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(Houston Press)   The nation's BBQ capital according to Google, and it's not where you think it is   (blogs.houstonpress.com ) divider line 382
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2010-12-20 06:11:31 PM  

Treygreen13: calm like a bomb: Retodd: I prefer no sauce at all. BBQ is a about the meat. Making it about the sauce would be like ordering a burger because you heard the lettuce was good.

I think it depends on what the cook is going for. A good sauce (or rub) enhances the flavor of the meat rather than covering it. If you smoke it heavily, then sometimes it doesn't need anything else.

Man, I like it all the different ways if the cook knows what they're doing. Texas, Memphis, KC, NC, doesn't matter. They're all great if done well.

/they're also all BBQ
//even Korean BBQ


It's almost as if meat geneally tastes good, or something.
 
2010-12-20 06:12:09 PM  

Treygreen13:
We'll have to agree to disagree. I'll eat my BBQ as beef sans-sauce and you can eat yours however you like it.


BBQ with no sauce at all is not BBQ. It is either grilled meat or smoked meat. There's a difference.
 
2010-12-20 06:12:17 PM  

Treygreen13: /they're also all BBQ
//even Korean BBQ


We got a Korean Taco truck around here about a year ago. That's some hella good eats.
 
2010-12-20 06:12:18 PM  
The secret to good eastern NC BBQ is that the 'sauce' is really just a minor accent to the real flavor of the pork fat. Kinda like a pinch of salt sprinkled on your watermelon. Some places forget that because they have really shiatty meat and want to cover it up.
 
2010-12-20 06:13:13 PM  

Nocens: Why I like the MS/AL area. Awesome BBQ and awesome seafood.

I'll die of a coronary, but I'll have done it with the best.


I've never been there. That sounds pretty good, though. I'm a huge fan of seafood, but since I'm in the DFW area, I tend to avoid it here. I've had the fresh stuff in Oregon & Washington State and I must say, that ruined me for inland seafood forever.
 
2010-12-20 06:13:16 PM  

bump: good bbq lets the wood/smoke do all the work


topropehosting.com

You said "wood".
 
2010-12-20 06:13:27 PM  
Yes it was.
 
2010-12-20 06:13:44 PM  
Come to Houston's Reliant stadium Feb. 24-26 for the BBQ cookoff and decide for yourself about Texas' BBQ proficiency.


www.hlsr.com
 
2010-12-20 06:13:46 PM  

Treygreen13: BBQ is SRS BSNS


pretty sure that in memphis any murder committed in the defense of memphis bbq gets a free pass. but maybe that's only during their legendary, world reknowned, bbq fest that draws competitors globally?

/makes you wonder where all that meat comes from? dumb texans maybe? hell - them good eats!
 
2010-12-20 06:13:49 PM  
Grew up in Georgia and the Carolinas, and NC has the best, hands down. No comparison. Next question.
 
2010-12-20 06:14:41 PM  

Coach_J: cptjeff: Retodd: North Carolina? Pfffft. Y'all are too fond of your sauce. The sauce is good, but as any Texans knows, you use sauce when the meat isn't good enough to stand on its own.

Perhaps you should try using a sauce that enhances the flavors of the meat rather than drowning them in tomato. May I recommend a mixture of apple cider vinegar, a little brown sugar (but don't go KC or memphis and make it into syrup), pepper, onion, garlic, perhaps some mustard seed...

Sauce is good if your sauce isn't crap that smothers everything else.

Vinegar + Mustard Seed? Yea, there's some subtle flavor for your BBQ.

As I said...BBQ for people who don't like the taste of the meat.


A little mustard seed (and that's hardly universally accepted in NC style) not the same as drowning it in french's. It's just like adding spices to any other dish. YOu don't have to use a whole lot.

The brown sugar takes the edge off the vinegar, and the pepper adds a spicy note, and you get a tangy sauce that plays up the sweetness and richness of the pork.

If you think carolina style= a mixture of mustard and KC masterpiece, you should go kill yourself now. Additionally, All south Carolinians should go kill themselves now for leading people to think that.
 
2010-12-20 06:14:44 PM  

fritopendejo: Lockhart, TX is the world's BBQ capital. Scientific fact. That is all.


Came to say this. Kreuz Market in Lockhart.
 
2010-12-20 06:14:49 PM  

IStateTheObvious: Treygreen13:
We'll have to agree to disagree. I'll eat my BBQ as beef sans-sauce and you can eat yours however you like it.

