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(KOCO)   Driver of 1000+ HP 'vette posts Youtube video of himself driving 190 mph. Also video of car's license plate. Predictably, he's arrested   (koco.com) divider line 222
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2010-12-23 12:34:05 AM  
The issue really isn't the speed Captain Assclown was going, it was the delta between his speed and the others on the highway.

Some poor schmuck tooling down the freeway is closing on a car in front of him at ~2MPH, checks his mirror sees a car a couple hundred yards back, and pulls out to pass. Really hard to tell speed from a rear view mirror. The ~90MPH rate of closure makes the gap shrink by about 44 yards per second.

How long does it take a car to stop from that speed?

With that in mind, have you ever watched a mixed class endurance race? 24 Hours of Le Mans, 24 Hours of Daytona, anything in the American Le Mans Series? They mix production based classes with prototype classes. There are accidents regularly between faster and slower classed cars, and they are professional drivers, on a racetrack, and most importantly expecting cars to be coming up behind them going significantly faster.

The class speed differences in those race series are nowhere near the differential that moron was going. And even then, pro drivers have accidents when they know faster cars are coming.

What chance does some dude driving down the freeway have if he happens to decide to change lanes at the wrong time?

Take it to the track.

Oh, and for the record, that "Ghostrider" dude is a titanic moron. He will end up a red smear, if he hasn't already.
 
2010-12-23 12:39:03 AM  
Ok, here's the direct link to the Camaro at the Silver State, Yee hah.

And the Texas Mile.
 
2010-12-23 12:39:53 AM  
tomz17: I contend that it is virtually impossible for even the shiattiest of drivers to "lose control" of one of these cars at 120mph on a straight road! As long as you keep the steering wheel position sensor in one position, a pothole is not going to ruin your day (in fact, you probably won't even notice it)

You're either overheated or foolish. Either way, you're wrong. What you "could" do in a modern sportscar is no kind of guarantee, or anything like it.

Stability computer systems can certainly react a hell of a lot faster than the driver can, but you are grossly overestimating them and clearly do not understand the difference between track testing and real-world driving. The computer cannot control your Corvette when 75% of the car's mass is headed upward beyond the suspension limit at 120 MPH or faster. It can't because the car does not have wings. And Chevy does not stringently test Corvettes on public highways at 120 MPH or faster.

Frankly, I don't care if you understand or believe this, unless you drive that fast on public roads, in which case you're a danger to yourself and others. If you drive like that for long enough, odds are that your false confidence will catch up to you. Hopefully you won't hurt anyone else.
 
2010-12-23 12:40:43 AM  
Looking what a 0-200mph pass on a z06 looks like those last 30 would be pretty painful.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=35emxNffU-I&feature=related
 
2010-12-23 12:43:00 AM  
mstang1988: Most manufactures these days limit cars max speed based on vehicle stability.

Yeah, but that's still usually what they figure is the safe max under fairly ideal conditions. Their liability doesn't extend to the driver doing something moronic and illegal. They build a car that will do 160 MPH, they know that a significant percentage of people who buy it will want to race it at a track. They still don't want you driving it too fast and being inherently unsafe even at the track, even if you're skilled, and hence the governor.

It definitely doesn't mean they think it's safe to drive it at those speeds on a normal road. I think we probably agree on that; I just want to be clear about it.

Of course, the Autobahn, yadda yadda, that's the Autobahn, not I-80, etc.
 
2010-12-23 12:44:15 AM  
mstang1988: Looking what a 0-200mph pass on a z06 looks like those last 30 would be pretty painful.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=35emxNffU-I&feature=related


Look how long it takes to make that last 30, you'd go a mile or two miles easy in that time.
 
2010-12-23 12:45:17 AM  
big-x: Callous: 1000hp out of a C5 or C6 Vette isn't all that difficult with forced induction. It likely won't live long unless a professional shop built it but it's not all that hard.

/Owned a brand new '98 when I was 22
//Girls REALLY like shiny red Corvettes

usually compensating for shortcomings when you own a vette


Spoken like a Mustang owner.

