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(Some Guy)   Woman complains to media after being turned away from the Energy Assistance Program--while standing in front of her flat-panel TV and Xbox   (macon.com) divider line 613
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2010-12-19 09:30:57 PM  
Goimir: sethstorm:
The better way to point it out to someone is that it'd be a loss to take the jobs that are available. One could make reasonable and some unreasonable sacrifices, and you'd still come out negative. It'd still make the same point, just doesn't give some of the people a buzzword to attack you on.

Fight buzzwords with buzzwords? It's hard for me to see exactly where someone's malfunction with the notion of what constitutes a living wage anywhere except the depressed south, and thinking that $9/hr is it. Simply stating "the math doesn't work" leaves them with far too much thinking to do and will lead them to a response of "your mom" or somesuch. Throwing hard numbers at them usually works, and then they realize that not only is $9/hr not a living wage, $12/hr doesn't go far for two people, and $16/hr is tough to raise a family on, $20/hr is when you start to see some sort of light, and $25/hr you could save up for a house, buy a car that's less than 5 years old, and put money away for retirement.

I'm not saying that a video store clerk should be making $20/hr, but that wages really need to be looked at in the US, and until that happens, there will be no jobs, because all the workers can afford to eat is dirt, and nobody's hiring dirt farmers.


You want higher wages but you biatched earlier about outsourcing. Farking economics, how does it work?
 
2010-12-19 09:32:28 PM  
Stanfan114:
How did you make the text that color


HTML Color Chart - with instructions... (new window)
 
2010-12-19 09:33:14 PM  
Slaves2Darkness: moparedtn: How's that 45+ years of the "Great Society" working for ya?

/if you pay some folks not to work, they'll take you up on it

It is working fairly well considering those who have the lowest ability to survive in a capitalist society have their basic needs met. Sure we would love to provide more for them, but some people just don't seem to understand enlightened self interest or positive externalities.

For example by providing basic food, shelter and health services to all those who need it our society is healthier, wealthier, and more stable then if we did not provide these services. This allows me and you to go to work with out worrying about being mugged, contracting deadly diseases and ignoring the begging of street folks.

But hey don't let that stop you from stomping your feet and decrying how unfair it is that you have to pay a little tax so that people who are less fortunate or have less ability then you can live a very basic existence.


Right and the infrastructure will fix itself.
 
2010-12-19 09:34:53 PM  
Slaves2Darkness: For example by providing basic food, shelter and health services to all those who need it our society is healthier, wealthier, and more stable then if we did not provide these services. This allows me and you to go to work with out worrying about being mugged, contracting deadly diseases and ignoring the begging of street folks.

Quality of life? QUALITY OF LIFE??!!

My dear boy, we live in a GATED community. We probably wont have to move away from the economic sh*thole we created for another few years!

MY quality of life is ASSURED! Harrumph.

Unless, of course I leave the gated community, or some crap. They have people who bring you things, you know.
 
2010-12-19 09:40:22 PM  
StoPPeRmobile: Slaves2Darkness: moparedtn: How's that 45+ years of the "Great Society" working for ya?

/if you pay some folks not to work, they'll take you up on it

It is working fairly well considering those who have the lowest ability to survive in a capitalist society have their basic needs met. Sure we would love to provide more for them, but some people just don't seem to understand enlightened self interest or positive externalities.

For example by providing basic food, shelter and health services to all those who need it our society is healthier, wealthier, and more stable then if we did not provide these services. This allows me and you to go to work with out worrying about being mugged, contracting deadly diseases and ignoring the begging of street folks.

But hey don't let that stop you from stomping your feet and decrying how unfair it is that you have to pay a little tax so that people who are less fortunate or have less ability then you can live a very basic existence.

Right and the infrastructure will fix itself.


Do you live in an area that has blackouts? Can't get fresh water? Are your roads impassible? Do you have no access to health care?

Cause I don't know of anywhere in the country that has a massive infrastructure failure. If your infrastructure is failing maybe you should raise local taxes to pay for it. Oh wait can't tax and spend, cause that is SOCIALISM.
 
