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2010-12-29 02:13:01 PM
Beck went on to say the stones were purposely kept out of history books by the government and the Smithsonian Institution.

No, that sort of idiotic historical hackery is usually reserved for the new History Channel.
 
2010-12-29 02:43:50 PM
As an Ohio resident myself, I'm pretty fascinated by the Hopewell and Adena cultures- and through extensive research and living among the Ohio people for some time now, I have concluded that The Moundbuilders were bored out of their goddamn minds and had nothing else to do.
 
2010-12-29 03:12:54 PM
This is a man who promotes a religion whose main texts were given to a guy by an angel by the name of Moroni. Moron-i. Apparently, Mr. Smith was visited by a dumb Italian angel with a-horrible accent...

Yes, I have trouble with folks who convert to Mormonism. Folks born to the church? They can't help their parents, and the TFettes I know who are Mormons, well, to be fair, they're all on the outs with the LDS anyway, for wanting to live normal lives. But converting to Mormonism, for nookie? That is special brand of crazy.

Mind you--there is some evidence that suggests possible Polynesian contact that was Pre-Columbian. As well as the Tolucca Valley terra cotta head that suggests possible Roman contact--possibly through the Phoenicians--dated for 800BC-1270AD, but there is question of authenticity, and whether or not it was planted there. Likewise, there have been supposed amphorae supposedly found off the coast of Brazil, but likewise, may have been a deliberate hoax.

Then there's the Bat Creek and Los Lunas Decalogue Stone, which suggest Jewish contact in Pre-Columbian times, which should make the LDS heads asplode. And the Olmec statuary that has long been suggested show an African presence in Meso-America long before Whitey showed up. And then later suggested contact by the Mali in the early 1300s.

The Olmecs have also been theorized by some to have had contact with the Chinese towards the end of the Shang Dynasty. And the legends of Fusang have been suggested show contact with California. And likewise, there has been suggested Indian contact as well, for similarities in some paintings of supposed maize flowers. And there's been suggestion that Jomon pottery forms have been found in Meso-America as well--though, not with a lot of support.

What does blow some minds are the theories that the Inca visited the Galapagos and Easter Islands--and possibly the Azores.

While there are a LOT of theories out there, none of these supposed contacts has been confirmed with any real scholarly weight. But, they make for fun theorizing and tale spinning.
 
2010-12-29 03:16:19 PM
Yeah, well Glenn Beck doesn't mind that SOME historical events are covered up, if you know what I mean...
 
2010-12-29 03:21:25 PM
dahmers love zombie: Yeah, well Glenn Beck doesn't mind that SOME historical events are covered up, if you know what I mean...

I don't think events that may or may not have taken place in 1990 are old enough to be considered historical, though.
 
2010-12-29 03:54:25 PM
It's like Beck goes out of his way to find new topics to spew his stupidity on. It's like he's never had a thought he didn't share.

/1990 never forget
 
2010-12-29 04:01:20 PM
hubiestubert: This is a man who promotes a religion whose main texts were given to a guy by an angel by the name of Moroni. Moron-i. Apparently, Mr. Smith was visited by a dumb Italian angel with a-horrible accent...

Yes, I have trouble with folks who convert to Mormonism. Folks born to the church? They can't help their parents, and the TFettes I know who are Mormons, well, to be fair, they're all on the outs with the LDS anyway, for wanting to live normal lives. But converting to Mormonism, for nookie? That is special brand of crazy.

Mind you--there is some evidence that suggests possible Polynesian contact that was Pre-Columbian. As well as the Tolucca Valley terra cotta head that suggests possible Roman contact--possibly through the Phoenicians--dated for 800BC-1270AD, but there is question of authenticity, and whether or not it was planted there. Likewise, there have been supposed amphorae supposedly found off the coast of Brazil, but likewise, may have been a deliberate hoax.

Then there's the Bat Creek and Los Lunas Decalogue Stone, which suggest Jewish contact in Pre-Columbian times, which should make the LDS heads asplode. And the Olmec statuary that has long been suggested show an African presence in Meso-America long before Whitey showed up. And then later suggested contact by the Mali in the early 1300s.

