rape thing
 
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