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(Excite)   US soldiers almost beat Portugese soldier to death for saluting bin Laden   (news.excite.com) divider line 137
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2001-10-15 10:09:25 PM
Umm... IN JEST!!
Hey, I'm all for beating the shiat out of a supporter, but why not ask him his reason first beforehand?
 
2001-10-15 10:10:12 PM
Shoulda known better.
 
2001-10-15 10:11:00 PM
What sortof an idiot choose "hero" for this link.

Hate should never be rewarded and acting on hate should be punished.
 
2001-10-15 10:11:08 PM
Go Marines.
 
2001-10-15 10:11:11 PM
I must really suggest that a new tag get put in. This absolutely no way for soldiers to act. I mean, WTF??? This is a hero? A hearty fu.ck you to whoever submitted this.
 
2001-10-15 10:11:35 PM
Okay, it's been said a few (hundred) times before, but the "Hero" tag really needs to be enforced better. If everyone in the United States acted in the same "Heroic" fashion as these men, there would be a lot of innocent people beaten to death simply because they're Arab.
 
2001-10-15 10:19:42 PM
Erm, this guy wasn't punished because he was arab, or because of anything superficial like that, he was beat because he supports Bin Laden. Same thing that we're doing to the supporters in Afghanistan.
 
2001-10-15 10:21:42 PM
Holyman887 read the article then post.
You are wrong.
 
2001-10-15 10:21:58 PM
he doesnt support bin laden!
 
2001-10-15 10:22:04 PM
Im glad he got his ass kicked.....

flame me...i give a damn...
 
2001-10-15 10:23:43 PM
Uh, Holyman, read the damn article. He wasn't a supporter, the poor SOB just had a sick sense of humor...
 
2001-10-15 10:24:16 PM
It's a sad day indeed when we let mob mentality replace rationalism and morality.
 
2001-10-15 10:24:29 PM
and bad timing.
 
2001-10-15 10:27:26 PM
anyone who beats people is a hero
 
2001-10-15 10:28:06 PM
"American and Portuguese police were called and 30 were needed to end the fight, and even then they only restored order by drawing their weapons," the report added.

I don't know, sounds like an average weekend of shore leave in the army to me. Only reason this made the news is because the news is making it's business to report such things.
If they printed every brawl that the marines, navy and army got into (sometimes with each other), that started in a bar over some gesture and required drawn weapons and 30 M.P.'s to break it up, we wouldn't have any room in the newspaper for any other news.
 
2001-10-15 10:29:44 PM
I'm 100% portuguese born to immigrant parents from the Azores and an ex-Marine.

I would have pounded the shiat out of him too.
 
2001-10-15 10:30:57 PM
Even if in jest, he was a moron who had an ass kicking coming his way.

...anyone that STUPID deserves a major ass-stomping.

It's a bit similar to spitting on the face of a corpse at a funeral in front of the family. Might expect some physical expressions of disapproval, I'd wager.

Think before acting, or get the SH*IT beaten out of you.
 
2001-10-15 10:31:54 PM
there should be an arsehole(s) tag. I agree that this was not violence based on superficial (racial / religious) hatred...

but please, keep the rage focused on the real enemy, not some jackass with a bad sense of humor.

from the article, it looks like relations with other countries' troops are already strained for some reason.
 
2001-10-15 10:33:52 PM
Perhaps not heroic,but justified somewhat.I know I would have had a problem with his joke.
 
2001-10-15 10:33:54 PM
Just a small amendment, if only stupidity itself was painful, this guy would have died in agony before he got the shiat beaten out of him.
 
2001-10-15 10:35:25 PM
I kinda got the impression that he was saluting in a mocking sort of gesture - a Fark You kinda salute.

Bad timing and judgement - granted - in a room full of soldiers. Have another drink, bud.
 
2001-10-15 10:35:26 PM
I still say he shoulda known better. You don't sulute Bin Laden as a joke in front of a bunch of pissed off US service men.
 