2010-12-19 09:41:22 PM  
Reverend Monkeypants:
Also, GeneralJim, citing some wacko's youtube video. . .

Some wacko? I'll have you know that video was of members of Clinton's cabinet, Senator Barney Frank, and President Obama, unedited. .... Okay, point taken.

 
2010-12-19 09:41:43 PM  
StoPPeRmobile: Right and the infrastructure will fix itself.

Why fix it?

The people who got the most use out of it, transporting materials, finished goods and worker housing, don't need it anymore.

You want some stellar plumbing, sewers, bridges and roads?

Move to China in about twenty years. All that "We should have used plastics and non reactive materials" should be kicking in there just in time to facilitate the next economic gang bang.
 
2010-12-19 09:43:15 PM  
Goimir:
I explained that $9/hr isn't enough to live on here i.e., jobs are not paying living wages. And then the wheels came off the thread.


O, true. I guess it depends on what you decide to call "living". I'm part owner of a business so I end up taking home less than that even and all of the pure employees make more than I do. So I have to share a house with other people. I love it, personally. One of the biggest failures of our economy (imo) is the rise in standard of living is BS. A living wage does NOT include HDTV and phat rims on a tricked out Acura. So when I hear people complain about not being able to make ends meet on less than $20/hr I cringe. It's all too damn similar to the governments budgeting problems now. People don't even know how to cut things out of their budget because without an XBox/HDTV/BMW/Facebook/iPhone/etc they think life will leave them behind.

I'll give you a nice story: My buddy wanted to buy a nice building for his new business so he and his wife and 2 kids moved into a cabin in the northeast woods for 3 years to save the money. Then they bought a building with over 50% down and moved into the top floor with his business below. Not needing a car anymore they sold them and went car-less for a while until they bought a nice truck in cash. Now, 10 years later or so, they are rocking along with a stable business.

I don't think most of the citizenry could do that. It's too bad they all are so damn squishy and unmotivated. :)

/no I didn't mean that last bit... too much
 
2010-12-19 09:45:09 PM  
The cabin had no electricity, running water and was heated by woodstove and candlelight.
 
2010-12-19 09:47:01 PM  
GeneralJim: Reverend Monkeypants:
Also, GeneralJim, citing some wacko's youtube video. . .

Some wacko? I'll have you know that video was of members of Clinton's cabinet, Senator Barney Frank, and President Obama, unedited. .... Okay, point taken.


:) I wish I could pawn off our woes on a few select people or a single political party but sadly that's just not realistic.
 
2010-12-19 09:48:01 PM  
Goimir: bunner: Goimir: No prob. Meet me over in Totalfark Discussion.
*logs in*
*waves*
Your welcome thread is waiting.


IT'S A TRAP!

/too late
 
2010-12-19 09:50:32 PM  
ace in your face: Where? Bumfark PA? Because this is a thread about Macon Georgia. Also, Craigslist may not have shiat in your little butthole town, but in most cities it is teaming with jobs (Way more than the classifieds)- and not scammer jobs. I know tons of people who have gotten work on craigslist (me included) and made enough to pay their living expenses.

Actually I'm in the Poconos. I'm an hour and a half from NYC. Any labor jobs are taken up by amigos. And believe it or not, they're not dumb! They can weld, do wiring, plumbing, hvac, and all sorts of other skilled labor. My Spanish isn't good enough for a supervisory position, and they're giving them to the amigos too. The only americans that get hired are for office stuff and sales, and I don't have a degree, and believe it or not, suck at sales. Or you can work for $14/hr with no benefits just like the amigos do, but they're bachelors for the most part, living in apartments above bars, driving rusted-out pieces of crap, not trying to raise two kids and put a wife through community college.

And that's true through all of north and central jersey, and Orange, Putnam, Dutchess counties in NY.

