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(Houston Press)   The nation's BBQ capital according to Google, and it's not where you think it is   (blogs.houstonpress.com ) divider line
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2010-12-21 02:33:45 AM  

dogbone: As far as I'm concerned, Arthur Bryant invented fire. Everybody else can stand the fark down.


This...

dccc:
First, the NC vinegar stuff shouldn't even be allowed to be called barbecue, barbeque, BBQ or anything close. Using words like "compliment" and "vinegar" in the same sentence should only be used when referencing personal hygene products.

Second, if you describe KC sauce as "sweet" then you haven't been to KC. KC Masterpiece is the most non-typical KC sauce invented. That was created and sold to Kraft to distribute to parts of the country that think Taco Bell is "spicy" and "authentic." Gates was made for tourists. Arthur Bryant's, Jack Stack, Hillsdale Bank, Rosedale, Wyandotte (1 and 2), can't forget Oklahome Joe's, and about 300 other restaurants are the real KC representations.

Lastly, folks can comment all the want about their local "World Championship" contest. I mean, Memphis, in May, c'mon? Holding the World championship at the beginning of the competitive season? Any serious contender knows where the real, ultimate in prestige competition, true World Series of BBQ competitions is held. Yep, KC, American Royale in October.

Kansas City is the clear winner.


And THIS.

I didn't even know Texas even took bbq seriously. I figured they were just a great big exporters of teh crazy and tea baggers (but then I repeat myself).

I tried Carolina bbq once, it made me want to yakk.

Jack Stack FTW!
 
2010-12-21 02:46:16 AM  
In Texas, when you want BBQ, you don't have to use Google to find it.

Also, the best BBQ doesn't come from large chains with websites.
 
2010-12-21 03:13:58 AM  

operatorJzigworthy: They spelled it "barbecue," not "barbeque," throwing off the results. Texas rockets to #4 for the variant spelling.



And they jump to #1 if you include searches for "BBQ", "Bar-b-que", and "I married my cousin".
 
2010-12-21 03:36:04 AM  
A food/drink thread turned pissing match? On MY Fark?
 
2010-12-21 05:26:12 AM  

Ba pak: Starne's Barbecue, Paducah, KY.

...Corky's, Memphis is a close second

/my 2 cents


You like Starnes? Meh. I'll take Moonlite any day.
 
2010-12-21 07:35:16 AM  

UNC_Samurai: Google is absolutely correct. Eastern North Carolina is the BBQ capital of the world:


Bill Ellis BBQ (new window)

Parker's (new window)

B's (new window)
Cherry's (new window)

King's (new window)


Came for this. Leaving unsatisfied now that Im craving some NC BBQ...
 
2010-12-21 07:44:48 AM  
Damn, a 'cue fight and I end up coming in at the end. Oh well. At least I can set a few things straight. If you really want to start an argument south of the Mason Dixon line, just start talking about where the best barbecue is. (There is no barbecue north of the M-D line. If you're up here and that statement bothers you, get over it. The truth hurts sometimes.) In 2008, my son and I took a cross-country trip to find the best barbecue. We ate vinegar based pork in NC, mustard-based pork in SC, Brunswick Stew and pulled pork in Atlanta, ribs at Rendezvous in Memphis (Made it onto Man vs Food there), the sampler plate at Interstate in Memphis, creole style pork in New Orleans, brisket in Dallas and (at the recommendation of a Farker) Harold's in Abeline, sweet-sauced Arthur Bryant's in KC and half a dozen other cities over a 2-week, 5000+ mile run.

If you think that your 'cue is the best, take a trip and try it in other places. The first thing you'll learn is that you've been missing some really good 'cue, and the second is that there are other cuts of meat that are just as good if you get that prejudiced pole out of your butt.

Best 'cue: Lexington BBQ, Lexington, NC (Not the stuff they serve on the plate, that was very good (order the "brown") but we asked to see the pit and the pitmaster pulled a shoulder out of the smoker and cut a hunk off and handed it to us right on the knife. Best ever.)
Best Ribs: Rendezvous, Memphis, TN
Best Sweet Tea: Rendezvous, Memphis, TN
Best Brisket: Harold's, Abilene, TX
Best Sandwich: Arthur Bryant's KC, MO
Best Banana Pudding: The Pit, Raleigh, NC
Best Fried Dough: Cafe' Du Monde, NOLA
Best Fried anything: The Triple D Burger at Joe's Gizzard City in Potterville MI. As seen on Diners, Drive Ins, and Dives, an entire cheeseburger on the bun, batter-dipped and deep-fried. Very nearly made me forget all the good 'cue... Almost.
 
