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2010-12-24 04:27:59 AM
Him: Go in find it, buy it, leave.

Her: Go in...
 
2010-12-24 04:51:10 AM
www.thepocket.com

/oblig
//they should have a bar in all shopping malls
 
2010-12-24 05:09:45 AM
+1 subby. Would read again.
 
2010-12-24 06:01:06 AM
"Stop walking so fast! I can't keep up with you!"
 
2010-12-24 06:22:44 AM
Men are hunters.

Women are gatherers.
 
2010-12-24 06:56:26 AM
Headline is inaccurate. Women browse and forage AND want to kill someone.
 
2010-12-24 08:17:49 AM
zilong: //they should have a bar in all shopping malls

t0.gstatic.com

Agrees
 
2010-12-24 11:37:41 AM
What's a shopping mall?

/amazon for the win
 
2010-12-24 11:42:01 AM
log_jammin: "Stop walking so fast! I can't keep up with you!"

+1
 
2010-12-24 12:22:28 PM
I must be a traitor to my kind then, as I only go clothes shopping twice a year when I realize I have a hole in my jeans or something. Christmas shopping was done in about two hours this year.

/they're just things, after all, and everyone I know already has too many
 
2010-12-24 01:15:20 PM
I cannot stand shopping. Unless it is a nice quiet area, otherwise i get the runs.
 
2010-12-24 01:38:20 PM
zilong: /oblig
//they should have a bar in all shopping malls


They have a Fox Sports bar in the Houston Galleria. I go with my girl to the mall, but I stop and plant myself at Fox Sports.
 
2010-12-24 01:49:55 PM
This is why I hate Walmart, people like to stop and chat if they see someone they know, turning an isle into a one lane road. And that brings up another thing, people who walk side by side down a crowded isle.

/Kudos, Subby. Gave me a nice status for my Facebook page.
 
2010-12-24 01:51:13 PM
Have yourself a stabby little Christmas....
 
2010-12-24 01:51:39 PM
lerry: This is why I hate Walmart, people like to stop and chat if they see someone they know, turning an isle into a one lane road. And that brings up another thing, people who walk side by side down a crowded isle.

AISLE... I MEANT AISLE!!!
 
2010-12-24 01:52:03 PM
The only place I'll browse is the used game section of a game store, to see if there's anything good in there.

/Once found the original silent hill for $10.
//Still have no idea how I managed that.
 
2010-12-24 01:54:07 PM
Andromeda: I must be a traitor to my kind then, as I only go clothes shopping twice a year when I realize I have a hole in my jeans or something. Christmas shopping was done in about two hours this year.

/they're just things, after all, and everyone I know already has too many


I just clicked on your profile, and by god you are an amazing person
 
2010-12-24 01:54:37 PM
zilong: /oblig
//they should have a bar in all shopping malls


A man would never go into The Gap to buy a pair of pants.

/Why is it called a "pair of pants"?
//It's a single item, why the plural phrase?
///Agree with you about putting bars in the malls.
 
2010-12-24 01:59:48 PM
I admit that I only go shopping for clothes out of necessity, generally I cannot wait to get out of the store and go do something more fun. But if I am looking for a gadget or something else useful I like taking time. Jewelry shopping, not so much, buying a router table a nail gun and an eyelet punch? What's the hurry!
 
2010-12-24 02:01:01 PM
Whatthefark: zilong: /oblig
//they should have a bar in all shopping malls

A man would never go into The Gap to buy a pair of pants.


A gay man would.

/just saying, that seems to be their target demographic.
//I only go in when I'm being dragged, I swear
 
2010-12-24 02:08:00 PM
<trl>
Obviously liberal submitard is anti-christmas and anti-christian as every christian knows the world is only 6000 years old and this hunter/gatherer society these athiest "scientists" speak of is a ploy to establish a revisionist world history...
</trl>
 
2010-12-24 02:08:51 PM
images2.wikia.nocookie.net
So what is the deal with people from under the orange sun women shoppers? They're all... But us guys from under the red sun, we're like... Right? Am I right?
 