BBQ with no sauce at all is not BBQ. It is either grilled meat or smoked meat. There's a difference.


Good luck convincing the legions of "no sauce no rub" and "dry rub only" BBQ fans that what they're eating isn't BBQ because it's not covered in liquid.
 
2010-12-20 06:15:31 PM  

BalugaJoe: fritopendejo: Lockhart, TX is the world's BBQ capital. Scientific fact. That is all.

Came to say this. Kreuz Market in Lockhart.


Kreuz is good, but my favorite Lockhart BBQ is Smithy's.
 
2010-12-20 06:16:46 PM  

cptjeff: If you think carolina style= a mixture of mustard and KC masterpiece, you should go kill yourself now. Additionally, All south Carolinians should go kill themselves now for leading people to think that.


They should probably just kill themselves for being South Carolinians. But hey, if it wasn't for SC, NC would have a really shiatty southern bit that everyone avoided.
 
2010-12-20 06:16:53 PM  

Di Atribe: runslothrun: Di Atribe: runslothrun: Di Atribe: Krayon: Come to Memphis and have Central's BBQ nachos, then shut the fark up about any of your Texas shiat.

I think it's possible to like more than one type of BBQ without trying to insult an entire state over it.

you'd think that but you'd be wrong :)

I'm not. What kind of food you prefer is subjective and you know it.

dude - if you can't tell that people here are joking around you need to turn off your computer and go get some air.

"STFU about your Texas shiat" isn't a very funny joke, to be honest. If you were trying to be funny, then maybe you need to turn off your computer and go get some air.


all texans should burn in their hell-powered BEEF bbq monstrosities. better?

what if i changed it to just YOU burning in one?

would you suddenly turn into a jew from texas?

in that case, let me get my rub.
 
2010-12-20 06:17:03 PM  

Treygreen13: IStateTheObvious: Treygreen13:
We'll have to agree to disagree. I'll eat my BBQ as beef sans-sauce and you can eat yours however you like it.

BBQ with no sauce at all is not BBQ. It is either grilled meat or smoked meat. There's a difference.

Good luck convincing the legions of "no sauce no rub" and "dry rub only" BBQ fans that what they're eating isn't BBQ because it's not covered in liquid.


Yea I know...wouldn't try. But I put a nice rub on my steak...that doesn't make my steak BBQ. It's still a steak. Common sense to me...
 
2010-12-20 06:21:52 PM  

Di Atribe: That sounds pretty good, though. I'm a huge fan of seafood, but since I'm in the DFW area, I tend to avoid it here.


When you have Bagheri's italian food, you don't need seafood.

Unless TC's Catfish opens back up...that place was farking AWESOME.
 
2010-12-20 06:21:59 PM  
The nation's BBQ capital according to Google, and it's not where you think it is

Isnt it the Hasidic district in Manhattan?

sure could go for some cracklin' lox and black eye bagels
oi!
 
2010-12-20 06:22:10 PM  

halfof33: I travel, and being from Chicago, don't have a bone in this fight, so:

1. Kansas City
2. Memphis
3. Carolinas
last: Texas. if you can't cook pork, ya can't BBQ.


I'd've put Memphis over K.C., but yeah: this.
 
2010-12-20 06:22:30 PM  

runslothrun: Di Atribe: runslothrun: Di Atribe: runslothrun: Di Atribe: Krayon: Come to Memphis and have Central's BBQ nachos, then shut the fark up about any of your Texas shiat.

I think it's possible to like more than one type of BBQ without trying to insult an entire state over it.

you'd think that but you'd be wrong :)

I'm not. What kind of food you prefer is subjective and you know it.

dude - if you can't tell that people here are joking around you need to turn off your computer and go get some air.

"STFU about your Texas shiat" isn't a very funny joke, to be honest. If you were trying to be funny, then maybe you need to turn off your computer and go get some air.

all texans should burn in their hell-powered BEEF bbq monstrosities. better?

what if i changed it to just YOU burning in one?

would you suddenly turn into a jew from texas?

in that case, let me get my rub.


www.lataco.com
This troll goes to 11!

IStateTheObvious: Treygreen13: IStateTheObvious: Treygreen13:
We'll have to agree to disagree. I'll eat my BBQ as beef sans-sauce and you can eat yours however you like it.