/not bumfark PA
//Yeah, we don't stop at stop signs here, but civilization's but an hour away, any way but north.
///reads the North Jersey CL for the most part, and Hudson Valley occasionally, but so much of that is 2, 2.5 hours away, and still only paying $18/hr for 10 yrs experience
 
2010-12-19 09:53:24 PM  
I farted once on the set of Blue Lagoon.
 
2010-12-19 09:56:24 PM  
ace in your face: You want higher wages but you biatched earlier about outsourcing. Farking economics, how does it work?

I don't know, you tell me what step 2 is, seeing as the economy can't figure it out:

Step 1: Outsource jobs
Step 2: ???
Step 3: Middle Class Profit!!!

/the only way I can make that work is with lots of violence that I just don't condone.
//the bottom line is people need to need their neighbors, and they'll be as wealthy as their neighbors. Once they don't need their neighbors but only use them at their discretion, the system decays and eventually stops working.
///think about where your money ultimately ended up this weekend, and you tell me what's wrong with the economy
 
2010-12-19 09:59:55 PM  
I'm going to bed. I've destroyed this thread enough.

Hopefully some people learned a few things, or at least started thinking about things.

/will check thread in the morning
 
2010-12-19 10:01:43 PM  
Bennie Crabtree: I thought that the US had to change all of their tvs over recently because of HDTV signals. It stands to reason that everyone in the whole farking nation has new tvs.



You thought wrong, tard boy.

/thinking is not your strong suit, son
 
2010-12-19 10:04:59 PM  
Goimir: And that's true through all of north and central jersey, and Orange, Putnam, Dutchess counties in NY.

You left out Ulster, Sullivan and Green, my neck-deep of the woods. I was a bricklayer, carpenter, drywall, painter, etc guy for years. I don't think I could get those jobs right now, our spanish speaking friends have that market looked up pretty tight.

/not a conservative but ready to drive out illeagals with a cattleprod.
//had some bad experiences
 
2010-12-19 10:19:12 PM  
For some reason I immediately thought of this.

www.mopo.ca
 
2010-12-19 10:22:24 PM  
Reverend Monkeypants: Goimir:
I explained that $9/hr isn't enough to live on here i.e., jobs are not paying living wages. And then the wheels came off the thread.

O, true. I guess it depends on what you decide to call "living". I'm part owner of a business so I end up taking home less than that even and all of the pure employees make more than I do. So I have to share a house with other people. I love it, personally. One of the biggest failures of our economy (imo) is the rise in standard of living is BS. A living wage does NOT include HDTV and phat rims on a tricked out Acura. So when I hear people complain about not being able to make ends meet on less than $20/hr I cringe. It's all too damn similar to the governments budgeting problems now. People don't even know how to cut things out of their budget because without an XBox/HDTV/BMW/Facebook/iPhone/etc they think life will leave them behind.

I'll give you a nice story: My buddy wanted to buy a nice building for his new business so he and his wife and 2 kids moved into a cabin in the northeast woods for 3 years to save the money. Then they bought a building with over 50% down and moved into the top floor with his business below. Not needing a car anymore they sold them and went car-less for a while until they bought a nice truck in cash. Now, 10 years later or so, they are rocking along with a stable business.

I don't think most of the citizenry could do that. It's too bad they all are so damn squishy and unmotivated. :)

/no I didn't mean that last bit... too much


MrS and I lived on a boat on lake Union for awhile with very little but neccessities and of course, our laptops. No cars.
Last year we bought a house. Nearly every foreclosure we looked at had a direct TV dish outside.
Every person I have met that is on some type of disability, etc, have new fangled gadgetry - TV's, xboxes, etc.
What's up with that? If you are poor turn off your toys and do something about it. Not being able to sit around and play video games or watch cable all day might provide some motivation.
All of y'all that are sympathizing with this gal or people like her have never been poor or had to live around those with a similiar mindset. They piss their money away and count on the handouts, and get angry when the gravy train they were counting on stops short of their home.
 
2010-12-19 10:31:02 PM  
fredklein: Benjimin_Dover: fredklein: Goimir: What good does $9/hr do when a place to live is $750 a month plus utilities?