2010-12-21 08:01:47 AM  

LeglessDog: @USCLaw2010

Ketchup . . . . that's just blasphemous.


Oh I know, I'm a vinegar based man myself.
 
2010-12-21 08:03:49 AM  
While pulled pork is VERY tasty, it is NOT BBQ!!!
 
2010-12-21 08:55:55 AM  

SFSailor: TsuDohNim: A Texan doesn't have to Google barbecue the intellectual ability to use a computer.

Kidding, but, man, you put that up there on a tee.

Crap, now I could go for Texas bbq, NC bbq, any decent bbq... mmm bbq. Any Farkers have a solid recommendation for Balto/DC/NoVA?


Harborque in Locust Point, Baltimore is awesome for Carolina-style BBQ. I went to school in Greenville, NC for 5 years so I know good BBQ. Its no B's, but its good.
Also in MD, there is a place called Bayside Bull. It is a little outside of Annapolis and has amazing bbq.
 
2010-12-21 08:58:03 AM  

SFSailor: TsuDohNim: A Texan doesn't have to Google barbecue the intellectual ability to use a computer.

Kidding, but, man, you put that up there on a tee.

Crap, now I could go for Texas bbq, NC bbq, any decent bbq... mmm bbq. Any Farkers have a solid recommendation for Balto/DC/NoVA?


Andy Nelson's on York rd. in Cockysville. Kloby's Smokehouse just south of Columbia off of 29 at Johns Hopkins rd. Also good for ribs is
Big Bad Wolf. Try the local Baltimore BBQ variant called Pit Beef, most famously at Chaps (new window), although I prefer the beef at Charcoal Grill.
 
2010-12-21 09:37:19 AM  

Maud Dib: runslothrun: Maud Dib: runslothrun: memphis bbq ftw. all others are imposters. especially the dry-rub nastiness that they dug up in the carolinas.

i'd go as far to say that only texas bbq rivals carolina bbq in it' foulness.

so, tl;dr, they don't make bbq in north carolina. see memphis; the true bbq capital of the world.


Texas BBQ ..the rest is just second best.

that's just the IBBQTG in you talking. if you were sitting across the table from me at the cozy corner in memphis you'd be too busy eating your third plate to speak such nonsense.

Our chili is better as well....NO GOL-DURN BEANS.


\:D


Have you ever tried that abomination they call chili in Cincinnati? That bland babyshiat ketchup stew that they pour over noodles? Vile!
 
2010-12-21 10:02:52 AM  
So I got off work last night and headed directly to Oklahoma Joes.

Curse you, Fark. I am not your dancing monkey.
 
2010-12-21 10:08:31 AM  
exactly where I thought it was.

/from NC
//west side 4 life
 
2010-12-21 10:16:39 AM  

RatOmeter: Have you ever tried that abomination they call chili in Cincinnati? That bland babyshiat ketchup stew that they pour over noodles? Vile!


SKYLINE? :)

Also, despite being a NC BBQ fan....I think Tejas brisket is the bomb.
 
2010-12-21 10:23:52 AM  

mbillips: This is completely unsurprising. Barbecue is made of pork. The cow-based stuff they eat in Texas is tasty, but it's not barbecue. Also, there's no letter 'q' in the word barbecue.

I actually kind of prefer western North Carolina barbecue, but I'll take whatever you're serving. And I prefer pulled pork to sliced. In order, I'd go for western NC, Memphis, eastern NC. Just a matter of taste.

/Live in Georgia, where the style depends on the restaurant; we don't really have one of our own.
//Too lazy to check to see if The Barbecue Song (pops) has already been posted.



That song is now my most favoritest thing in the whole world.
 
2010-12-21 10:29:17 AM  
This is what I was afraid of with this thread...now I want some BBQ...
/Phoenix sucks at finding it...
//Yes, I know Dave's, but I don't feel the authenticity I used to get back East...
 
2010-12-21 10:30:10 AM  

BillSmith70: While pulled pork is VERY tasty, it is NOT BBQ!!!


www.knvegeta.net
 
2010-12-21 10:57:57 AM  

joelris: Thats exactly where I thought it was.


THIS.
 
2010-12-21 11:23:51 AM  
I lived in NC for 10 years. The "pig-pickin'" is pretty good but NC BBQ sauce is thin, watery, and vinegar with hot pepper seeds. THAT is NOT BBQ. Don't get me wrong, it's tasty, but NOT BBQ.

SC/GA BBQ sauce with mustard is an abomanation.

Best BBQ on the planet is Hillery's BBQ in Waukegan/North Chicago, IL. They won't give any hints on the sauce but I know it is vinegar with SOME tomato paste and tea. They use cayenne for heat and that's awesome.