The Olmecs have also been theorized by some to have had contact with the Chinese towards the end of the Shang Dynasty. And the legends of Fusang have been suggested show contact with California. And likewise, there has been suggested Indian contact as well, for similarities in some paintings of supposed maize flowers. And there's been suggestion that Jomon pottery forms have been found in Meso-America as well--though, not with a lot of support.

What does blow some minds are the theories that the Inca visited the Galapagos and Easter Islands--and possibly the Azores.

While there are a LOT of theories out there, none of these supposed contacts has been confirmed with any real scholarly weight. But, they make for fun theorizing and tale spinning.


I also wonder why the natives of the Yucatan made so many carvings of bearded people when they don't have beards themselves.
 
2010-12-29 04:35:31 PM
muck4doo: I also wonder why the natives of the Yucatan made so many carvings of bearded people when they don't have beards themselves.

Clear evidence of a Viking presence in Central America.
 
2010-12-29 04:38:51 PM
Cagey B: muck4doo: I also wonder why the natives of the Yucatan made so many carvings of bearded people when they don't have beards themselves.

Clear evidence of a Viking presence in Central America.


I think it was Phoenicians myself. They were getting lots of riches from somewhere and were masters of the seas.
 
2010-12-29 05:13:33 PM
Dum dum dum dum dum!
 
2010-12-29 05:14:07 PM
Mormon fantasies? Can those words be used together in the same sentence like that?

/Utahn
 
2010-12-29 05:14:17 PM
Glenn Beck is wrong??!?!?

SOMEBODY CALL CNN!
 
2010-12-29 05:15:11 PM
Isn't "Paranod Mormon" redundant?
 
2010-12-29 05:16:02 PM
Call Nicholas Cage, here's another awful movie for him to star in
 
2010-12-29 05:17:44 PM
CtrlAltDelete: As an Ohio resident myself, I'm pretty fascinated by the Hopewell and Adena cultures- and through extensive research and living among the Ohio people for some time now, I have concluded that The Moundbuilders were bored out of their goddamn minds and had nothing else to do.

Thirty years ago, a good friend of mine worked at the Mound City site in Chillicothe. I remember him telling me that every couple of months some whackjob or another would come in and babble some stupid theory about how the mounds were proof of Mormonism or alien visitors or Viking visitors or something.

Agreed, though. Southern Ohio would be enough to bore anyone to the point of building big dirt piles.
 
2010-12-29 05:17:45 PM
Glenn Beck is acting like a paranoid whack-job? You're KIDDING.
 
2010-12-29 05:17:54 PM
six of the experts interviewed for the film, including an Ohio archaeologist, released a letter that says the documentary advances unsubstantiated claims, uses their words out of context and highlights artifacts that have proved to be fraudulent to advance a "fringe" archaeological belief.

So...like Glenn Beck is working with Michael Moore now?

/Beck is a nut case.
 
2010-12-29 05:18:50 PM
RoxtarRyan: dahmers love zombie: Yeah, well Glenn Beck doesn't mind that SOME historical events are covered up, if you know what I mean...

I don't think events that may or may not have taken place in 1990 are old enough to be considered historical, though.


what happened in 1990?
 
2010-12-29 05:19:23 PM
I have determined, after extensive surveying, tabulation, and data analysis, that the average creationist in the US earns $21,387.29 in family income; owns 1.2 cars, 1.8 TVs, and 2.3 kids; and has, at some point in his life, answered to the name "Bubba." He has less than one year of college. Yet he knows more about paleontology than Bakker or Horner or Currie (or he thinks that what they know is wrong-same thing). He knows more about the definition of evolution than Gould or Dawkins. He knows more about biology than Dobzhansky or Mayr. He knows more about cosmology than Hawking, Smoot, or Witten, and more about human fossils than Johanson or the Leakeys. He knows more "true" geology than geologists, more physics than physicists, more astronomy than astronomers-and more about everything than atheists like Asimov or Sagan.

Humble, they're not.
 
2010-12-29 05:19:26 PM
hubiestubert: Yes, I have trouble with folks who convert to Mormonism. Folks born to the church? They can't help their parents, and the TFettes I know who are Mormons, well, to be fair, they're all on the outs with the LDS anyway, for wanting to live normal lives. But converting to Mormonism, for nookie? That is special brand of crazy.