2010-12-24 02:10:18 PM
AcneVulgaris: Have yourself a stabby little Christmas....

getting a kick cause I'm just getting ready to sta
 
2010-12-24 02:11:50 PM
Summary of article, and every article ever with this theme:

Women be shopping.
 
2010-12-24 02:13:02 PM
Jormungandr: I admit that I only go shopping for clothes out of necessity, generally I cannot wait to get out of the store and go do something more fun. But if I am looking for a gadget or something else useful I like taking time. Jewelry shopping, not so much, buying a router table a nail gun and an eyelet punch? What's the hurry!

My wife buys my clothes. Last time I went clothes shopping was at an army surplus store ...back in 1995 or so.

/not sure if she dresses me funny
 
2010-12-24 02:23:47 PM
Kids get cash, adults get booze. Christmas shopping was done in 30 minutes.

/female
 
2010-12-24 02:23:58 PM
Go hunting at department stores- otherwise is financially hazardous. Go foraging in the thrift and consignment stores.

/not sure whether swoop bidding for second-hand designer clothes on eBay is hunting or gathering
//does most shopping online
 
2010-12-24 02:25:36 PM
Ridiculously enlightening and educational article. Would read compulsively over and over again, maybe print it out and put it in my car, home, and office.

Honestly I don't know how I ever truly lived before this hard-hitting, in-depth look at the relationship between our primitive screw-head ancestor monkey humans in the lower Paleolithic age trying not to get eaten by giant lizards, and buying khakis at the banana republic.
 
2010-12-24 02:36:24 PM
Jupiter's Thunder: Ridiculously enlightening and educational article. Would read compulsively over and over again, maybe print it out and put it in my car, home, and office.

Honestly I don't know how I ever truly lived before this hard-hitting, in-depth look at the relationship between our primitive screw-head ancestor monkey humans in the lower Paleolithic age trying not to get eaten by giant lizards, and buying khakis at the banana republic.


You know what I hate? Sarcastic farkers.
 
2010-12-24 02:37:11 PM
eddyatwork: What's a shopping mall?

/amazon for the win


Agreed. I did most of my shopping on Amazon this year. Paid far less for most of it, too.

Andromeda: I must be a traitor to my kind then, as I only go clothes shopping twice a year when I realize I have a hole in my jeans or something. Christmas shopping was done in about two hours this year.

/they're just things, after all, and everyone I know already has too many


I mostly baked for people this year. All my friends would rather have my brownies than new stuff...we've all got too much junk.

Does anyone else go clothes shopping right after Halloween, when all the themed stuff is half off?

/Zombie and skull t-shirts for the win!
 
2010-12-24 02:37:20 PM
freefall.purrsia.com
 
2010-12-24 02:38:04 PM
Andromeda: I must be a traitor to my kind then, as I only go clothes shopping twice a year when I realize I have a hole in my jeans or something. Christmas shopping was done in about two hours this year.

marry me
 
2010-12-24 02:46:05 PM
I guess it is sort of like hunting when I'm buying something important. I wait patiently, my keen instincts primed to realize the moment of opportunity, and then, with skill and precision I shoot it in the face pay half the price for twice the product.

Women I know are like:
IS THAT JAMIE LEE CURTIS? SHE'S A CELEBRITY SHE MUST KNOW ALOT ABOUT PUDDING AND CERTAINLY WOULDN'T LIE EVER
A COMMERCIAL WHICH LOOSELY DISGUISES A EUPHEMISM FOR MASTURBATION TO SELL CHOCOLATE? I'LL TAKE EIGHT

Companies know about this and exploit it every way they can, which is why I tell people to never buy anything marketed to women.

/not women's fault, guys do it too
//it's the education system
 
2010-12-24 02:46:11 PM
Felgraf: The only place I'll browse is the used game section of a game store, to see if there's anything good in there.

/Once found the original silent hill for $10.
//Still have no idea how I managed that.


I was at the mall a couple of days ago behind a couple who were arguing with the cashier at Gamestop. I had to stand there for 15 minutes while they were yelling at this poor guy about how game X wasn't being sold with the Playstation 2 controller bundle pack, and how were they supposed give it as a gift if they couldn't get both together? I finally interrupted and told them to check half.com, amazon.com and ebay...they'd find what they wanted, and at likely a much cheaper price. They walked out of there reasonably happy...