/also former shiny red '98 owner
//160MPH
///top down
////compensating for too much income
 
2010-12-23 12:45:32 AM  
tomz17: RandomAxe:
. . .
Third, there's no way that car was safe at those speeds. I strongly doubt it was even sufficiently tuned to drive on a track at those speeds. Probably not even for going in a straight line at even 120 MPH, where an abrupt crosswind can ruin your day. But public roads are a long way from being a track surface.


What kind of pile do you drive!?

??? 120mph is absolutely nothing in a modern performance car, even on "scary public road surfaces". Take anything designed to tear up the autobahn out for a test drive one day. You can comfortably sit at 150mph all day long without even breaking a sweat.

RandomAxe:
No tire in the world, no disc brakes, no amount of driving skill will allow you to prevent or recover from that situation. At high speeds, the tiniest dip or bump in the road can cause one wheel to essentially lose all traction -- and that's when you suddenly go sideways or veer off the road.


Where are you getting this stuff? You do realize that formula 1 used to be run on regular public roads (completely shiatty european roads) without mass pandemonium? You've also obviously never seen the Nurburgring, there are some *ROUGH* patches of road! Or GOD FORBID, rally car races! Those tires randomly "lose traction" several times a minute, at race speeds often at well over 100mph. Those drivers must be farking wizards!

Now that we've established an existence proof for drivers regularly surviving your 120mph pothole death barrier, there's an additional safety net which should be mentioned. EVERY modern "performance" car has a dynamic stability program enabled by default. Every car with a track variant (think WRX, EVO, BMW3, AUDI RS4, 911, etc. etc.) has the appropriate dynamics model and dozens-hundreds of hours of testing for that chassis at race speeds (despite the fact that experienced drivers often choose to turn these assists off... the testing is still done!). I contend that it is virtually impossible for even the shiattiest of drivers to "lose control" of one of these cars at 120mph on a straight road! As long as you keep the steering wheel position sensor in one position, a pothole is not going to ruin your day (in fact, you probably won't even notice it)

Driving 120mph on public roads IS absurdly stupid... but provided you have the "proper equipment" (a corvette counts) the boogeymen you are advocating are not the ones that are going to come out and kill you.

RandomAxe:
State cops often drive over 100 MPH on the interstate. Their cars are tuned for it, and they're trained for it, and traffic gets out of their way. Ask a statie who's been on the job for 20 years or more if it ever gets a bit hinky just the same.

State cops around here drive crown vics and chargers. I've driven both with/without supposed police suspension upgrades. It was an absolutely terrifying experience either way. I honestly don't blame them for preferring to stay under 100mph!


Agree with what you said. He must be driving a pile and exactly about cops. A giant heavy square box sitting like a 4x4 and very soft suspension is not going to do 100+ well. A C5 Z06 or a C6 anything is going to do very very well, especially modified. He still shouldn't be doing that on public roads as reactions would be way to slow to avoid trouble.
 
2010-12-23 12:49:07 AM  
big-x: Callous: 1000hp out of a C5 or C6 Vette isn't all that difficult with forced induction. It likely won't live long unless a professional shop built it but it's not all that hard.

/Owned a brand new '98 when I was 22
//Girls REALLY like shiny red Corvettes

usually compensating for shortcomings when you own a vette


Usually just jealous that I have the hot car and hot girl to take home and fark when you say that.
 
2010-12-23 12:50:36 AM  
eqtworld: mstang1988: Looking what a 0-200mph pass on a z06 looks like those last 30 would be pretty painful.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=35emxNffU-I&feature=related

Look how long it takes to make that last 30, you'd go a mile or two miles easy in that time.


Yup, I think that's probably not much past stock though but yeah, I don't think he was going 190.
 
2010-12-23 12:51:05 AM  
Who the hell names his son Dee?
 
2010-12-23 12:52:53 AM  
James F. Campbell: Wait... I just figured out step 2.

1. Post a fake video of you breaking the law.
2. When they arrest you, sue the pants off of them.
3. Profit!


that actually sounds like a good plan.
 