How is that any crazier than converting to any other religion?
 
2010-12-29 05:20:09 PM
Justiceforme: RoxtarRyan: dahmers love zombie: Yeah, well Glenn Beck doesn't mind that SOME historical events are covered up, if you know what I mean...

I don't think events that may or may not have taken place in 1990 are old enough to be considered historical, though.

what happened in 1990?


never mind, google was quick to learn me.
 
2010-12-29 05:20:26 PM
I'll wager that 'Despicable Me" is more historically accurate than anything from this (very wealthy) bunch of delusionists - especailly when promoted by the Chief Delusionist.
 
2010-12-29 05:20:54 PM
The worst part is that the level of discourse is so bad that if I brought this to people whom I frequently disagree politically they would just say the columbus dispatch is a liberal rag.
 
2010-12-29 05:21:04 PM
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Glenn has gone full Dale Gribble.
 
2010-12-29 05:21:29 PM
hubiestubert: This is a man who promotes a religion whose main texts were given to a guy by an angel by the name of Moroni. Moron-i. Apparently, Mr. Smith was visited by a dumb Italian angel with a-horrible accent...

kristiemanning.files.wordpress.com
 
2010-12-29 05:21:57 PM
Sorry Glenn.

Joseph Smith was a charlatan and a fraud. It's just too bad he got so many to believe him.

//Same goes for L. Ron
 
2010-12-29 05:23:24 PM
In one segment, Lepper describes the size and scope of the Octagon Earthworks, explaining that multiple Roman coliseums or Egyptian pyramids could fit within the earthworks.

socialbaron.files.wordpress.com

Unimpressed.
 
2010-12-29 05:23:30 PM
I also wonder why the natives of the Yucatan made so many carvings of bearded people when they don't have beards themselves.

Maybe for the same reason guys with little dicks drive big cars.
 
2010-12-29 05:24:15 PM
Glen Beck is a cock. I don't remember for sure, but there's a very good chance I heard him back in the day when he was a DJ on KRBE.

KRBE sucked though so I might not have heard him unless KLOL or that other classic rock station (KRBE was shiat-rock - i.e. pop) was doing a commercial break.


Farking wake up people. This is a guy who couldn't make it as a DJ. He is an idiot and an asshole. And I'm somewhat right-leaning in my political views. He does nothing but generate ratings and make Republicans look bad.

Of course this is all the fault of Limbaughdiots. Were it not for Rush, Beck would probably be an AM DJ and I would probably be a registered Republican. Then again the GOP wouldn't be down with trampling rights and waving flags instead of solving actual problems.
 
2010-12-29 05:25:37 PM
KrmtDfrog: Call Nicholas Cage, here's another awful movie for him to star in

...with yet another "I'm not bald, honest" long haired wig for him to wear.
 
2010-12-29 05:27:33 PM
Religion...slowing down mankind's progress for more than 2000 years.

I think it is time to add religion as part of the definition of mental disorders like schizophrenia and treat religion as a serious mental problem.
 
2010-12-29 05:28:05 PM
hubiestubert: This is a man who promotes a religion whose main texts were given to a guy by an angel by the name of Moroni. Moron-i. Apparently, Mr. Smith was visited by a dumb Italian angel with a-horrible accent...

Yes, I have trouble with folks who convert to Mormonism. Folks born to the church? They can't help their parents, and the TFettes I know who are Mormons, well, to be fair, they're all on the outs with the LDS anyway, for wanting to live normal lives. But converting to Mormonism, for nookie? That is special brand of crazy.

Mind you--there is some evidence that suggests possible Polynesian contact that was Pre-Columbian. As well as the Tolucca Valley terra cotta head that suggests possible Roman contact--possibly through the Phoenicians--dated for 800BC-1270AD, but there is question of authenticity, and whether or not it was planted there. Likewise, there have been supposed amphorae supposedly found off the coast of Brazil, but likewise, may have been a deliberate hoax.