BBQ with no sauce at all is not BBQ. It is either grilled meat or smoked meat. There's a difference.

Good luck convincing the legions of "no sauce no rub" and "dry rub only" BBQ fans that what they're eating isn't BBQ because it's not covered in liquid.

Yea I know...wouldn't try. But I put a nice rub on my steak...that doesn't make my steak BBQ. It's still a steak. Common sense to me...


Just a matter of opinion. I believe something is BBQ based on the method by which it is heated, not necessarily by when/what/why sauce/rub is added.
 
2010-12-20 06:23:25 PM  

Di Atribe: runslothrun: Di Atribe: runslothrun: Di Atribe: Krayon: Come to Memphis and have Central's BBQ nachos, then shut the fark up about any of your Texas shiat.

I think it's possible to like more than one type of BBQ without trying to insult an entire state over it.

you'd think that but you'd be wrong :)

I'm not. What kind of food you prefer is subjective and you know it.

dude - if you can't tell that people here are joking around you need to turn off your computer and go get some air.

"STFU about your Texas shiat" isn't a very funny joke, to be honest. If you were trying to be funny, then maybe you need to turn off your computer and go get some air.


dude - what's even worse is that i didn't even make that comment you dumbass. way to poop in the pool, charlie brown.
 
2010-12-20 06:25:10 PM  

runslothrun: Di Atribe: runslothrun: Di Atribe: runslothrun: Di Atribe: Krayon: Come to Memphis and have Central's BBQ nachos, then shut the fark up about any of your Texas shiat.

I think it's possible to like more than one type of BBQ without trying to insult an entire state over it.

you'd think that but you'd be wrong :)

I'm not. What kind of food you prefer is subjective and you know it.

dude - if you can't tell that people here are joking around you need to turn off your computer and go get some air.

"STFU about your Texas shiat" isn't a very funny joke, to be honest. If you were trying to be funny, then maybe you need to turn off your computer and go get some air.

dude - what's even worse is that i didn't even make that comment you dumbass. way to poop in the pool, charlie brown.


(just FYI Di Atribe is a woman)
 
2010-12-20 06:26:16 PM  

Retodd: BalugaJoe: fritopendejo: Lockhart, TX is the world's BBQ capital. Scientific fact. That is all.

Came to say this. Kreuz Market in Lockhart.

Kreuz is good, but my favorite Lockhart BBQ is Smithy's.


Black's is epic too.
 
2010-12-20 06:26:59 PM  
Starne's Barbecue, Paducah, KY.

...Corky's, Memphis is a close second

/my 2 cents
 
2010-12-20 06:27:16 PM  

Retodd: BalugaJoe: fritopendejo: Lockhart, TX is the world's BBQ capital. Scientific fact. That is all.

Came to say this. Kreuz Market in Lockhart.

Kreuz is good, but my favorite Lockhart BBQ is Smithy's.


Not trying to be an ass, but it's Smitty's.

I'd also add Gonzales Food Market to list of best BBQ in that area of Texas.

If you're looking for a place in Austin, County Line is the only decent place, but way too expensive for what you get.
 
2010-12-20 06:28:16 PM  
I just made a big ol' pot of chili expressly for the purpose of frito pie. Frito pie chili has its own requirements that may not be fulfilled by just any chili.

Frito Pie + Dr. Pepper = a match made in texan
 
2010-12-20 06:28:32 PM  

LeglessDog: Exactly where I thought it was . . . NC BBQ FTW.

Texas specializes in beef brisket--which is delicious, but not as tasty as pork.

The red sauces of Memphis and KC (and western NC) are great, but IMO overpower the delicate nuances in the smoked pork's flavor.

SC mustard sauce is great for something different--but once again, a bit overpowering.

The natural compliment of vinegar and pepper flakes is all you need to make a piece of smoked pork something worth dying for.


//If I had to request a final meal, it would be pulled pork in vinegar sauce, slaw, tater salad, and some hushpuppies.


South Carolina doesn't just have mustard based BBQ.

cartophilia.com
 
2010-12-20 06:29:20 PM  

Treygreen13: runslothrun: Di Atribe: runslothrun: Di Atribe: runslothrun: Di Atribe: Krayon: Come to Memphis and have Central's BBQ nachos, then shut the fark up about any of your Texas shiat.