...and then the sales clerk I felt so sorry for told me I was on the wrong side of the store, and that he wouldn't help me until I got to the end of the other long line on the opposite side. :(

/Still waiting to get a PS3 so I can play the PS3 extended version of RE5 with Chris and Jill's story

//girl gamer - I've got no guy friends to play co-op with on the second Umbrella Chronicles game. Wah!
 
2010-12-24 02:46:19 PM
Malls ... schmalls. Shopped Amazon for e-gift cards and other stuff while sitting around watching hockey or football. Bought the fiance some shiny baubles in October when I was out of town.
 
2010-12-24 02:46:28 PM
log_jammin
"Stop walking so fast! I can't keep up with you!"

You've taken my wife shopping too??
 
2010-12-24 02:56:38 PM
cloud_van_dame: Go hunting at department stores- otherwise is financially hazardous. Go foraging in the thrift and consignment stores.

/not sure whether swoop bidding for second-hand designer clothes on eBay is hunting or gathering
//does most shopping online


This.
Online shopping is largely hunting. Mall shopping is done as hunting. I only go when I need something specific. I hunt it down and leave. If it takes too long to find said item I leave in disgust. Now eBay and thrift stores.. I could burn up an entire day foraging.

/Bought most of my gifts on Amazon this year.
//Did some last minute shopping this morning, yea I wanted to kill a few things while I was at it.
 
2010-12-24 03:13:24 PM
JesseL: Jupiter's Thunder: Ridiculously enlightening and educational article. Would read compulsively over and over again, maybe print it out and put it in my car, home, and office.

Honestly I don't know how I ever truly lived before this hard-hitting, in-depth look at the relationship between our primitive screw-head ancestor monkey humans in the lower Paleolithic age trying not to get eaten by giant lizards, and buying khakis at the banana republic.

You know what I hate? Sarcastic farkers.



That can't be true! That's the very definition of fark!!

Wait a minute. . .


i.imgur.com


/sarcasm and trolls. It does a growing fark good.
 
2010-12-24 03:28:06 PM
Andromeda: I must be a traitor to my kind then, as I only go clothes shopping twice a year when I realize I have a hole in my jeans or something. Christmas shopping was done in about two hours this year.

/they're just things, after all, and everyone I know already has too many


Awesome!

/I was reading your blog and thought it was weird that I instantly recognized the HE cosmic ray observatory
 
2010-12-24 03:38:37 PM
As a male, I nominate the douche bag hawking cellphones as the primary 'kill target' at the mall.

/and then we toss a grenade into the Fashion Slug for good measure
 
2010-12-24 03:39:30 PM
I went to individual stores to get presents. Never once went to a mall. Should have gone to a mall.
 
2010-12-24 03:48:07 PM
Moonlightfox: Women I know are like:
IS THAT JAMIE LEE CURTIS? SHE'S A CELEBRITY SHE MUST KNOW ALOT ABOUT PUDDING AND CERTAINLY WOULDN'T LIE EVER
A COMMERCIAL WHICH LOOSELY DISGUISES A EUPHEMISM FOR MASTURBATION TO SELL CHOCOLATE? I'LL TAKE EIGHT


What the hell kind of pudding do you eat?
 
2010-12-24 03:48:47 PM
t2.gstatic.com
This place has got everything.
 
2010-12-24 03:57:12 PM
Andromeda: I must be a traitor to my kind then, as I only go clothes shopping twice a year when I realize I have a hole in my jeans or something. Christmas shopping was done in about two hours this year.

/they're just things, after all, and everyone I know already has too many


Judging by the fact that you are hanging with a large chained Tiger in your pic, maybe, just maybe, you got some crossover in your genetics. Either that, or you satisfy your gathering instincts in some other way.
 
2010-12-24 04:00:32 PM
ghostofreasonpast: Either that, or you satisfy your gathering instincts in some other way.