2010-12-23 12:56:29 AM  
They need to prove the video is not a shop.

2 bucks that any good lawyer gets thi throwin out.
 
2010-12-23 12:59:34 AM  
syrynxx: big-x: Callous: 1000hp out of a C5 or C6 Vette isn't all that difficult with forced induction. It likely won't live long unless a professional shop built it but it's not all that hard.

/Owned a brand new '98 when I was 22
//Girls REALLY like shiny red Corvettes

usually compensating for shortcomings when you own a vette

Spoken like a Mustang owner.

/also former shiny red '98 owner
//160MPH
///top down
////compensating for too much income


I have a 2008 Z06. What am I compensating for again? ;-)

www.synthcom.com
 
2010-12-23 01:00:33 AM  
RandomAxe: mstang1988: Most manufactures these days limit cars max speed based on vehicle stability.

Yeah, but that's still usually what they figure is the safe max under fairly ideal conditions. Their liability doesn't extend to the driver doing something moronic and illegal. They build a car that will do 160 MPH, they know that a significant percentage of people who buy it will want to race it at a track. They still don't want you driving it too fast and being inherently unsafe even at the track, even if you're skilled, and hence the governor.

It definitely doesn't mean they think it's safe to drive it at those speeds on a normal road. I think we probably agree on that; I just want to be clear about it.

Of course, the Autobahn, yadda yadda, that's the Autobahn, not I-80, etc.


I will say my 2003 Cobra is more stable at higher speeds then my Civic or Titan are at 40. My 1988 GT was far more stable in the wind at 80ish (Legal Limit by El Paso) then my Civic is going 40. That's the first thing I noticed when I sold it to get the civic. Viper or GT-R will be next, hmmm. Which to get, which to get.

Again, I think we agree he was dumb doing what he was doing and to note, the Autobahn is NOT a normal road. The road there is maintained totally different and the driving reqs are totally different. The road is something like 30" min to avoid cracks and any crack is immediately repaired. They constantly have road crews scouring and clearing any debris and require slower cars to stay in the right lane like we are supposed to in the US. Hell, here is a link. http://www.gettingaroundgermany.info/autobahn.shtml#design
 
2010-12-23 01:01:05 AM  
My '98 went 140 on the highway pretty easily. It was exciting but not difficult to stay in my lane.

Got it to 170 more than once and that's a whole different experience. Terrifying and a 3 lane highway felt like I was trying to drive on one of the white lines.

/Car was not stock
 
2010-12-23 01:22:42 AM  
mstang1988:

I will say my 2003 Cobra is more stable at higher speeds then my Civic or Titan are at 40. My 1988 GT was far more stable in the wind at 80ish (Legal Limit by El Paso) then my Civic is going 40. That's the first thing I noticed when I sold it to get the civic. Viper or GT-R will be next, hmmm. Which to get, which to get.


I'd go with the GT-R simply because GT-R + snow tires = win (seriously google it). However if I lived somewhere with no snow, would definitely go with a corvette.
 
2010-12-23 01:22:43 AM  
phantomht: moar cool vette videos:
Link (new window)

Link (new window)


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LpGkYEr0TtE&feature=related (new window)
/sry, i dun haz linky skillz



Thanks for the laughs! (from the I own a Corvette so I think I know how to drive fast club)
 
2010-12-23 01:23:39 AM  
neilbradley: I have a 2008 Z06. What am I compensating for again? ;-)

A small peener.
 
2010-12-23 01:40:14 AM  
neilbradley:
I have a 2008 Z06. What am I compensating for again? ;-)

According to the guys on Top Gear you have a squishy rear end.....
(after watching them poke the rear fascia and it pushed in with one finger I have to agree, as an American that is embarrassing)
 
2010-12-23 01:48:56 AM  
blunttrauma:
Some poor schmuck tooling down the freeway is closing on a car in front of him at ~2MPH, checks his mirror sees a car a couple hundred yards back, and pulls out to pass. Really hard to tell speed from a rear view mirror. The ~90MPH rate of closure makes the gap shrink by about 44 yards per second.