Um, it pays the rent.

9$/hr * 40 hours per week * 4 weeks per month= 1440 per month. That's enough to pay for $750 rent, plus utilities.

X 66% to get takehome pay after withholding = $950.40
leaves roughly $50 a week for utilities, food, and transportation costs.

Who the fark gets 33% withheld? Hell, I make more than $50,000 a year and don't get that much withheld. I seriously doubt someone earning less than $20,000 gets 1/3 taken out.


Come to NYS. We have lots of programs to pay for. Lots of programs.
 
2010-12-19 10:34:31 PM  
AbbeySomeone: They piss their money away and count on the handouts, and get angry when the gravy train they were counting on stops short of their home

You should see section 8 subsidised housing. If someone gets a job, they have to report it. Then their rent goes up. So they quit 28 days later. Land lord has to give them 30 days notice so the rent doesn't actually go up.
Repeat. Wipe hands on pants.
They all have big assed tee vees.
It's their "right" to.
 
2010-12-19 10:35:23 PM  
Goimir: Well I found two. I found one 16 years ago, and one 14 years ago. I'm married to one, and the other's my best friend.

Your mom totally doesn't count; that's illegal in most states though I understand Switzerland, is as we speak, attempting to lift the ban on incestuous marriage. I wish you well in your endeavor.
 
2010-12-19 10:35:49 PM  
bunner: StoPPeRmobile: Right and the infrastructure will fix itself.

Why fix it?

The people who got the most use out of it, transporting materials, finished goods and worker housing, don't need it anymore.

You want some stellar plumbing, sewers, bridges and roads?

Move to China in about twenty years. All that "We should have used plastics and non reactive materials" should be kicking in there just in time to facilitate the next economic gang bang.


I always wondered what the people that saw their culture start failing, experienced.
 
2010-12-19 10:37:45 PM  
So public assistance has gone from being the LAST RESORT to being the "So I'm not inconvenienced by selling my massive TV and missing Idol" option? What I really don't get is the Farker sympathy for it. Buying a 20" CRT at a garage sale is somehow an indignity now?

/ bought a TV very similar to hers. Paid 900$
// didn't buy it till I was making north of 100k
///but according to Fark I'm some sort of ogre for think that broke a$$ people should have to save their money and build an emergency fund and not spend thousands of dollars on electronics.
 
2010-12-19 10:51:49 PM  
painless42: So public assistance has gone from being the LAST RESORT to being the "So I'm not inconvenienced by selling my massive TV and missing Idol" option? What I really don't get is the Farker sympathy for it.

Don't worry, they don't actually believe it. Notice how for all the rage about injustices and keeping the poor people down, no one actually bothered to help. One person even sponsored another guy for Total Fark for participating in a circlejerk about keeping the man down. It could not have possibly been any more laughably stereotypical. The important thing is that a lot of people now feel a lot better about themselves for doing absolutely nothing.
 
2010-12-19 11:07:58 PM  
I Am The Egg Matt Drudge Smears Upon His Body: Bennie Crabtree: I thought that the US had to change all of their tvs over recently because of HDTV signals. It stands to reason that everyone in the whole farking nation has new tvs.
You thought wrong, tard boy.
/thinking is not your strong suit, son


No, digital TV signal. Remember the hoopla over the digital TV converters? And the big switchover, which had to be delayed because some people did not get enough notice, and THEIR TV WOULD GO BLANK on the appointed day? It was horrible, horrible......if you were one of the affected, you would remember.

Me and the other 18 people in the U.S. who have antenna TV will NEVAR FORGET.
 
2010-12-19 11:17:32 PM  
YouPeopleAreCrazy: Bennie Crabtree: I thought that the US had to change all of their tvs over recently because of HDTV signals. It stands to reason that everyone in the whole farking nation has new tvs.

No, adapter boxes for CRTs were cheap and plentiful. I have 2 that I got for free (Circuit City as they were closing down).


They were subsidized by the FCC or some federal agency. You could get them for "free" pretty much anywhere in the country.
 