2001-10-15 10:36:41 PM
The boys are itching for a fight.
Save it for the Taliban, guys.
 
2001-10-15 10:40:26 PM
This link deserves "Hero" more than those strikers...
 
2001-10-15 10:42:38 PM
I've always known there was something fishy about them Portuguese.
 
2001-10-15 10:48:49 PM
What a pack of farken homo losers! U.S soldiers Heros?!?! ha ha what a crock of shiat! Theres nothing heroic about gang bashing. He cracked a stupid joke...... so what? They bashed the snot out of him......... proud to be American eh? The outlook looks worse everyday.


go to yesterdays links

"sunday october 14 2001" 2 from the top is an article titled..........

"Bush rejects offer from Taliban to hand bin Laden over to a third country" then in the forums start reading from

10-14-01 11:07:05 PM Mr Happy

Anyone have anything intelligent to say?
 
2001-10-15 10:49:02 PM
first thing i have to say is "dude, chill out"

BUT

the thing is, we train these guys to be trained killers and fiercely loyal and ridiculously patriotic to our nation...

so it's not that surprising that something like this happened.

in fact it would've been weirder if it didn't happen...

especially with tensions running so high
 
2001-10-15 10:50:36 PM
Is everybody turning into a bunch of animals. fark. Tell me were I can go live in a civilized society. I am so farking tired of people doing shiat because they felt like it.
 
2001-10-15 10:51:48 PM
Sprack

I'm portugese and I would have beat his ass as well
 
2001-10-15 10:52:27 PM
Well, you know, the poor bastard made a serious mistake. His action was tantamount to saying, "she should have just laid back and enjoyed it," after hearing that your mother was just gang raped.

He got his ass kicked. But now the whole lot of them are gonna get their dicks handed to them at mast. Very unfortunate for all concerned.

2-6
 
2001-10-15 10:54:27 PM
the troops are wanting an enemy to destroy...
they can feel the built up rage in there blood.

bad time for silly jokes...

Imagine what these ppl are gonna do once they have a teliban to play with...
 
2001-10-15 10:55:05 PM
I just know someone will say it,so I'll beat them to it:
"Hurting is hurtful and never justified!"

I think teacher owes me a cookie now.
 
2001-10-15 10:55:11 PM
Xpoint

"people doing shiat because they felt like it". It seems thats the American way now.
 
2001-10-15 10:55:47 PM
You have to understand something. These guys are facing possible confrontation in a hostile territory. They aren't sitting behind a PC 8 hours a day and then going home to watch Simpsons reruns. They could go to Afghanistan or even someplace even more dangerous should something else flare up.

I don't know about that almost beating him to death thing, but I definitely would have been more than glad to let him know that it wasn't funny.
 
2001-10-15 10:55:51 PM
Get back in the pants, Mr Happy.

If you don't I'm going to beat the hell out of you again.


And you know you deserve it.
 
2001-10-15 10:56:22 PM
Willy Pete: Right!

And anyhoo... I think that in addition to the Hero tag, there should be a "Doofus" tag.
 
2001-10-15 10:59:20 PM
Not Heroes? Not Yet!

All you hand wringers and Kumbaya peaceniks better get this through your 60's chemically damaged heads and their offsprings. This is war and its going to get alot uglier,hateful,un-loving,less peaceful that some damn bar fight. Last man standing wins. PERIOD.
 
2001-10-15 11:07:47 PM
fark the retard that saluted osama bin laden.
This diffenately deserves the hero tag. fark all you guys that oppose my few or the webmasters of fark. Its my opinion and theres, you have a right to yours too.
Its the guys like those few that oppose views that are patriotic that make me pissed.
 