How long does it take a car to stop from that speed?

With that in mind, have you ever watched a mixed class endurance race? 24 Hours of Le Mans, 24 Hours of Daytona, anything in the American Le Mans Series? They mix production based classes with prototype classes. There are accidents regularly between faster and slower classed cars, and they are professional drivers, on a racetrack, and most importantly expecting cars to be coming up behind them going significantly faster.

The class speed differences in those race series are nowhere near the differential that moron was going. And even then, pro drivers have accidents when they know faster cars are coming.


That -is- the biggest issue with going that fast on a public road. You might have enough skill to control your own vehicle, but you have no control over the actions of the people you are passing at a high rate of speed who may just pull out in front of you with no warning at all.

Some of the scariest racing I did this season was at Miller Motorsports when someone decided it would be a good idea to let the Vintage class run with the Formula class in the race. The pretext being, "They'll hold their line and give you room."

Last lap of the race I'm dicing it up with another F1 breathing on my ass and 1/2 a lap to go, we come flying out of the chicane and I'm ready to go into a 90 left kink that I normally drift through on the power at over 100 in 3rd easy. There is a vintage BMW rig up the track and he's running a way outside line, I'm ready to brake/flick/twist when he dives for the candy stripes on the inside. My asshole is trying to claw through my seat foam and I'm putting the F1 to it's 2G's under braking limit. Now I'm doing 45 through a corner on the inside practically in the dirt with a competitor scratching my ass. The driver on my ass got it on video. That's me in front...

It's crapping time... (new window)

You can actually see me look over and give him a, "DUDE, WTF?!"

If he had been any closer to me when Mr. Vintage pulled his move all three of us would have been heading off the track at a high rate of speed in a crumpled heap.
 
2010-12-23 01:55:41 AM  
The_Homeless_Guy: mstang1988:

I will say my 2003 Cobra is more stable at higher speeds then my Civic or Titan are at 40. My 1988 GT was far more stable in the wind at 80ish (Legal Limit by El Paso) then my Civic is going 40. That's the first thing I noticed when I sold it to get the civic. Viper or GT-R will be next, hmmm. Which to get, which to get.


I'd go with the GT-R simply because GT-R + snow tires = win (seriously google it). However if I lived somewhere with no snow, would definitely go with a corvette.


That's the only reason I am looking at the GT-R. I always have the Titan for snow though and it + snow tires = snow tire win. Corvettes are ok but they are for old people and retards like the guy in the video so it would be either a 96-99 GTS with hopefully a Roe or a 2003+ Vert.
 
2010-12-23 02:38:18 AM  
The scariest thing about doing high speeds on US interstates(and this is when absolutely no other cars are around) is that they are not maintained well enough to support those high speeds. You hit some crap at 75 and you're like "Meh". You hit that same little bump at 180, well, goodnight sweetheart.

Keep it at the track.

//I don't think he hit 190, but he was going fast. Supposed to set up the camera to get the speedo on the vid.
 
2010-12-23 02:45:06 AM  
moike: That -is- the biggest issue with going that fast on a public road. You might have enough skill to control your own vehicle, but you have no control over the actions of the people you are passing at a high rate of speed who may just pull out in front of you with no warning at all.

Hence the adrenalin. I'll be awake for days.
 
2010-12-23 03:15:56 AM  
EvilIguana966: Anyone else read that as 1000 hit points?

Yeah, I was thinking my 2-handed B-Sword of Sherikhan could do 50d10 damage, so I'd take it on just for the xp's.
 
2010-12-23 03:19:13 AM  
Should have done it on the Isle of Man.

No speed limits outside of urban areas.
 
2010-12-23 03:30:04 AM  
My V6 Accord can hit 90mph and you wouldn't be able to tell without looking at the speedometer. The video is a whole new level of scary.
 
2010-12-23 03:30:14 AM  
kalvyn: gojirast:

Why in Odin's name would anyone need or want to go to OR ever?