Corky's, while they have some places in Memphis is based in Little Rock, AR. Some of the best places are little holes-in-the wall along the highways in Tennessee, Mississippi, and Alabama and most use the term "Pit BBQ"..NOT chain places.

Just like Hillery's, the meat is SLOW cooked in a smoker with charcoal heat. Usually the heat is just about 180F and no hotter. The meat is "almost" fall off the bone tender and smoked through. In line, you'd (on any given day) see Chicago Bulls and Chicago Bears players waiting just like you.

Except for Hillery's in Illinois, folks who have never been South of the Ohio River have no clue what GREAT BBQ is and it sure as Hell isn't in NC, SC, or GA.

I know for sure the best BBQ sauce for eateries is actually placed in seperate large pans inside the smokers to "smoke" along with the meat.

Kansas City has some good BBQ. Texas BBQ is far too "cowboy" to be original but it is pretty good, and mainly beef. West Tennessee, North Mississippi, and Arkansas wins hands down. Pork ribs, rib tips, rule the roost.

Most people forget that BBQ was invented by slaves in America who got ribs, rib tips and other "useless" cuts of pork from slave owners who didn't want it. Slaves devised "pit" BBQ slow roasting as well as their own sauces that we know today...passed down through generations. Today, people of all colors and backgrounds stand in line for over a half hour at Hillery's just for a rib or rib tip dinner with crinkle cut fries, home made cole slaw and two pieces of white bread to sop up the sauce with.

THAT...IS heaven.
 
2010-12-21 11:42:48 AM  

JNowe: So I got off work last night and headed directly to Oklahoma Joes.


Started here in Stillwater, OK, here no longer. At least we still have Bad Brad's and Cherokee Strip houses of fine BBQ.

/also home to the first Sonic drive-in. What a town.
//"Let's camp here, there's still water!"
 
2010-12-21 11:51:10 AM  

RatOmeter: JNowe: So I got off work last night and headed directly to Oklahoma Joes.


Started here in Stillwater, OK, here no longer. At least we still have Bad Brad's and Cherokee Strip houses of fine BBQ.

/also home to the first Sonic drive-in. What a town.
//"Let's camp here, there's still water!"


Didn't know they were from Stillwater. They're going strong here, that's for sure. You wouldn't think there would be a line out the door on a random Monday evening, but there was.
 
2010-12-21 11:55:06 AM  
I prefer "Jones' Good-Ass BBQ and Foot Massage" personally.
 
2010-12-21 02:02:38 PM  

rockradio1: I lived in NC for 10 years. The "pig-pickin'" is pretty good but NC BBQ sauce is thin, watery, and vinegar with hot pepper seeds. THAT is NOT BBQ. Don't get me wrong, it's tasty, but NOT BBQ.

SC/GA BBQ sauce with mustard is an abomanation.

Best BBQ on the planet is Hillery's BBQ in Waukegan/North Chicago, IL. They won't give any hints on the sauce but I know it is vinegar with SOME tomato paste and tea. They use cayenne for heat and that's awesome.

Corky's, while they have some places in Memphis is based in Little Rock, AR. Some of the best places are little holes-in-the wall along the highways in Tennessee, Mississippi, and Alabama and most use the term "Pit BBQ"..NOT chain places.

Just like Hillery's, the meat is SLOW cooked in a smoker with charcoal heat. Usually the heat is just about 180F and no hotter. The meat is "almost" fall off the bone tender and smoked through. In line, you'd (on any given day) see Chicago Bulls and Chicago Bears players waiting just like you.

Except for Hillery's in Illinois, folks who have never been South of the Ohio River have no clue what GREAT BBQ is and it sure as Hell isn't in NC, SC, or GA.

I know for sure the best BBQ sauce for eateries is actually placed in seperate large pans inside the smokers to "smoke" along with the meat.

Kansas City has some good BBQ. Texas BBQ is far too "cowboy" to be original but it is pretty good, and mainly beef. West Tennessee, North Mississippi, and Arkansas wins hands down. Pork ribs, rib tips, rule the roost.

Most people forget that BBQ was invented by slaves in America who got ribs, rib tips and other "useless" cuts of pork from slave owners who didn't want it. Slaves devised "pit" BBQ slow roasting as well as their own sauces that we know today...passed down through generations. Today, people of all colors and backgrounds stand in line for over a half hour at Hillery's just for a rib or rib tip dinner with crinkle cut fries, home made cole slaw and two pieces of white bread to sop up the sauce with.

THAT...IS heaven.