2001-10-15 11:08:36 PM
I am all for the war against the Taliban here, but a lot of the rhetoric that I am hearing on FARK and elsewhere is downright scaring me. The cries of using nukes and chemical warfare against afghanistan and other countries is purely unjustifiable. The only instance I could see even considering to use something like a nuclear weapon would be if we knew that they were gonna bomb us with one if we didn't. People on Fark are calling a group of soldiers who beat of a man who made a joke (albiet a very inapropriate joke, but a joke nontheless) heroes. They are calling union workers anti-american simply becuase they are trying to negotiate a better contract. People, we are not the terrorists here, America is supposed to be a civilized country. If the people who are posting these messeges on Fark were in charge I would seriously be getting worried about the safety of the world as a whole. We need to kick the shiat out of bin laden and any who support him, but at the same time we must not forget our own freedoms and the freedoms of others around the world.
 
2001-10-15 11:09:10 PM
So mr happy, I take it your not American?
 
2001-10-15 11:09:15 PM
Perhaps Fark.com should start watching the tags they give articals, I'm going to stop checking it every day if I just end up being frustrated and I know many more agree. Let's get rid of this stupid "HERO" tag altogether.
 
daz
2001-10-15 11:10:39 PM
Mr. Happy's just another ignorant arrogant euro that thinks he knows everything and lords it over us Americans.

It's ironic he says that the American Way is "people doing shiat because they felt like it" as if relativism and liberalism started in America. LOL
 
2001-10-15 11:20:09 PM
My 2 cents.
There are always reactionary events small and large that occur on either side in times of uncertainity. This is nothing new. Unions and contract negotiations, bar bashing, name calling are somehow portrayed here as some kind of impending deline in American values, attitudes, etc. It is no big deal as it is haman nature and not some mob mentality but people venting or expressing their views. Calm down. After we deport and intern all the nid-eastern types, things will be better
 
2001-10-15 11:21:18 PM
How could I not be American - I feel as though Im drowing in your culture - your way of life. Its everywhere now isnt it? So imposing and always there. But dont get me wrong - I dont hate it I love it...... I love America - I love the American people - I love the food, buildings, shops, ideas, freedom of speech, it is the good life and one worthy of defending one I was born into, one I have grown up in, and one that my ancestors have happily lived through....... but I hate the up-themselves bomb everything might is right way of life that is being screamed and gloated about like a 14 year old who got his first blowjob.

America isnt saintly and war isnt the answer - you may say "well what the fark else are we supposed to do - if we dont bomb we live in fear?" - Well start thinking because we need change now and we need it fast!
 
2001-10-15 11:26:38 PM
well why dont you lay down some suggestions for us. what would you do?
 
2001-10-15 11:30:05 PM
Sorry Daz I dont recall saying I knew everything - and its you who obviously appears to be ignorant.

Oh and ha ha yes your joke is very funny? Not. I never said it "is" I said it "seems" - large difference between clarifying and speculating.

Oh and another thing - you wouldnt happen to have seen the proof I posted to my so called "lies" in the other forum have you? Wanker.

Go on what do you know?

"sunday october 14 2001" 2nd down from the top is an article titled..........

"Bush rejects offer from Taliban to hand bin Laden over to a third country"

and into the forum you should go.
 
2001-10-15 11:34:39 PM
What would I do? Get the world to change - but without authority and power like that of the President I'd find it rather hard to get the process done over night.
 
2001-10-15 11:36:39 PM
if this is the way the hero tag is going to be used, let's just get rid of it.
 
2001-10-15 11:40:22 PM
Thank you Mr Happy... good thoughts. If america would stop being imperialist bastards, we probably wouldn't be in this situation in the first place.

How is a peace protester un-american if he hopes for his fellow patriots not to die in a war half a world away?
 
2001-10-15 11:43:10 PM
Mr. Happy - You are like the ten o'clock news. Problems everywhere and you post them like some sort of enlightenment to others as if you had used your brain or read the Berkely Foreign Affairs Review. You complain, biatch and moan about faults and problems yet do not offer a solution. You are a cop out. Men with no answers are problems. Answers do not have to be right or wrong but at least they contribute.
 
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