#1 No sales tax

#2 Their ocean beaches are FAR superiour to WA beaches


^^I've lived in Western WA almost my entire life (and I'm old) and I completely agree with this opinion.

#3 Run at PIR. :)

#4 Skiing at Mt. Bachelor

/that's about it, though!


Nope: OR is simply INFESTED with the finest craft ales in the world. There are something like 175 breweries in OR.

And NE OR is beautiful, also. It's actually a really cool state, unless you very much prefer an urban setting (NY/Chicago) or sunny beaches (FL/CA).
 
2010-12-23 03:48:04 AM  
URAPNIS: neilbradley: I have a 2008 Z06. What am I compensating for again? ;-)

A small peener.


I also have a Mazda with a 1.6 liter engine. Am I just a walking contradiction?
 
2010-12-23 04:39:18 AM  
Did a Buck 20 in a 95 ranger.... not safe or a good idea...
*had a slight hill and most likely the wind helping. plus you can learn how to fark with the governor/rev limiter with timing on the pedal.

/that was when i was a young and dumb. but it was actually pretty smooth...

//cant stress enough about tires... If your going to haul ass, Have a good pair of shoes.
 
2010-12-23 05:01:10 AM  
This is like those crack dealers they drag away and they'e all "How'd they know? Who'd they know?"

Well, lessee, Einstein.

You're 22, you live at your mama's, you're unemployed, you never go outside before 2:00 P.M. and you have a 7k dookie rope and an Escalade with 23" spinners.

Let's review.
 
2010-12-23 05:19:23 AM  
MeinRS6: The scariest thing about doing high speeds on US interstates(and this is when absolutely no other cars are around) is that they are not maintained well enough to support those high speeds. You hit some crap at 75 and you're like "Meh". You hit that same little bump at 180, well, goodnight sweetheart.

Keep it at the track.

//I don't think he hit 190, but he was going fast. Supposed to set up the camera to get the speedo on the vid.


True that. My dad hit a Jackstand that came off of a truck when he was doing about 80. (in houston you stay with traffic) He did not loose control. Now if he was doing 120 + it coulda been real bad.

The Jack stand almost made it inside the car...

I would not want a jack stand enema !

It fuxed the car all up... poor bmw.

/good news, it only peirced the fuel lines. ( no fire )
 
2010-12-23 06:05:33 AM  
Ummm.. a few hundred hp over 1k whp and you can run 200mph in a quarter mile with a 2500lb car. People do this every day.

If this car really is in the 1kwhp range, I don't see why 190 is out of the realm of possibility. I've been 150+ in plenty of cars, I've ridden in a supra that I've seen go in the 200mph range before on public highways. Granted, every mph gets exponentially higher when you're in triple digit speeds, but cars with less than that hp range go that fast. I recall a video on youtube of a stock lambo racing up and down the highway multiple times trying to , and eventually cracking the 200 mark. shiat, I've been in civics with 430ish whp that get to 150 in a farking hurry.


I can't see the video to be a judge, so I cant really say much. 200 IS a hard number.. but not impossible. remember, wheel hp is way different than crank horsepower.
 
2010-12-23 06:51:15 AM  
"I was extremely concerned with Mr. Replogle's reckless driving and thought the YouTube posts might encourage others to do the same thing in order to garner attention

Well, the video is deleted, but I certainly am inspired and inebriated by this video and will be sure to imitate it as soon as I finish my beer.
 
2010-12-23 06:56:54 AM  
Okay, farkers, cough it up - what's the fastest a cop has ever clocked you at?


105 here. His first words to me. "Have you ever been arrested?"

I'm sure a lot of you have gone faster and maybe even been arrested (or got away with it) after faster speeds.

I got a ticket that got lost in the system. Showed up for court, but my ticket didn't. Ha haw!
 
2010-12-23 07:12:06 AM  
Happy Hours: Okay, farkers, cough it up - what's the fastest a cop has ever clocked you at?


105 here. His first words to me. "Have you ever been arrested?"