I think it's possible to like more than one type of BBQ without trying to insult an entire state over it.

you'd think that but you'd be wrong :)

I'm not. What kind of food you prefer is subjective and you know it.

dude - if you can't tell that people here are joking around you need to turn off your computer and go get some air.

"STFU about your Texas shiat" isn't a very funny joke, to be honest. If you were trying to be funny, then maybe you need to turn off your computer and go get some air.

dude - what's even worse is that i didn't even make that comment you dumbass. way to poop in the pool, charlie brown.

(just FYI Di Atribe is a woman)


are you trying to white knight someone in a bbq thread?
 
2010-12-20 06:29:30 PM  

cptjeff: You live in Texass. Just becuase you've never had good Barbecue with a sauce that makes things taste better doesn't mean that it doesn't exist.


Ooh, BBQ thread. I currently live in Texas. Prior to that, I lived in Kansas, South Carolina, Georgia, Tennessee, and Kentucky. In other words, I have eaten your regional style of BBQ. I've had the chains, I've had the hole-in-the-wall, I've had "two guys with a smoker in a parking lot". Been there, ate it. And, for the most part, liked it.

But it's really tough to compare the variants. I mean, how does brisket that's been over fire for 24 hours measure up to pork ribs? Different flavors, different textures.

I slightly prefer Texas 'que over the others, and that's mainly because of the (lack of) seasonings. NC (both east and west), KC, and Memphis can get away with a little more, because the seasonings are more the star of the show. Speaking of NC, you can start fights in that state over vinegar-based vs. tomato-based. It's almost funny.

If you ever get the chance, there's a white BBQ they do in Alabama that's worth checking out. Mayonnaise- based, but it works. It's really, really good.

And, finally, I'm glad there aren't a lot of people in this thread claiming that KC BBQ is superior. If I want to taste KC Masterpiece, I'll buy it and drink straight from the bottle.
 
2010-12-20 06:30:28 PM  
Am I ever glad I put on my hipwaders before looking in to this thread. The wankery is positively overflowing.
 
2010-12-20 06:31:07 PM  
I'm sure I'm the umpteenth person to say that "North Carolina" isn't surprising at all, subby.
 
2010-12-20 06:32:03 PM  
Idiots in the Carolina's have to google how to BBQ.....lol.....
oh wait Texans lead searches for Frito Chili Pie (hangs head in shame)
 
2010-12-20 06:32:33 PM  

Treygreen13:
Just a matter of opinion. I believe something is BBQ based on the method by which it is heated, not necessarily by when/what/why sauce/rub is added.


Ah, well if the method is what is important, the only proper BBQ in that case would be to dig a nice deep hole, start a hickory wood fire in the bottom, once the fire is going good, layer in green hickory branches (with leaves attached) and throw a whole gutted pig (skin-on) on top. Cover with more hickory branches and bury. Dig up in 6-8 hours, season (around here that means...BBQ SAUCE!) and enjoy. Yummmm...
 
2010-12-20 06:36:13 PM  

halfof33: I travel, and being from Chicago, don't have a bone in this fight, so:

1. Kansas City
2. Memphis
3. Carolinas
last: Texas. if you can't cook pork, ya can't BBQ.


I agree wholeheartedly with the contents of this list, though the order varies. I'd definitely put Texas on there though. I'm gonna try and take a BBQ roadtrip sometime in the near future.
 
kth
2010-12-20 06:36:18 PM  

JNowe: Carolina what, now?

Kansas City BBQ Restaurants (new window).

Dang, now I'm all hungry.


Actually, one of my favorite barbeque restaurants in KC is actually Memphis barbeque.

I have different favorites for different things: brisket and burnt ends from Bryant's, ribs from Gates and pulled pork from RJ's, which is Memphis-style, and close enough to my house that I can, on occasion, smell it from my back porch. Damn, now I want a po boy sandwich (pulled pork and cole slaw on a bun) really badly.
 
2010-12-20 06:38:35 PM  
Basing the "best" of something based on Google searches??
In that case my favorite BBQ must be "huge bras"
 
2010-12-20 06:39:17 PM  
Not surprising in the least.

/Eastern NC
 
2010-12-20 06:39:38 PM  
As TsuDohNim said, any self respecting Texan male past the age of ten doesn't need to Google barbecue. And any self respecting Texan woman past the age of ten knows that barbecue is men's work.
 
2010-12-20 06:39:56 PM  

kth: Damn, now I want a po boy sandwich (pulled pork and cole slaw on a bun) really badly.