Then there's the Bat Creek and Los Lunas Decalogue Stone, which suggest Jewish contact in Pre-Columbian times, which should make the LDS heads asplode. And the Olmec statuary that has long been suggested show an African presence in Meso-America long before Whitey showed up. And then later suggested contact by the Mali in the early 1300s.

The Olmecs have also been theorized by some to have had contact with the Chinese towards the end of the Shang Dynasty. And the legends of Fusang have been suggested show contact with California. And likewise, there has been suggested Indian contact as well, for similarities in some paintings of supposed maize flowers. And there's been suggestion that Jomon pottery forms have been found in Meso-America as well--though, not with a lot of support.

What does blow some minds are the theories that the Inca visited the Galapagos and Easter Islands--and possibly the Azores.

While there are a LOT of theories out there, none of these supposed contacts has been confirmed with any real scholarly weight. But, they make for fun theorizing and tale spinning.


yeah... Moroni? That names rings with insincerity-- it sounds so made up. I would have believed most anything else... well, to the extent that it is is believable. The Angel Moroni.

/would have believed Tenderoni
//what a riot. The Angel Tenderoni.
 
2010-12-29 05:28:15 PM
hubiestubert: This is a man who promotes a religion whose main texts were given to a guy by an angel by the name of Moroni. Moron-i. Apparently, Mr. Smith was visited by a dumb Italian angel with a-horrible accent...

I feel you have a career in debate
 
2010-12-29 05:28:19 PM
Glenn Beck woke up after the mid-term elections and realized he had nothing to spew until 2012

This is the result

Pity him
 
2010-12-29 05:29:10 PM
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2010-12-29 05:29:56 PM
Rambino: hubiestubert: Yes, I have trouble with folks who convert to Mormonism. Folks born to the church? They can't help their parents, and the TFettes I know who are Mormons, well, to be fair, they're all on the outs with the LDS anyway, for wanting to live normal lives. But converting to Mormonism, for nookie? That is special brand of crazy.

How is that any crazier than converting to any other religion?


To be honest, one big reason is that most religions suffer from lack of tangible evidence of their legitimacy, while Mormonism suffers from significant tangible evidence that Smith was a fraud.

/father was a Mormon Bishop
//so, yes, I am getting a kick out of these replies
 
2010-12-29 05:31:19 PM
Happy Hours: Of course this is all the fault of Limbaughdiots. Were it not for Rush, Beck would probably be an AM DJ and I would probably be a registered Republican. Then again the GOP wouldn't be down with trampling rights and waving flags instead of solving actual problems.

I find it tough to believe that the asshattery* of the Republican party over the past decade is the fault of two or three people.

*and by that I mean basically what you said. How a party can claim to be about small government while pushing their intrusive agenda is insane.
 
2010-12-29 05:33:01 PM
hubiestubert:

Yes, I have trouble with folks who convert to Mormonism. Folks born to the church? They can't help their parents, and the TFettes I know who are Mormons, well, to be fair, they're all on the outs with the LDS anyway, for wanting to live normal lives. But converting to Mormonism, for nookie? That is special brand of crazy.


I was raised as a Mormon who left the church at 15 years old. For a few years, I tried to settle into a new religion. Know what I found out?

Every religion is crazy.

For example, for comparison:

Mormons believe they existed in Heaven before life on earth, and will someday become gods/goddesses of their own worlds.

Catholics believe that the wheat crackers and wine they drink literally turn into the body and blood of a Jewish man who (debatably) lived in Israel 2,000 years ago.

Jews believe that a bone in the neck will act as a seed at the end of days that will allow everyone to be resurrected and walk again, wearing the same clothes as when they were alive.

Mainstream Protestant flavors believe that giant beasts with multiple heads will scour the earth. And that a sword will fly out of a man's mouth, after the faithfully religious float up into the sky, to relax in a place where people do nothing but praise Jesus for ever and ever, and the streets are paved with gold (which is only valuable in reality due to its scarcity - it's only formed in supernovas, after all).

Needless to say, I quickly became an atheist. The rest of my family followed a few years later.
 
2010-12-29 05:33:45 PM
Dear normal people,

Glenn Beck doesn't represent most of us. We're a little weird, sure, but hopefully not Beck-weird. Thank you for your understanding.