I'm sure a lot of you have gone faster and maybe even been arrested (or got away with it) after faster speeds.
Happy Hours: Okay, farkers, cough it up - what's the fastest a cop has ever clocked you at?

105 here. His first words to me. "Have you ever been arrested?"

I'm sure a lot of you have gone faster and maybe even been arrested (or got away with it) after faster speeds.

I got a ticket that got lost in the system. Showed up for court, but my ticket didn't. Ha haw!

107.

All the way down I-71 for 130 miles, trying to get to my dad's funeral on time. Which I missed. 21 gun salute and all.

In a freaking Mercury Tracer. Which, apparently, doesn't go any faster than 107. Didn't get pulled over. Never wanted to or needed to pull sh*t like that again.
 
2010-12-23 08:10:34 AM  
chewielouie: eqtworld: Link (new window)

The end = awesome.


Maybe I've grown up, but I don't think an arrogant asshole weaving in and out of traffic is cool. I certainly don't think someone T-boning a cop car is cool.

Hope this guy gets a book tossed at him.
 
2010-12-23 08:29:21 AM  
Are the gonna arrest the cast of 2 fast 2 furious?
 
2010-12-23 08:29:30 AM  
I'm kinda disappointed to see he was going that fast. I was hoping to hear the 190/120 discrepancy was simple KPH/MPH.
 
2010-12-23 08:31:32 AM  
Looking at the news video, he gets up to around 150 mph ....difficult to tell, but it doesn't look like 190.

Damn silly thing to do on an occupied road.

The wife had my polishing car up to 150-155 on one of the empty local toll roads once, and while it was 100% stable it still made me rather nervous as she has no race experience. Fastest I've ever been on a public road, closed road stage rallies included; I prefer corners :-)
 
2010-12-23 08:53:36 AM  
Too bad nobody bought it...

Copy/pasta! http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Chevrolet-Corvette-FRC-1000-HP-Corvette-F1R-Super charger-_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQhashZitem3362ed3900QQitemZ220703045888QQptZUSQ5fCarsQ 5fTrucks
 
2010-12-23 08:57:48 AM  
RandomAxe: State cops often drive over 100 MPH on the interstate. Their cars are tuned for it, and they're trained for it, and traffic gets out of their way. Ask a statie who's been on the job for 20 years or more if it ever gets a bit hinky just the same.

Why don't you say "strange" or "weird"? I mean..."hinky"...that has no meaning...
 
2010-12-23 08:59:46 AM  
TsukasaK: RandomAxe: That's like saying if you shoot into a crowd but don't hit anyone, it's not a crime.

If it's not painfully obvious right now.. I agree with that statement. He didn't hurt himself, he didn't hurt anyone else directly or indirectly, so I find it hard to do anything but call him a colossal moron.

We don't need non-violent people who haven't injured another being clogging up the prison system. I agree with him getting a ticket (hell, he filmed himself breaking the speed limit), and a massive one at that, but jail time? No.


Probation with a huge fine and community service would be fine by me. If he wants to violate it and go to jail, that's up to him.

When it comes to colossally stupid, I've done 120 for 10 miles on a two-lane rural highway on the way back from a house party, with people still on the road. The one good part is that you're moving so fast, you can pass in a third of the usual time, so oncoming traffic stops mattering as much. Yeah, liquid courage turns speeders into raging morons, so I can't help but wonder if he had a little.

When I woke up the next day I pretty much vowed not to be such a dumbshiat in the future. I'd still do occasional 100+ on the freeway (until the burden of my tickets crushed my spirit), but never something like that again.
 
2010-12-23 09:14:25 AM  
anyone going faster than me is insane.
anyone going slower is an idiot.
 
2010-12-23 10:13:17 AM  
BroVinny: What is this? Two stupid Oklahomans in one day? We really need our own tag.

Would stupid and Oklahoman be redundant?
 
2010-12-23 10:52:46 AM  
Misc comments...