BBQ has nothing to do with the sauce. if you are judging your cue by the stuff you drench it with, well, you dont know cue
 
2010-12-21 02:06:21 PM  
Your mom's underwear is the BBQ capital of the world.
 
2010-12-21 03:51:27 PM  

Fano: Memphis bbq rules.

One caveat: Renedvous is overrated and for tourists.

/Memphis also has some great fried chicken


Both Rendezvous and Corky's are tourist que.

As I wrote above, my favorites, in order are:
1. The Bar-B-Q Shop
2. Cozy Corner
3. tie between Tops and Central, but only because i don't want to fight about 3rd Place. The Bar-B-Q Shop is hands down the best pork sandwich I've ever had.

Gus' is the best fried chicken I've ever tasted
 
2010-12-21 03:58:09 PM  

cmraman: Damn, a 'cue fight and I end up coming in at the end. Oh well. At least I can set a few things straight. If you really want to start an argument south of the Mason Dixon line, just start talking about where the best barbecue is. (There is no barbecue north of the M-D line. If you're up here and that statement bothers you, get over it. The truth hurts sometimes.) In 2008, my son and I took a cross-country trip to find the best barbecue. We ate vinegar based pork in NC, mustard-based pork in SC, Brunswick Stew and pulled pork in Atlanta, ribs at Rendezvous in Memphis (Made it onto Man vs Food there), the sampler plate at Interstate in Memphis, creole style pork in New Orleans, brisket in Dallas and (at the recommendation of a Farker) Harold's in Abeline, sweet-sauced Arthur Bryant's in KC and half a dozen other cities over a 2-week, 5000+ mile run.

If you think that your 'cue is the best, take a trip and try it in other places. The first thing you'll learn is that you've been missing some really good 'cue, and the second is that there are other cuts of meat that are just as good if you get that prejudiced pole out of your butt.

Best 'cue: Lexington BBQ, Lexington, NC (Not the stuff they serve on the plate, that was very good (order the "brown") but we asked to see the pit and the pitmaster pulled a shoulder out of the smoker and cut a hunk off and handed it to us right on the knife. Best ever.)
Best Ribs: Rendezvous, Memphis, TN
Best Sweet Tea: Rendezvous, Memphis, TN
Best Brisket: Harold's, Abilene, TX
Best Sandwich: Arthur Bryant's KC, MO
Best Banana Pudding: The Pit, Raleigh, NC
Best Fried Dough: Cafe' Du Monde, NOLA
Best Fried anything: The Triple D Burger at Joe's Gizzard City in Potterville MI. As seen on Diners, Drive Ins, and Dives, an entire cheeseburger on the bun, batter-dipped and deep-fried. Very nearly made me forget all the good 'cue... Almost.


Yeah, the problem is that you went to Rendezvous and Interstate. Interstate used to be good, back in the late 80's, but The Bar-B-Q Shop and Cozy Corner beat it hands down.

/The Bar-B-Q Shop is the only place to have won "Best Sandwich" in the three main Memphis publications.
 
2010-12-21 04:32:33 PM  
You are all wrong.

It is -BQ. It was a fire brand on cattle ranch, with healthy influence from Mexico. Hence, beef.

The rest is "grilling", or "smoking".


/pet peeve.
//Yes, I'm a Texan. If I want pork ribs, I go Kansas City style. Brisket? I get my BIL to cook it.
 
2010-12-21 05:11:52 PM  

AngryWhiteMale: You are all wrong.

It is -BQ. It was a fire brand on cattle ranch, with healthy influence from Mexico. Hence, beef.


Wow, that's not even close.
 
kth
2010-12-21 08:10:02 PM  

JNowe: So I got off work last night and headed directly to Oklahoma Joes.

Curse you, Fark. I am not your dancing monkey.


I brought home RJ's. Bless you fark.
 
2010-12-21 08:51:19 PM  

timujin: Fano: Memphis bbq rules.

One caveat: Renedvous is overrated and for tourists.

/Memphis also has some great fried chicken

Both Rendezvous and Corky's are tourist que.

As I wrote above, my favorites, in order are:
1. The Bar-B-Q Shop
2. Cozy Corner
3. tie between Tops and Central, but only because i don't want to fight about 3rd Place. The Bar-B-Q Shop is hands down the best pork sandwich I've ever had.

Gus' is the best fried chicken I've ever tasted


I missed out on Cozy Corner when I was there. I liked Central real well, I would probably have put them over Tops, OTOH, Tops is great fast food bbq. "Hep yoooo?"

Gus' is totally awesome.
 
2010-12-21 11:06:57 PM  
Burns's BBQ in Houston Tx.........nuff said
 
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