2010-12-19 11:41:37 PM  
bunner: Big box stores
Fast food
Hair salons
Storefront churches
Beer joints
Dollar stores
Empty cathedrals
Crappy,used appliances
No credit mobile phone shops
Empty shops that nobody bothered to support anymore

Welcome to the neighborhood.

I wonder which one of that lot is hiring.

Cause the factories and repair shops that used to support stores in those neighborhoods are gone. Don't worry, though. Just bust ass, get that degree and wave it at a bunch of empty buildings nobody needs anymore and that 100k in student loan debt is gonna be paid for in a trice. Funny thing about trying to base an economy on information. You run out of things that people need information on. Your brave new world's elitist ass is hanging out, kids.


The world needs ditch diggers too!
 
2010-12-19 11:45:55 PM  
painless42:
///but according to Fark I'm some sort of ogre for think that broke a$$ people should have to save their money and build an emergency fund and not spend thousands of dollars on electronics.


Welcome to FARK....home to retards who can't figure out how to post on the daily KOS or Huffpo....and the people that like to make fun of them.
 
2010-12-19 11:53:24 PM  
StoPPeRmobile: bunner: StoPPeRmobile: Right and the infrastructure will fix itself.

Why fix it?

The people who got the most use out of it, transporting materials, finished goods and worker housing, don't need it anymore.

You want some stellar plumbing, sewers, bridges and roads?

Move to China in about twenty years. All that "We should have used plastics and non reactive materials" should be kicking in there just in time to facilitate the next economic gang bang.

I always wondered what the people that saw their culture start failing, experienced.


Avarice. Decay. Unrest. Betrayal of the people's trust. Martial law. Economic collapse. Propaganda. Lots of shouting an hand waving. Well heeled rats leaving the ship.

The usual.
 
2010-12-19 11:55:05 PM  
Eponymous: The world needs ditch diggers too!

Yeah, I saw that movie.

You hiring?

Need any ditches dug?

Clichès are a bit shopworn, don't you think?
 
2010-12-19 11:56:10 PM  
How dare someone with a TV ask for any assistance!

The nerve!!!!!
 
2010-12-19 11:58:26 PM  
Then again, you'e just one more rude coward with an ISP who likes to tell himself everybody is stupider than he is because they can't kick his teeth out for him on the internet for being a douchebag.

And spells California with a "K".

You know what the world doesn't need? Douchebags. Bye.

: )
 
2010-12-20 12:01:41 AM  
bunner: Eponymous: The world needs ditch diggers too!

Yeah, I saw that movie.

You hiring?

Need any ditches dug?

Clichès are a bit shopworn, don't you think?


You sound like more a lumber yard kind of person.
 
2010-12-20 12:05:07 AM  
bunner: Then again, you'e just one more rude coward with an ISP who likes to tell himself everybody is stupider than he is because they can't kick his teeth out for him on the internet for being a douchebag.

And spells California with a "K".

You know what the world doesn't need? Douchebags. Bye.

: )


If i lived in a shiathole like Cleavland, I'd be pissed off at the world too. BTW, if you're gonna go tranny, learn to apply your makeup with something other than a spackling knife.
 
2010-12-20 12:22:32 AM  
bunner: StoPPeRmobile: bunner: StoPPeRmobile: Right and the infrastructure will fix itself.

Why fix it?

The people who got the most use out of it, transporting materials, finished goods and worker housing, don't need it anymore.

You want some stellar plumbing, sewers, bridges and roads?

Move to China in about twenty years. All that "We should have used plastics and non reactive materials" should be kicking in there just in time to facilitate the next economic gang bang.

I always wondered what the people that saw their culture start failing, experienced.

Avarice. Decay. Unrest. Betrayal of the people's trust. Martial law. Economic collapse. Propaganda. Lots of shouting an hand waving. Well heeled rats leaving the ship.

The usual.