Here's clip I made a few years ago in my modified '80 vette.
Link (new window)
I've since done more upgrades to the car so I'm good for at least a buck-50. The car has been rebuilt and tuned to handle higher speeds. In 2011, I hope to do some more upgrades to put me in the 165-170 range. At that point, it's too costly to fight mother natures natural resistance that halt further acceleration.
I rarely do top-speed runs on the highways. Maybe twice a year.
Yes, I have professional race car experience and track time. My father was a SCCA driving instructor as well as racecar builder.

Years ago, "Car and Driver" did a review of the Ford Crown Vic Police Interceptor (I think was the designation). They said that with all the additional add-ons to the car such as the security cage and whatnot, it's handling was actually WORSE than the base Crown Vic.
That notwithstanding, police officers are typically given training on driving. Just as they are given gun training. And all the same, it's a skill you lose if you don't practice. The police are only marginally better at certain things than the general public and much worse at certain things when compared to people that practice certain things on a regular basis. I'm fairly confident I can outdrive a police officer on the track (and thus on the street) and am more accurate at the gun range with a given number of firearms because I practice more than they do.

Was the guy in the clip acting irresponsibly? Yes.
Has anyone who's posted in this thread not done something at some point in their life that, with enough supposition and hypothesizing, could have potentially caused bodily harm to themselves or others? I doubt it. We ALL have thrown stones.

Lastly, the group of people that always ask, "Why do you need a car that can go ___MPH when it's not even legal?"
Why do people do anything at all? Because we can. And maybe it provides or evokes a certain feeling that you don't understand for whatever reason. We all have our triggers. Why do people jump out of perfectly functioning airplanes? As a child, why did you try to get the swing on the playground to go higher and higher? Why did you jump off the swing, even if just once?
Questioning something you don't understand is OK.
Criticizing something you don't understand...not so much.
 
2010-12-23 11:26:23 AM  
Some years back, a car magazine did an article on cars that could do 180+ mph. About six made the list. They were what you would expect. Corvette, Porsche, etc. But among the elite was the Volvo 850 turbo station wagon. They tested the sedan, but it didn't cut the mustard. It had to be the station wagon. How messed up do you have to be to make a 180+ mph station wagon?
 
2010-12-23 11:33:31 AM  
I rented a Kia V-6 coupe last year while my car was in the shop and was coming off an exit in Iowa (long straight stretches of I-35 and I-80) and stepped on it to merge into truck traffic. Thought it was pretty fast and looked at the speedometer and was going 130mph plus and still had a lot of pedal left. Looked again to make sure it was not kph and slowed down real quick. I was surprised (it was a Kia) since most of the newer cars I've driven were chipped around 110-115mph. Did a GIS for that model and it was designed by Porsche. Excellent pocket rocket if you like to drive fast but definitely not safe for the average driver.
 
2010-12-23 11:52:04 AM  
Sorry, this will never stand up in court. The police are full of it--as always. Even if it's not faked, it wasn't witnessed, clocked or otherwise recorded by the constabulary--all he has to do is say the video was a crock. Can't be proved one way or the other. The end. I was so tired of speeders on my street that I took up webcam surveillance, but the police weren't interested (esp since some of the speeders were driving police cars) because they didn't take the video and couldn't determine if the video had been speeded up. Because I took it and the conditions couldn't be determined, it was useless as evidence in court.
 
2010-12-23 11:54:00 AM  
RandomAxe: State cops often drive over 100 MPH on the interstate. Their cars are tuned for it, and they're trained for it, and traffic gets out of their way. Ask a statie who's been on the job for 20 years or more if it ever gets a bit hinky just the same.

Yes traffic getting out of their way is a big part of it but those cars are less tuned then the avg awd car, it's just the ford (or whatever make) LE package; you can get the same thing. You are talking out your ass. 100 is totally safe in most modern cars if you are not retarded. Heck avg highway speed in plenty of places is 85+. Yes on a shiatty road with traffic 100 it is stupid, but your argument that some person with a crown vic and a badge is somehow a better driver than all of us is bunk.

/seen plenty of state cops in ditches
 
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