Sincerely,

a Mormon

/bring on the bashing
 
2010-12-29 05:33:51 PM
SharkTrager: Rambino: hubiestubert: Yes, I have trouble with folks who convert to Mormonism. Folks born to the church? They can't help their parents, and the TFettes I know who are Mormons, well, to be fair, they're all on the outs with the LDS anyway, for wanting to live normal lives. But converting to Mormonism, for nookie? That is special brand of crazy.

How is that any crazier than converting to any other religion?

To be honest, one big reason is that most religions suffer from lack of tangible evidence of their legitimacy, while Mormonism suffers from significant tangible evidence that Smith was a fraud.

/father was a Mormon Bishop
//so, yes, I am getting a kick out of these replies


it's sad watching people try to justify smith's made-up shiat after the fact.
 
2010-12-29 05:35:18 PM
"A major focus of the documentary, and Beck's television segment, were the Newark Holy Stones. Discovered in the 1860s by David Wyrick, a Licking County surveyor, the stones contain Hebrew writing and are used by some to prove the link between the prehistoric Americans and Old World civilizations. Others, including most archaeologists, believe the stones are a fraud, carved in modern times and hidden in the earthworks for Wyrick to find.

"What the film 'claimed' is that these artifacts were controversial: Some accepted them and some don't," the documentary's producers wrote. Beck presented the stones as authentic artifacts during his Aug. 18 broadcast.

"I was blown away!" he said on the program. "I didn't know the story of these. ... Do you live in Ohio, and did you know that? Why not?"

Beck went on to say the stones were purposely kept out of history books by the government and the Smithsonian Institution."


Of course they were kept out of history books. After all everyone in the world knows that archaeological evidence has NEVER been faked in the history of mankind.

/sarcasm
 
2010-12-29 05:36:21 PM
Found in an Ohio backyard:
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Inscription has been translated by an expert and reads:
"Glenn Beck raped and murdered a young girl in 1990"
 
2010-12-29 05:36:41 PM
People, please, do not call Glenn Beck a retard or an idiot or a moran. I beg of you. Do not use those terms when talking about Glenn Beck! It is an incredibly degrading insult to retards and idiots and morans the world over.
 
2010-12-29 05:37:49 PM
I second Beck shut up; do I hear a third?

;)
 
2010-12-29 05:38:32 PM
UNC_Samurai: Beck went on to say the stones were purposely kept out of history books by the government and the Smithsonian Institution.

No, that sort of idiotic historical hackery is usually reserved for the new History Channel.


I completely agree.

As a high school history teacher, I make it a point to avoid showing my students stuff from the History Channel. They used to be well thought out, coherent, and scholarly. But now that channel is too focused around ratings and "wild stuff" in order to garner attention.

(However, they do have some good stuff, you just have to be very discerning.)
 
2010-12-29 05:38:37 PM
Sadly, I know a lot of people who would eat this sh*t up. They're the kind who believe archaeologists are just people who look for proof of Noah's ark.
 
2010-12-29 05:40:10 PM
Mock26: People, please, do not call Glenn Beck a retard or an idiot or a moran. I beg of you. Do not use those terms when talking about Glenn Beck! It is an incredibly degrading insult to retards and idiots and morans the world over.

Exactly. He's not stupid, a retard, or anything. He's a self-important greedy man. He simply plays the field knowing what will sell to people and what will give him attention. Whatever consequences on the world around him, in his mind, are the fault of the people who buy it. He has stated on the record that he's an entertainer (because doing so will allow him to get away with it). He just knows how to legally play the field and cash in on as much as possible.
 
2010-12-29 05:42:08 PM
Was this tha fargin' bastidge callin' himself tha Angel Moroni?

3.gvt0.com
 
2010-12-29 05:44:29 PM
I'll believe what Glenn Beck is saying... if he's six foot five.
 
2010-12-29 05:47:02 PM
This is the kind of crap they are passing off as a show on the "History" channel nowadays. 30 seconds of some random person saying alot of people don't believe this stuff, and the rest of the show trying yo convince you it just might be possible. "hey, were just saying."
 
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