Don't forget yourself. :)
 
2010-12-20 12:41:18 AM  
Awww. This article reminded me of the moron on Judge Judy who paid a rent-a-center 2500 dollars for a Playstation 3. I went to look up the video and it's gone. :(

(Seriously? You can't set aside the money you were going to spend on this thing for three months and just buy it yourself? I can't believe generational poverty alone would make a person that stupid. There must be other factors.
 
2010-12-20 01:24:56 AM  
yourmomlovestetris: Awww. This article reminded me of the moron on Judge Judy who paid a rent-a-center 2500 dollars for a Playstation 3. I went to look up the video and it's gone. :(

(Seriously? You can't set aside the money you were going to spend on this thing for three months and just buy it yourself? I can't believe generational poverty alone would make a person that stupid. There must be other factors.


YTou sound like a communist. Why do you hate America? Do you need a map. I heard some don't have any map such as the iraq.
 
2010-12-20 01:38:43 AM  
Eponymous: bunner: Then again, you'e just one more rude coward with an ISP who likes to tell himself everybody is stupider than he is because they can't kick his teeth out for him on the internet for being a douchebag.

And spells California with a "K".

You know what the world doesn't need? Douchebags. Bye.
b
: )

If i lived in a shiathole like Cleavland, I'd be pissed off at the world too. BTW, if you're gonna go tranny, learn to apply your makeup with something other than a spackling knife.


images2.layoutsparks.com

Burn!
 
2010-12-20 02:21:46 AM  
We have a big TV. We also have an Xbox. And a PS2. And a Wii. And a pile of other shiat. These were gifted or bought when we were a two income household.

Then I ended up losing my job - no big cheese, can get another one - BUT a week later was diagnosed with agressive cancer.

This knocked me completely out of work. For seven months. I spent most of those months in hospital. Things got tight, as I was the main breadwinner. I'm currently on a pension - thankfully about to get off it - but we lost 60% of our earnings in one swoop.

But you know what? I spent nearly twenty friggin' years of my life working, and paying taxes and paying into a social system designed to HELP people like me. I'm not expecting a government-funded lifestyle that funds holidays overseas, but if it suddenly turned around and bit me in the farking arse to the extent I'd have to start selling my personal belongings just to survive, I'd be pretty pissed off too.

There's a difference between digging your own hole and accidentally falling into one. Learn it.
 
2010-12-20 04:44:50 AM  
I Am The Egg Matt Drudge Smears Upon His Body:


Burn!


I didn't like 5th grade when I was in 5th grade.

Thanks for summing up why.

: )
 
2010-12-20 08:02:38 AM  
Goimir: I'm going to bed. I've destroyed this thread enough.

Hopefully some people learned a few things, or at least started thinking about things.

/will check thread in the morning


You have destroyed this thread with your ignorance of economics and your capability at making up "facts" to support your own argument. Good for you. You are totally a winner. Thats what we tell all the retarded children.
 
2010-12-20 09:42:49 AM  
GoDeep: Obligatory. (pops)

OMG too funny
 
2010-12-20 10:53:41 AM  
shucherfase: She's been out of work for a year. Maybe she bought those when she had a job that she thought was secure (like a lot of people did). Up until recently she's been out of work and now she's working again.

If you bought a flat screen TV and an Xbox while employed and then lost your job, would you throw your stuff away because you are now poor and no longer deserve it?


No, I wouldn't throw it away. But, I would definitely sell it to help pay the bills before I whined about not getting a free handout from the government.
 
2010-12-20 11:38:59 AM  
Superjew: cehlen: Sell the TV and the X-Box. Use the money to pay the heating bill.

Also, they should burn their coatsfirst born for warmth.


/ahhh that's better.....
 
2010-12-20 11:49:21 AM  
I love this shiat.

Five or six years ago, my parents borrowed my Firestone card to buy tires for their Expedition. A month or two ago, they FINALLY paid them off. I don't even want to know what they ended up paying for them, but it was more than likely double the worth.

So you know what they do next? Ask to borrow the Firestone card. The tires that they JUST paid off are now old and they need new tires.