Or, genetics doesn't have anything to do with it and people are attempting to justify social conventions with appeals to a misunderstanding of biology and evolutionary theory.
 
2010-12-24 04:11:13 PM
Baloney.

There is no mechanism by which a sexually differentiated behavior pattern established by hunter-gatherer ancestors would have been propagated to modern males and females. It simply does not exist.

However, if hormonal differences typical for males and females cause differences in the brain that in turn lead to differences in cognition that would then cause typical females to find browsing-type behavior more rewarding than males find it to be, or would cause typical females to be better at browsing-type behavior than typical males, that could explain why females in a hunter-gatherer society tended to be the gatherers, and also why females in a modern society might tend to shop differently than males. The biology drives the behavior in the past and the present, and natural selection operates on the result of both.

There is an explanation, but it does not rest in psychology. The dependency of gender specific behaviors on the levels of sex hormones can be and has been tested. Male pattern behaviors can be induced in female mice and rats by elevating testosterone at key developmental points. This can be observed in humans as well, and it would be possible, if not practical, to test it in humans. The common biological source for typical male behavior and typical female behavior in the distant past and in the present can be tested. It can be falsified. The scientific method can be properly applied.

That is not to say that evolution has no role in determining the frequency of behaviors, ideas, or cognitive patterns. Evolution does act on behaviors and ideas; populations with behaviors and ideas that are adaptive to their conditions will thrive. Natural selection works on behaviors and ideas, too. It works better to bring children along while gathering than it does to bring them along while hunting. You can stop to feed a baby while gathering, and the berry bush isn't going to go anywhere. You can't stop while tracking game. If the toddler won't stop babbling while gathering, it's not going to scare the mushrooms away. In a hunter-gatherer society, if the children need to go along on an activity, the women will have to bring them. Why? Because the women are the ones with the tits to feed the babies. Ergo, people who have babies to feed go gather, people who are not feeding babies go hunt. It would be possible to test this as well; it is still possible to hunt and gather. It is entirely possible to test the effectiveness of male and female hunters and gatherers with and without children present, and determine what factors (if any) are correlated with the amount of and quality of food produced.

Sorry for the long rant, but I think most evolutionary psychology is garbage. Most of it seems to consist of constructing analogies between the past as it was imagined and the present as it is imagined, and calling that analogy an explanation. It takes words and ideas from several branches of scientific thought that actually are valid and combines them to produce just-so stories, and those stories explain not why things are the way they are, but why they can't be any different. It is a quasi-religious world view that replaces traditional myths of the past with new myths, and interprets the myths it creates to explain the modern world. It is no more rational or scientific than its religious cousin, intelligent design, and like its cousin, it is not useful for its explicit purpose of explaining how the world and we in it came to be as we are. Like its cousin, it is useful only as a fig leaf of apparent rationality to cover naked mythology; it is the same kind of thinking that has been used since the late 1800s to rationalize racism, sexism, and generational poverty. It is an unenlightened, psuedoscientific sham that ought to be thrown on the junk heap along with phrenology and hereditarianism, and there forgotten rot.
 
2010-12-24 04:15:00 PM
t3knomanser: ghostofreasonpast: Either that, or you satisfy your gathering instincts in some other way.

Or, genetics doesn't have anything to do with it and people are attempting to justify social conventions with appeals to a misunderstanding of biology and evolutionary theory.


You cut right to the heart of it!

You must be a male.
 
2010-12-24 04:21:53 PM
t3knomanser: ghostofreasonpast: Either that, or you satisfy your gathering instincts in some other way.

Or, genetics doesn't have anything to do with it and people are attempting to justify social conventions with appeals to a misunderstanding of biology and evolutionary theory.


*wild applause* Very nicely done.
 
2010-12-24 04:32:44 PM
Moonlightfox: //it's the education system

Exactly. When people get their history from TV docudramas and their science from the Discovery Channel, you know something's not quite right.
 
2010-12-24 04:35:42 PM
offmymeds: Moonlightfox: //it's the education system

Exactly. When people get their history from TV docudramas and their science from the Discovery Channel, you know something's not quite right.


If it can't be rendered as a suspenseful re-enactment, it isn't history.
 
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