Excuse me for derailing a BBQ thread, but I simply must not let this egregious error go unnoticed. A po' boy is not made with pork. Any animal what walked on the land is ineligible for po' boy status.

Oysters, clams, skrimps, scallops, crab- those can go on a po' boy. Not pig.
 
2010-12-20 06:40:53 PM  

runslothrun: Treygreen13: runslothrun: Di Atribe: runslothrun: Di Atribe: runslothrun: Di Atribe: Krayon: Come to Memphis and have Central's BBQ nachos, then shut the fark up about any of your Texas shiat.

(just FYI Di Atribe is a woman)

are you trying to white knight someone in a bbq thread?


No, I'm pointing out that you've called a chick "dude" twice now. If that bothers you, I'm sorry.
 
2010-12-20 06:42:32 PM  
People in Texas don't need to search for "barbecue" because there are places all over that everyone already knows about. Also, a Texan would search for "BBQ".
 
2010-12-20 06:45:49 PM  

Treygreen13: runslothrun: Treygreen13: runslothrun: Di Atribe: runslothrun: Di Atribe: runslothrun: Di Atribe: Krayon: Come to Memphis and have Central's BBQ nachos, then shut the fark up about any of your Texas shiat.

(just FYI Di Atribe is a woman)

are you trying to white knight someone in a bbq thread?

No, I'm pointing out that you've called a chick "dude" twice now. If that bothers you, I'm sorry.


i struggle to understand why the fark would matter. are you offended or bothered because i used the word 'dude' when it turned out to be a 'chick'? yeah...alrighty then.

/good luck in the crusades!
 
2010-12-20 06:48:53 PM  
Who cares about BBQ? (but I'll take S.C. pulled pork, for what it's worth.) Why is lemonparty such a popular search term in Pennsylvania?!? Why are the people of Kentucky so infatuated with 2 girls, 1 cup? Why is Michigan afraid of zombie attacks? I could waste years doing this. It's the best thing since online court records.
 
2010-12-20 06:49:30 PM  
This is completely unsurprising. Barbecue is made of pork. The cow-based stuff they eat in Texas is tasty, but it's not barbecue. Also, there's no letter 'q' in the word barbecue.

I actually kind of prefer western North Carolina barbecue, but I'll take whatever you're serving. And I prefer pulled pork to sliced. In order, I'd go for western NC, Memphis, eastern NC. Just a matter of taste.

/Live in Georgia, where the style depends on the restaurant; we don't really have one of our own.
//Too lazy to check to see if The Barbecue Song (pops) has already been posted.
 
2010-12-20 06:49:57 PM  
Not all of those people in IL typing "Italian Beef" are looking for food.

/NTTAWWT
 
2010-12-20 06:53:28 PM  

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One of the ads on the page...
 
2010-12-20 06:54:43 PM  
The only half way decent BBQ I've found in Los Angeles so far is Dr. Hogly Wogly's Tyler Texas BBQ. If anybody has any other suggestions I'd love to hear them though.

I think my favorite style is Memphis BBQ. Has anybody tried Interstate BBQ in Memphis? Their ribs looked fantastic on a Travel Channel show that focused on BBQ.

I find it interesting that nobody has mentioned St. Louis BBQ. I'm not going to defend it either.
 
2010-12-20 06:55:16 PM  

runslothrun: Treygreen13: runslothrun: Treygreen13: runslothrun: Di Atribe: runslothrun: Di Atribe: runslothrun: Di Atribe: Krayon: Come to Memphis and have Central's BBQ nachos, then shut the fark up about any of you

No, I'm pointing out that you've called a chick "dude" twice now. If that bothers you, I'm sorry.

i struggle to understand why the fark would matter. are you offended or bothered because i used the word 'dude' when it turned out to be a 'chick'? yeah...alrighty then.

/good luck in the crusades!


I just thought you used "dude" in the "guy I'm talking to" sense, rather than in the "my vocabulary hasn't improved since 1989" way. Hence why I mentioned that she was in fact female.
You see, some of us here on Fark actually get to know facts about each other, rather than turn the whole website into YouTube commentary. But please, don't let me interrupt your current streak of Holocaust jokes.
 
2010-12-20 06:56:35 PM  

Fear the Clam: Not all of those people in IL typing "Italian Beef" are looking for food.

/NTTAWWT


We have a winner!!
 
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