For my part-time job, I bartend at moose lodge type of place. When the place is packed, there's less than one full set of teeth in the whole joint (minus me, I gots mine, yo). Half of these people have no job, are living on assistance, but are in there day in, day out. One guy even sells hit EBT card for half price to get cash so he can buy beer. He's there every morning at 9am, and doesn't leave until 8pm. All day, every day.

It's a private club, so there is some kind of law that allows minor gambling, and a good bit of these people will come in and spend upwards of $500 just to win a jackpot of $300.

People are generally idiots. And while we may think that a lot of us on here are also idiots, just imagine if we had actual "average" people on Fark.
 
2010-12-20 11:59:29 AM  
AlaricD: And those "brand new" Escalades and/or BMWs were purchased before they fell on really hard times, and the last thing they want is a repossession on their credit history. They may have also turned off the cable TV, internet, and set their thermostats to frugal levels.

dead_dangler: Exactly. I mean, it's not like you can "sell" a used vehicle. Who would buy such a thing?

Yes, they'll sell their used vehicles for more than they owe on them. So much more, in fact, that they'll be able to buy a used vehicle with better gas mileage and higher reliability-- and even be a suitably nondescript vehicle such as they do not appear uppity for driving it.
 
2010-12-20 12:26:43 PM  
GoDeep: Obligatory. (pops)

She said she wouldn't have to WORRY about those things... meaning she'll be able to afford to pay for them. How is that not clear as day? And how could you assume she meant that those things would somehow be paid for by the government?
 
2010-12-20 12:39:10 PM  
Reverend Monkeypants: I'll give you a nice story: My buddy wanted to buy a nice building for his new business so he and his wife and 2 kids moved into a cabin in the northeast woods for 3 years to save the money. Then they bought a building with over 50% down and moved into the top floor with his business below. Not needing a car anymore they sold them and went car-less for a while until they bought a nice truck in cash. Now, 10 years later or so, they are rocking along with a stable business.

Worst part is, that after all that sacrifice to get to a point of being "comfortable", everyone will simply look at the end result and cry that he owes more in taxes because he has more than others do. If after doing without for so many years, if his business grows to a sufficient level within the next few years - and then he dies of a heart attack from working all the extra hours a day, many will cry that more than half of his wealth should go to the government because his family (who from the story also sacrificed for the growth of the business) doesn't deserve the fruits of their labor.
 
2010-12-20 12:57:55 PM  
ace in your face: TNel: So everyone wants her to sell the maybe $1,000 TV for what maybe $500 or less and sell the older 360 for what maybe $100. So when she needs that stuff again she has to pay $1500. Her net profit is something like -$2300, thats great fiscal responsibility right there, thats great Republican thinking.

That TV could have been a refurb which is a lot cheaper, she might of had it for 3-4 years now, same thing with the 360 could be an earlier model.

Don't let that get in the way of your hate of people that fall on hard times.

Lulz.

fredklein: Stanfan114: Stanfan114: fredklein: Goimir: What good does $9/hr do when a place to live is $750 a month plus utilities?

Um, it pays the rent.

9$/hr * 40 hours per week * 4 weeks per month= 1440 per month. That's enough to pay for $750 rent, plus utilities.

LOL. You know how I know you have never held down a job or had to pay for your own rent or utilities?

I'll explain.

$1440 a month after a conservative 30% is taken out in payroll taxes:
$1009 for the month
- $750 for rent
= $259

So that is $259 to pay for gas for the car, insurance, food for the kids and herself, utilities, clothing, for one month. Right.

1) Where do y'all get 1/3 taken out for taxes?
2) Car? Luxury.
3) Where's the father? (or should I say 'fathers'?)

I'm not reading anywhere that she even has kids but I could be mistaken (feel free to cite). Moreover, I don't know where the fark people are comming up with this 750 dollars for rent thing. I'm finding one bedrooms in macon in the $300s, and 2 bedrooms in the 400s (water included).


We are getting the $750 "thing" from the article "thing"

I'm betting one bedrooms in Macon go for cheap because nobody wants to live in Macon. Real estate, how does it work?
 
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